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/got/ general: The one true king is coming for them all edition
>The one true king is coming for them all
He is indeed.
Posting some concept arts used/unused for the show. Pic related is the battle of Meereen from S6
One of the proposed design for the Others/White walkers.
>Dany getting pregnant is such an obvious dropped plotline its maddening
Here is what I would do?
>got to kill her
>get her pregnant and thus can't think straight, has baby after the battle.
>bells surrender, but dany burns down the RED KEEP ONLY, killing a couple hundred civilians there.
>morally grey
>baby comes out
>Jon is morally conflicted
>Caesar like plot to kill Dany but everyone is carried out that makes more sense than just "lol stabbed" after she declares for world monarchy
>last wish of dany is for Jon to rule as reagent over their child
>final sense is king jon
Rate
>stands in front of dragon wight and screams
What did he mean by this?
*hits pipe*
I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than bending the knee to a Targaryen who claims to be the King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men. Honestly, think about it rationally. You're a Great Lord of a region, and you are making alliances, protecting, raising and rearing your kingdom for at least a thousand years solely so your money and food can go and to a foreign tyrant as tribute. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little kingdom- marrying off your daughters to minor lords, sending your sons and vassals to tourneys, making sure your men will have the means to survive a decades long winter, educating your sons to rule after you. All of it has one simple result: your kingdom is that more profitable for the crazy dragonlords who would rather fuck their own sisters than let you into their family.
Raised the perfect army? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a pitiful ironborn invasion of a kingdom you have no blood relation. They get to use your might without defending themselves. The Targaryen King gets the benefits of your military prowess and resilience that came from the way you raised your men. And that's just hoping you don't end up being forced to fight in a petty Targshit civil war over "who's blood is the most inbred."
As a man who bends the knee to Valyrians, you are LITERALLY dedicating your entire life to providing an army and food for an incest-spawned king who could go crazy and burn everyone to the ground at the drop of a hat. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck.
Think about it logically.
Another white walker design.
>EP6 in a nutshell
>What did he mean by this?
The writing is so bad this season it's not even funny
I seriously can't tell Viserion and Rhaegal from each other. Why were they so dark in the show? Also their secondary features like webbing or wing color were exactly the same
Battle of the bastards, with Wun Wun throwing peoples and horses around.
>go out of your way to cram Arya into everyone's storylines when it makes no sense
>End with "Arya died on her way back to her home planet"
Reminder that in the books they all breathe different colors of fire and are more distinguishable.
>King Jon
>Betray her for killing a few hundred civs
>Baby targ
Unironically worse than what we actually got.
They really lost all individuality once they stopped being babies
Drogon vs the scorpion from season 7
>EP6 in a nutshell
fuck, that looks kino
maybe just a little too ghoulish, but better than the ice zombies we got
The fall of the wall
That's a famous Chad posted on incel forums, Tyler Maher I think
But he's king / regent to rule till the child is old enough. He has NO choice. See it's pottery because it's the promise Ned got from his sister.
>“I hope Your Grace will pardon me. Your king is trapped. Death in four.”
>The prince stared at the playing board. “My dragon—”
>“—is too far away to save you. You should have moved her to the center of the battle.” >“But you said—”
>"I lied. Trust no one. And keep your dragon close.”
>Young Griff jerked to his feet and kicked over the board. Cyvasse pieces flew in all directions, bouncing and rolling across the deck of the Shy Maid. “Pick those up,” the boy commanded.
>He may well be a Targaryen after all. “If it please Your Grace.” Tyrion got down on his hands and knees and began to crawl about the deck, gathering up pieces.
This is your """"""""""king""""""""""
The drop in quality is fucking staggering. Seasons 6 and 7 were bad by the standards of 1-4 but still ok compared to most tv. Season 8 is terrible even compared to most other tv shows. They just stopped caring.
Not only will Stannis not burn Shireen in the books, Shireen is not going to die at all
Jaime Lannister charging Daenerys from S07
Does HBO expect me to care care about a prequel with the Night King when I know Arya just one shots him with a butter knife in the future like it's nothing?
>RAWWWWWWWW I'M A FUCKIN DRAGON
Blood and Fire user, it's in his blood, like that retarded Targ who died drinking wildfire to turn himself into a dragon
Daenerys arriving on Dragonstone from season 7 premiere.
Dragon Fire can't melt Stone Castles
>Shireen is not going to die at all
>she gets burned, but George's definition of "burn" to D&D was different.
Burning the greyscale
Yeah I don't care what Varys says about Aegon learning that ruling was his duty and that he worked with his hands or whatever, he's still a spoiled little cunt who's had the best army in Essos at his beck and call for as long as he's been alive.
Reminder that Aegon is a Targaryen
5-8 are all terrible television compared to other shows but they had good visuals and acting
>Incest-spawned king
Look who's talking
Why did they make Dragonstone so small in the show? It's basically a rock with a castle. Where are the farms and towns?
Dead Lannister soldiers after field of fire 2.0. This one kinda reminds me with that scene from LOTR Two Towers.
Damn, this explains why Dragonstone felt so weird to me in S7. It's supposed to have all these quays, which would suggest some sort of defense on the beaches, but it's just a fucking castle on a hill.
