RBMK

is deep water horizon any good and comparable? Or is it just an annoying drunk Wahlberg movie?

gay porn with hats on?

Was it say anywhere in the series that the real name of the nuclear compound was Vladímir Ilich Lenin?

first episode. By Zharkov(Maester Luwin)

Are alpha or beta rays more based and rad?

Your faith in Soviet socialism will be rewarded

A mockumentary on a group of typical nuclear power plant workers, where the workday consists of ego clashes, inappropriate behavior, and tedium.

would you watch it?

streamable.com/1q8sj

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I'd watch just for Dyatlov being a shit, and based Sitnikov cleaning up every time it becomes his shift.

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this guy has a whole meme about it

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Alpha particles are extremely heavy and will instantly give you a fatal dose of ionising radiation if you ever touch or god forbid ingest material that is undergoing alpha decay. But because they are so heavy, they don't have much penetration depth, so a literal piece of paper will be enough to stop a lot of alpha particles by itself.

They are also incredibly highly energetic. Part of the reason they don't get very far is because they are basically He2+ and will steal two fucking electrons from whatever nigger molecules it bumps into first hence why they don't go very far. It hits something, takes two electrons, breaking that molecule apart and then flatting away will full and happy shelled helium.

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>we claim this irradiated nuclear wasteland for Soviet Union

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The best meme of the series

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patrician detected

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>Couldn't put a flag on the moon
>But they could put a flag above the remains of the nuclear reactor they mostly shovelled back into its hole

Why do we shit on the based Soviet Union again?

Why is everyone so afraid of Chernobyl or the even less dangerous effects of Fukushima, but no one talks about the countless nuclear tests ages before either of the accidents that released much, much more radioactive particles into the atmosphere and no one ever bothered to clean that shit up?

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So that's how /rbmk/ dies... It's over bros

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I just noticed that I think my dad has the same pair of USSR-made binoculars

Any more?

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someone post the new order edit of this

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Comrade Dyatlov, comrade Kirschenbaum put my AZ-5 into jelly again!

пиздeц indeed

Please post the one where Crozier looks back at Legasov in a looking glass

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Akimov actually pressed the fake AZ-5 button that Khodemchuk put there, the sneaky bugger!

Is it true the earthworms are now 17% bigger?

because of capitalist propaganda

Wow Legasov was swole af

Khodemchuk!!
Where are my fucking pencils? Did you tape them to the control rods again? I told you it was dangerous!

waiting for the new Refn kino

Just like the radiation in the liquidator's bones, /RBMK/ will live on in our hearts.

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Top kek

Thank you

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it wouldn't have happened in the ussr either if they'd told the engineers about the flaws of the rbmk reactors

It wouldn't have happened even if they kept it secret since it would only become an issue in unnatural circumstances. They used the control rods a billion times already and it never was an issue, only during the Chernobyl disaster, which would have happened, graphite tips or not.
It was the xenon poisoning that did it, not the graphite. They withdrew all the rods, something that shouldn't be done, took away all the counter measures and just kicked and raped the reactor into giving out power, because Dyatlov's motivation wasn't only to complete the experiment(normally the stalled reactor would have to remain shut down for 1-3 days to allow the Xe-135 to decay to the stable Cs 136 which doesn't absob neutrons, allowing the neutrons to fission again with the u-235 and restart the fission chain reaction, however, this down time would mean that they would risk power outages or even worse: No plutonium production for weapons. (since plutionium is a byproduct of reactors) and this would cause an investigation and punishment. Imagine you already failed an experiment 3 times and asked 3 hours earlier for a promotion and then you stall the reactor for 3 days and wont be producing plutonium for 3 days. The soviet union could scrap all their future aspirations of nuclear weapons if this would happen every other day.
So Dyatlov broke protocol out of fear and out of determination to turn this fuck up into a breakthrough "Look at me, I was able to keep a reactor from stalling AND complete a difficult experiment"
And then, only then, did the entire RBMK system become dangerous. The graphite tips only accelerated it by maybe 30 seconds. The reactor was going to blow either way. They "restarted" it far too quickly.

it turn them into superhero

are there any legit pictures of the victims?

i want to see what the actual effects look like

Completely wrong, go read a book about it.

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lmao that was one terrible movie, actual props for remembering user

Neat, by the way did that user end up making a True Detective parody with Chernobyl?

Military guy was based

Previous thread as OP is a nigger and probably gay:

>series is not a documentary nor pretends to be
>every episode is accompanied by a podcast with the director mentioning the license that departs from the truth

>"HURR DURR CHERNOBYL IS NOT REALISTIC! LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT IT IN 5 ARTICLES"
It's all so tiring. I don't mind the discussion, is the tone of the these articles as if Chernobyl ever pretended to be the absolute ultimate only truth about the events.

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Never seen a chernobyl vicitm but radiation blasts will make your skin fall off eventually, it happened in japan.

How so?

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The tissue dies and falls apart. One of the guys in chernobyl described it as "skin fell of my foot like a sock".

And yet we don't have a single photograph or vid of it. Strange, isn't it?

Like this.

imgur.com/s45t7Oe

Post the image. I don't open links on this site.

I gotchu pham, ip trackers n shiet.

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Dinner...is served.

>they had us in the first half, not gonna lie

БПЦ 8x30? I have a pair of those.

you dopey fucking cunts

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what?

Wow what an answer. You must be so correct since you gave arguments and sources

If it was limited to that.

