What went wrong with the Friday the 13th series?
What went wrong with the Friday the 13th series?
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they became greedy after the first one and needed a new villain that didn't make any sense.
I felt like the inclusion of Jason as the killer worked for a time, he was very menacing, it got stupid when he came back to life and became terminator. It became impossible to take serious with part 6.
I hate Part 6 so fucking much, and think about how many "fans" these days consider it the best one or in the top 3. If you like Part 6 you don't know shit about F13
They kept killing off all the characters. It just got too confusing for me. I stopped after the 3D one. That one was the most confusing of all.
It was always a retarded slasher. Its not like 6 soils some masterful piece of cinema or anything.
The earlier films worked because they took themselves seriously, and yet were still goofy. Self awareness ruins it. It's not about "soiling masterful cinema" or whatever, it's about the writer/director having no clue how to make a proper Friday the 13th movie and even admitted to not even liking the series.
I didn't realize it until recently when I watched them all in a row, but even for cheesy slasher flicks 6 lowers the bar by a large margin. All the tension and suspense is gone, Jason is just marching through the woods like a robot decapitating 3 people in one swipe.
you see Jason in part 1 as a water-zombie child and in part 2 he is suddenly a deformed lumberjack with a bag over his head.
Should have wrapped it up after part IV. Yes there was some good stuff after that but you get stuck with between not making the same movie over and over again and making something different and too far removed from 'what fans expect'.
part II is my favourite entry.
Admit it, it's your favorite because of the short-haired chick with the nice ass
The main reason I like part 2 is because of the scene at the bar where the chick empathises with Jason. The girl you mentioned has a great ass but for me my fridayfu is Debbie from part 3
Hey I'm not gonna defend the obvious plot holes surrounding Jason, but at least he was a serviceable killer and was even a bit spooky. He was strong and grotesque but also vulnerable enough that you had hope that you could survive, but the new Jason is like the grim reaper, just makes it seem like you might as well shrug and accept death. I think him being so OP and robotic actually makes him less scary.
Shelly is literally /ourguy/
This is one of the few cases where I think S&E were right, they hated these movies
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Siskel and Ebert were pleb faggots, Leonard Maltin too. Ebert, I mean we're talking about a guy so pathetic that any movie were a woman was tortured or exploited it would trigger him
That's a problem with all the biggest slasher franchises, the murderer doesn't have any real vulnerabilities so the films lack any tension. You know everyone's just gonna die at the end. The fact that "Dream Warriors" is the most well-received Nightmare on Elm Street movie is further proof of this, as it's the one where the would-be victims actually fight back. God damn would I like to screenwrite a slasher movie, God knows I've seen enough of them to know exactly what NOT to do.
nothing the first one is mid tier compared to the rest of the series
They made Jason into something supernatural when he should've always been a deformed kid who somehow survived drowning then went on to be a survivalist living off the land, only moments too late to save his mommy.
Best FT13TH kinos:
>2009 remake
>part 2
>original with momma
Absolutely nothing
They reinvented the thing a couple of times and they created campy cult classics
More like people got bored of slashers
He doesn't really take damage.
wasn't that a hallucination/dream/memory?
Nothing screams tryhard pleb like shitting on the first movie, yeah you're so unique for preferring the sequels.
The original movie is easily the most interesting, atmospheric and and spooky film in the series. It's filmed in a docudrama style like Texas Chainsaw Massacre which makes it feel realistic and creepy. But no, it doesn't have Terminator Jason for pleb faggots like you.
no kike is anyone's guy
le epic wackyness
They never made the 13th one. Someone needs to rectify this. Right now the franchise is like Jason in his grave waiting for a lightning strike.
did slashers start getting made because the 70s and 80s were the golden age of serial killers?
Yeah I was just looking at the flashback sequence in 3 when the girl encountered Jason in the woods, and hes just this clumsy retard who can barely get a hold of her, but still you know the odds aren't in her favor. That's that perfect balance of being a threat but not hopelessly fatal to whoever crosses paths with the killer.
She was pulled in the water by Jason. Then later she goes to the authorities and they don't find him in the water after searching the lake. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, though.
Probably more so because horror movies are so cheap to produce and can generate a decent profit, and if you're lucky you could hit a home run and create a Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Halloween and make 10x what you invested.
Hold my beer
fun fact, at the beginning of part 3, when there's a tv on and a newscaster is speaking they say something about the recent massacre and that there may be cannibalism and sexual mutilation of the corpses. use headphones and turn your volume up.
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Jason in part 3 and the remake shows some inclination to want to attempt to rape or keep prisoner a hostagefu.
Delete this, Shelly is based. You better hope we never meet in real life or I will beat the shit outta you
>It's filmed in a docudrama style
wow you obviously don't realize it's shot more like halloween and black christmas with the pov shots and the killing of teenagers
also one of the coolest kills in the movie is off screen pretty lame
>tfw will never, ever get a kino where Michael and Jason bully Freddy and Leatherface and give them wedgies
They came from thrillers and giallo films in the 60s, Mario Bava basically invented slashers. Go watch Blood and Black Lace and thank me later
lmao kikelover
>wow you obviously don't realize
Shut up faggot. Also if you knew anything you'd know that the POV stuff came from A Bay of Blood in 1971.
