Lies USA did it!

>lies USA did it!

Why are they like this?

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Russians are going full Cold War Soviet.

You never know, they may have.

Why are they still in Cold War mode? Cold War is over....move on, ffs.

The US elite currently blames anything and everything they dislike on Russian secret agents. It's just the flip side of the same coin

Well considering how "creative" western productions have gotten with historical shows, I honestly see nothing wrong with the Russian "CIA did it" Chernobyl show as long as they preface it with "this is a drama, not a documentary"

>Russia will make a series claiming the CIA was behind the Chernobyl disaster
>America will never make a series exposing the KGB for seeding communism into our youth during the civil rights era.

And to think this could have been an opportunity for competitive historical shit-flinging kino

heh this
American media screech about muh rushans every single day, but if Russia mentions CIA they get blasted with 'ugh fuckin rushan paranoia i bet drumpf coninved his handler pootin to do this'

would unironically watch this, seems hilarious

>tfw still no kino about Mao and his rise to power
And I am talking about the historically accurate version here. With all the purges, starvations and tortures.

Master trolls

>he thinks its over
>he thinks the world peace is anything more than a forced meme repeated for virtue signaling
WW3 has been going on for years now you just haven't noticed, because the means of waging a war have changed

Not really. Sure election interference is one thing, but a nuclear reactor exploding because of poor design and incompetence? We would own up to it. Three Mile Island was a uniquely American meltdown, no one is blaming the KGB for it even at the height of the Cold War. I sincerely hope the OP post is a joke, because the levels of delusion are something else entirely if its true.

This
Nukes make open war unwinnable so the great powers fight in the shadows instead

Most Hollywood shit revises history to be anti-American though.

any paшa бpoc here? is the kgb being behind chernobyl thing an actual conspiracy theory there?

Fuck Russia and fuck Trump and fuck Putin.

what do you mean

>America will never make a series exposing the KGB for seeding communism into our youth during the civil rights era.
That's because they succeded

Wow, here come the replies

Same reason the US is like it is - Cold War propaganda reached such a ridiculous critical mass it brainwashed an entire generation and they can't fucking let it go. And they brainwash their children, who brainwash THEIR children.

It will likely take 6-7 generations before we're cleansed of this bullshit.

As always, its the boomers fault

when the fuck are these boomer scum finally going to go extinct?

Theyre all going to live to be 105 and crash the fucking system into the ground along the way

just last year the US was blaming Russia for some energy plant shutting down and warning the world that if their nuclear power plants blew up it would be thanks to Russian hackers

Just about every commie I knew grew out of it when they started working and realized the dumb fuck who does nothing still gets paid what they do.

The ones that didn't were that very same lazy fuck who did nothing.

Based

kek no way
which plant?

based and redpilled. Russia taking no shit.

That's just the retard boomers in charge of russian mass media. No one asked for this, no one believes this, no one is going to watch this load of horseshit. Don't judge us by this shit pls

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lmgtfy.com/?q=Russian hackers energy plant shutting down

nytimes.com/2018/07/27/us/politics/russian-hackers-electric-grid-elections-.html

nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/politics/russia-cyberattacks.html

poгoнoceц

Stop apologizing to degenerate amerisharts tovarish

How do we stop him

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why do I get the strong feeling that thats russian for "cuckold"

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Can't wait for this, once it starts airing there's going to be a whole new wave of CIA memes

Nothing you linked to backs up what you said.

>cold war turns into kino war
best timeline

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pure ((((((((coincidence))))))))) stop asking

its literally this simple

Dumb answer for a dumb worldview

Youre talking about targeted hacking of the power grid. Russia fucks around with hacking shit nonstop so this isnt really that hard to believe. Id bet money the US is doing the exact same thing to them, just not getting caught. This is a far cry from causing a nuclear reactor to explode. Like I said, blaming the CIA for Chernobyl is delusion. What youre saying is just a form of modern warfare.