Yes, they're tone deaf corporate retards
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Actually the Golden Company hasn't done shit for him until he decides Tyrions idea is pretty cool and they all got sick of waiting for Illyrio's bullshit with Dany to pay off
>NOH
Oldtown concept art from season 6
I love Stannis but I also love the blackfyres. what do?
Dragonstone is basically a shithole user, it has no farms, it's a fucking volcano
'Hold the Door' from season 6 but much more chaotic.
>Reminder that Aegon is a Targaryen
I don't really care.
He's my second choice for king in the books behind Stannis, hope they team up.
>I love Stannis but I also love the blackfyres. what do?
See
name a more iconic trio
you mean blackfyre
>People unironically defend this season
The Night King and his good men to the rescue, well to the kill actually.
>Dragonstone is basically a shithole user, it has no farms
There has to be something there though. The books talk about "dragonseeds", all the bastards Targs had with the people in the local villages, and Nettles successfully tames a dragon by feeding it sheep from a farm. I'm not saying there should be cities, but the island shouldn't be uninhabited.
I can't.
That's all I have. Last one is the concept poster for Season 4, specifically S04E09.
Cersei was kept alive for like two seasons because D&D like the actress who played her. Reminder this is what happens in the books.
It's a shame because GoT has very well designed dragons/wyverns and they actually do a great job at portraying them as creatures that could have existed in real life. It's just that they all look the same.
All the dragonseeds come from Driftmark
Until the books actually released (lol), we can't say for sure. For all we know someone else might end up killing Cersei. Or maybe she somehow beat her prophecy only to die but some other way.
Thanks for sharing user, these are neat
hey remember when people though winds of winter would come up in 2016?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAA good times.
Disgusting
Guess Stannis finally took the peachpill
but davos is not old in the books
I refuse to believe Cersei has a "happy" ending.
The dwarf shrugged. “I know that she spent her childhood in exile, impoverished, living on dreams and schemes, running from one city to the next, always fearful, never safe, friendless but for a brother who was by all accounts half mad … a brother who sold her maidenhood to the Dothraki for the promise of an army. I know that somewhere out upon the grass her dragons hatched, and so did she. I know she is proud. How not? What else was left her but pride? I know she is strong. How not? The Dothraki despise weakness. If Daenerys had been weak, she would have perished with Viserys. I know she is fierce. Astapor, Yunkai, and Meereen are proof enough of that. She has crossed the grasslands and the red waste, survived assassins and conspiracies and fell sorceries, grieved for a brother and a husband and a son, trod the cities of the slavers to dust beneath her dainty sandaled feet. Now, how do you suppose this queen will react when you turn up with your begging bowl in hand and say, ‘Good morrow to you, Auntie. I am your nephew, Aegon, returned from the dead. I’ve been hiding on a poleboat all my life, but now I’ve washed the blue dye from my hair and I’d like a dragon, please … and oh, did I mention, my claim to the Iron Throne is stronger than your own?’ ”
Dany is going to kill that faggot fAegon
You are welcome.
Maybe.... just MAYBE, it will be released next year (lol). Please release it next year George and maybe ADOS in five or six years
Well there was that vision in the house of the undying with the Dragon banner
>Joffrey of the House Baratheon
>Virtually all troops in King's Landing throughout the show are Lannisters'
Really makes you think.
Why didn't anyone in the room speak up against D&D? Like I'm talking about the writers, not the actors. There's a ton of inconsistencies and fallacious thoughts planted into the characters heads that don't seem to make any sense last season given other information that was presented to the audience.
Basically it's a lot of "Dany forgot about the Iron Fleet" moments.
Cersei is utterly convinced Tyrion is the Valonqar, the whole point is that she doesn't suspect Jaime at all.
They probably did, but at the end of the day they're in charge and can do what the fuck they want, it's not like striking is a realistic option
Some of the biggest problems with this season stem from a script that was never properly edited. Nobody spoke up because the people who would have done so were filtered out years ago.
user... they are the writers of the last four episodes. Also the director of the last one.
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That map looks pretty generic and derivative, if I'm being honest.
Pic related.
I miss King Joffrey bros. He is a total cunt, but he is so fun to watch.
>Why didn't anyone in the room speak up against D&D? Like I'm talking about the writers, not the actors
en.wikipedia.org
>Season 8 Episode 3: Written by David Benioff & D.B. Weiss
>Season 8 Episode 4: Written by David Benioff & D.B. Weiss
>Season 8 Episode 5: Written by David Benioff & D.B. Weiss
>Season 8 Episode 6: Written by David Benioff & D.B. Weiss
holy fuck who made this shit map?
>They claim their labors are to build a heaven, yet their heaven is populated with horrors. Perhaps the world is not made. Perhaps nothing is made. A clock without a craftsman. It's too late. Always has been, always will be...too late.
fuck i'm not a husbandofag but he's so cute
I was just heading to Target to get some Jon collectibles before all GoT merchandise is removed from stores due to the masses being done with the franchise and a new song from the formerly famous band Blink 182 came on the radio, I think it was called “Bang Bang on my Youth.” Anyway it had me thinking about how when that band was famous life around here was so much better (I won’t go into reasons why because I don’t want to derail this discussion) and it had me thinking really positive about the ending of the show. It must be so great to be able to be like Jon and just say “fuck society, fuck trying to please Greyworm-like people” and just taking off with like minded and appearing people and leaving everyone else to stay in this shithole and create a new life in a place where people could be happy in a cold environment where Greyworm-like people won’t want to follow. Now I’m really happy with the ending and feeling good. Anyone else feeling positive about Jon’s ending?