>Jason in part 3 and the remake shows some inclination to want to attempt to rape or keep prisoner a hostagefu.
On the imdb trivia page for the movie it said that the producers were thinking of adding a rape angle to the mix, but felt it was too dark or uncharacteristic of Jason. Makes sense when you consider that Jason would probably be horny as fuck, why not rape a bitch before killing her.
sean cunningham literally said they saw halloween and wanted to rip it off stop being a retard
of course but I still wonder how much slashers influenced serial killers or vice versa.
with his background I imagine even if he was horny he wouldn't necessarily be able to put 2 + 2 together and "figure out" how sex would work for him, hence the flailing around in the woods with Chris in part 3.
why did Freddy get the ultra dark rapist character bio if that was too much for Jason I wonder?
peeping tom was first though
>Lauren-Marie Taylor had a legitimate crush on her on-screen boyfriend, Tom McBride, but unfortunately for her, McBride was gay.
>McBride, an openly gay man, died in 1995 due to complications from AIDS
Pottery
not to sound awful but did it not cross more gay men's mind, "hey, all my gay buddies are fucking DYING and no one yet knows why... yet this seems to be restricted to male homosexuals at the moment. your average hetero person is not effected. hmm, what could that imply? what is something that can make someone ill but the only common link is sex? why, that sounds like an STD! maybe I should stop having sex with random men?"
fug the aids crisis heavily underlines just how non-monogamous and nasty those communities were/are. why is it so hard to just be same sex attracted yet not a promiscuous nutcase?
>why is it so hard to just be same sex attracted yet not a promiscuous nutcase?
Being gay is like being a heterosexual male rock star, you have unlimited sexual options so its easier to fall into promiscuity. The only thing keeping most straight men from being as promiscuous is the fact that woman practice hypergamy and force you to jump through hoops for access to their holes.
>go on killing spree because guy murdered your son
>don't even kill the guy that did it
with how homos turn out I fail to see the problem. women prevent mens destruction then.
god I hated part 5 so fucking bad
you can hate p5 all you want but this motherfucker was really into it
had to get his character asap to the fuck out of that shitfest dumpsterfire
*get his character killed
look at that fucking bottom lip
he hates chocolate as fuck
chocolate looks like shit
Haven't seen the first one in ages, but I picked up 2, 3, and 4 from the bargain bin and they didn't hold up at all compared to some other horror films I watched as a kid. The Final Chapter was okay, but as a whole they just seem way too safe compared to their contemporaries and the '70s movies that paved the way for them.
fuck off angry axeman
What was his problem? Why was he so out of line?
Thr first film is such a lazy Halloween rip off. It even has the same shot of the male victim getting hung upside down from a doorway.
"M" from the early 30s is the first movie I can think of where the plot revolves around a serial killer. It's not really a slasher film though.
They made the same movie 17 times
like that dark, rainy camp forest setting though. the ambience of the lake/camp/woods is what makes it for me (alongside jason ofc).
Hands of Orlach (1924) and Cabinet of Dr Caligari (1919) both also revolve around a serial killer.
Yeah, the setting is one of the few things I can get behind with them. Have you seen this or Rituals by chance?
part 8 it's underated
and X and 9 are pure shite
I like momma Voorhees though. somehow I never had the first friday kino spoiled for me so I was actually not expecting a woman to be the killer when I finally got around to seeing it.
>Cabinet of Dr Caligari
Shit I forgot about that one. Very good film, might have to see it again now that you mentioned it.
They made 13
Ebert is a fag. He even gave out Betsy Palmer's home address and encouraged people to harass her, at her private home, just because he didn't like the movie. Fuck him. So glad he's dead and that he suffered beforehand.
nope sorry I have not.
certain things can appreciated enough by me to the point where it becomes almost a part of the plot or a character in itself. the soundtrack to the Dexter television show and the iconic camp woods at night during a rainstorm in Friday the 13th are among that category for me.
if any anons haven't yet seen the Maniac slasher remake with Elijah Wood you really should!
They've made 12 you doofuses
>check wikipedia article on horror/exploitation film
>75% chance there's some limp dick moralizing review from Ebert in the critical reception section
>Not picking Sandra as best in F13 pt2
I wish the lawsuit didn't give Gun Media a reason to abandon the game. It's leagues better than DBD, and at its peak was the most fun I had playing a multiplayer game. I wish it wasn't dead.
is the game shut down or just barely played by people now?
Miss double Ds from part 5 is the undisputed GOAT.
It's still going, though finding a match could take awhile. And half the time when you do it's now filled with Russians and hackers so all fun is gone.
fuugggg
The first one was decent. Never liked the Jason movies.
Trish is best girl of the old-school F13s.
You win for googling or knowing the number off the top of your head. Either way you're a the reddit of the reddits.