>Dr, Pavel, I'm SABOTEUR

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get

>America will never relitigate muh culture war

The culture war was lost 2 decades ago.

It wasn't about the power grid

alternate history shows and movies are common. also it could’ve been true never know.

based gif

>This is a far cry from causing a nuclear reactor to explode.
They literally did it to Iran and killed a shitload of people in the facility thanks to the centrifuges filled with enriched uranium going crazy.

Valery Khodemchuk was the CIA undercover agent who caused the explosion.

The core in fact could not explode and needed outside help.

He escaped the scene, this is why he was not found.

Change my mind.

how does it not?
here you have government officials cited as saying the hackers can sabotage the plants, i.e make them explode
nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/politics/russia-cyberattacks.html
here is the DHS saying the blackouts happened after Russia 'reached the control rooms'
wsj.com/articles/russian-hackers-reach-u-s-utility-control-rooms-homeland-security-officials-say-1532388110

ok retard, keep deluding yourself

The slavs, especially Russians, share a lot of their mentality with the niggers.

just the jews playing both sides, they want us to hate eachother

Youre mixing up posts. The one I replied to was in regard to an user bringing up the targeted hacking of the US power grid by Russia. He mentioned this because he thinks it rebuts the claim I
made that if a reactor blew up in the US, we would own up to our failure, not blame the KGB like retards unless we had some real compelling reason to. The miniseries blaming the CIA for Chernobyl is just more sad Russian state sponsored bullshit (as there is no other kind of media in Russia) and the people will be forced to consume it because they have no choice. Notice the string of posts related to this conversation and tell me if you notice anything.

As far as the conspiracy about the KGB blowing it up to cover up that failed giant antenna project thing, thats another story.

based and gametheorypilled

There are many things I'm proud of and won't apologize for, but the absolutely retarded mass media is not one of them.

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Imagine.

>Jews make U.S. interpretation make the Russians look like a bunch of idiots.
>Jews make the Rus interpretation make the Americans look like spying warmongers.
>CIA and KGB secretly gather information
>Find out that Chernobyl was actually caused by Mossad.

Imagine if that happened.

It killed a shitload of people? Thats the first ive heard of that. Pretty based, though, if true.

You claimed they hacked and shut down a plant. All anything you posted says they tried to get in and it was a potential security risk.

>hurr durr CIA did it
>most merciful and peaceful and kind Soviets knew it but turned the other cheek and didn't nuke America to hell for revenge
Sounds legit.

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Slavic arrogance. You get a lot of cunty attitude from Slavic whores in German red light districts. The men are actually very friendly and cool, but they cannot accept responsibility for their own failures, something they have in common with Arabs. It's always the CIA. Russians are the absolute worst among them. Remember the Orange Revolution? They think every vote for Yuschenko was paid for with a Lexus courtesy of the CIA.

the kgb doesn't exist anymore

They even tried to cover it up to save the US the hassle of international backlash. We don't deserve their friendship, desu.

story on this?

Russians are delusional and insecure. They know their country is shit and will always be inferior to the US, culturally, scientifically, economically, so they have no choice but to cry “w-well we could just nuke the whole world then!” Its just pathetic. Its like that lonely ugly virgin who shoots up his school because he got rejected. Pathetic country, pathetic people. Doomed to irrelevancy for the right reasons and guaranteed infamy and attention for the wrong ones.

Now reply to me you fucking faggots.

His real name was Bill Wilson, not Valery Khodemchuk.

Because the show blamed the KGB for it

I ask myself the same thing whenever someone claims the moonlanding was fake, furthermore this makes me wonder what conspiracy theories in Russia looks like. Do they think Gorbachev was a western spy?

Delusional.

Report to the infirmary.

But Gorby was a western plant, thats not even a conspiracy its just fact

No it didn't

>America will never make a series exposing the KGB for seeding communism into our youth during the civil rights era.
Well yeah because it needed to happen

>Gorby was a western plant
westernplant.com/

>blames CIA
You're a big reactor.