>Ser Ilyn, bring me his head!
>mfw cucked by incest baby
>murdered his waifu
No
>cucked by the most CHAD king of the seven kingdoms
You can tell they gave up walking on egg shells around D&D and just shut their mouths. Look how much better with lore Cogman’s episodes are than D&D, you can tell he just decided to focus on his own and let them shit the bed on their episodes.
The Jonas brother fears the lion
>letting your woman murder your family
>settling down with a woman who can’t bare children
He made absolutely the right call. Also she wasn’t his waifu, even the most detached autist can tell he had way more love for Ygritte. He clearly never really liked Dany, she just put out and it was like fucking a celebrity.
It's just silly how the showrunners ended up not 'getting'/understand what their own show is all about.
I can't entirely blame them, even the supposed fans forgot what the show was about and instead started making Dany out to be Jesus with a vagina
In that case it's more about misdirection. Looking back Daenerys is always a 'bit' ruthless. Especially in season 4 & 5. But her turn to evil is too abrupt. I think at the end of the day it's still on D&D.
It’s beyond not getting it, people have long pointed out for example they never got Stannis and they completely misinterpreted a character they claim to think is great like Renly. They didn’t just not “get” their own show, they didn’t even remember shit that they put in the show that they worked on. Even episodes where they wrote the script and were on set making decisions they don’t seem to remember any details of in the after episode interviews and recall shit all wrong. They remind me of how difficult it is for addicts to remember shit and fuck up their jobs.
They never did get the show, they've been fucking it up since season 2
The guy who played the Comedian would have been an excellent Bobby B
What did they mean by this?
God
>Who designed this, an alien?
Every time.
Enough with this shit meme.
based john cena
>Area in the middle of England
>Is called the Midlands
Just fucking pathetic
They had their endgame discussion with GRRM after season three. After the Red Wedding all they wanted to adapt was Jon’s parentage reveal which hasn’t happened in the books so that’s why things start to get rushed and become fan fiction after that as they were doing only what they wanted. So after that discussion GRRM tells them Dany will end up basically as a villain so they started doing that to her in seasons four and five. However this was when the show exploded in popularity but also got in internet trouble due to Sansa rape so they had to go feminist in season six and make Dany benevolent again, or at least more justified like her attack on the Harpies. So her gradual progression towards madness/cruelty/not giving a fuck, whatever GRRM means it to be, was completely derailed.
They were just doing their jobs and criticizing the writing wasn't part of their job, that goes for everyone involved, it's been that way for years
>they didn’t even remember shit that they put in the show that they worked on
Yeah, what's up with that? Even at it's worse season 5-7 still remember some basic internal rules and character developments from the previous seasons. S8 just forget the whole thing. I doubt if this whole thing is unintentional.
Jobs season six Ned-style outfit is so much better than his season seven and eight Robb-style outfit
>Why didn't anyone in the room speak up against D&D?
D&D are the mad kings of the small council.
>North Sea
>South China Sea
>East China Sea
>Rocky Mountains (are there mountains that aren't made of rock? duh)
Names are dumb too.
>Even at it's worse season 5-7 still remember some basic internal rules and character developments from the previous seasons.
what internal rules, exactly? i feel everything was broken by the time of season 6
>Green-land
>Ice-land
This shit is hack-tier
They gave up on any internal rules when the epic sand sneks murdered their cousin and uncle
>green-land is actually icy
>ice-land is actually green
really subverted my expectations
Maybe he wants to better emulate being King in the North 2.0?
Holy shit...
>The mad king started out fine but slowly shows signs of delusion of grandeur
>At some point he went completely nuts, beyond saving
>Completely ignore the council and advise of his wise friend
>Said wise friend left the mad king
>Without the wise advisor the mad king's madness went completely unchecked and utterly ruins the realm
Where is the kingslayer when you need him? Or just new showrunners holy shit....
There was a bunch of stuff before season eight. The famous “Stannis was burning people the first time we saw him” false claim. Season six when Theon doesn’t tell Tyrion he’s totally wrong about who started with the insults when they first met in season one. Lots of shit like that. But yeah season 8 is surely the worst with it, like forgetting Aeron Greyjoy was in the show so not only is Euron’s line about the last Greyjoy with balls not true but also leaves a gaping plot hole as with no Victarion that means both of Aeron’s brothers were the previous kings and therefore he should be a huge threat to Yara’s stability of the Iron Islands. But D&D just forgot she mentioned that she neeeded to kill two uncles in season six.
>New area added
>Literally just called "the new world"
>One of the starting zones is called "Newfoundland
The devs are such hacks, holy shit.
>Where is the kingslayer when you need him?