From what I've gathered, during exposure, some of your cells will die immediately, you become nauseous as your body tries to flush out the slag created by the dead tissue. But if the exposure is serious enough and enough of your cells have their genomes compromised, they can no longer renew themselves so when the time comes for them to die, they die but aren't replaced... Your organs will start to fail and necrotise.

Short of some sci-fi stemcell treatment with uncompromised DNA I don't see any way for someone to survive very severe exposure.

Ahem, there's actual pics of Emily Watson nude that are semi-recent.

Good, good, move along boys.

How do you figure that?

pics

Huh, you weren't kidding.

How do you mean?

>pic featuring the naked miner with his dick out
>I just noticed that I think my dad has the same pair of

She's quite a fridge.
Anyway, she looks exactly like a 40-something slav woman that works as a teacher or a doctor.

youtu.be/l1xGC0H03rM

new oc shitpost - rate it comrades

sex. would you have sex with her?

Living 11 minutes away from one and friends with 8 of them, I hear a lot of good stories that would make material. People clogging toilets during 24 hour shutdowns that made the janitors have to replace the plumbing systems, a guy who brought his gun through the security checkpoint, a guy who lied to get a promotion meaning his last 3 years of work need to be reevaluated, a dead bird lying in a cubicle for God knows how long (pic related), turkey fights by the parking lots, certain contractors who all say the pledge of allegiance before work, doing work for the pure purpose of avoiding the NERC, being moved around to departments with no knowledge or capability besides being manpower, being provided a "free lunch" during a 12 hour shift that's actually only 3 chicken wings each, and other sorts of adventures of people who dont know what they're doing

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I need to write a primer on Acute Radiation Syndrome.

Note that you need to get seriously nuked for this to happen - The generally accepted hard limit is 10 Sieverts, or about 1000 Roentgen, though you're gonna be rolling the dice really hard at half that - the accepted limit of radiation you can safely absorb over the course of your entire LIFE is 2.7 Sieverts, or about 270 Roentgen.

The first symptom is the so-called 'nuclear tan'. Skin facing the radiation source turns red, blistering, then black. The eyes, if they're hit, may change color - the pigment in your iris has been bleached out by the radiation. Alongside the massive nausea (often to the point of vomiting and falling unconscious) this is the first sign you're in real trouble.

But then the radiation decides to fuck with you.

The initial symptoms fade - the blistering starts to fade as your platelets patch the damage. The nausea goes away, and you feel like you're getting better.

But you're not.

The radiation has destroyed your DNA - the blueprints your cells use to replicate. Every cell in the human body has a built-in lifespan, after which they die and are replaced. This lifespan varies depending on the type of cell, and now none of them can replace themselves. You're already dead, you just haven't stopped moving yet.

The first system to fail is the bone marrow - your body loses the ability to produce new blood cells, red and white. Your immune system completely fails - even a cold can ravage you. ARS victims often developed severe bacterial infections in their digestive tract as the symbiotic bacteria living within them suddenly realized there was no more symbiosis.

Next, the skin starts to decay. The blisters and burns return, and get worse - and they never get better. It's not damage, your skin is literally falling apart. One Chernobyl worker was reported trying to stand up, only to have the skin on one of his legs slide off like a sock.

>cont'd

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>Brukhyanov table clap
based

My favourite minor character

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Marky Mark swims back the Louisiana coast and beats up 2 Vietnamese shrimp farmers so you could say its pretty K I N O

Muscle tissue decays too. Lyudmila Ignatenko reported that her husband Vasily (a Chernobyl firefighter, for those of you totally unaware) lost the ability to properly move as his sickness progressed - at one point she attempted to lift his arm, only for all the muscle tissue to disconnect from the bone. Exactly what that looked like, I will leave to the imagination.

During all of this, you will be hemorrhaging like a sieve. The blood vessels of your body decay to the point where they can't properly carry any fluid, let alone medicine - this prevents the administration of morphine.

On that subject, ARS's greatest cruelty is that your nerves - neuron cells - have the longest lifespan of any cell in your body (on the order of years). This makes them the most resistant to radiation; thus you are kept totally aware and fully cognizant of the pain of your body falling apart cell by cell. It's like decomposing, except you're along for the ride.

The last system to fail, if you make it this far, is the internal organs - liver, lungs, heart. They all start to fall apart - this multiple organ failure is what actually kills you.

The generally accepted 'treatment' is to put the patient in a chemically induced coma so they don't feel anything, and then fight the sickness as hard as possible. Until the multiple organ failure occurs, there is a chance that the patient will survive - it all depends on how much radiation you truly absorbed. This is what happened to Hisashi Ouchi - his family consented to every treatment in his stead, and he spend most of his 83 days unconscious and swimming in tranquilizers.

That's the best that can be done to fight ARS - ensure you die quietly and (hopefully) comfortably.

Retard here, why didn't Chernobyl have a big ass cooling tower?

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Well sure, she at least has the experience

Threads are slowing down now, soon to be replaced by more capeshit.

Is there a Chad Alpha particle vs Virgin beta particle meme yet?

10/10 would watch if they made it for real

The Bryukhanov clap was based as fuck, and so was almost everything else.
But what's with the fucked up pitch? Copyright paranoia?

I SERVE THE SOVIET UNION
>800 rubles is 12$

Thought you were going to say your dad has the same pair of USSR-made testicles

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More like 400$ but still, that's the lowest legal wage for a months work in most of europe.