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>Historical shit-flinging kino cold war
>both sides just unleash what they know about the other side's secret intel, in the form of films and mini-series

I want this timeline.

In Soviet Russia, CIA nukes you!
Anything else is decadent western lies!
Rigging your election was just payback for Chernobyl, comrade.
And we DID rig you election. Do not question it. The Democrats are not.
In Soviet Russia, lies are truths.

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I'm pretty sure that Mossad had more pressuing issues at hand then fucking up a nuclear power plant, like the South Lebanon conflict.

What do they even have to gain by sabotaging the plant?

>particle physhicsh ish a ladder

Move onto what? Those broke fucks have nothing to move onto to. They're like that loser ex that can't stop talking shit about you even after you're married and have a family.

I guess it's difficult to get funded in Russia these days unless you make a movie that makes Russians look good or makes Americans look bad. Consider, for example the, Pristina airport incident during the Kosovo war.
Here's the Russian take on it:
Pristinyoutube.com/watch?v=Mc01-SZKkF0
And here's what actually happened:
youtube.com/watch?v=tdN5fIZA1lw

...

you people must be joking. did you forget your media was whining about muh russia for two years straight?

>sabotage a plant
>make the russians think it was CIA
>Cold war intensifies
>america takes more interest in israel, as it's a "ally" in the middle east and close to russia
>safer distance than england
>causes israel to get funded

Except the KGB sabotaged Mary Sue’s investigation.

>>America will never make a series exposing the KGB for seeding communism into our youth during the civil rights era.
While Im no advocate of stalinism, or any form of authoritarian socialism, lets be real here. Life in the US/Europe before WW1 sucked. It was an unjust world for the peasants/lower classes. They had no voice and no political power/agency.

The KGB didnt have to instill ideas of a more (hypothetical) politically "fair" worldview (ie Communism), it happened on its own. Its the same thing today in the West. Its not Russian trolls and fake news, its actual mass unhappiness and mass anger, due to various reasons (social stagnation, lack of opportunities, rich men drowning in prime pussy, while the average men get scraps, women spending their youth whoring around and the realizing that they have been lied to their whole lives and that "you go girl", doesnt change that they cant snag a Mr. Perfect) and what this does it create the need for an emotional scapegoat. The right blames a divergence from "the good ol days" (and the far right blaming, jews, blacks and immigration), while the left blames the patriarchy, men, white men.

retarded boomers

Russia did not think it was the CIA at the time, they might do it now but not then.
>Cold war intensifies
In 1986? And how would the cold war intensifies?
>america takes more interest in israel,
Except by 1986 Israel was already very close to Israel.

you see, speaking from a psychological standpoint, for putin to have gone all the way through bothering with it and even sponsoring a copycat show based on true events but with the story told from a different point of view, it means there's probably more to it than the usa has led us to believe. the antirussia propaganda must've really gotten to him this time since it was targeted towards a tragic event for the ussr which i suppose even today takes its toll, unlike most other fictious hollywood productions (see house of cards) with an antirussia agenda that he was bothered about but shrugged it off.

and to be honest, would you really be surprised if the cia was behind it? that'd been nothing compared to what they've already done:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CIA_controversies

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Central_Intelligence_Agency_operations

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Yea ok mate because the cia wasn’t sabotaging shit all over, right

Oh that's right! I forgot. Any minute now we're all fucked. Apologies, user.

>while the left blames the patriarchy, men, white men.
no. fuck no.
you americans have a hilariously distorted view of the "left", you fucking burgers don't have anything near socialist, NOTHING, all you have are liberals which are capitalists with interracial sex mixed in. god I wish we could have a internet free of your kind, propaganda and lies are all you spew out of your mouth

That and everything else.

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huh?

>would you really be surprised if the cia was behind it?