>season 4 ends
>the actor who plays varys stands up at a meeting
>"for for the good of the realm"
>pulls out a knife
>Conleth what are you doing with that knife? We are having a team meeting here? - D&D
>Ire-land
Might as well call it Angry Town. Awful
I get why he had a costume like Robb’s it just didn’t look good. Robb’s was way better, Jon’s version was really half assed and didn’t have all of the armor. At least the season six one looked good.
Yeah, their treatment with Stannis is awful. I am not even a big fan of him, but it's just petty how they made a flawed fictional character into a complete villain. Where is the grey morality & nuances? I thought that's what make this series fun in the first place. Suddenly we are divided into camp good guys (Starks & Targs) and camp bad guys (Lannisters & White walkers) like some generic fantasy shit this story is trying to deconstruct.
>Play Spain main
>Get New World spawn option
>New span literally called New Spain
Just fucking pathetic
No they don't. Dragonstone has people, villages and animals. The peasants there freely let the Targaryens fuck them seeing them as gods. Island is big and has animals enough to sustain three wild dragons and kids they have
>For the show
Internal rules aren't the same thing as following the books, brainlet. The exact moment it broke internal rules was bringing back Jon. Death became pointless. You could excuse Berric and the Mountain because they are tertiary characters, but Jon reviving took all the bite out of losing main characters. And then they did nothing whatsoever with it so it was never even earned. He just failed a lot afterwards. BotB, BoW, and blindly following Psycho Dragon. If they were ever going to have a satisfying ending, Jon should have stayed dead. Same goes with Martin. Mark my words, if he does the same thing the ending will be shit to the books too.
sansa is like 13 or 14 at that time. they made Ned younger but Salsa loooks like she is a used up 25 yo.
No user, every single dragonseed from the Dance came from Driftmark, Dragonstone is a barren wasteland with some shepards and a couple of fishing villages
It's not about following the books though, they established kinslaying as a bad bad when Robb killed a barely related Karstark and lost all their support, suddenly we have bastard born women killing rightful rules and no one in Dorne even gives a shit
>New toponyms sound kinda stupid, like, what the hell is "big river" or "village"?
>Let's leave it untranslated
>Genius
>Here your Mississippi and Canada, crybaby
Varys coughing and "kinda forgot" are the only good things to come out of season 8.
To be honest, I never really cared about Game of Thrones.
Dany was right, Seven Kingdoms is not enough.
They decided to write for the lowest common denominator. They thought it had to be medieval Avengers to get more popular even though it’s popularity was growing just fine and their changes only made people like it less. Even middle age women I work with were bashing season seven and only watched 8 to see how it ended.
>Dany season 6
>I will leave Meereen to your regency Daario until they can find new leaders
>Dany season 8
>NOBODY GETS TO CHOOSE, I AM THE ABSOLUTE MONARCH OF THE PLANET
Is there anything etc.
Are you guys looking forward to the Blood Moon prequel that's airing in December?
And Danyfags getting butthurt. I know it’s petty but it was fun to me.
That’s really based, user
>KUH KUH KUH KUH KUH
>SMASH THE SCRIPT
>KUH KUH KUH KUH KUH
>Keep referencing "Breaking the Wheel"
>Next king of Westeros sits in a wheelchair all day
BRAVO DABID
She only believes in freedom for non-whites, I thought this was clear to everyone by now.
Coughposting was pretty fun while it lasted
>Dany Season 7
>I hope I deserve it
>Dany Season 8
>I KNOW WHAT'S GOOD
>while it lasted
>implying it ever ended
Even Robert laments about that though. He won the kingdom but it seems like army of Storm's End stayed home.
My reaction watching this scene
Why was yara given free reign then
Previous seasons don't matter, the writers told us so directly.
No it fucking isn't barren. That shit has people. Only some of the seeds came from Driftmark and were if Velaryon stick
Reminder we had no idea thought the show what Dany's religious beliefs where.
This is a huge thing to ignore as religion is the most important thing to people in the middle ages.
What I want to know is where did she come from? There is a fucking army of zombies blocking her?
>Dany 5 minutes before
>Gives Jon a death stare for betraying her or some shit
>Dany 5 minutes later
>Runs back into Jon’s arms
Did anyone even double check this shit
>Why was yara given free reign then
This is why Dany's turn into full blown "nobody gets to choose" absolute universal monarch makes no fucking sense. It's complete a 100% degree turn on her character.
She would have let Dorne, North, and the Iron Islands go if she sat on the throne realistically.
Figure it out for yourself
Someone post that image, I need it.
Dany is ableist. And yet the snowflakes still bitch about Bran being a white man. FUCK SNOWFLAKES
>Yeah well Dany kind of forgot about the last few seasons
>and Varys kind of forgot about how he promised Dany he'd call her out if he thought she was heading down the path of her father rather than straight up depose her
>oh and Dany kind of forgot that Varys promised to do that so it made his betrayal even less of a bombshell
>Dany 5 minutes before
>guards surrounding her
>Dany 5 minutes later
>guards are all magically gone
Do we get much of a sense of them in the books, either? At the age of 13 she's brutally raped by a 30-year old man to the point that it breaks her mentally and she starts believing in the Dothraki "stallion that mounts the world" prophecy. Then after her dragons are born her "religious" worldview revolves around her being the notion of her being the mother of dragons.
