Three Kingdoms

Is Cao Cao the greatest character in fiction?

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You know what I mean

BAAAAOOOOOOOO

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NEE !

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Every fucking episode

No, Liu Bei is.

*ahem*
FUCK XUANDE AND FUCK SHU

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Post characters who won.

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>muh keikaku

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>played Dynasty Warriors as a kid
>only seen Lu Bu as a violent egomaniac
>watch Three Kingdoms
>he's a total bro that genuinely loves his woman, feels bad about backstabbing Liu Bei, and plays games with his soldiers

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Fuck off, chink.

Tiananmen, free tibet, winnie the pooh, etc., just fuck off.

>Perhaps he's wondering, why you would save a baby before throwing him onto the ground?

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This series does not have enough Cao Cao. I couldn't give less of a shit about Liu Bei's wedding, I'd rather watch Cao Cao make edicts to cultivate the land or domination of the norther tribes.

That's nothing. If you made a drinking game out of how many times the characters say "hăo" (Good) then you seriously risk irreparable liver damage.

I love all those things, mutt. Keep 'em coming.

iam currently at ep 10 but how the fuck do you remember all the fucking names.. i got cao cao, dong zhou and lu bu or whatever but with all the fucking other dudes.. there are like a million people called yuan or something like that.

yuan is the last name. chinese names are backwards.
i just started this show due to the shilling and also having started 3 kingdoms total war. So far I like Cao Cao he is really based. What to expect?

It gets easier as the show goes along, early on there's a lot of characters that fall off as the three kingdoms start entrenching themselves. The Yuans don't stay relevant for very long so you don't really need to pay much attention to them or their generals.

>What to expect
a lot of emotions

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>destroys Wu
Heh. Nothin personal.

>my lord, your wife is pregnant!
>BUKENEN.

This, is a fucking bot thread.

Welcome to nuchan.

>just started this show due to the shilling and also having started 3 kingdoms total war
same
this problem with the names gets even worse in the game.
>suc mein dung wants to have an alliance with you
who? if you would at least show me where he is on the map so i have a rough idea who this is.

also how does succession work in ancient china? from what ive seen so far the youngest son seems to be the heir all the time.

i never expect chink shit to do that but here i am

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Been playing dinasty warriors and ROTTK since I was 10 years old and watched a couple of movies and still have no idea what the fuck it's all about or if it's based on history at all.

>who? if you would at least show me where he is on the map so i have a rough idea who this is.
even worse when your bitch vassals want to go to war with someone but you can't find out where or who that person is

Cringe.

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It’s based on history but embellished.

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>fiction

>what the fuck it's all about
if you don't know this by now you're forsure retarded mentally
>based on history at all
exaggerated retelling of a true story kind of like Troy

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I hate that fucking cuck.

No, it's Zhang Fei. READ THE FUCKING BOOK

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t. Pedo

>lee bow is still alive episode
>RED HARE
>TRIDENT
>HALBERD

also chen gong is the best character

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Wtf are you even talking about? Zhang Fei is the personification of righteous fury. The scene where he beats the shit out of a noble and strips him buck naked for demeaning a peasant is pure kino.

Lu Bu is the hero China deserved.

>that little laugh he always does
hehe

Lu Bu shooting the halberd to stop the war is sinokino

>righteous fury
Fury, yes.
Righteous... sometimes.

>Gets drunk and beats his own soldiers

>gets killed by his own men
Kek

It's a very "colorful" retelling of history.

Reminder that Zhang Fei captured Xiahou Yuan's daughter, raped her, forced her into marriage so that their rapebaby could be married off to Liu Bei's retarded son.

They deserved it
IT WAsn'T HIS FAULT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

best advisor coming through

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t. Zhang Fei

I know that feel - I expected Liu Bei and Guan Yu and Zhang Fei to be these pinnacles of virtue but Zhang Fei's a drunken asshole who beats the shit out of his soldiers for no reason and Guan Yu's a heartless egomaniac and both of them go out of control and Liu Bei's kind of this milquetoast loser whose son is a completely ineffectual wimp.

Mengde monologues are GOAT

>Suma Yi! You betrayed me!
>Heeeheeheee

Liu Shan did nothing wrong.

how come nigger apologists try to excuse why africa and niggers are subhuman with 0 civilization by saying that africa was always war torn yet china had wars of a million people on each side for centuries yet in 200AD it had civilizations and society that surpassed greece and rome?

agreed. pic related (Yuan Shao's #1 guy) is also based

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YOU CUT XU YUS HEAD OFF?!

