Julian, we've got to gas all the bloody Cardies!

>Julian, we've got to gas all the bloody Cardies!

Jesus, I know DS9 was supposed to be the edgy Star Trek, but isn't this a bit much?

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A most friendly reminder Gul Dukat did nothing wrong

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>abloo bloo S31 are bad
>literally nothing on the talshiar
>obsidian order laughing guls
>friendly bajoran jihadis are ok

just what the fuck was soikos problem with S31?

false DS9 is the MOST bluepilled of all treks. lets take a look at the recently released DS9 documentary What We Left Behind

In the documentary they
1. Dedicated time to feminism and the "strong female characters" of DS9
2. Dedicated time to police brutality
3. Dedicated time to black fathers
4. Dedicated time to patting themselves on the back for being one of the first shows to have scenes with only black characters
5. Dedicated time to muh racist drumpf and racist white guys
6. Dedicated time to LGBT representation
7. Had an entire segment where Ira pauses the entire movie to have a moment where they talk about how the show didn't have enough sexual identity propaganda
8. The big nosed guy (obvious jew) wore a shirt celebrating communist terrorist Che Guevarra and likened Kira to him
9. Had a moment to talk about how poverty is all the Republicans fault for not caring and not being socialists
10. Dedicated a segment to reveal that Garack is gay and that (((Behrs))) biggest regret was not making him and Bashir a couple
11. Almost all the "fans" interviewed were disproportionately female or nonwhite despite the fact the majority of STs audience are white males

It’s obvious that only one type of narrative allowed in media. The type that is antiwhite, antichristian, antinationalist and antimale. The Jews will not stop until everything white men adored is turned into leftist brainwashing rubbish.

This is the single red pilled episode of all of fiction television ever

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*most

nah. dishonest dishonorable shadey schemes like the one sisko used in this episode are typically tools of the left and nonwhites

All warfare is based on deception

uh... that's not true at all and a little racist but ok

i thought it was all oil based.

whites faced saddam in the field of battle and defeated his military fair and square, after which the nonwhites continued to fight as insurgents using subversive cowardly tactics

gaddafi was overthrown by his own people who he oppressed

kim is playing ball and trump has basically made them bend the knee with his brilliant diplomatic manoeuvring

Are you fucking 12 years old?

seething

Well this thread is off to a shitty start. Maybe if it was a Voyager thread it would be decent.

This movie is redpilled

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Both Saddam and Gaddafi had treaties with US where they give up weapons programs and US will not antagonize them .. Both goth dehtroned as result of US military action - Saying anything else shows you were born after the fact

but Voyager is the 3rd most bluepilled trek after DS9 and STD

"I don't hate YOU specifically, Cardie cunt! I hate the fact that your race exists and I want to brutally murder each and every one of you!

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Shut the fuck up, faggot. Don't ever reply to me again. Actually, just fucking kill yourself.

Saddam provoked the war by harboring Al Quaeda and giving aid to Osama Bin Laden and refused to hand over its remaining WMD so they broke the treaty first

and again Gaddafi was overthrown by his own people, not the US military,

nah. you leftists are the ones who destroyed trek threads. no one is allowed to talk about TOS because of you DS9/Voy zoomers. you reap what you sow.

Literally fake news and CNN publicly apologized

CNN is not the US Government, you are fake news.

Bootlicker

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>US government
literally fake news central

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Nope. Just stating 100% facts as agreed upon by all relevant sources and the UN Security Ciuncil

>whites
>the US military is disproportionately composed of black and latino youth

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The commanders are white thought

>leftists seething so hard they defend the brutal dictatorships of saddam gaddafi and kim

Yikes.

They follow the orders and play by the rules of the white men who lead them and govern them. They’re just a tool used by the white man to carry out his wishes

hmmm

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DUDE WAR AND DIPLOMACY ARE DIRTY AFFAIRS!
I ARE SO SMART FOR UNDERSTANDING THIS! SHOW SMART FOR TELLING ME THIS BASIC TRUTH THAT EVERYONE WHO STUDIED HISTORY IN HIGH SCHOOL ALREADY KNOWS!

Part literal Scotsman

It's actually the old autistic white dudes who suck Kirk's dick all day who ruined Trek threads. Their constant bitching about how shit /trek/ is because people want to talk about something other than a poorly written three season show filmed on cardboard sets in the 60's is what killed the fun. You are hostile and shitty and without the tripfags keeping threads active they die at 20 posts because people hate talking with you.
You need DS9 fans to keep Trek discussion alive. TOS fags are parasites.