If Danaerys has any real religious viewpoint, then either she is:
>the mother of God
or
>the mother of Gods
>Gendry rivers
Are you retarded? Do you remember that scene at all? They laugh about how Theon, a white man, isn’t fit to lead and then shit on Yara’s uncles (yes two) who don’t belive a woman should lead. Dany gave it to her specifically so no white men could have it. How can you not even pic up on D&D’s basic themes?
there will be an ice dragon in the books lads
i can feel it
This, she doesn't have any. I don't even recall her thinking about the gods in anything but the most dismissive terms, if at all. She doesn't blame some nebulous other for her failures or thank them for her victories, it's all her and the people around her.
>Do we get much of a sense of them in the books, either?
Based off what I've looked up her brother, gave her some vague teachings in the Faith of the Seven. And some Dothraki religion mixed as well.
Someone who doesn't believe in the Faith of the Seven can't sit on the Iron throne, that's just simply the reality of Westeros, so we'll see in the books.
>Gendry Waters
>Only some of the seeds came from Driftmark
Dragonstone itself is basically empty, it has a several small islands around it where the all of 2 non-Driftmark dragonseeds presumably came from
Yes, but it won't be zombified version of one of Dany's.
I really hope not. The White Walkers would never have been a problem in the show universe if Dany never arrived. She basically depopulated the North.
Yara is a good choice for a Queen was picked as the heir making her the rightful queen.
*COUGH* Watch it Tyrion *WHEEZES*
And yet in the show they put Bran there
ITT: We post the EXACT moment the show died for you.
Thanks user.
One way or another I think the white walkers are getting their dragons. Either Euron is truly an agent of chaosh sent by the great others, magic horn, ice dragons or heat seeking spears. The wall is 100% going to be destroyed.
And that's a good thing!
Ugh....
I think the girls are all cute, but those are some of the worse dialogues ever.
Worse one will always be this though
>Someone who doesn't believe in the Faith of the Seven can't sit on the Iron throne, that's just simply the reality of Westeros
Well any monarch can fake believing in the Faith. Aegon the Conqueror did exactly that.
>And yet in the show they put Bran there
Bran's mother followed the Faith, he could easily pretend to do the same. Remember, Ned went so far as to built a sept in Winterfell specifically for Catelyn to worship in her own way, it wouldn't be a big leap to suggest her children follow her religion.
>BBBBBLLLLAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH
Gee Aegon, how come the Faith lets you have TWO wives
The show died with him.
Bran is the most old-god aligned Stark kiddo except for Jon, though. Arya is a mini nihilist, Sansa is the only one who keeps the Seven and even she worships the Old Gods as well
>that awful choreography
>Jerome and Nikolaj having to restrain themselves really badly just to make them look equal in fighting
>that utter lack of tension in anything
>that stupid fucking flip one does getting back up probably thinking they look cool
>the young sand snake hovering around with two giant plastic toy daggers
based
Please don't mention this scene ever again, it hurts to remember
>presumably
No, they came from Dragonstone which is the largest and main and is where the Targs fucked peasants for years
>Burn them all
>Burn them all
>Burn them all
>BURN THEM ALLLLL!!!!
What is she thinking at this very moment?
>GODS I WAS STRONG THEN
>barren wasteland
>with some shepards and a couple of fishing villages
pick one
>Ride up to the keep of the guy called "The Mad King" and demand his son come out to die
>Proceed to get arrested and drag your father into your stupidity
>Choke yourself to death trying to reach a sword you obviously can't reach without choking yourself while your dumbshit father that demanded trial by combat loses against fire
Starks really are fucking retarded
>strangles himself to death trying to break a rope with nothing but his neck
brandon was a fucking retard
I don't think Aerys was called the mad king before the rebellion.
He was though, he was considered batshit crazy at the Tourney of Harrenhall (which is off the table)
When will he reveal himself?
tfw no ice spiders
>He was though
Source? I know people considered him mad well before the rebellion, but i don't think people coined the term "mad king" that early.
>Ride up to the keep of the guy called "The Mad King" and demand his son come out to die
There were whispers about Aerys before this, but he didn't become "the Mad King" until he burned Rickard and Brandon alive. He was considered sort of crazy because of the way he looked at Harenhall, but nobody would have reasonably thought he would act the way he did.
>Rickard Stark: Hey your son "ran off with" (possibly abducted/raped) my daughter, please bring her back, also my daughter is betrothed to Lord Baratheon who is best friends with my son Ned and both are under the care of Lord Arryn whose heir is betrothed to Lysa Tully and my son Brandon is betrothed to Catelyn Tully and how fucking stupid must you be to not realize that if you kill me you will literally have at least 4 of the 7 kingdoms against you in an instant
>Aerys: HURR DURR BURN DEM ALL
Do you think Stannis took the fetuses in vats with him to the wall or was Dany in for a bizarre surprise?
it wouldn't have saved season 8, also they'd probably dress the spiders in plain black leather jackets.
That's why everyone initially fought the Targaryens, lost and then overthrew them once they had no more dragons. If you look at who aligns with Danny, it's all desperate people who want something
It really doesn't make a lot of sense to ride up to the castle of a guy who killed his mistress and her entire family, after torturing them, on the mere assumption they might have been responsible for his sons death and then demand his eldest son come out to die though does it? This shit wasn't a secret, he made a walk of repentance over it
Who are you arguing with? We aren't disagreeing with the Brandon being a dumbass part, we where just disputing the part about Aerys being referred as "the mad king" before the rebellion.