No direct need (although one was being built (see pictures in the show and on google) and well, saving money.

Might be it has to do with the fact that there is a cooling cycle, the steam is being cooled and forced back through the pipes again as water.

The cooling pond was enough for 4 reactors. They were building one for the 5th and 6th but for obvious reasons never finished it.

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shitty ones.

Yeah but what can you get fior 800 rubles? Also this is completely extra as housing etc is completely provided.

no need, in fact the cooling process was the problem. they had a good system of water running through the reactor to cool it, but when they stuck the graphite tips that increase reactivity in it caused more energy (heat) to be given off which boiled all the water into steam, which ruptured and blew up the reactor

yay housing! yay free food!

do we get led shielding and protective gear as w-

NO.

youtube.com/watch?v=uvAlWPeGEyY

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He's still alive and watched the show

youtube.com/watch?v=6p9LR3gxBm0

He was way more based in real life

youtube.com/watch?v=tqaLf5VfxRE

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Should be perfectly legal to humanely kill people dying of radiation exposure so they don't have to suffer through this

forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/06/06/why-hbos-chernobyl-gets-nuclear-so-wrong/#e4444a8632f6

Were we lied to? Or is he and this Higginbottom just a soviet shill?

He truly is based. Would be the best character on the show by far.

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How do they keep you in a coma when your body cannot be administered fluids anymore?

youtu.be/Lua3rvuA-Hs

The last interview with Dyatlov with eng sub
He did nothing wrong

this scene saved the show
youtube.com/watch?v=GxPS6ucD5Bg

He's right about the series scaring people about nuclear energy, though it wasn't their intention.

He ordered the unsafe use of the generator

pmarketing.ru/publications/general-questions/social-dynamics/prices-salaries-60-80s
Colored TV - 650 rubles
Washing machine - 160 rubles
Big set of DDR furniture - 1150 rubles
VAZ-2108 car - 8300 rubles
Red caviar (140g) - 4 rubles

This other guy was baseder

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What's he saying?
Also what does shellenberger mean? Is it a cross between shekel and shillenberger?

>Higginbottom just a soviet shill
i hope not, i just bought that fucking book

He didn't know

I'll buy that big Radiation King tv set.

FYI this guy is probably a Chernobyl victim, not the Japanese Ouchie dude

I mean his twitter is beautiful. He is a true scientist and shares some of my views, but his book stinks of pseudoscience and wannabe historical. I mean they contradict the voices of Chernobyl thing about Lyudmilla's baby which we know is a fact and they claim that ARS doesn't leave you bloody(which isn't even shown in the show, only Leonid has a nose bleed) and yet we have those images of this Ouchi guy who is red all over.

i serve the soviet union

good to know, thanks

Ironically, after watching the show, I feel much more confident about nuclear energy, even with shabby RBMK setups.

100 deaths linked to nuclear energy are compensated by 100.000 deaths caused by coal power plants for the same amount of energy generation.

Cray

youtube.com/watch?v=mkFj6VTenkQ

>and yet we have those images of this Ouchi guy who is red all over.
If you're talking about this picture, that's more likely to be a Chernobyl victim than Ouchi

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>Big set of DDR furniture - 1150 rubles
fucking german kikes

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The energy crisis is best solved by the invisible hand of Core-chan

Jews did Chernobyl!!!!!

I thought this image was fake, satan?

...Did you literally just googled the current USDtoRUB rate?
Is this brainlet even sufficient to describe you i wonder

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>The character really looks like me. I really like him. You know, I almost fell in love with him
blessed clip

i serve the soviet union

>In the second half of the 18th century, Chernobyl became a major center of Hasidic Judaism. The Chernobyl Hasidic dynasty had been founded by Rabbi Menachem Nachum Twersky. The Jewish population suffered greatly from pogroms in October 1905 and in March–April 1919; many Jews were killed or robbed at the instigation of the Russian nationalist Black Hundreds. When the Twersky Dynasty left Chernobyl in 1920, it ceased to exist as a centre of Hasidism.
>Chernobyl had a population of 10,800 in 1898, including 7,200 Jews.

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you're fucking retarded if you can't account for inflation

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>Tfw the closest we could have gotten to having the Zone was the Windscale Fire
Cockroft denied us a zone in the north of England

Chernobyl
>worst

What about all the shit of the Mayak plant and the Techa river where the Russians just dumped nuclear waste in a river that fed thousands ?

Vnimaniye! Vnimaniye! Vnimaniye!

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Chernobyl gay porn spin-off fucking when? I've already written the plot in my head and everything.

Wish I had a friendship like Legasov and Shcherbina.

My point was, who is correct now? The Forbes guy, claiming ars wont leave you bleeding, or these images all over the internet and Tarakanov, who didn't even suffer the worst ars yet says in the RT video that shaving could leave him bleeding for hours?

This looks so unbelievably shit. It's only worse when you realise it's a much lower budget version of the good film Outlaw King

God fucking damn it I am scared of radiation

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This, a RUB was worth around 1 1986 dollar at the time, still not enough to run near a big ass hole where a reactor had melted and shovel pieces of shit into it.

I just realized my relationship with my partner at work is kind of like Legasov and Scherbina.

>tfw didn't get around to watching this show until last night
>tfw missed comfy /rbmk/ threads

Shouldn't you capitalists be attending a gay parade in your chastity cage and buttplug costume?