They're both worth checking out for a similar vibe where these beautiful forest environments gradually morph into something sinister and unwelcoming.
Yeah that game had a lot of potential too. I'd like to see a game with the same idea but with different horror villains like leatherface or maybe original characters to avoid copyright shenanigans.
I don't give a fuck, I like Jason and stopping at 12 kinos when it's FRIDAY THE 13TH is unacceptable. They need to make a 13th one with Derek Mears.
Gun Media's next project is Predator. Same game, only now you're commandos against one guy as Predator.
The remake is the best one. Prove me wrong.
you've intrigued me user.
You're right, you should say it even though it pisses everyone off.
I'm sure you are practicing your epic open mouthed soi face religiously.
no i got a bad habit of clenching my teeth
you might want to check Psycho cop 1
its cheesy but overall very fun all deep in a forest
You must suck dick with a strainer.
>1989
the ideas were running thin, eh? sounds like a fun time, though. i'll check it out
>tfw satanic panic was just dumbasses stumbling onto cases like the Dutroux incident in Belgium and the Alcasser girls scandal in Spain and only halfway understanding that shit like that is run by a network of highly powerful men and that the world is run by pedophiliac male sex drives
wew
I fistfucked your dad's prolapse and he jizzed out you
very different than Maniac cop
very enjoyable in a dumb way
Dead by Daylight
it looks literally homo
They kept killing off all the characters. It became so predictable
its a serial killer impersonating some cop after killing him, terrorizing a group of kids in a forest
PC2 is him going to party in a skyscraper office party with drugs and hookers
Do you think any serial rapists/killer ever went to the kinoplex and caught a showing of Halloween or Black Christmas or whatever and went like,
>Oh yeah, that's me, edgy, nihilistic with a wicked sense of humor!
that's crazy user
yes, ______________________me______________________
When I eat a borger the ending is always the same but I'm still satisfied.
Had no idea this existed. Thx
user you have to actually leave the house and interact with someone to do that!
not if i take the bodies here
>user
>interacting with someone who rings their doorbell
wew
>tfw Dead by Daylight and Friday the 13th game are just vestigial leftovers from playing tag or hide and seek as a kid
Because it's a wrong opinion.
on that note, Jason is just a dumb dumb who doesn't understand how hide and seek works.
well! what's the best one for you user!
50 year old with a 12 year old's ability to insult. Good luck with continuing to be a loser.
You need to get faster and better with your bants user.
3 is the best of the classic Jason movies, while 6 is great for the newer supernatural Jason movies.
That's what makes it so fun. having to survive an overpowered foe with your friends using your wit and evasive skills.
I wanted to like 3 so much since he gets his mask then but it so awful it was horrendous. Shelley...
Why did he job so hard?
I'd just try to bite his trachea and shit and brap on him desu
>it so awful it was horrendous. Shelley...
Wow, a compelling argument. You've convinced me that it's not good.
wtf does that mean nigga
It just went too long.
After Part VII people had enough of it.
Though Freddy vs Jason was good.
listen heisenBERG, how anyone can sit through a hour of an obese kike and think it was a good time is beyond me.
>kike
There we go. Thank you for finally being honest about why you dislike it.
It's not, though. It's literally the best one.
Only one more fun is Freddy vs. Jason.
>implying that this is a bad thing at all
holy fuck
>when it cuts to Jason up on the roof of the house when people think he's still outside on the ground
K I N O
I've only seen the first 5 movies, and I really liked the feel of the first 3, but 4 and 5 just didn't do it for me. I've heard most people either love or hate 6, so I don't know if or when I'll watch it. So far
3 > 1 > 2 >>>> 4 > 5
>remake final girl gets rescued by her deadbeat brother and 9 months later Jason Jr pops out
tell me it wouldn't be kino
The 90s happened.
Can we get a FUCKING power ranking please? Jesus Christ
I wish they showed more of her tits.
ok
2009 remake > every other Jason kino
(((SHUT IT D O W N)))
wtf did he mean by this?
Giallo as a term comes from old mystery novels in their Italian translations, printed on yellow (giallo) covers. This would be stuff like Arthur Conan Doyle, Agatha Christie, etc. In Italy you will see a section of a library called giallo instead of mystery, it covers the whole range. In America we think of giallos as only these proto slasher murder mystery films pioneered by Bava and perfected by Argento. In actually the first giallo film was Ossessione from 1943, directed by Luchino Visconti and adapted from the French translation of The Postman Always Rings Twice. This ties film noir back into the mix too, further proving that giallo isn't about horror so much as thriller/mystery stuff in general. Personally though I think noir and horror have a lot in common, I read this book called Horror Noir: Where Cinema's Dark Sisters Meet that highlights a lot of similarities. Also in Italy there is this term called filome. It's sort of like "genre" but not really, a filome is like a stream that branches off into many other streams. So if we take the giallo filome, from there you have crime stories going into another stream, with other streams of their own, horror going into another stream, and all these streams can overlap and develop off one another. Similar to how elitists always refer to film "movements" like French New Wave etc but in my opinion this concept of filomes is much more organic and easy to understand. I read about this concept called vernacular cinema which is very interesting and all this stuff kind of falls into that.