A whole bunch of people in this thread don't seem to agree with us user

Anyways I’m done trying to lecture zoomers on politics and white cultural value, let’s talk about TOS, the best trek. What are your favorite episodes?mine would be Let That Be Your Last Battlefield which showed the importance of separating the races

user, if you're a cop and you murder someone in your custody whos suspected of murder doesn't mean you're not committing murder yourself

Lmao the utter arrogance of DSNiggers and the tripfags they orbit.

based

I like the one where Kirk uses deceptions to infiltrate an enemy ship and steal technology

Speaking the truth is not arrogance.

Holy fuck, you're my new hero.

That was an episode written by a woman. Subversion comes naturally to them

Please get back on the topic of trek you’ve derailed this thread with your DS9 tripfag worship enough.

>4th post
>DS9 is BLUEPILLED and KEKED and run by fucking JEWS trying to GENOCIDE the WHITE RACE which is HONORABLE and COURAGEOUS
>Those damn liberals always ruining Trek threads
ok

Anyway, let's talk about O'Brien. Has he suffered enough? I don't think he has.

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All trek is edgy.

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You're wasting your time. The main TOS fag never directly answers to criticism and starts posting about other shit, then waits until the next /trek/ and samefags with webms from the animated series.

All while complaining about other people ruining the thread. If I didn't know better I'd say he's baiting, but of course no one lies on the internet.

When will mallcucks and Basedagers stop derailing threads with tripfag worship and whining about TOS. You’d think they were the only treks in existence the amount of circle jerking they do between them

Soi-agers*

*ahem*
FUCK THE FEDERATION AND FUCK SISKO

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If he were baiting then he wouldn't spam frogs and cry about being bullied his whole life. If it were trolling then there would be a point beyond curling up in a ball on Yea Forums and crying until the meanies stop.
He would also address the people he doesn't like directly but instead he chooses to passive aggressively bitch about how persecuted he feels because people call him out for being an asshole.
Fuck that guy.

Just do it as SÔYagers

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imagine being this far up your own asshole

based and maquis-pilled

We can all agree that nu-Trek and especially STD are extremely cancerous though, right?

the federation were supposed to be above all that.

All of the treks are bluepilled on some level. But the true leftist pozzing didn’t actually start until DS9 and Voy. Both are cancer and everything after it has been more cancer

The new Trek movies are the shot in the arm Trek has needed for years and brought in a lot of new fans who never would have cared about Trek beyond TNG. STD is a dumpster fire only retards and masochists enjoy.

>all treks are bluepilled
Well not all characters are though.

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Trek didn’t need new fans, after TNG all the new treks did was bring in nonwhites, women and LGBTP

Well going by that DS9 has the most redpilled characters

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more like based paris

Of course it takes a criminal to know one

Kirk = Archer > Sisko > Janeway > Picard

You are boring.

Coming home from a Phil Collins concert and that Asian who played fucking Harry Kim was playing the trombone

Miles was so fucking based. Easily my favorite character from DS9.

How old is Bashirfaggot again?

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Fuck off

I’m a little racist but Sisko is still my second favourite captain.

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Holy shit Ballard from that one episode of voyager is cute

cringe

kys faggot

30

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>9. Had a moment to talk about how poverty is all the Republicans fault for not caring and not being socialists

Every major West Coast city is getting absolutely inundated with street shitting psychopath drug addicts precisely because the local lefty governments spend so much money on them. San Francisco spends $250 Million in taxpayer funds on their homeless problem every single year. And it's only getting worse precisely because they're handing out these services, free money, free tents, free blankets, etc.

These hollywood fruitcakes think that if we simply had Universal Basic Income we'd all be happy. No. Even more people would devolve into street shitting addicts. Cause why not.

In your average West Coast city the street shitting homeless addicts have far and away more rights than the citizens do. The police are literally not allowed to do anything about them. Shoplifting, vandalism, jacking off in public, screaming at people all day every day.

Liberal progressives simply think we need to give them more money. More programs. Same old song.

>30
Still fertile.
Why would you want to get laid in Chinatown if you're married?
Also, stop smoking weed for your own sake.

I am pretty racist, but I love how batshit sisko is. He's the polar opposite of picard, so going from a stuffy, by-the-book diplomat to a crazy, constantly seething soldier is refreshing on rewatches.

you are 100% correct. its funny that liberal policies creates the kinds of conditions seen in the "Sanctuary District", of "Past Tense", yet Republicans get the blame. this is why DS9 is bluepilled brainwashing propaganda. It tries to poison the minds of people with their false revisionist narrative.