>Forbes
you should disregard anything the second you hear that name

How much do you think would the US government have given, if Three Mile Island was as disastrous as Chernobyl?

nothing considering it was an honor to watch a nuclear blast in first person

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>In episode one, high doses of radiation make workers bleed, and in episode two, a nurse who merely touches a firefighter sees her hand turn bright red, as though burned. Neither thing occurred or is possible.
They're right, none of those are possible. ARS doesn't cause bleeding by itself, it does however in the severe cases of the Chernobyl victims, lead to your skin peeling off and your body not able to heal along with low platelely count which exacerbates bleeding.

Did this really happen

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I serve the Soviet union

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Anecdotal evidence, no real proof.

No-one knows, but they took a hefty amount of radiation for sure

Chronological Ep1 and Ep5 edit
vimeo.com/340478805/600bdd1293

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You are contradicting yourself then though. You say they are correct that ARS doesn't cause it, yet in the Chernobyl victims it was possible.

Core, nice and hot

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I need more faceapp edits

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But do you wear thick square glasses?

>yet in the Chernobyl victims it was possible.
Did they start bleeding randomly? Or was the bleeding caused by the radiation burns?

This one would always be my favorite

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wut mods

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Someone should draw Core-chan pole dancing on that.

On the ukrainian wiki articles for the three divers it is stated that the media reported that they all died in the weeks after, however, two are alive and the third died in 2005 or so.

Chernobyl is riddled with anecdotal evidence and legends, fake news, fluctuating numbers of victims, the question wheter the liquidators were volunteers or not etc etc

I serve the Soviet Union.

By pumping it straight into your spine, I think. The cerebro-spinal membrane is tougher than the rest of you.

the bleeding was caused by bullets. they say in one of the episodes

Can a certified autist explain to me why we need a huge ass containment sarcophagus that will last only 100 years, but there are people able to walk in the destroyed core vessel and even touch the bent fuel rods?

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using France as a source isn't fair because Chernobyl's radiation cloud stopped at the border

Some collection called "Stalker Complete 2009", I was too lazy to search for something more advanced. Gameplay and guns are vanilla.
This naughty girl squirted on me

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I serve the Soviet Union

I serve the Soviet Union.

Tarakanov says in the RT interview that a shaving scratch left him bleeding for hours.
And I mean, if your skin peels off, falls off, you would expect heavy bleeding.

Save to visit =/= safe to inhabit. You can take the heat for short periods of time, but if the radiation is allowed to leak out it will pervade the area, contaminating groundwater and soil.

Not really considering the soviets probably wanted to cover up as much of the incident as possible.

youtu.be/ZL0rdf_3Ivs?t=79
What if we shoot the graphite?

Those guys can only hang around for a bit even today because it's so so contaminated, the radiation was way worse 33 years ago, and even today if the sarcophagus was ripped open by a piece of shit falling on it, the radiation levels and cancer rates would go up a good bit.

>still not enough to run near a big ass hole where a reactor had melted and shovel pieces of shit into it
I agree, i was just baffled by the retard comparison

Alrighty, do you have a better chart? I only found this one so far. I could look up for another.

I know however that the Fukushima radiation is 100-1000 times(depending on the specific spot in the ocean) less that the radiation levels the japanese coast received as a result of weapons testing. (not counting Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which were tests, but left much less radiation than either Fukushima or the other weapons tests)

Right, probably because he has low platelet count which prevents clotting, which is a symptom of ARS. What ARS doesn't do is CAUSE you to bleed, which is what the Forbes guy is saying. Honeslty I don't remember enough of episode 1 or care to download and scrub through it again to figure out what scene he's referring to. If anyone else can and post a screenshot here of this firefighter supposedly bleeding that would be great.

>What about the nothing where nothing happened
-t. sluggish schizo

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I was just joking, "the radiation will stop at the border" was a retarded statement the president of France pulled out of his ass to calm people worrying about the disaster

Is there a plan for 2100? Will they just erect the same structure, but bigger, over it or will it need a new material to contain it?

Would it be possible to build a large water holding construction around it and submerge it all since water is a rather good radiation shield?

Because the reactor didn't actually explode.

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Unironic non-meme question
Was Legasov autistic? Or at least was Jared deliberately playing him as autistic in the show?

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>tfw 4chin shitposting is unironically harder to contain that ionizing radiation

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

How was Yuchenko (chubby guy that held the door to the reactor open) able to randomly start bleeding on his calf and should then, which is a fact, not just an HBO invention?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_involvement_in_the_Chernobyl_disaster#Aleksandr_Yuvchenko

It says "burns" but if his skin fell off and he needed transfusions, it would involve loss of blood.

youtube.com/watch?v=6UxJJItYHXU

But you are of course right with your statement that some places received more or less of the cloud. And France didn't receive as much as Germany or Finland.

I assume the plan for now is to wait until some kind of ultimate deactivation is invented. Or anti-gravity so we could just take this shit out and shoot it into the Sun.

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>randomly start bleeding
he was pushing the heavy door with his body though iirc, grazing against it while he was trying to squeeze through, peeling some upper layers of skin off in the process

Couldn't we feed stuff like xenon-135 or whatever into the building to stop radiation by absorbing neutrons or having neutrons be absorbed by whatever? Could we choke an open reactor?

>Some collection called "Stalker Complete 2009", I was too lazy to search for something more advanced. Gameplay and guns are vanilla.
I play this version too, Yea Forums autists get mad but so far this is the most stable for me and adds some nice features.