>tfw went to a chink takeout place a few months ago
>they had an old portrait surrounded by candles
>ask them who it is
>tfw it was guan yu

Africa's problem wasn't that its war torn, its issue is that it's isolated globally (or was, based on technological limitations of the past.) Surrounded by an ocean, and to the North, the Sahara is an ocean in itself. Northern Africa developed and flourished fine because it interacted with the rest of the world. Sub-Saharan Africa didn't. The Americas had the same problem, they were isolated. All of history's advanced civilizations were connected through Europe, Asia, and Northern Africa. Think the Silk Road. It's a lot easier to advance as a culture when you don't have to start from scratch, but can rather borrow and adapt the culture of your neighbours.

And yes, I realize China is a very insular nation historically, but they still had plenty of interaction with outside cultures.

I'VE BEEN MEANING TO DO HIM IN

DADUDU ;_;

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>saves what was left of Shu from pointlessly dying like dogs by following pragmatic humanism over the 'will of heaven'
Shan showed more sense and benevolence than his retarded hypocrite dad ever did.

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yuan shao and yuan shu were massive retards lol

Right now you only really need to remember Cao Cao, Dong Zhuo, and Lu Bu, the rest will come with time.

No, that would be Pang Tong

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i can already tell i am really going to like this show but damn, 90 episodes? tell me weebs is it really that worth it? does based Cao Cao get in the last laugh or is it going to be a lot more filler episodes of sniveling eunechs

>is it going to be a lot more filler episodes of sniveling eunechs
The show starts after the Eunechs actually, later in the narrative. The book is a more complete story. But yeah, may as well watch it and see for yourself. I personally think the book is a better experience, but I love the material so much that I like to experience it two different ways.

Spoiler alert

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first of all its not a "show" it is a kino.
if you are the type of person (subhuman) that is on their phone checking normiegram or normiechat or goybook while watching something you should go back to game of thrones or rick and morty.

>when you try to make Zhang Fei heroic and say Wu assassins killed him but even the most brainwashed Han loyalist can't defend his insane bullshit so you say fuck it and make a bean curd the heroic figure instead

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The most reddit character in fiction . Fuck Kongming and his wheelbarrows

Cao Pi the flyest motherfucker in the Three Kingdoms

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>kills his smart little brother out of jealousy
hated this fag

Seethe.

My favorite moment is Cao Cao throwing a tantrum when Xu Chu reports he cut off Xu You's head.
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lmao

who /gongtai/ here?
>that scene where Cao Cao has to execute him
feels bad man. unrequited broship is the worst

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There's a lot of blood-spitting in this show.

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>when you verbally btfo someone so hard they collapse spit out blood and die the next day
based kongming

It’s fantastic.

>goblet clattering

t. Bastard of four fathers

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>shu soldiers armor literally made out of fucking bamboo
no wonder why they lost

First couple of episodes aren't very good, power through them.

damn, didn't know China invented tobacco too. could one country BE anymore based?

>when you yell so loudly an enemy soldier spits blood and collapses on the spot

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i knew this was going to be redpilled and kino when after 20 episodes a woman had a speaking line
diaochan,who was a glorified prostitute
the only other women to have a speaking role are wives or mothers
based chinks.

Gongtai was fucking great and that scene was one of the best in the entire series.

it is very odd to see a show have almost no poz or liberal pandering in it whatsoever

If ROTK was made by Hollywood, Yuan Shao would be a tranny, Lu Bu a fag, Guan Yu black, and Lady Sun would be a general

I fuckin' hate sima yi, that creep
His shitty dynasty fell apart after like 20 years and doomed China to more war

Cringe

>when you get BTFO by rain

What a fucking fag. His whole calm on the surface act that you call him a creep for is what made him the winner

They were really advanced back then.

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He's still kind of a faggot for reprimanding Cao Cao for killing family, then serving Lu Bu, who omitted patricide numerous times.

The guy was dumb. His only smart act was killing his brother. He ruined the kingdom with nepotism because of his insecurity. Though restricting Sima Yi was good too

>pushed by scribes as a hero despite being a liar and thief whose every positive accomplishment is taken from someone else
Guan Yu might as well be black.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. Cao Cao made the rules and he decided his younger son's fate by showing favoritism. Wanting to live isn't a crime, Cao Pi did nothing wrong.

Apaprently.

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>Cao Cao for killing family
Man, I had forgotten about that. Imagine being Cao Cao's uncle.

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cao kong was level headed i doubt he would have his brother murdered

Someone made a compilation of everyone spitting blood in anger but I didn't save it.

>le always perfect man
I saw a scene of Kongming from the old version and he felt more like a normal human while doing the same feats

>Wanting to live isn't a crime
It was for his little brother, obviously.

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>peach garden brothers vs Lu Bu caught on camcorder
based ancient China.