So the CIA convinced the plant managers to run dangerous experiments and also built-in a critical flaw in the SCRAM system?

well what does the real left want
and what does the real left think about
>patriarchy
>men
>white men

>tl;dr even the cia has its limits guise

oh you poor summer child you

Based as fuck.

lol buttblasted ruskies

Im not American, but I live in the USA briefly and its as I describe it.

if you can blame shitty ME countries on Bush forever (or some 50s coup) or black crimes or slavery or an election on facebook ads then yeah why not

Do you have the one where he butterflies and touches his anus and there are two guys with huge bulges on either side of him? It was popular awhile before Ricardo became a meme.

you do realize intelligence agencies (not just the cia btw) have something called "double agents" and "sleeping agents" right?

Remember that history is uncertain. You cannot know the truth, all the different versions give leave to ignore the lessons and principals to be gained their version of history. The important part is that it could be a lie, it's probably a lie. Let's try it again.

>three mile island
We did own up to our own failure.

Do you know 99% of Russian zoomers and millenials don't give a single fuck about cold war and the past? Pretty sure it's same with Americans.

>many who try to liquidate it fail and never get to try again... the roentgens break them

>implying america doesn't undermine russia through media and other means

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I noticed that you cropped out the source from this post OP, and failed to provide a link to the article. Oh well I'm sure this is an honest representation of what's happening.

Also Chernobyl didn't happen in Russia lel.

So the people who designed RBMK were double agents? Are you serious?

>WAAAAAAH WE DON'T GET MAJORITY CREDIT FOR WW2 ANYMORE A BLOO BLOO BLOO

Hows the weather in Nizhny Novgorod today? I understand its pretty nice this time of year.

Maybe Putin isnt doing it because theres more to the story... but because he wants to push a narrative that strengthens the perception of his country?

>same with Americans
Not rly, actually. Many of them believe that Ivan is gonna rape their mothers one day.

>>patriarchy
it's bad if there are places where it happens, efforts should be made to ensure that both sexes have equal access to power, education or whatever and that's it
>>men
good? they're equal to women in rights
>>white men
good? equal to any other men in rights

this will be kino, i bet they wont have forced female characters

>patriarchy
capitalist neolib distractions, deal and discuss everything and anything EXCEPT muh perfectly fair and balanced free market
>men
...nothing? Sex and gender are irrelevant, social class is the true driver of inequality
>white men
see above

The Russians literally could not have even fought back without the USA's help. They were getting their shit pushed in until America started pouring in military equipment for their armed forces, then the tide turned. Without America, USSR would have been totally conquered. Cope slavoid.
And in retrospect I don't know what would've been worse or if the Americans made the right choice helping you vodkaniggers.

>this is what puppets brainwashed by the ZOG war kikes actually believe
or maybe just a wehraboo

>until America started pouring in military equipment
No such thing happened. They industrialized quickly with soviet factories because it was either that or complete annihilation.

Try to keep up.

Tell it to burgers, and it's not just propaganda. But actual action of US in regards to Russia, while not excusing their action, but still pushed it to such an aggressive behavior.

>They were getting their shit pushed in until America started pouring in military equipment for their armed forces, then the tide turned
The tide turned at Moscow, when the first major counteroffensive started. Then it turned again at Stalingrad, when entire nazi army was annihilated. Both before the bulk of lend lease arrive. Which doesn't account for the fact that Russia received only 1/3 of what Britain received, yet you don't see Brits pulling nowhere near the feats Russians did.

You think it's over, but they're still dominating the presidency well into the 3rd decade, twice as long as a generation normally would.

i don't know i'm just saying... let's wait for putin's version of the story and then we'll know how cia did it

There's still literal war ongoing in Europe between western and Eastern proxies. Then there's the siege of Venezuela. Then there's Iran. Then there's Syria. Then there's trade-war with even more powerful commies. Then there's the rising number of western socialists that must be somehow dealt with.

Shit's not going well for burgers.

???

You have no mind to change.

How much do you get paid by Vlad?

Alternatively, what's your allowance and what do you spend it on when not surfing in mom's basement?

You goddamn brainlets, this is the same channel that produced a movie about a genetic virus that turns people into nazis.