>Kirk was always on the frontier
>never had to act like a nigger whining about Earth
makes you think

Why did she leave?

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underrated

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This thread sucks.

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>non /trek/ version

Big Daddy Vee gonna' be mad.

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STD THE MICHAEL BURHAM ADVENTURES OF MICHAEL BURHAM STARRING MICHAEL BURNHAM AS MICHAEL BURNHAM SLAY QUEEN CAPTAIN OF THE MICHAEL BURNHAM

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>racemixer
>best friend's a turban winder
>turns down QT bajoran and cardy pussy even though his wife is a naggy gook

gonna be an unequivocal YIKESOLA from me!

At least I'm not 30 and past my prime.

There's nothing wrong with killing every spoonhead out there.

>complaining about a man being loyal to his wife
The absolute STATE of modern trek fans.

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Archer was a worthless pussy

I don't even know what the core values of your average lefty even are these days.

It's all devolved into identity politics. Anything to do with the gay agenda is good. Anything to do with minorities is good. Anything that hurts feelings is bad. Anything that involves individual responsibility is bad. Anything to do with white people is bad. More money for dem programs. But what else? I don't think lefties even know where they stand anymore.

All they do is get hysterical and talk about fascism and nazis and shutting people down.

DS9 fans hate everything that is pure and nice because they are edgy nihilist with an ego complex.

I dont know about your average lefty, but I want working-class solidarity and globalization.

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contract negotiations against a part on some other show

Globalisation just means no one can save you from tyranny.

>I want workers to have more rights
>I also want my job outsourced to the turd world

Explain

She wants to be as poor as people in the third world whilst living in a more expensive part of the world.

I wish I could like archer, but he just always comes off as really whiny and a lot more of a clumsy idiot who bungles every encounter more than the writing demands. I like bakula, but I don't think I would have casted him as archer, or at least I would have rewritten the character for him.

It smokes pot all day while listening to the bad type of Black music. It's not sentient.

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Hey SFDebris.

and Archer killed the symbiote

Do you think Miles of Brian was fated to have such a shitty life, or it was just something that kind a happenedto him

>supporting workers rights means you can't support the rights of workers in another nation
how retarded is the alt-right, exactly?

You asked for this when you supported DSNIgger and Basedager. This is the all inclusive "le space communists xD" audience that the modern show runners wanted to appeal to.

is miles going to be okay?

Who? Is it possible to post in these threads without invoking someone not in the conversation?

well you have to stage a terrorist attack to get people to want the war so that is still deception
the oil is only the goal

In the European and Asian dubs of star trek tng and ds9 miles O'Brien was renamed kilometers o'brien

>this is your brain on /pol/
imagine not bringing up the real people behind the wars

cute

>working-class solidarity and globalization.
nigga you dumb
you also probably never worked in your life or are a part of the working class

You too

This thread is so bad.

dont be a fucking idiot
this is literally what they believe and i have heard people say that with a straight face

you are racist

jessie have a boner

She's a woman, of course she hasn't worked.

>feel constantly persecuted among others races
>yet keep betraying one camp to another
>control large part of the alpha quadrant with a fair but iron fist through others races. Use drug addicted troops breed are mercenaries.
>end game is the control of the whole univers.
>have individualities but by some magic can form a *great link* when together.

Were the shape shifters jews ?

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Allen Ginsberg is my favorite Beat poet

>Cuckservatives hijack yet another thread to whine about lefties
Why do I keep coming to this fucking site

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It's the leftist that ruined trek threads with their VOY and DS9 worship and tripfaggotry

The whole thread got ruined because everyone decided to respond to some /pol/tard's stale pasta that he's been spamming on and off since the DS9 documentary came out

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no the ferengi and bajorans are jews
bajorans even have muh 6 milion dead during the occupation

>Cuck
The left can't even make up their own insults...

Why aren't you conservative?

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Taken any poz loads lately?

Thread got ruined when it turned into the usual DS9 circlejerk with "enlightened" retards obsessing over a tripfag.

Yea Forums is completely run over by discord trannies.

DS9 was truly ahead of its time

The left/right dichotomy is so fucking fabricated and boring why do you even engage in this larping cultural warfare?