I don’t think she would be a bad queen at all, that’s not my point. My point is that in the show Dany only wanted non-white men to rule. And Yara, unlike Asha, doesn’t even love white mens cocks so she’s a diversity quota of some kind too.
AAAAGGGGGHHHHHHH SAVE MED EDDARD
I'll take "seeing things that aren't really there" for 500, alex
yeah, but to be fair they were starks, they reasonably assumed that their status would protect them.
That’s because that comes from the books where everyone in Westeros will be soured on the Seven due to the High Sparrow. Even in the Riverlands people are converting to R’hollor in the books so someone who follows the old god’s wouldn’t be that bad in comparison.
>"Surely he wouldn't be stupid enough to kill 2 members of one of the most powerful houses in the land, right?"
I want to see this! goddammit hbo
People like you who spam a name in all caps, you are problem a mindless Twitch drone that would spam the same word as everyone else in a Twitch stream and think it's funny
Dragonstone being abandoned for like three seasons was the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen
I highly doubt everyone suddenly started calling the guy that burned people alive and never cut his nails or hair mad only after he set some Stark on fire
He'd already executed all of the houses Darklyn and all but one of the Hollards for pissing him off, then started burning cunts alive he deemed traitors, seems like a reasonable assumption that you aren't dealing with a rational human being
Trying watching the scene again. It’s pretty fucking blatant.
The scenes at the Wall were all pretty good in season five, some of my favorites really except for changing why Jon got himself stabbed.
If someone asks you whether the show is worth a watch, here's a fantastic rule of thumb you can use to guide them:
>stop watching when your favorite character dies
Amazing litmus test that spares those with great taste, and punishes those who like awful characters, works even for characters who end up alive after all like Jon. If someone's favorite character is Tywin, there's not a single scene after his death that will interest them, if someone's favorite character is Ned, they get to enjoy the kinoest season unmarred by the rest of the show etc.
>He'd already executed all of the houses Darklyn and all but one of the Hollards for pissing him off, then started burning cunts alive he deemed traitors, seems like a reasonable assumption that you aren't dealing with a rational human being
Why didn’t rhadgar just kill him?
>Twitch
Why don't you go back there, you insufferable faggot.
She's, like, spiritual but not religious
I do too, it should be in the complete series set at least. But D&D are too ashamed of it. Seeing some of the shit they gave the okay to air on television it was probably pretty bad. I still want to see it, at least just this scene.
>not religious
Nobody is “not religious” in this era.
Jaime remembers the last time he spoke to Rhaegar, he did hint at doing something about Aerys. He just happened to die on the Trident before any of it could happen.
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>I highly doubt everyone suddenly started calling the guy that burned people alive and never cut his nails or hair mad only after he set some Stark on fire
So you were just talking about your headcanon then, got it.
I believe there's some suggestion that Rhaegar secretly funded the tourney at Harrenhall so that he could meet with other lords to discuss deposing his father.
>insufferable faggot.
says the spammer lmao
Joffrey Baratheon, son of Robert Baratheon and Cersei Lannister. The blood of the ancient Storm Kings and the ancient Rock Kings is thick in his blood.
There are several atheists in the books, GRRM's own atheism bleeds through unfortunately
How the fuck is Jaime going to escape Stoneheart and company.
>There are several atheists in the books, GRRM's own atheism bleeds through unfortunately
I’m an atheist myself. But the concept of atheism wasn’t really a thing till the 17th century. Pretty much everyone up until mid to late 20th century was super religious.
There's no reason to think she wouldn't force Dorn and da norf to remain. The deal she made with Yara was good because it forced them to stop being a nuisance, violation of which would be a pretext for reconquest, but after spending so much time trying to get Jon to bend the knee it's clear she wanted to rule all of the seven kingdoms
>So like I was RAISED in the Seven? But I feel like the dragon gods of Valyria are like... so much more ME, you know? They just have this great energy.
AAAAAAA FUCK WHITE WOMEN
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What "era"? You mean the era in the book which is made up fiction? Retards
I don't feel so good
>Gendry Storm
valyrian moon in retrograde xd
She is 100% going to burn that little shit alive. The irony is that she'll be hated for it.
It's not me replying to hour long posts, fuck off you seething nigger.
Rhaegar organized the Tourney of Harrenhall to test the waters of deposing his father. The problem was Varys found out about it and made Aerys come, basically making him a giant cockblock on the "should we take out the king?" meeting that Rhaegar wanted to have.
It was stupid to not see them using Wun Wun properly in that battle. He paws at some spears and is really only used to break down the door at the end. He should've been the main line of Snow's defense that they all grouped around, the only thing saving them from complete and utter defeat, and Snow/Davos/Everybody knows it.
Except you know its based off real world history and was made in part as a more grounded answer to high fantasy
Are you upset?
killing mid-tier houses isn't the same as killing starks of winterfells, the mystical hereditary rulers of a massive sub-kingdom who are extremely well-connected and have good relations with the other great houses. the starks didn't count on aerys being full-on retarded.