Some things he's right about and then other things like radiation making people bleed is him misinterpreting what happened in the show. I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure you can be exposed to radiation from heavily irradiated people. I know that the autopsies for the SL-1 operators were especially dangerous and had special precautions since they were so irradiated.

>gets burned
>skin peels off
>because of low platelet count and immune system getting fucked you keep bleeding, getting infections and keep needing transfusions because your bone marrow (where your blood cells are made) gets fucked too
It's not that hard user

Hi, I just wanna say that I love you guys and I think we shared something special here.

He didn't write that article

xenon has lots of neutrons but you'd have to use it in a gas form which is much less dense than most solids, plus you'd get leaks and it would be more expensive than anything else

gaaaaay

The Goiana accident, much, much less dangerous than the Chernobyl radiation, leaves me skeptical about the Forbes article as well, since the guys started vomiting, diarrhea and the hand started swelling up and he began amputating fingers off it.
Why would HBO want to lie and invent shit if they were so into the material and did so much good research and abstained from showing mutants etc which viewers would have loved, true or not?

Short and sweet, RBMK days.

Hyperboloid cooling towers are not exclusive to nuclear power. Also there were two under construction near Chernobyl NPP that were never finished due to the disaster.

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How so?

>Hey, let's pour radioactive gas on an open core
Cute idea, but leave that to adults.

Зa здopoвьe!

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I mean, why wouldn't you be affected by a radiated person but be affected by a radiated piece of dirt? The reason they killed the mammals was because the fallout dust in their furs could be spread across the continent.

And if the guy who touched the graphite(which on itself wouldn't be radioactive, but because it was in contact with the uranium it was) received the burns from it, why wouldn't the clothes and unwashed skin of the firefighters have the same effect as the graphite?

No. *slams fists on table*

We can't adjourn.

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Water is a bad idea, because the structure is not particularly water-holding. The water would absorb the radiation and then drain into the groundwater.

I presume the plan in 100 years will be for whoever is in power to build another containment structure over the current one, or perhaps rebuild the interior sarcophagus. Who knows.

Was glasses and stellan gay?

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Because they are actual pieces of fuel in the pores of graphite. On your clothes you have only dust that was flying around.

I knew original Tetris was way more hardcore than the one we know but look at the Soviet Whack-A-Mole

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I was thinking of an underground large sheet of metal and plastic, like the stuff used for artificial ponds, and then build around the entire building, so it is completely contained.

what?

That's why I asked the adults. How about giving a correct answer than just sniggering in ignorance?

There's nothing gay about loving your comrades and kissing them on the lips passionately.

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> remember that, thanks to containment buildings, extensive security protocols and core catchers, this cannot happen in the West.

This is happened in Japan with much worse radiation blow out.

i serve /rbmk/

>his one foot actually goes up a bit in excitement

he's really into it, no matter how stern he tries to look.

Japan was hydrogen from the reaction of melted fuel cladding and water filling up in the ventilated buildings and blowing the roof off, not the massive steam explosion + massive hydrogen/steam again/nuclear explosion that took out the reactor and reactor hall at Chernobyl.

Plastic is the most enduring but installing a massive sheet of the stuff underground over the course of...it's got to be multiple acres by now...It'd be a massive undertaking. And because of the radiation hazard, and the giant block of concrete that filled the miner's tunnel about 12m down, it wouldn't be easy.

Looks like a dope visualizer.

>How about giving a correct answer than just sniggering in ignorance?
Because it's idea so retarded it makes me think how did you even came up with it. If you watched the show you would know they dropping boron on it from the helicopters.

Based Rey

This is pretty blatant. How did it get pats censorship?

Fukushima happened just like Chernobyl because idiots wouldn't address design flaws (Emergency generator was underwater)

Besides, although the corium leaked into the ocean, the radiation levels are not harmful to either marina animals or humans eating them.
If Fukushima had a core catcher, it wouldn't have leaked.
The fact that Fukushima withstood this crazy tsunami and earthquake as good as it did is brilliant in its own way.

>much worse radiation
Objectively incorrect.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Fukushima_and_Chernobyl_nuclear_accidents

>Radioactivity released
>Fukushima: 340–780 PBq as of 2014
>Chernobyl: 14,000 PBq

Well, we have 100 years to do it. Use robots and stuff.

We could use plastic waste and thus cover two problems at once, right? Right?

Radiationed and Sovietpilled comrade.

Maybe in 100 years we'll have figured out a way to sequester radiation and actually render the site clean. For now, it'll have to do.

Does anyone have a good schematic of the fuel and control rods?

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does anyone have the three stooges meme about the trial?

Ep4 was the only weak episode, dog killing scenes were too long and irrelevant to the main plot, it was just for shock value

what part of his acting made you think hes portraying him autistic?
he was just a man who had passion for science

I serve the Soviet Union

I SERVE THE SOVIET UNION

i serve the soviet union.

>Objectively incorrect.

>peer reviewed estimate
>2014
>Radiation continues to be released into the Pacific via groundwater.

objective is not the word

Not great, not terrible. Seen a better one posted in a previous thread.

watch the docu they don't all say it like the hbo wants you to believe
america is fraud lol.

Evaporation cooling towers are only necessary in hotter climates if you don't have a plentiful cool temperature water at hand.

My favorite minor character is General Pikalov. He was based.

