Babylon 5

>still unbeaten as a long form science fiction show
how did JMS do it?

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>have a vision
>don't compromise
>let it play out to the end and follow through no matter what
The three pillars of science fiction.

no exec would let this fly

That's why you can either have execs or science fiction but not both.

He didn't. He lost his notes for the final seasons and the main actor got schizophrenia

He had the story, with all the details, planned out from the start. With other shows, at best you have some rough ideas about where they might go. It's great except for season 5, which is sub-par for obvious reasons. If the show wasn't cancelled after 4, it would've been the literal perfection.

you are confused as hell. The captain had to drop out after the first season, but he was brought back to tie off his story arc. The final season was a bit of a tack on, cause a lot of the plot was crammed into season 4 cause they were cancelled. But then season 5 was renewed late and so he had to rework his cut plot lines to make it work. Season 5 was a drop in quality, but the Londo stuff was fucking stellar

Kill yourself redditfag. He stayed as close to his original vision as life and circumstance would allow. I hope you and your disgusting cunt of a mother both get cancer.

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How am I confused If you just agreed with me? Also they do an experimental attempt at using cgi. I love the series but it's had a lot of missteps

>He stayed as close to his original vision as life and circumstance would allow.
Yeah it could have been better. I like the show. Calm the fuck down

Kill yourself faggot scum

There has never been as good an arc as Londo on tv.

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What is your problem? There were many difficulties that went through the making of B5. Should no one point that out?

you failed to raise any points as to how it wasn't more cohesive and well written than any other sci-fi show. You bring up flaws that every show has, what was the point?

Is G'Kar the best written character in fiction? His arc was so fucking good.

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what I love about this show is all the trap doors JMS placed for each character, so he could replace the actor but not essentially the character. No TV show or movie has the forsight to do this.

You should have your fucking throat cut you disgusting little weasel. everyone knows what fucking happened, just let people enjoy a b5 thread without your pathetic attempts at educating people. I fucking despise you cunt. I bet you're one of those faggots who just cant wait to tell a crying newfag the name of a movie. Shut the fuck up.

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The show was about Londo Mollari from beginning to end. It was not a human-centric show but it did present the Centauri as having all the same flaws as humans.

>what was the point?
It could have been better and more successful as a franchise

>watch Lost fans get butt hurt by ending.
>watch GoT fans get butt hurt by final season.
>I am a Babylon 5 fan, I will always be pure, because no one gives a shit about my franchise.

Talking about B5 in a B5 thread is bad? Calm down. I like the show too

the only trap door I hate is just cause Claudia didn't tell them she wanted to quit and so they killed Marcus instead. That was a dick move

why can't execs just let something be successful?

I'll never understand why they did that to Lennier

they did for a few years with the xfiles

I think it's cause I know about the actors problems IRL, but I will always be a Sinclair fag. Even though he didn't have many good episodes, I just loved what they did with the character to retconn him into being the Membari main religion.

RIP for all the lovely dead actors

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It was good but the last season was shit

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>the last season was shit
as an arc? sure, but the final 4 episodes were unparallel, I have never seen wrap up with that much love

DS9 completely ripped off of B5

I hate getting into a pissing argument over which was better but still, yes you are right

I like them both but yeah

God damn G'Kar
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there is no character arcs like Londo and G'Kar in tv. They start from polar opposites, they end that way but they cross right through the middle. it's fucking amazing writing

reading this trilogy i was similarly impressed with how the author was able to juggle so many different plot points and characters and wrap it all up, just like how jms was. the plot itself doesn't have much in common with b5 but i'd recommend this to anyone looking for a massive and and nicely wrapped up sci fi story. it takes a bit to get going but power through the book's start and you'll love it.

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B5 had not one, but TWO great finales - Deconstruction of Falling Stars and Sleeping In the Light. I can't think of many long running fantasy / SF shows that even managed one

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