You started replying, so you tell me.
>Gendry of the Hollow Hill
>based off of
Yeah, based off of. He draws from different cultures and eras which conflict with each other. It is asinine to suggest that he is wrongly implanting "atheism" or characters who simply don't believe in gods.
can anybody tell me what the FUCK the point of quentyn was
Yes, you are upset. Probably a virgin too
Yeah but religion in the books was never realistic anyway. The North just having completely different gods and the other kingdoms just being okay with it when the faith of the seven is supposed to represent Catholicism doesn't really make sense. One of the weaker aspects of the world building imo
>and is really only used to break down the door at the end
Luckily, because not a single castle uses a portcullis. The wall is inexplicably more technologically advanced than the rest of Westeros in that regard, in fact they also had scorpions there back in season 4 before Qyburn invented them separately.
doran's attempt to get Danaerys
>Projecting
Just stop, user.
Quentyn is alive
No one in the books are flat out athiests because theres actual seeable evidence in the existence of a few like the Lord of Light and the Old Gods. Having every character be athiest was dabid injecting their own views in.
>Sansa testifies on littlefinger's behalf claiming than lysa killed herself
>Later accuses littlefinger of murdering lysa
You said "you tell me", so I'm telling you
>en.wikipedia.org
Try Mother of Monsters. But you're basically right, there's something inescapably divine about the dragons. Despite Gurm being nominally atheist he's mad into that aspect of the Targs.
Uhm, actually, Diagoras of Melos was a Greek atheist in 500BC.
Theists btfo and check mated
And i'm telling you that you are projecting your own flaws unto me.
Let me ask you, what drove you to reply to my offhand meme post? What made you SEETHE so hard that you just couldn't stop yourself from replying and sperging about "muh twitch"?
Yeah, the Seven feel like early-concept skeletons of a pantheon, they don't even have proper names. Obviously Gurm just couldn't be arsed with developing that aspect of the story into something plausible.
Dany has now completely alienated Dorne and they're jumping on the fAegon train now thanks to Quentyn
>The Athenians banished him from their city for his impiety and he died in Corinth.
>you are projecting your own flaws unto me
"unto" is actually an archaic way of saying that. Nowadays one would write "onto". Gg
It is said that the targs enforced the whole tolerance bit. Also the north is virtually unconquerable so maybe they reasoned it isnt worth it.
>That one is his father's son. Short and stocky, plain-faced, he seemed a decent lad, sober, sensible, dutiful ... but not the sort to make a young girl's heart beat faster. And Daenerys Targaryen, whatever else she might be, was still a young girl, as she herself would claim when it pleased her to play the innocent. Like all good queens she put her people first—else she would never have wed Hizdahr zo Loraq—but the girl in her still yearned for poetry, passion, and laughter. She wants fire, and Dorne sent her mud. You could make a poultice out of mud to cool a fever. You could plant seeds in mud and grow a crop to feed your children. Mud would nourish you, where fire would only consume you, but fools and children and young girls would choose fire every time.
More evidence that Dany is still pretty immature, as if her affair Juggalo Nahaaris wasn't enough evidence.
Meme philosopher.
Wait, who said many characters are atheists?
Stannis is probably the closest thing I can recall of an atheist. He disavows all gods but the ones that can serve him, which happens to just be R'hllor. Even still he doesn't really "believe" in R'hllor the way Melly does even if he acknowledges the existence and power.
>You mean the era in the book which is made up fiction?
The books are based off history of European middle ages.
>commission a huge suit of armor for wun wun
>form up behind him and use him like a tank
check and mate, ramsey
Why is this so hard to understand? Just another example of Aegon doing everything right and Dany doing everything wrong
Why do Ironborn worship the Drowned God and nobody else?
>Even still he doesn't really "believe" in R'hllor the way Melly does even if he acknowledges the existence and power.
his last pov is him watching a billow of dragonfire engulf him. he's dead faggot
>Can't come up with a good reply
>"B-better correct is grammar!"
>The best he could come up with is me using an archaic word
Fucking pathetic.
Worst is that they got conquered by the Andals as well. George is just a bad writer.
Merging Gendry and Edric had way more ramifications than the showrunners would like to admit, especially when it comes to "who has the right to rule." Gendry was never recognized and grew up in fleabottom, while Edric grew up in Storm's End and could actually have the capacity to rule.
>Aegeon is good because he's a Gary Stu and everything falls into his lap
Damn Redditors. He's just a male Dany.
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>soured on the Seven due to the High Sparrow
Why? They should be in a fervor, Faith has power again and even the crown is afraid.
And people are only worshipping the LoL in the Riverlands because of the Brotherhood
Good. Fuck fAegon
Who?
>while Edric grew up in Storm's End and could actually have the capacity to rule.
Which is why Edric will be a Baratheon at the end of the books and not Gendry.
Lannister nepotism knows no bounds
>will be soured on the Seven due to the High Sparrow.
The High Sparrow is probably the most beloved figure of the common people in all of Westeros in the books.
>Even in the Riverlands people are converting to R’hollor in the books
This is part of a bigger culture trend in Westeros in the big cities over the last couple decades.
>Stannis fags seething over the fact that Young Griff is going to cuck Stannis out of the throne
Pic related to all of you.