>it was just for shock value
It was, but shooting cute radioactive doggos and other pets as part of the cleanup actually happened.

i serve the soviet union

this whole thing is american propaganda. RBMK reactors are generally better built than american ones, and there is heaps of evidence of sabotage at chernobyl.

The Soviet Union is gone, Putin.

>and there is heaps of evidence of sabotage at chernobyl.
really want to see this now, thats what the russian version will be about? fantastic.

>t. dyatlov

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average monthly paycheck was 100 rubles
getting 8 month worth of pay for few weeks of work seems reasonable

there is no way for the pressure to build up that great in any nuclear reactor, there are relief valves. plus, all of the surrounding structure has blast marks that line up with a bomb, and witnesses reported seeing a mushroom cloud. it was a CIA suitcase nuke.

>time for dinner kids

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its more money than they would earn in the rest of their lives.

"awww poor doggies :::'''((((" just doesn't really works in the context of the catastrophe that was going on. Maybe if everything is fine and you have nothing to worry about you can go dig yourself silly issues to be upset about, but in the context of Chernobyl and three tense episodes of dealing with some real shit this garbage episode just felt like genuine, intentional attempt to waste your time for nothing

>t.Fomin

>tfw want my own reactor after watching Chernobyl

GE says they can build me a reactor for $7.5 billion, but that seems too expensive.

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i'm no plumber but a pressure relief valve, any valve, any pipe, opening, hole etc, has a limit to how quickly it can let pressure escape, if the pressure was to increase quickly enough i can believe that the valves might be overwhelmed even if fully open.

interested to see the bomb marks if you have anything available.

I was on the toilet

And I'm sure it's released literally an order of magnitude more radiation since. And that STILL wouldn't be enough, since Chernobyl barfed out literally 20 times as much as the highest estimate.

Shill harder

I serve the soviet union

maybe you missed some of the points about it.
he was a kid from the motor pool, they were running out of soldiers to radiation sickness and drafting in kids to fill posts.

secondly arguably the character didn't exist and was an amalgamation of lots of different men who did the actual job, but because he was a man nobody on Yea Forums complained about it.

If there were a nuclear bomb, the fallout wouldn't have been this bad, plus the reactor graphite would not have been ejected but rather pushed down before being completely disintegrated.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't have massive nuclear fallouts because, newsflash, nukes work entirely different than nuclear reactors.

Fucking John Cleese

fukashima was how many reactors? so meltdown of how many more times fuel? and how many years later? after opportunity to learn lessons and shit? fool me once.

Their are also memoirs of the CIA saying cherno would be a good target. I'm starting to think it was the CIA. why can't they just leave everyone alone? Why does the American government always go against everyone's best interests? Are they just sadistic or dumb?

Same I've always been obsessed with nuclear reactors
Fusion ones especially the smaller ones but I'm not sure if they will ever generate positive power and remain stable

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if you put it under the containment vessel it would push everything up and out.
there were two explosions remember? first was the bomb, second was the core.
i made all that up i'm just saying is it plausible? i want to hear from experts please.

How many reactors at Fukushima exploded?

How many reactors at Fukushima breached their core containment vessels?

How many reactors at Fukushima ejected a sizeable portion of the core mass outside of the reactor building?

The absolute state of tankies who think that 'number of meltdowns' = 'severity of problem'.

>Jory Cassel was Sitnikov
Really did not recognize him

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Are breeder reactors sustainable or are they just a meme?

you build it in international waters on an old oil rig
then you can drop all those pesky safety features because of lack of regulation and cut your costs massively

FRIENDLY reminder that IQ is falling by 5 points every 10 years thanks to race mixing and immigration

In 2100 there will be monthly nuclear disasters because humanity will be too stupid to maintain the power plants

Hopefully we'll be Dead by then

Not that guy, but Fukushima's groundwater contamination is still not contained. It's ongoing. There is no solid estimate of how much groundwater has been polluted and at what rate radioactive materials are still flowing into groundwater let alone how much has seeped into the ocean.

This is true, but we can infer quite easily from the condition of the water in the area that the radiation release is not that severe. It would have to render the water toxic to nearly all forms of life if the release came anywhere NEAR Chernobyl levels.

While are agree that Russians have generally better designs, RBMK aren't exactely the safest one. I know that they are significantly more effective and cheaper than other models, but that positive void coefficient simply isn't worth it.

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First, you couldn't really go under the vessel at the time of the experiment, since it was flooded, and even then, a nuke OBLITERATES. It isn't a steam explosion that just pushes everything about. It obliterates anything in XY meters radius depending on how strong it is.

Stop larping, it is getting boring.

What is the cost of samefagging?

People have made hydrogen fusors, diy style ,

Not that user, but no bomb completely destroys the area around it on an ATOMIC level, which is what you'd need to do in order to destroy the radiation.

If you snuck a nuke underneath a nuclear reactor the resulting release would indeed be quite radioactive. Actually pulling this off is another matter.

>what is Fukushima disaster

Found some stuff at home.
>Nuclear energy and it's future
Book is dated 1967 though, no RBMKs yet.