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I hate that big-eared villain liu being
He was just a han boomer who used his ancestry to gain power

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>killing your own little brother because he can recite poetry and war strategies better than you
cao pi just came across as autistic as fuck throughout the entire show

A question about Cao Cao's sons, what the fuck happened to Cao Zhao, the warrior son? He like disappeared after he got scared from attempting a coup. Is he the same guy as Cao Zhen who Sima Yi ended?

the symbolism of kongming being perfect is what you are missing
liu bei wanted to restore the han in accordance with the will of heaven.
kongming(sleeping dragon) supporting liu bei is meant to show that liu bei wanted to restore the han so badly heaven itself was aiding him
in china a dragon is seen as a symbol of divinity so it can be seen as a divine perfect being supporting liu bei in restoration of the han which is the will of heaven

The only difference between Cao Cao and Liu Bei, besides level of competence, was that Cao Cao was honest about his intentions and aspirations, while Liu Bei was not.

Both were ruthless tyrants who would do what was necessary to see themselves in power.

>when you abandon your life and family on a whim to go aid and serve a fugitive because he did a sweet monologue in jail
>help said fugitive murder his uncle and entire household due to a misunderstanding
>"what have I done"
oops!

>cao kong was level headed i doubt he would have his brother murdered
Cao Pi wasn't scared of Cao Kong, he was scared of his dad killing him to ensure Cao Pi doesn't become a neusance for Cao Kong in the future. Cao Pi was the first born, meaning it would have been easy for people looking to install a Cao Pi as a puppet to rally people towards him as the legitimate successor. Cao Cao decided to forgive Cao Pi because deep down he knew that he would have made the same choice if he were in Cao Pi's situtation. In classic Cao Cao fashion he decided to sweep everything under the rug rather than blame himself for pushing one of his sons to kill his brother.

He got sick and died

Cao Cao is amazing.

>unrequited broship is the worst
Did Cao Cao legitimately care for Guan Yu, or was he just lamenting that he couldn't make him his pawn?

So even with a divine being with them they still lost

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>The greatest traitor has always resembled an honest man, and the greatest falsehood comes across as truth. Righteousness and evil cannot be discerned by their appearances.
It's scary how aptly this famous Mengde quote applies to Xuande

Hard to say. It's understandable why it was so hard to see him leave, because not only did it mean he lost the nation's greatest warrior, but his archrival gained the nation's greatest warrior.

Cao Cao seemed to genuinely treasure men of talent. See his recruitment of Zhang Liao. He just wanted the best men. He said it would have been better to gain Guan Yu than 100 000 regular men.

Didn't Cao Cao let him go when it was clear he was loyal to Liu Bei? Gave an order to his troops to let him pass and not get in his way (although some still did).

DADODO

>Guan Yu
>The greatest warrior

implying. Zhao Yun was styling on niggers with a regular horse, he didn't need Red Hare. Liu Bei was the best judge of Guan Yu's abilities, and yet he suggested to Kongming to have Zhao Yun kill Guan Yu and Zhang Fei if they got too unruly. Liu Bei would not have made that suggestion if he didn't feel confident Zhao Yun could kill Guan Yu.

I just want to say that I accepted that I one will die after seeing Cao Cao at the end of his days being surrounded by a new generation and witnessing the people he grew up with die one after the other. You just accept that your time is over.

I also believe Zilong was the GOAT, but the Chinese seem to place Guan Yu on that pedestal.

>all that shits yet he gave his retarded bros big positions and let Zilong rotten in a corner
What did Liu Bei mean by this?

Nepotism is a hell of a drug

>What did Liu Bei mean by this?
MUH PEACH ORCHARD

My memory is fuzzy to catch me up on feats. For Zilong I only remember Changban (which is very impressive of course.)

Guan Yu killed Hua Xiong, Yan Liang, and Wen Chou all in single combat (all considered some of the nation's finest warriors.) He crossed 5 passes and killed 6 generals. There was the bit about the guy operating on his arm, cutting down the bone, and Guan Yu didn't even flinch.

Idk my memory is fuzzy obviously but I just remember Lord Guan being very impressive

None of them were impressive.
Guan Yu killed Yan Liang and Wen who were average but Hua Xiong was killed Sun Jians army.
Zhao Yun was a good general but overhyped like Lu Bu.
Zhang Fei contributed more than those two but he was a scumbag.

>but Hua Xiong was killed Sun Jians army.
I mean, there's no point bringing up historicity. We're discussing the events as presented in the story.

>China used to be the pioneer of philosophy, economy, and warfare in ancient times
>Now it's just a soulless husk of their former self
What the fuck happened?

>kills family and staff of guy who gave him shelter when he was on the run because they were going to kill pigs to celebrate
>runs away and meets the guy on the road
>nothin personells him because he's already invested
based retard

wh*toids and then communism