>yet you don't see Brits pulling nowhere near the feats Russians did
When you reduce the cities of Germany to rubble and decades later pimply faced little commie buttfuckers say you made next to no contribution.

>implying that 50 years of hindsight didn't lead to the correct conclusion
Sorry, Ivan. You got the sympathy vote in '45, but it just didn't hold up on further reflection.

>Shit's not going well for burgers.
the eternal gringo never gives up, they'd rather set the world on fire than admit defeat

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The show only has a $500,000 budget too.

The show described how they act when things go wrong this is them doing the same exact thing.

>Yea Forums circa 100BC
>"Rome's fucking done. Fucking degenerate mutts. Look at their political system, it's a fucking joke. They'll collapse any day now."

>Killing German civilians from skies in conjunction with Americans
>When Kostya and Gerya are raping the entire Heeresgruppe Mitte
lmao

If I press the AZ5 will you explode?

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>bombing campaign of germany starts in 1940
>soviet advance into germany in 1945
>this retard thinks they're happening at the same time
Haha. Is this what they teach you at commie school?

>the soviets have a proven track record of lying to appear competent
>the cia have a proven track record of destabilizing the world
Either explanation is feasible. I choose to believe whichever pisses off more people at the given moment.

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The American media isn't the government... well except when a Democrat is in office.

China would never allow it. You wouldn't be able to use Chinese actors of film in China

fuck HBO AIDSnobyl. this will be the kino we deserve Yea Forums

you’re so retarded. NYTimes just to done blaming opposition to 5G on Russian agents. stupid fucking summerfaggot

Once again, thats a form of indirect interference related directly to false information fed through the internet, not a reactor exploding. Sorry your faggot slav brain cant comprehend this simple concept.

seems like that faggy director was right, Russia is obsessed with not being embarrassed

this. every other response is bluepilled

fucking retard i was just refuting your claim that American media isn’t constantly blaming fucking everything on Russians. if your halfway functioning double digit IQ brain had the slightest bit of reading comprehension you’d grasp that

How qt, this goblin is trying to suggest bombing of Germany mattered before 1944. You can make a case for 1943, when there were some minor effects, but that's just like month or two before Kursk happened and nazis lost all the hope.

>Which doesn't account for the fact that Russia received only 1/3 of what Britain received, yet you don't see Brits pulling nowhere near the feats Russians did.
Well Russians technically started the war with their commie bullshit taking over Eastern Europe and even attempting a coup on Germany in the early 30's. I think most objective thinkers in the West at the time realized that Russia was mostly responsible for the entire war, even though the propaganda wouldn't allow blame to be publicly placed on anybody but Hitler. The West knew Stalin was a shit.

So got any examples?

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t. the board full of people who blame every bad thing that happens in the US on Israel

>even attempting a coup on Germany in the early 30's
You are thinking 1920s, my historically ignorant American.

>any post with "russia" in it
>500+ replies

every time

i thought russia and us are best buds now that trump is president?

I am thinking of 1918-1933, you fucking dumb eurokike

This board is a warzone for state-sponsored trolls.

>1918-1933
>early 30's
Keep going halfnigger

if I was russian I would be flattered that the US still goes into full lockdown at the mere mention of my name considering china is public enemy number 1.

It wouldn’t surprise me if we actually were responsible for it.

What you have to understand though is that Russians deserve all the suffering we can possible cause them.

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You shit for brains mouth breathing fetal alcohol syndrome addled cunt, my post wasnt about whether or not the American media blames Russia for shit -rightfully or wrongfully so - it was about the fact that Russia blaming the CIA for Chernobyl is pure fucking delusion. The only one with no reading comprehension here is you. Go back to your worthless moon runes until you actually understand English enough to post you god damned inferior tundra dwelling subhuman scum. Bunch of ugly ass women in shithole Russia too. They all look like cheap prostitutes and age like milk. Eat shit you inferior jizz stain.