Shatners brand of conservatism is literally cuckservatism. He believes in multiculturalism and homofaggotry hes basically a libtard in based clothing

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>left/right
I said conservative, nothing to do with left/right.
In the UK the Labour party USED to be left learning conservatives.
That's practically far right when it comes to actors.

Bajorans are Frenchs it's obvious.

Only 50 years ago whites had a 90% majority in this country. We are now at 56%. This fight isn't manufactured it is a fight for my races survival.

Just because he was a pedo and NAMBLA supporter doesn't mean he wasn't a damn good poet and writer

Too bad he died before Yea Forums

>muh culture war
Can you take this shit anywhere else? Adults want to talk about Star Trek

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How about we talk about the fact that the Federation is a totalitarian state with a KGB equivalent?

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We are talking about trek it's the DS9 and voy cucks that want to bitch about their right wing boogeyman and worship tripfags. If youd just ignore them and stop replying to their bait maybe they'll get bored and leave

You're assuming your side cares about you. They may if you're rich enough, but they most likely despise you and enjoy using your legitimate passion to manipulate you. Just saying, Its stupid having two perpetual sides constantly being fabricated opposites.

Nice thinly veiled anarcho communist messaging shill. We arent on the same side, fuck off.

Section 31 is great and a rational thing to have in such a universe honestly Bashir should stop being a little bitch

In the S8 Synopsis outlined in the DS9 doc its Bashir who is the new leader of S31 because he realizes they were right all along. It's the closest thing the doc gets to redpilled except for the fact hes painted as the villain for doing this.

Pretty much this. Not having some kind of intelligence agency would just be stupid.
The handler they sent to recruit Bashir was embarrassingly bad at his job and there's no way someone like him would have gotten a gig as a talent scout

Accepting the realities of human nature is thoughtcrime

Moron, Section 31 is a separate agency from Starfleet Intelligence.

What'd you expect from a DS9 loving tripfag

*teleports across the galaxy on a mostly empty 2 litre bottle of shroom dust*

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>Bashir the new leader of S31
i did not know but honestly i dont like this
sure he is a little bitch but to expect him to do a 180 and be okay with S31 ends justify the means methods
that seems a bit out of character

that's just what they want you to think, dumb pakled

I patiently wait for you to explain to me that "micks aren't white" or something like that.

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They aren't. We oppressed them and treated them like niggers for longer than we've oppressed niggers. They were literally the niggers before niggers were niggers. But they're useful idiots who have latched on to white supremacy out of desperate need to fit in with whites and feel superior to nonwhites, when really they have nothing to do with us or our achievements and should all honestly be our enemy. To this day they are STILL butthurt at their Anglo masters

The average Irish IQ went down by 10 points due to the potato famine.
They're literally white niggers.

and thanks to this now we have Section 31 ships in STD and everyone knowing about them

All this because we have to reduce everything to just a pale imitation of reality.

>le socioeconomic factors

No. They were always low IQ it's in their dirty potatonigger genetics. If they weren't we wouldnt have oppressed then and continue to oppress them

Why does a show that takes place on a single ship with a completely static and unchanging crew only focus on a half dozen officers?

/pol/ be gone

They were dumber than anglos before the famine but they became niggers after it.

Look pretty white to me.

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Who is the Lt. Dan of Star Trek?
Hard Mode: No Pike

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Obviously nog

Who would win in a fight taurik and nick locarno or vorik and tom paris?

Who's the Izzy of Star Trek?

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Picard

Happy 83rd birthday to James Darren, born june 8th, 1936

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>boyfriend gets stolen by best friend
>finds out they're getting married
>has to boldly get the fuck across town to break them up
I'm looking for a revenge story I guess

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>You need DS9 fans to keep Trek discussion alive.
How arrogant are stationfags? Christ, lad...

The Lower Decks is one of my favorite TNG episodes because of this. It would have been cool if it came up earlier in the show's run so they could have an episode for them each season or something.

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Hey you thread deleting fuck. Shouldn't you be getting ready for your weekly pegging session or did you finish early tonight so you could abuse your jannie privileges?

lmfao

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You don't know anything about history at all lol. The battle of tuetoberg forest is the first example i can think of where deception and shady tactics were prominently used.