*a challenger appears*
Mr X on the top-left there...
Remake > Part 2 > Original > all others
I want to FUCK non-zombie Jason
People that dislike Part 6 are brainlets.
this nigger crazy
Trends run their course.
Five more years, and people will wonder why they liked capeshit so much.
Boi looks like he’s ‘bout to start the most shit-hot shrimp fishing business the world ever seen with his retarded war buddy...
GOD I WISH lmao it can't come fast enough please happen!
I'd switch part 6 and part 4 and would put part 7 higher and part 5 lower but it's a pretty good ranking
Jason never made sense. If he didn’t die in the lake why is Ma Voorhees killing counselors for. If he lived, how did some retard kid not get noticed
That's insane
Remake>FvJ>Original>II>VII>JGtH>IV>III>V>X>VI>VIII
For you guys I recommend The Prowler, badass dude in WWII uniform pitchforking college kids, also check out Intruder, a slasher in a grocery store during graveyard shift that has some fucking brutal as fuck kills (head chopped in half with bandsaw and teeth and flesh chunks flying everywhere), as well as Body Count by Deodato, the guy who did Cannibal Holocaust. Body Count is nuts, tons and tons of kills plus it's just sleazy Italians trying to make an American slasher so they have their actors wear shirts that say "USA" and "New York" constantly. Shit's tight
jason could've been a humble crystal lake crawfish vendor who barters his crustaceans for basic respect and dignity...
>you've lived long enough to see people start to like the remake.
i should've killed myself a decade ago
They stopped making them
How can they even call it a remake when the mama isn't the killer? Clown world for real.
got sucked into a cave or mine system, barely survived. when he finally found his way out everyone was gone, camp was shut down. where's momma? can't find her plus he's likely retarded and now has lasting damage from nearly drowning. can't find his way to town.
proceeds to hug a tree and live off of camp supplies and the land. lives the jungle book life and hides when people come around since he's a retard and has been stealing to get by. only realizes too late that mom is back but now she is dead.
>Clown world for real.
Stop using /pol/ buzz words that you don't even understand.
That reminds me of an amazing long dead online Half Life 2 mod called The Hidden. Bunch of guys with guns against a near invisible man with a knife who can climb walls and move incredibly fast. Always wanted a proper release of a game like that.
I thought the remake handled it fine by cutting to Ma’s death in the opening scene.
The remake gets too much shit. It’s the best out of all the slasher remakes
but momma is the killer for about the first 2 minutes of the kino...
>It’s the best out of all the slasher remakes
This is true, but to be fair the competition isn't exactly that stiff.
unlike some other things...
I'm not following you.
I wish my mom had loved me, now I get envious of a fictitious deformed slasher.
I think TCM was the best remake.
The TCM remake is vastly superior. The F13 remake is a decent slasher movie, but doesn't even attempt to replicate the atmosphere or vibe of the original 4 movies. Its too slickly produced and not, y'know, in a fucking abandoned summer camp.
Jason not yet zombified makes me stiff you know?
it's... adjacent.... to it
What's the difference between Friday the 13th and the Holocaust, Yea Forums?
>imagine the smell
TMC remake is awful and only liked by people they grew up on it over the original.
I’d argue the F13 remake is superior to the original. For one, it’s not a blatant Halloween knockoff and it streamlines all the three Friday movies into a more coherent story, where the originals were making shit up as they went along
They've stopped exploiting F13?
tell me please
I love the fucking tunnels
I'm more of a hills have eyes kinda guy
>survive first encounter with Jason
>wake up at just the right time to save the girl and be a hero to avenge for being a dick earlier to her friends
>spring out and attack only to get your hand cut off and then sliced to bits only serving as a mild distraction at most.
its set in a fucking mansion so all the mise en scene is bland, slick interiors. fucking boring. putting shit in the forest isn't that much more visually interesting, but the old cabins and rusty machetes and shit at least add flavor.
I would never suggest the TCM remake is better than the original, that's fucking asinine. But its a better remake than F13 as it at least tried to recreate the hazy, sweaty, redneck nightmare vibe of the original.
people care about the body count in a friday movie
yeah ok blacks die in horror flicks but what does job mean in this context?
there's documented evidence that the F13 movies actually happened
Ruh-roh!
omg lol
I mean that F13 was the perfect 80s franchise, and crossing into the new decade killed the magic.
Look at the shit the 90s gave the franchise; Jason Goes to Hell and Jason X, both are abortions of the series.
but the stupendous nipple placement, the hilarious implication that Jason is a pot farmer...
Jason X - Jason in Space - ‘Spacon’
outstanding
the plots were boring.
tom savini admitted that they basically just remade the last movie over and over but just making new interesting kills but remaking the plot.
parts 1 to 4 are basically the same movie over and over. the same premise.
i never understood why they didnt expand on the town in crystal lake or the residents.
i dont understand why there werent detectives or more police at crystal lake, why didnt they change the plots a little
they could have made so much more, even just change characters,
Spacon is a precious child!