Yes, fAegon will win the throne, get over it you virgins.
Uh, that's not Stannis you redditor.
What's the deal with faeggon redditors?
>Yes, fAegon will win the throne,
For a bit
>fAegon shows up
>Right before, the Reach just happens to move their army from Storm's End very convenient for fAegon
>Storms End suddenly becomes a place that's easy to take, the intelligence of any commander disappears to the point where he can be "tricked" out of the castle
>Dorne just happens to lose a son to Dany, so it falls into his lap
>Everyone has been sucking his did since he was born
>Is also the secret prince, either way as a Targ or a Blackfyre
>Appears to be randomly shoe-horned into the plot, just like someone's fanfic OC
I think fAegon is supposed to represent the generic Gary Stu character, sort of like Jon, but George will subvert our expectations when him and his mercs sack King's Landing and murder King Tommen.
His leather whip caught fire, then his hand, then him. Leather doesn't catch fire fast. But whips are oiled, so that's what caught the whip aflame, and he caught fire because of an oilfire. They easily put out Quentyn's flames, showing they weren't that hot.
Quentyn got hit by the hot dragon breath, not by dragonfire. His friends act extremely out of character once Quentyn's "death" is announced. It's another person that got burned alive, the body is unrecognizable. They need to pretend to be sad to convince Barristan. Quentyn escaped and he stole a dragon.
Where are you getting this concept art from?
>implying Fake Aegon won't get his head smashed against a wall by Robert Strong for the sake of pottery
yer muh queen
And he'll be loved as the long lost Prince then get killed by Dany painting her as a villain in Westeros' eyes
Would be based
But book Dany keeps massively fucking up and is getting morally corrupted by Daario/Euron
She's already had her mental breakdown moment when she flys away from Meereen
No, he won't. After he sacks the city everyone will turn on him. Even dethroning Tommen loses him about half of the Riverlands thanks to Frey domination there and the West and not to mention the reach of Margary Tyrell is killed, which she aught to be unless the writing is ultra contrived. He's gone in after Varys "softened up" Westeros for him but in the end he'll just be softening it up for someone else, that'd be true poetry. Not bad writing like what you're suggesting.
He's holding the spear in his non existent right hand
Yeah and fAegon has already been turned into a spoilt brat by The Aids Griffon, Varys and Iliyro.
What were Tommen's last thoughts as he was falling to his death?
I suspect it was "Oh God aaah, I shouldn't have jumped. I'm going to die for real, holy shit why did i do this"
Cant wait to see my wife in the seven heavens
R'hllor isn't his God, he does not worship R'hllor.
>Not bad writing like what you're suggesting.
Except Dany's vision in the House of the Undying has Aegon/Mummer's dragon being cheered.
He's gonna steal both Dany and Jon's thunder and love then Dany killing him makes her "bad" even though it's"good" to kill a puppet pretender king who was placed by someone who started wars to weaken and bleed the kingdoms to place him there
Why did he change his sigil then?
It's dragon fire you dumb faggot. Dragon fire melts fucking Harrenhal you dumb faggot. Why wouldn't it burn leather? Holy shit you're stupid. His friends probably act 'different' because the heir to Dorne and their best friend and lord's son is fucking dead, burned alive.
>Finally after all this time I have become King's Landing
Yeah, and that would be bad contrived writing. Foreshadowing =/= Good Writing
Wow user changing a sigil is the same as worshiping and praying and putting faith in the god. He changes his sigil probably at Melisandre's behest and to set himself apart from Renly, who is a traitor, and Robert, who is dead.
>Dragon fire melts fucking Harrenhal
So if he were killed with dragonfire he would have been insta-killed like everyone else the dragons burnt, instead of dying of first degree burns after three days
>It's just silly how the showrunners ended up not 'getting'/understand what their own show is all about.
The original pilot of Game of Thrones that they made was considered to be an incoherent mess that required other people to jump on board to save it from being shut down by HBO.
Hate it all you want but it's what George is gonna go for, accept it now user
It's different if Jon dying and coming back actually serves a purpose and dramatically changes his character which is what I assume Gurm is gonna do. Like nobody ever really brings up that he actually died beyond throwaway lines and jokes. I don't think any of the northern lords know he got resurrected and they should all be executing him for deserting the watch because he only left because of a technicality
Dragon fire doesn't always instakill. Dany's dragon rampage on the Masters doesn't instakill them but they were weak. Balerion was probably the strongest dragon and might be a bad example to prove you wrong but the point is that dragonfire seldom spares its victims. Remember, Quentyn was engulfed. There's no way he's alive. Even if the burning didn't kill him he can just get infected because his whole body is exposed raw flesh melded with burnt clothes
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Hopefully Jon undergoes a personality change and becomes more vengeful or vindictive as a result of his resurrection. Look at Stoneheart. The context of their deaths matters too, flavoring how they act when resurrected. And Beric "loses" a bit of himself with each death so it won't be absurd to assume that Jon loses something too, even if he wargs into Ghost.
You don't have to worship a God and pray to him to believe in him or put faith in him.
Stannis clearly puts faith and believes in Rhollor, else he wouldn't have burnt his daughter.
Or do you think he did that for fun?