I like this answer the best

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Felt her character wasn't getting enough screentime in the hugely expanding cast of characters, wasn't paid enough, so she decided she asked to have less screentime in order to do two shows at once. She was supposedly getting pressured to sign up for another season, and also got into an argument with a producer where sexist remarks were supposedly thrown at her. However, we don't know the producers side of the story since they didn't interview them about it. The show she ended up leave DS9 for was.... Becker where she played a chain smoking waitress or something (forgive me about Becker details I don't really remember the show). I don't agree with her decision I think she regrets doing it. Most of the cast during the DS9 documentary were squirmish and were visibly uncomfortably talking about her leaving and didn't really want to take sides. The actor who played Worf said only those involved will ever know the truth and then they cut away to something else in the doc.

My main issue with the Doc is they spent TOO MUCH time talking about politics, sexual identity, and far too little time talking about making the show. All I wanted was a comfy behind the scenes look about how the show was made and the actors behind it, but they turned into this self-congratulatory anti-trump, pro-sexual identity, Sisko is black, and Garak was gay and wanted to bang Bashir documentary. I mean how do you mess this up?

The nice part tho was that they remastered about 10 to 20 minutes or so of footage and made it into HD. Sacrifice of Angels and other battle scenes. Plus the writers talked about what they would do if they got the green light to do an animated DS9 season 8. But these two things took about maybe 30 minutes out of the 3 hour doc.

That's on the 2019 Doco, not Deep Space Nine. All that shit is from today's culture and is not how they were back then. DS9 itself is pretty redpilled.

Right. It's just like JK Rowling.

Makes me worried about Star Trek: Picard though

Why are you replying to /pol/tard copypasta? Do you seriously think it's a battle that can be won?

>Felt her character wasn't getting enough screentime in the hugely expanding cast of characters, wasn't paid enough, so she decided she asked to have less screentime in order to do two shows at once. She was supposedly getting pressured to sign up for another season, and also got into an argument with a producer where sexist remarks were supposedly thrown at her. However, we don't know the producers side of the story since they didn't interview them about it. The show she ended up leave DS9 for was.... Becker where she played a chain smoking waitress or something (forgive me about Becker details I don't really remember the show). I don't agree with her decision I think she regrets doing it. Most of the cast during the DS9 documentary were squirmish and were visibly uncomfortably talking about her leaving and didn't really want to take sides. The actor who played Worf said only those involved will ever know the truth and then they cut away to something else in the doc.

Ultimately, it was her decision to leave. Every interview I see where it comes up, she sounds extremely REGRETFUL and upset at leaving DS9 75% of the way through the show. I think she made a mistake. Don't let one sexist remark emotionally tilt you into making a poor business decision for your future. Going from Deep Space Nine to BECKER was a HUGE downgrade for her career. And I think she knows it.

Did you even see the Doc? It was really disappointing considering what they could have done with 3.5 hours of runtime.

I saw it. It was pretty fun. Shame about Nog though.

And shame that you think a documentary about Star Trek is perpetrating white genocide.

Good. The chick who replaced her was much, much hotter.

I'm not the user you are talking to. So No comment about white Genocide or whatever. I will say the Trump thing was really out of place.

I thought it could have been better. The Doc felt like a lot of fluff.

I enjoy the DS9 DVD Special Features - Behind the Scenes making of videos (the ones attached to each season of the DVD release) a lot more

Whites are being subtly genocided, not exactly news.

I'm Asian and Japan and China do not tolerate the shit you have in your country

Most Asian cultures don't tolerate. You either adapt to our way of life or get out. We prefer to keep our tradition alive.

Yeah you're lucky, Jews don't look Asian so they can't blend in amongst you and work their magic and nepotism.
Pretending to be white one minute and then admitting to be Jewish when amongst their kind or when they want to be anti-white.

incels and women ruin everything

no, because if you think about it logically then the romulan would realize once he found out it was a fake that he was being setup. He would not confront sisko and say its a fake that would be showing his hand and romulans are top tier poker players. They only go all in if they have something to gain.

>Most Asian cultures don't tolerate. You either adapt to our way of life or get out. We prefer to keep our tradition alive.
So why are you always losing out to the west in technology, science, cultural proliferation and war? Asia has always been inferior.

Of course they were Jews, they were Zionist Jews specifically. Their methods were almost exactly the same as them in terms of manipulating races against one another.

Dude, what episode is this shot from? It looks shopped.

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wrong

Bajorans actually died though.

>non-sentient canon fodder were neutralized
FTFY

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But they also:
12. Dedicated time to showcasing that fascists and nationalists and capitalists and other people with radically different ideologies from the Lib-approved list aren't pure evil poison-breathing abominations and people too capable of being noble, compassionate, and engaging.