Jobbing is like an anime/wrestling term for when someone loses a fight to prop someone else up. In this case he jobbed to Jason twice to showcase that not even a fully grown big bad black man with a weapon can stand up to Jason, thus, increasing his clout and threat level.
It's a wrestling term mostly. It just means that for as big and menacing as the black guy was supposed to be, he put up a horribly worse fight than the little white girl did. He should have done some damage to Jason but did jack shit.
The Chad Deformed Aryan vs the virgin healthy negro
What didn’t the remake not do the originals did better?
Remake
Streamlined less convoluted storyline
Creeey lake atmosphere and tunnel system
Made Jason actually scary by making him fast and agile instead of a lumbering Myers knockoff
That blonde was the best choice in rape victims in any movie I've ever seen.
plus he has a girlfriend so he's a well adjusted normie in that kino unlike Mikey, Freddy or leatherbdsmboy
Nothing? As far as slasher movie series go, Friday the 13th vastly outpaces its competitors. Sure, it never had an individual film as good as the original Halloween or Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but F13 was able to sustain a franchise much better and have relatively good sequels. Even the bad entries aren’t nearly as bad as, say, Halloween: Ressurection or TCM: The Next Generation. Plus, its remake was one of the only good slasher movie remakes, alongside TCM’s.
Naw, she was his mommy replacement, which made it creepy as fuck
if only they would make a new one and then all of Yea Forums could go in such a large group that we'd all be coupled up, there would be no singles and we could have crab legs and watch Jason one... more... time...
Agreed. They took place of about a week, but the police rarely show up. The people camping there never just go home. There's this psycho who has murdered 20 people on the loose, but people keep arriving.
But it's a world where the 80s apparently lasted 30 years, so who knows how it works there.
Who would’ve thought Child’s Play be the most consistently good series.
pffftt what? haha who would do something like that?
>"N-Nani!!?"
for me it's parts 3, 4, and 5
>Keep a hot, curvey redhead prison for months
>Die a virgin
Really underscored how retarded he was, imo. Like, someone who was just malicious would've seeded her 4-5 times a day. But he wasn't really evil. He was just a gigantic retard who acted like a dumb, territorial animal.
>it's a world where the 80s apparently lasted 30 years, so who knows how it works there
god I wish that were me
people are shitting on part 6 for becoming a comedy but part 6 is the only movie where the camp is open with kids in it and the only movie that has a cop as one of the protagonists.
you get to see more of the town and learn more about jason
he's pure
Because I don't give a fuck about the plot of a god damn Jason movie. I don't need to know why or how he survived drowning as a kid or he gets around Crystal Lake. I don't want it shot with 10 million dollar cameras and starring the immaculately attractive CW all stars. I don't want long sequences shot in what appears to be the Hearst mansion after visiting hours.
What I like about the original 4 F13 movies are their bare bones, cheap-shit, grindhouse aesthetic. Its hard to define, but beyond what's just a really gnarly atmosphere of rural rain-soaked terror, there's this sleazy, exploitative sense that this is trash made by hucksters, but thats a _good_ thing. Its unapologetic in its hateful ambitions, promising nothing but the tits of a few desperate actresses and gross-out practical effects that you'll remember long after your girl stops burying her face in your chest because she can't bare to look.
The remake is an actual hollywood production. It has famous names attached, actual money was put into it, it was released on 3000 screens after a long, national promotional campaign... again its not BAD, its a fine little Michael Bay-produced retro-slasher. But there was a sense to the originals, even after having seen them a million times, that these were movies made by outsiders, movies that are unauthorized in a way, movies you can't trust. Who knows how fucked up this trash might get, and it leaves a greasy kind of aftertaste. Thats the flavor that Platinum Dunes will never replicate.
Kikes still make sure all the cast tongue punch their kosher fartboxes so it's still just as nasty behind the scenes. That's something isn't it user?
I get what you’re saying. It’s exactly how I feel about the TMC remake
To be fair it doesn't confirm or deny anything, she screams her head off whenever he shows up.
Well said. There's something about those old horror movies man, like someone just found a snuff film in the woods somewhere and brought it to a seedy theater.
you could just watch cartel gore videos
Gods she is cute
No one because it isn't
I think they always cast the girls in those to tick off certain boxes so that at least one will appeal to everyone.
It’s the old cheap cameras, TCM remake is especially guilty of lacking this. TCM is one of the greatest horror movies ever made bc it’s gritty as hell and seems much more real than a slick production. A lot of early slashers have this feel until everything started looking more polished in the mid 80s or whatever. Ft13th looked polished but had other Jason boxes it could check off: boobs, gore, Jason in a mask running after you, so I enjoyed it more than the TCM remake but that wasent horrible and a lot of my friends liked it
What you're talking about is what I find missing in the series, though. I'm assuming it was because they were backed by a big studio like Paramount but I always got the sense that they were pulling their punches while contemporary films like Maniac, The New York Ripper, or Nightmare in a Damaged Brain reveled in excessive violence and sleaze, giving the viewer what more mainstream entries in the slasher genre promised but didn't deliver on.