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China is about to find out.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFR-600

I have to brush back up on my science reactor terms but no not that I am aware they are still in the functional prototype phase
forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2019/05/21/the-new-nuclear-how-a-600-million-fusion-energy-unicorn-plans-to-beat-solar/#1acb4409629e
Once a design for stable nuclear reaction is reached they will adopted enmasse as they are compact and require relatively little cooling but are even more complex in nature and I don't think anyone had seen one go unstable yet
I think it's similar to the large hadron collider type reactors where they are powered off by default
Some also say that muh black holes will be created if shit goes wrong but the power required to create one would be something impossible for now I am sure
Reactors especially fusion have scp tier lore surrounding them and nobody really knows anything about them yet as they are relatively new and apparently been in the works since the 50s but my gut tells me they are much older given how relatively simple they are to construct but more complicated to control

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>Get exposed to shit ton of roentgen
>Live to 1995 two months after I was born
Based Dyatlov

What IS the Fukushima disaster? How many of those reactors exploded and ejected their core mass into the area around the reactor building?

We also just don't know how many RBMKs malfunctioned. We know of Chernobyl because they couldn't keep the spread of information contained this time, but they were able to hide Mayak, Techa river and the one at the other RBMK where they noticed the design flaw in the first place.

Russia is even today able to just hide facts. In 2017 there was another nuclear accident which was only noticed because of a steep rise in radioactive particles in France, Sweden, etc and can be pinned down to a plant in Russia, but they wont allow an investigation and deny it happened.

>I need to write a primer on Acute Radiation Syndrome.
zfbweb.zfb.fuw.edu.pl/index.php/portfolio-item/monte-carlo-simulations-of-cell-response-to-dna-damage-of-various-complexities/

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Anybody got that chat of characters and what happend to their real counterparts?

The danger fukushima posed to marine wildlife wasn't even the radiation, it was the heat.

For the sciencelets out there: heat decreases solubility of oxygen in water thus suffocating fish.

sup bra

Yes but did they sustainably create more power than they used? This is the big thing about fusion as I m aware they don't always create more power than they use to remain operating

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>sustainable
what? of course they are
breeders are absolutely based. whatever you hear about them being poor is lies. breeders use up all the fuel. like 99% of it, very efficient, so how are they worse? well you will hear uranium is cheap now and its hard to process fuel for breeder. wrong. the only reason any decision regarding nuclear anything is made is because it benefits the government by creating plutonium for bombs.

This is all correct but a bit clinical. I wanted to try and present a Yea Forums-tier explanation of what it would do.

Umm yeah?

Fukushima wasn't a complete disaster exactly because it has a sophisticated containment building.
The corium leaked into the ocean where it is safely contained by seawater which shields radiation and also cools it down thanks to a continuous water flow.

Fukushima has exactly 0 casualties.

fusion reactors have been 5 years away for the past 40 years user. don't hold your breath waiting on them.

Anybody got the chart showing what happened to the characters real counterparts?

The level of radiation was overblown. Even these guys got only the perfectly survivable dose and 2/3 of divers are still alive.

Yeah, they got sick and fucked up for few days but fatalities with 1-2 Grays are rare. Sure, some if not all might get cancer but who doesnt these days? Live long enough and the chance is 100%

The film overblows the radiation out of proportions

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>.t Dyatlov's grandson
It's not like there's an exclusion zone where radiation is like 30-40x the background level to this day or anything, you can't even grow food in the zone cause you'd get leukemia.

Better than having chernobyl and fukishima poisoning the land sea and air for hundreds of thousands of years with wasted energy

Thanks

Well what I meant was are they ever going to go past the experimental stage?

Classic /RBMK/

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inkstonenews.com/science/chinas-artificial-sun-about-get-whole-lot-hotter/article/3013521/
Then theres this a chink reactor powered by throwing unborn aborted western white fetueses into the big pot in the middle as their souls fuze together and provide power like a human battery
Ars is nothing to down play it's effects are literally random by nature as it effects everyone differently as your DNA and everything else is changed and mutated by thr radiation sometimes decades after exposure

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Wowowowow

I mean there is an exclusion zone and all, but people live there. They grow food there and don't show adverse effects.

I'm not that dude you replied to who wants to paint it like nothing happened and it was overblown, but still.

youtube.com/watch?v=g77VuLuHNnI

Go to the end, there is an old couple of returnees who lived there during the last 30 years

>muhuh background radiation
You do realize that we have charts about the fatality of ARS? Most people didnt get it outside of few incredibly unlucky sods. Its math, pure math. If we know the radiation level then we can calculate the safe time constraints as done in the show. 90 seconds gives you about 1-2 Grays which has fatality rate of 0–5%

Sure, if you start fucking around the place over longer time then you get increased chance of cancer. Nobody is denying that but the depiction of people dropping like flies is false. Also, Chernobyl is completely capable of sustaining a healthy animal population even with increased radiation so theres that.

Its a shame that people cant check the facts, maths out there

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lol at the nuclear industry now beginning their pro nuclear campaign online

Do they mention having kids since returning?

My city is powered up by one.
Beloyarka-chan is cute, CUTE. Liquid sodium instead of water.

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>old people
Well of course they're fine, the exclusion zone hasn't seen a baby carried to full term in the area for decades, but you look at insects and other wildlife, they have all kinda of strange patterns, tumors, and abnormalities from being bred in areas where the radiation level is so high.

Even the fish look a little odd in the exclusion zone, they're apparently healthy, but I wouldn't eat them.

>Mayak, Techa river
Explosion of container.

>RBMK where they noticed the design flaw in the first place.
Leningard? The malfunction of rods wasn't related to any accident there.

>Russia is even today able to just hide facts.
Not all Russian designs are in Russia.

She kicks her son down a potato cellar...so yeah?