Watchin star trek for the first time ever and I have a quick question. How to I come to own anything in that universe? Like say I want a nice piece of land or something a replicator cant make like a historical artifact how do I obtain it? Also if I wanted a space ship of my own do I just walk to the nearest industrial replicator and order one?

mo' like 'VeDICK Bareil' xD

You're right imagine how far Asia would be if we focused all of our resources on gender studies

>Also if I wanted a space ship of my own do I just walk to the nearest industrial replicator and order one?
Sure, but you probably won't get weapons to go with it.

Ya but im an American.

>you probably won't get weapons to go with it.
Even ships that are never meant to go into combat have a basic phaser array for destroying space debris, which could be used to effortlessly slice a skyscraper in two.

>Ya but im an American.
OH NONO NOOOOO

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it doesnt make sense and the economics of the ST universe is full of contradictions from episode to episode and trying to make sense of it will be pointless and futile, not even the writers themselves could tell you the answer. basically just turn off your brain bro

HEY YO WHERE B-GURL @?!

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in some pictures she has the wart and in others she doesnt. what gives?

fug wrong link
The nerds in /tg/'s /stg/ probably have an answer:

so many of DS9's plot elements hinge on genocide:
Gamma Quadrant races attempted to destroy the Founders/Changelings
the Founders/Changelings only created the Dominion to insulate themselves from ever being threatened again
now their policy of continual territorial expansion guarantees periodic genocides of species that refuse to join the Dominion
a joint Cardassian/Romulan intelligence operation attempts to destroy the home planet of the Founders/Changelings - attempting genocide
once the Dominion has a foothold in the Alpha Quadrant, they recognize that if they succeed there militarily, that the greatest likelihood of any future rebellion will begin on Earth, so they intend to pre-emptively kill all its inhabitants in order to avoid that
what I appreciate about how the show treats genocide is that it seems to get the justifications of its (attempted) perpetrators correctly: that even though it constitutes an immense act of aggression and total war, it's paradoxically always couched in defensive terms.

Weak retort in the face of simple fact.

>what is makeup and differing photo quality

Wtf makeup can hide that massive growth?

Thread is shit post cute Vulcan girls.

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this whole franchise make me feel like an asshole for being a publican

yes good goy i see the programming has worked well on you

She photoshops them out. She could easily get them removed, but I also say the same thing about Tilly on STD.

how the FUCK does a species evolve to reproduce by taking dead people and reanimating them

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>Watchin star trek for the first time ever and I have a quick question. How to I come to own anything in that universe? Like say I want a nice piece of land or something a replicator cant make like a historical artifact how do I obtain it? Also if I wanted a space ship of my own do I just walk to the nearest industrial replicator and order one?

If you are part of the Federation (on one of the good planets) you will be provided a basic standard of living. Food, shelter, and services will be provided.

But if you want something more like a big ship (not a shuttle), those probably require you to get a job like joining the Starfleet (like non-military role like a transport captain) or some private organization where you sign a contract. Starfleet seems to deal in trade of goods (not money), so if you had resources (like something valuable like Dilithium), you could probably trade goods for a private, or decommissioned ship. If you don't like the way Starfleet works, you could venture out and make deals with other species. Like take a loan own from the Ferengi to buy a second-hand or third-hand ship and make payments. or work your way up on a ship and eventually become captain. You could also Salvage a ship and fix it up. You could also become a mercenary. It really comes down to resources that you are able to acquire and protect. Not every species uses money (the Ferengi do). But trade in resources and rare technology is universal

The big huge modern military vessels like the Enterprise, Romulan Warbird, etc are exclusively owned by their respective Galactic governments. Though you MIGHT be able to find an old outdated warship as salvage somewhere.

So the federation has regressed to a barter based economy? If I have a family heirloom say a statue thats is valuable I have to trade it to someone who wants it and so on and on till I get something that can get me a ship? Why they fuck cant I sell it for credits. Seems dumb but then again the more I think about star trek the more holes pop up. What eves.

because you're here forever user there is no escaping the blackhole of shit that is 4channel

no user bad

Lots of bad decisions with genetics. Arguably, it's devolution.

This poster is both based and redpilled.
May the Pah-Wraiths shine upon you.

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Hard to say. ST isn't consistent with regards to if the Federation uses money. Because of it being a multi-solar system civilization, most Federation planets have eliminated basic hunger and homelessness. Basic medical care is provided if you are a citizen. Providing those basic services literally isn't a drain of their economy. It's an afterthought at best. They have bigger fish to worry about (like protecting their space territory)

Occasionally sometimes you hear about Federation credits, or some alien currency being thrown about depending on the show. But what seems to trump everything though is resources. The Federation, Klingons, and other species fight over planets and space sectors depending on resources.