Well they usually hit you with the smoking hot babe who's kind of slutty, the pretty but modest alpha female, and a cute homely chick like her.
Post your favorite obscure slasher movie.
ah, but see, to this is what I think F13 franchise owes its ongoing popularity, and why I think its so great personally. It straddles that line between gritty, grind house exploitation and mainstream studio accessibility. Its got that sleazy, drive-in disrepute, but still works as an actual movie, unlike its many inferior HALLOWEEN rip-off contemporaries. Tom Savini and Joseph Zito are there, but so are Kevin Bacon and an astonishingly competent musical score.
Jason's sackcloth mask is a total steal from this but I'm not complaining
That has a remake, lol.
>Clown world for real.
this has nothing to do with the "clown world" meme
I know terms like "dreamlike" or "nightmarish" are extremely overused but this movie genuinely felt like a nightmare unfolding to me, and whether that's through purposeful execution or sheer incompetence I don't know, but I fucking love it.
>tfw from the late 40s - late 70s you could just rape and kill upper middle class white Americans and get away with it for decades
wew, those Texarkana Moonlight Murders
bad joke but bravo anyway
Only horror movie I know of where a pregnant woman has her baby snatched out from the womb and eaten in front of her.
It's actually not a remake, but a weird meta sequel. It takes place in a world where the original film is just a movie based off the real-life murders, but now someone is recreating the movie as they kill people. It was pretty alright.
thank you
>ywn be a thrill killer in the 50s, 60s and 70s
what's the point? you could live out your whole dumb boomer life and croak before they even found you.
That's close to mine but I don't know why he thinks the original is so bad. It has a cozy camp atmosphere. Like an evil version of Meatballs or Little Darlings or something.
SAW is the only horror franchise that stayed equal in every movie as far as atmosphere, look plot, sets, characters.
love them or hate them, SAW 1 to 7 tell one complete story in the same world with the same characters
Totally. I binge watched a bunch of unsolved mysteries on youtube and 40s-80s were really a golden era. You could just climb through a window, rape everyone at gunpoint and bounce. Nowadays they would have you recorded on 6 different cameras going to the house, have your search history showing you looked up "How to not leave evidence at scene of crime", and the 3 year old called 911 on her iphone as soon as you strangled the mom.
I also like this 10 to Midnight movie with Charles Bronson. I guess it's not technically a slasher but the villain in it kills everyone with a knife while he's naked because he's sexually frustrated. It's a little like Pat Bateman. There's a scene at the end where he goes on a rampage in a sorority that's exactly some some real case, I forget which one, Ted Bundy maybe or that other guy that killed all those nurses.
>boomers got the weirdly prosperous time period, a white nation and all the thrill killing they could've wanted but all they do is hate the children they chose to raise and whine
KILL ME
the friday the 13th movies were the "paranormal activity" of the 80s.
cheap quick cash grabs.
15 years from now there will a remake of paranormal activity and then millenials and zoomers will feel nostalgic over the quality of iphone cameras and nostalgic over the shitty cgi in paranormal activity....
there's still nuggets of crazy shit to ponder even today however. look up the semi-recent unsolved Dermond couple slaying. old couple got done in and it reminds me strongly of the film "Funny Games."
By the point when people started dying, it was too late. Whether you stopped fucking without protection or continued to do so, you likely were already infected.
The original was based on real killings in Texarkana.
P6
> great
Jason Goes to Hell
> great
P5
> great
P2 = P3 = P4 = 09
> very good
P7
> very good (only reasons it's not higher is because, the cast is mostly really unlikable, the kills are notably censored and the ending with the dad coming back was stupid)
Freddy vs Jasom
> good
Jason X
> good
Original
> decent
P8
> poor
welp, looks like monogamy is actual a functional guideline who would've known?
Katie had great tits.
>>you've lived long enough to see people start to like the remake.
>i should've killed myself a decade ago
It was always liked more then any other modern slasher remake minus the 2003 TCM.
I think we can all agree 8 was the shittiest.
>Jason Goes to Hell
>abortions of the series.
Nah, it's severely underrated and damn good.
Best body swapping film out there besides The Hidden.
My stance on it...
Pros...
> Most mature well acted cast of the franchise.
> Solid final girl.
> Duke is cool & mysterious.
> Great Jason make up & stature, he is imposing as fuck.
> Best gore of the series.
> 2nd best sex scene of the series.
> Great opening.
> Great finale.
> Great diner shootout.
> Solid score.
Cons...
> Duke is underused.
> Jason's outfit is generic.
> The claws that drag Jason to hell look kinda cheap.
> Not enough Jason.
> Jason looking exactly like he did when he was killed after being resurrected through Diana's body is weird.
What I would have done different within reason...
> Never have Diana's body be moved to the Voorhees house. Have the morgue be built into the police station and so when CampbellJason attacks the police station he resurrects himself there and so the whole diner massacre sequence has him in his traditional Jason body.