The same reason Americans blame Russians for a reality TV star becoming president.

hell yeah

exactly. The correct answer is russian bots on Yea Forums.

pleased to meet you mr bond

>there's probably more to it than the usa has led us to believe

help, usa knows more about our closed cities than we do.
you are very interesting from a psychological standpoint

Send Bane after him

>kino breading kino
I can't wait desu, I hope dyatlov is the hero

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ironically, the cia did know about karachay but didnt say anything because they did feared public backlash on their own nuclear research. soviets learned about building secret nuclear cities from the US.

the eternal burger cries as he strikes you

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>make a point
>retards completely miss it and go on a non-sequitur tangent because they have the reading comprehension of a defect
I understand your pain, user. Shit for brains posters are also almost always haughty and angry as fuck

> takeover of Ukraine
> attacks on their allies like Syria and such
> sanctions for fighting back
why are they like this?

Based and Ruspilled

it was lost during LBJ's presidency. and arguably doomed since the latter part of Ike's tenure.

What's the target demographic in Russia for that movie?

Butthurt Serbians.

How do we know the U.S. didn't?
Imagine if Israels tampering with Iran's nuclear production facilities lead to a radiation leak or a dirty bomb?
Would they ever admit it?

What exactly did he have to do with the Chernobyl disaster?

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>BUT WHAT IF

kys shill

They overloaded the centrifuges motors and they spun extra fast.
Israel was involved in this one with the US's help.

Gamergate was a marxist movement.

What the fuck am I shilling, on Yea Forums of all places?

I bet you'd want to, seething femcel

>they spun extra fast.
They spun so fast they crashed into other centrifuges, hundreds got destroyed that way and whole areas in Natanz got contaminated.
The Iranians just replaced the centrifuges and the people and kept on going as normal as a big fuck you to the americans and the kikes, the kikes got so butthurt they started trying to kill their nuclear scientists with car bombs.

bullshit lol

It’s never over, we’re literally in a Cold War with them right now.

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This is the essence of being an American, we are too stubborn. And we will not be bested at anything we give a shit about

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yeah you're basically niggers

Are you stupid?

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>2019
>still hasn't heard of Stuxnet

The absolute state of your brains.

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The Cold War never ended.

>Soviet Union falls
>Yeltsin becomes a drunken pseudo-puppet for the US
>US/NATO knows that Russia will always remain an adversary, and now that Russia is weakened, they violate the pact that George H.W. Bush made with Russia. They began moving in on former Soviet states for NATO membership and placement of missile shields
>In 1999, Hungary, Czech Republic and Poland joins NATO
>Political elite in Moscow sees what's going on, and forces Yeltsin out. Enter Putin
>Putin takes a tougher stance, but continues friendliness with US. Particularly George W. Bush
>2004: Slovenia, Slovakia, Romania, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria joins NATO
>2008 - Russo-Georgian war happens
>NATO sees its opportunity to win Georgia over fully. Its strategic position to the south and with access to the Black Sea means they need to rely less on Turkey
>Russia manages to block them from joining NATO
>This is when the snowball starts to get rolling really fast
>2009: Albania and Montenegro joins NATO
>NATO and US begins talking about placement of nuclear missile shields in these former Soviet states, which would tip the balance of power
>The final frontier to have an entire NATO wall towards Russia: Ukraine and Belarus
>2014: Ukraine civil war, facilitated by NATO/US to ensure Ukrainian NATO membership. Since Ukraine is the last line of defense, Russia intervenes militarily. It's similar to how the US would respond if Russia staged a coup in Mexico or Canada
>Enter Trump, who wants to calm down the decades-old plan of surrounding Russia with a nuclear shield
>US government and media goes into overdrive with anti-Russia propaganda to ensure Trumps friendly views on Russia does not manifest itself in the population

And here we are today. At the end of the day it all boils down to the nuclear balance of power. The US wants to tip the scale in their favor, while the Russians are trying to keep up.

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NO MORE BROTHER WARS