My Best guess is this: if there are Federation credits ....they only take you so far on a Federation planet. But are useless outside of the Federation. Your job pays you in credits. You might be able to use them to get non-replicatible specialty food, drink, entertainment, or maybe a specific area of land or an apartment/house if you save up your credits depending on your job.

But to purchase the big ticket items (like a big ship), you need something more. Credits are not a enough. Like resources (rare minerals, technology, etc) or an organization/rich family backing you. Or maybe an absolute shitton of credits (if the seller accepts it) and you want to purchase it by yourself.

God damn, that's funny.

>cardie btfo list:
>dominion
>the federation
>the romulans
>the klingons
>the mirror universe
>the bajorans
>the bajorans (again)
>the tribbles
>species 8472
>the borg
>the (((Ferengi Alliance)))
>the tholian assembly
>the breen
>the prophets
>the emissary
>shapeshifting soup
>21st century earth
>a single weyoun
yeah they "literally" did "nothing" wrong

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>My Best guess is this: if there are Federation credits ....they only take you so far on a Federation planet. But are useless outside of the Federation. Your job pays you in credits. You might be able to use them to get non-replicatible specialty food, drink, entertainment, or maybe a specific area of land or an apartment/house if you save up your credits depending on your job.
This is probably the most feasible answer. Each Space Empire has their own system of credits provided to the citizens. And are probably useless outside of their respective Space Empires. You are given basic services. You aren't gonna starve, get sick, or be homeless. But if you want to accomplish something like acquiring stuff that can't be replicated on your home replicator then you are going to have to get some form of job.

Why is it snidely brought up more then once they dont use money in the future at least in the federation? Poor show planning? If all it was is basic needs are fufilled by the state cause replicators are BS whats the deal with those on that note does the state give me one? What can it make? I know it has limits but what are they? Can I make firearms from one? Is it kinnda like a printer were if it has the data for something it can make it? If so then does that mean firearms and bombs are easy for a civy to get in that reality since there no way they can hold back the plans information on that stuff. I think all my issues with this would had been quited if the there was an explanation line that was basically
>The state supplies basic necessities but luxury goods and property and the like require credits which require a service to the state
Guess that sounds a bit commie for a show of this age.

There probably are credits but are only useful within the Federation.

Trade between Galactic Civilizations seems to be done in resources or goods that cannot be replicated.

Also you cannot just replicate anything. The Federation restricts replicators from replicating anything harmful like weapons.

From what we've seen, firearms, or at least any firearms up to and encompassing things more modern than our tech are restriction-less. in DS9, there was a gun collector who had this weapon capable of teleporting bullets, and nobody batted an eye until said gun was used to kill a person.

>The Federation restricts replicators from replicating anything harmful like weapons.
Citation needed.

>They blame the man not the tool in star trek
What a time to be alive indeed.

>whats the deal with those on that note does the state give me one?
Replicators are probably everywhere, and probably have different levels. Think of them like a microwave or a refrigerator. Your apartment probably comes with one.

>Can I make firearms from one?
Ordinary civilians can't replicate weapons. This was made in clear in one trek episode. There are heavy restrictions on replicators. You have to have special access for weapons, and probably a higher level premium replicator to do it. Your home replicator where you make your food probably can't even if you had the clearance.

Though you could probably acquire weapons elsewhere. They seem to be somewhat obtainable in the Trek universe. Black market or certain merchants, etc.

>Guess that sounds a bit commie for a show of this age.
Your thinking is too low level. Stop thinking of it in terms of a too low level savage from a non-space society. In the future, they are so advanced tech wise, providing food and drink and medicine isn't anything to them. Just like starting a fire isn't anything to us with modern tech. We can do that easily. Just because we can... doesn't mean we have people burning entire cities to the ground. Our society prevents that (for the most part)

Let's say I gave you a "food and drink-only" replicator right now. Wtf you gonna do? Sit at home eating non-stop everyday until you get fat and sick? Once that novelty wears off, (and you've gone through the entire replicator menu), you gotta DO something else with your life still. Shit -- some people complain that replicated food doesn't taste as good as homemade food and become cooks (this is a running joke in Trek that replicated food tastes off compared to "real" food). We live in a society, and so do those people in the future.

i like you user

What I meant was my explanation being a better all encompassing explanation would had sounded like the show was encompassing communist values. For a show that started in the 60s that may had raised some eyebrows or not im not that old. And for an example of ambition in a post scarcity society you could even look at me. If I had not worry about food and bills and the likes ide like nothing more then collect historical artifacts and hunt a large plot of land in the mid west. Amusingly ide be a drain on a star trek society since I would be acquiring artifacts for myself and giving nothing back to the world as I spent my time hunting. Guess it is kind of I fun idea to think of what I would have to do in a star trek society to get what I want. In this society its called get alot of money.