And the divers had children too. As did the other liquidators, although I have neither a source that "only some" "most" "all" or whatever. Just xy number had children.

yeah I just think people who have a basic understanding of biology will be able to easily visualize getting swiss cheesed on a micro level.

It perforates organs muscles cells dna etc everything on an atomic level and then you leak to death over 30 days as ligaments start to crumble and you just fall apart.

they weren't old people back then.

There. Are. No. Mutant. Animals!
Get it in your dense brain. Radiation doesn't just play evolution. Freak animals occur everywhere. In Chernobyl nobody is culling them or predating on them, so they survive. That's all there is to it. Stop believing everything on the internet.

This.
Even (if) nobody in here is a paid shill it's pretty obvious they are useful idiots either way
Talk about a xenon pit we need to purge them slowly for days until they are gone then)l slowly bring our power level back up to over 9000 comrad

Funny thing is though if everyone had solar + decent battery storage + grid connectivity we would basically have free power with minimal need for nuclear/coal and other hazardous power generators at least for powering your average home.
Bigger power users like factories and shit would even benifit from lower power costs from a relatively small system too but nobody really wants to outlay the initial cost.
Thank fuck power is relatively cheap in my state (aus) at least compared to the rest who unregulated and or fell for the green only meme power instead of a more interconnected approach

>first Irish nuclear reactor

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lithium is much more dangerous than any nuclear waste.

Solar causes 4 times as many deaths as nuclear.
That has nothing to do with shilling or lobbying for the nuclear industry, it's just plain facts.

>corium leaked into the ocean where it is safely contained
you sir are retarded
The fact is that despite all the fancy safety features a very serious disaster still happened.
Yeah, and Chernobyl has 31 casualties right.

Well you can live there cause I won't, imagine if humans started building shit decades later and started kicking up dust, you'd get alpha particulate in your lungs and get cancer.

The area is radioactive as hell, you look ad bionerd23's channel, there's still spots on equipment and in the hospital basement with the clothes where it's still extremely contaminated.

As I said we need better batteries I am well aware how fucked current li type batteries are from my seething hatred of Tesla and ev misconceptions in general about (green) power
Sure its better initially to generate via solar/wind/tidal/dam/geo etc but storing it offpeak is costly and batteries are worse for the environment than people realise especially when manufacturing/disposing them
Fucking faggot Tesla s o y panel owners don't even wunna think about how much literal fuel is wasted on creating and ((recycling)) their precious batteries

>Beloyarka-chan is cute, CUTE.
Nah, they even call this slut a fast breeder, lmao

>Implying it's not a meme reactor with the 4chin logo

Chernobyl had 51 immediate casualties and 60.000 later deaths, all of which were liquidators

Fukushima had no deaths linked to radiation or any fallout. 1500 people died because of mass hysteria caused by the evacuation.

Stop spreading bullshit.

I already explained the corium containment in the ocean multiple times, not doing it again.

Is it weird that I'm reading this in Dyatlov's voice?

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Yea Forums reactor would not even need uranium, just a few anons arguing. There is a problem of positive void coefficient though

Elon Musk at least delivered working solutions as opposed to morons like you that are afraid of hard science and are waiting for Avatar-level materials like unobtainium that will suddenly solve all of your problems without any adverse effects.

Hydro + Geothermal + Nuclear + Wind + tidal are the future. Not one of them exclusively, I am well aware of that, but only nuclear needs heavy lobbying and education of the masses to bash it in their heads that it is safe, feasible and necessary to bring the constant flow of energy that none of the others, except hydro, can deliver.

Posting the rolls, check' em and "post this ITT so this comes to you" might distract them and slow down the reaction. Pressing AZ-5 archives the thread.

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>That has nothing to do with shilling or lobbying for the nuclear industry,
yeah ok

>Elon musk
Oh yeah the guy who has no ulterior motives and shady strange shit he's a little angel just doing stuff for free because he loves humanity what a based guy
Have you seen battery fires/explosions?
Supercells like what yes creating literally go up like a bomb especially in my country which is dry and hot as fuck with limited water and prone to fires
Kys Tesla Elon dicksucker

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Yes. Let's start with one.

Why is Vasily Ignatenko buried in concrete in a coffin made of Zinc?

According to Vyacheslav Grishin of the Chernobyl Union, the main organization of liquidators, "25,000 of the Russian liquidators are dead and 70,000 disabled, about the same in Ukraine, and 10,000 dead in Belarus and 25,000 disabled", which makes a total of 60,000 dead (10% of the 600,000 liquidators) and 165,000 disabled.[6]
lemonde.fr/planete/article/2006/04/07/les-chiffres-de-l-onu-sur-les-victimes-de-tchernobyl-auraient-ete-sous-estimes_759215_3244.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_liquidators

Two TEPCO employees died of injuries from the earthquake, and six others received radiation exposure above the lifetime limit.[9] As of September 2018, one cancer fatality had resulted in a financial settlement to the family of a former station workman.[4][16] A report by the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation[17] and World Health Organization projected no increase in miscarriages, stillbirths or physical and mental disorders in babies born after the accident.[18] More than 171,000 evacuees were still unable to return home as of March 2016.[9] An estimated 1,600 deaths are believed to have occurred, primarily among elderly who had lived in nursing homes, due to poor evacuation conditions.[19][20]

Stop embarrassing yourself on the internet.

Because it looks aesthetic as fuck
I know why but educate that dumb fuck if you cbf wasting your time user

Lifting GR15 to speed up the reaction

tell me how a BWR reactor explodes