>but the police rarely show up
They are swarming all over the camp at the end of 2 and you see them on the news when Jason kills the grocery store owners.
When Kris and her friends arrive in 3 they see the bodies being taken out of the store.
At the end of 3 & the start of 4 cops are all over Higgins Haven (made of a great opening to 4, the shot of the clean up crew all pulling out into the distance leaving Haven in dark silence was almost haunting)
At that point it's put out on the news that the killer is dead.
And remember even if it weren't the Jarvis family actually lives at the lake, they weren't just vacationing there.
For me, it was the repetitive murdering of every single character. You go into it pretty much knowing everyone gets killed. Not exciting.
Oh I'm aware.
Nah. Part 8 was Kane Hodder's best performance and is one of the funnier films in the series. Part 7 and Jason X have most of their kills take place off screen, and the latter doesn't do enough with its campy premise to make it anywhere close to good. It just ends up shitting on the rest of the franchise.
Friday the 13th has a very simple formula. Jason picks off campers one by one until the hero finds out and does the final run. It builds suspense for the final act.
After part 7 the films forgot the formula and instead put Jason in wacky situations.
Even the reboot forgot the formula. After the black guy dies everyone knows they have a killer running around and it turns into a Scream movie with teens in a house being stalked by a killer.
I always found it funny that Jason manages to kill everyone smoothy and without hassle until the last 1 or 2, then all of sudden hes playing hide and go seek. Like what if he botched the very first kill, would be a lot like the video game with 4 people driving off and the other knocking him down and tea bagging him.
Part 8 is the best and is up there with Evil Dead 2 and AOD for greatest horror comedy
>Jason Takes The Boat not Manhattan
>Crystal lake connects to the ocean
>best theme song
>Jason is Aquaman
>slant eye gook qt
>80s hairband qt
>kino sexual harassment by the teacher
>black guy fight with decapitation
>NY scenes were great
>jason turns into a baby
>theme song so good they play it two times
Too bad you're too retarded to write one
Where the fuck is the love for this hilarious piece of shit?
i like how Jason privately chuckles to himself a few times in this one
Yeah, she show up in a couple of scenes, but it's not consistent. They're there at the end of 3...but when he escapes, we never see them again.
Yeah,. I'm not buying it.
after jason becoming a weird little demon jumping from body to body,
after jason becoming a robot and going to space...
after jason became a giant frankenstein monster to fight jason
the remake made jason threatening and scary and tough again...
the remake made him a rough, no nonsense killing machine.
a killing force of nature.
the remake jason was more threatening than jason was in part 5 ( fake jason) or part 8 or 9.
i dont care how clean or pristine the cameras look.
jason as a character was perfect.
Me? I choose J.J.
>theme song so good they play it two times
Based
youtu.be
Catchy song from a New Beginning (new wave girl gets killed to it maybe?)
I've seen enough slasher films to know they're all written by retards. I think I'm qualified.
This movie has some f13 vibes and I dont see it posted too often but a neat little slasher none the less
too bad she died so early.
that movie kept some useless shitty characters like the black boxer for much longer but they kill the hottest girl early on
thats when you know these movies were made by careless cokeheads
I have soft spot for 8. I remember staying up late over my grandma's when I was 12 because she had HBO and it came on. I'd never seen a F13 and I remember it was so tense at the beginning when the girl got impaled at the very beginning. I had a blast watching and loved the sound track.
Look at this intro, it's pure late 80s NYC kino.
my favorite Jason kino outside of the first four. I'm an old enough fag to remember the 2 years this sat on the shelf before release, and that it was the first time I got to see my boy Voorhees on the big screen. The spirit of this movie is the spirit of Friday the 13th, down to the wink wink recreation of the deleted Part VII scene. haters get fucked.
>After the black guy dies everyone knows they have a killer running around and it turns into a Scream movie with teens in a house being stalked by a killer.
After they leave the house it gets good. The moment with the girl hiding in the overturned bus and kicking the shit out of Jason was great.
We need a prequel with backstory of the college kids from that bus getting slaughtered.
Newest one wasnt bad. Granted they treated it like a reboot (which I'm sure there will be another in 4 years).
>>Jason Takes The Boat
Thing is that would have been a fine premise all on it's own, but they didn't even do that well AND it's hampered by our disappointment that he isn't in NYC more.
> but when he escapes
He had a axe in his skull, they just thought he was dead and the body had been stolen.
>the remake jason was more threatening than jason was in part 5 ( fake jason) or part 8 or 9.
Eh, Jason in 9 was great and imposing as fuck.
Hey, the boat scenes in Takes Manhattan were great. Instilled a nice sense of claustrophobia, compared to the open forests of past movies.
>a little old lady manage to pin a motherfucker to a door with arrows, throw a corpse through a window, and disappear a bunch of teenagers
How come Jason’s Ma was so strong, anyway?
Biggest Friday the 13th thread I’ve seen in a while (and now it will die)
We need more period piece slashers.