Rent-free, baybeeee.

i just want to listen to garak's stories for hours. if (((they))) ever make a DS9-era movie, i hope they kill off garak so he isnt insulted. you fucking know theyd make him a little bitch

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>tfw you realise O'Brien was bigoted to the point that he was the only member of the main cast of DS9 to drink coffee over raktajino

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>come home from long day saving the ship from blwoing up yet again because we have to use cardie tech
>step through space bedroom door
>wife made space gook food
>again
the man just wants a steak and potatoes. i dunno why people kept fucking with him.

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Filter all /pol/-related words and the site's fine. It's a long list, though.

>What's wrong, Miles? Why haven't you touched your gagh?

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god damn it, even when youre possessed your food is shit. fuck this, im playing darts

Why would you even come here if you have to filter and censor things? I think you would be better suited to reddit

>why aren't you conservative?
>bakula is a democrat and bill is just an old douchebag and has been since the 1970s
Okay, user.

Does Garak legit have super powers? He's got the skills for whatever the show needs him to do at the moment, but most importantly it never feels ridiculous for him to do. They walked that line just right with that character.

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>And for an example of ambition in a post scarcity society you could even look at me. If I had not worry about food and bills and the likes ide like nothing more then collect historical artifacts and hunt a large plot of land in the mid west. Amusingly ide be a drain on a star trek society since I would be acquiring artifacts for myself and giving nothing back to the world as I spent my time hunting. Guess it is kind of I fun idea to think of what I would have to do in a star trek society to get what I want. In this society its called get alot of money.

You probably could do that easier in the future than today. All young people in the Star Trek want to explore the universe. They hate the idea of staying on a single planet. I vaguely recall there was a Trek episode where it a family was split down the middle because the some of the children wanted to join Starfleet and explore the universe, but the parents wanted them to stay and manage their local family-owned farm or whatever. Starfleet seems to lure away all the young talent from every Federation planet.

So there is probably a lot more empty space in the mid-west in the future. Everyone is leaving to explore space. The only problem with your plan is that you would have to get a dayjob to earn enough credits to buy land in the midwest. So what would you do? You like artifacts. There's probably a demand for history professors. Ok now you have to study become one. You are an awesome student. Your professor wants to lead an archaeology expedition on the planet WhereTheFuckiSThis IV . It's 1 month away using a civilian transport on the edge of Federation Space. You discover an ancient civilization, but all you do is you want to go home and hunt. You get an award for your efforts and now Starfleet wants you to consult and join their science division to learn more about these artifacts. Shit -- their HQ is on Saturn. You just want to go home and hunt. But you need credits. Rinse and Repeat.

They're telling you something Archer!

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>Nygeans
Wew didn't pick up on that until now

i dont think keiko was ever unfaithful to him more than once

he's spy who lived for the spy game. his reason for living is to be a spy. he's been betrayed by everything he believed in and is rightfully disillusioned, but he genuinely has fun the entire time. i think the show made it a point that he's not a normal cardassian, in that his perspective is based on his own experiences rather than what his planet tells everyone.

he's a decent tragic character who is self aware.

MILA: Oh, when you were a small boy, I was worried about you. Always getting in trouble. So secretive, so full of deceit. Who would have thought those distasteful characteristics would be turned to virtues. More tea?
>GARAK: You're too kind.

he's just always been pretty rad

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But, you wouldn't be a drain, since a lot could be earned from the artifacts you dragged up: the Federation is all about knowledge, and trading even a massive amount of materials for a sliver of it is a huge net gain when materials become so cheap as to be nearly meaningless.

Well there's a lot of land to go around after world war 3. Most of the world was probably irradiated or just fucking overrun with wilderness. You see the kind of state humanity is in in First Contact and it's like a reset button on the world. Right after that the vulcans show up and a lot of humanities future was in the stars from that point on. The world worked to rebuild itself with the Vulcans help. That's not canon or anything but it's how it had to have gone down.

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