Pic related came out recently with Jack the Ripper coming to the old west.
I would like to see a movie about this - en.wikipedia.org
Sneed.
Part 7 onward. Though Jason X and Freddy VS Jason were alright.
> Let them not try to discover what I am, for it were better that they were never born than to incur the wrath of the Axeman
> Undoubtedly, you Orleanians think of me as a most horrible murderer, which I am, but I could be much worse if I wanted to. If I wished, I could pay a visit to your city every night. At will I could slay thousands of your best citizens (and the worst), for I am in close relationship with the Angel of Death.
This has a lot of potential.
Have it take place in 1919 and the present day True Detective style with the killer returning through supernatural means.
T H I C C
Oh shit...
> In American Horror Story: Coven, starting with episode "The Axeman Cometh", the Axeman is portrayed by Danny Huston.
This guy is literally making movies just because he looks like Charlie Bronson.
The Norwegian Cold Prey trilogy.
Fantastic snowbound setting.
First 2 films have a great final girl played by Ingrid Bolso Berdal (snake tattooed girl in westworld)
Really menacing ghost/phantom like killer.
3rd film is a prequel and the lesser of the series altho still worth seeing.
Cool poster for a shit flick.
Died too early. And the only other attractive girls were coke-headed bitches.
It's allegedly getting a sequel.
> First 2 films have a great final girl played by Ingrid Bolso Berdal (snake tattooed girl in westworld)
Bless her for getting fully naked... and FUCK the retards who gave her the awful ugly Merkin, I don't give a fuck if it's period appropriate.
It fucking sucks.
>allegedly died as a kid
>comes back and murders a bunch of camp counselors.
>Kills a bunch of campers staying at a farmhouse.
>Body goes missing
Cops: Oh well, must have been stolen. Case Closed!
I don't think they knew it was the Jason Voorhees who drowned.
So they thought it was some other severely deformed dude of the same age, who lived in those woods and for some inexplicable reason just decided to kill counselors at that camp?
I am sure they pieced it together eventually but not the night they pulled his body out of the barn.
Amy Steel is the most attractive female to ever star in a slasher movie
Disagree.
I used to think she was really cute but on my most recent rewatch I kept getting a dyke vibe from her overly tomboy looking face.
She's not even the most attractive woman in Pt 2.
>what went wrong
It wasn't Texas Chainsaw Massacre
She was having a hallucination after an extremely traumatic event, and extreme exhaustion.
It’s far from perfect but has a lot of good elements, I like to think of it as a Crystal Lake Jason side story thing
The remake is just what was needed after 5 films of zombie-Jason slowly walking everywhere (except those times he teleports). It updated Jason and made him feel like he could be a threat to anyone, not just teenagers running about cabins in the rain. Also Jason using a weapon at range is fantastic, I love his speargun kill in 3 but him tomahawking an ax in the remake is one of his best kills of all time.
>Following the release of Friday the 13th (1980), Adrienne King had numerous encounters with an obsessive fan. The situation escalated into a stalker case, and she decided to avoid any further acting opportunities. She has not done any on-screen film work since, but has done voice over work on several films more than 15 years later.
God I miss the 80s
>Not leaving shit in her fridge
Not stabbing her to death and getting away with it
Imagine the legacy that would have left on the series
And great feet
>6 the best one
Of course a "schlock" loving Freddyfag who made Space Cop would think so
Fuck no are you crazy
Saw 1 and 2 are the only good ones
I kind of agree with him. For 7 movies the quality doesn't really fall as low as most horror franchises tend to.
>Best body swapping film out there besides The Hidden
that's Fallen
FEELS LIKE A SNUFF FILM SOMEONE FOUND IN THE WOODS AND BROUGHT HOME TIER
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Friday the 13th
Friday the 13th part 2
KINO TIER
A Nightmare on Elm Street 2
Hellraiser
Friday the 13th part 3
Friday the 13th part 4
Friday the 13th part 5
Halloween
GOOD TIER
Hellraiser 2
Friday the 13th part 7
Halloween 2
Halloween 3
A Nightmare on Elm Street
A Nightmare on Elm Street 3
Wes Craven's New Nightmare
DECENT TIER
Freddy VS Jason
A Nightmare on Elm Street 4
Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare
Friday the 13th Remake
MEH TIER (But who has standards for these anyway)
A Nightmare on Elm Street 5
Friday the 13th part 8 (only good after they leave the boat)
DECENT BUT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE "SELF-AWARE" HUMOR TIER
Friday the 13th part 6
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
Scream 2
SHIT BECAUSE OF THE CRAP "SELF-AWARE" HUMOR TIER
Jason X
The other Texas Chainsaw Massacre movies that do that whatever
Scr3am
Scre4m
COMPLETE FUCKING GARBAGE TIER
The other Halloween movies (even the remakes. Every single one).
Friday the 13th part 9: Jason Goes to Hell
DON'T EVEN REMEMBER TIER
Anything else
Lead chick in 3 was way more attractive. So was the one who died in the hammock.