>The Last Jedi had its world premiere at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles on December 9, 2017, and was released in the United States on December 15, 2017. It grossed over $1.3 billion worldwide, becoming the highest-grossing film of 2017, the seventh-highest-ever grossing film in North America and the ninth-highest-grossing film of all time during its theatrical run. It is also the second-highest-grossing film of the Star Wars franchise, and turned a net profit of over $417 million. The film received positive reviews, with praise for its ensemble cast, musical score, visual effects, action sequences and emotional weight.[5][6][7][8] The film received four nominations at the 90th Academy Awards, including Best Original Score and Best Visual Effects, as well two nominations at the 71st British Academy Film Awards.
Are you still seething? Or can we finally admit that it was a decent movie and probably (unironically) one of the better SW films?
How angry does this financial success make you?
how long did you spend on this one?
With one hand, jerked off with my primary.
>It made money, that means it's good!
>being one of the highest grossing films of all time and being a complete net positive for the studio, isn't a metric you can use AT ALL for a film or its quality, you just can't. Since I have to keep this autismo narrative that TLJ is "divisive" due to my youtube e-celeb faggot doesn't like it or the tit milk scene
>people buy dozens of tickets to a bad movie
I forgot that The Phantom Menace had repeat ticket sales right after it's opening weekend, huh?
It was a Star Wars movie. It was always going to make money on brand-name recognition alone.
Again, is your dumb ass equating money with actual quality?
Are you also convinced that the Twilight movies and Adam Sandler budget comedies are well-made movies? Because those were also a net positive for the studio.
Would your absolutist argument be that you can't use financial success in any way to measure a film? Is that the hill to die on when a movie you don't like makes more money than virtually 90 percent of all films in the medium?
The only thing Yea Forums likes is films that flop
Justin Beiber is one of the highest earning musicians of all time, thereby rendering him one of the best musicians.
>Justin Beiber is one of the highest earning musicians of all time
Except he isn't you fucking faggot. Try again.
Donald Trump is the richest president of all time therefore he is the best president.
That's not even the same logical argument.
I feel like I’m in a YouTube comment section in 2009.
>comparing a multi-billion dollar hit to Twilight
If the entire market is designed to return a profit, then the only golden rule of mass produced cinema is a margin. So therefore, TLJ is one of the most significant films ever made.
How does that make you feel? Commie?
>>being one of the highest grossing films of all time and being a complete net positive for the studio, isn't a metric you can use AT ALL for a film or its quality, you just can't.
correct. is this confusing for you in some way, sweetheart?
>this is how Collider fags are coping
>spamming this shit and hoping someone here will get mad
LMAO
Your boy Kristian got humilialiated and there is nothing you can do about it.
Please explain the aspie logic behind the idea that you can't measure a film's success in any meaningful way?
ok but that means nothing by your own admittance of significance being synonymous with revenue.
I literally have no clue what you're talking about and I don't watch Collider videos. I saw TLJ in theaters, didn't hate it, saw the complete spergfit that this board threw and now that we have some distance, I just want an honest assessment; in admitting it wasn't that bad.
you measure a film's success by its box office revenue and popularity, which has nothing to do with its actual quality. millions of flies and shit and so on
>synonymous
Never said it was, I said you can't rule it out as a metric for success. You're the one pretending you have to ignore a film's monetary gain when that's the whole fucking point of a product.
Look, you hate capitalism tranny. That's fine.
no. it was shit.
explain to me why you think a film's quality is absolutely not connected to it's popularity or revenue stream? Since that's the absolute faggot argument you are making.
Are you under the assumption that Twilight would ever reach the same returns financially? Because they didn't, not even close.
How can be one user so fucking based
being financially successful and being good are two different things
>Yea Forums told me it was shit
This is gonna make you seethe, but it was the only SW film in almost 3 decades that practiced what the Jedi preached in the OT. I'm not even memeing, that's true.
billions of flies and shit
...to you, yet you haven't explained why. Why is that an axiom to you? In your black/white brain of a teenager?
>but it was the only SW film in almost 3 decades that practiced what the Jedi preached in the OT
have sex
>700M less than TFA
yikes
So is the argument that you don't want auteur films to be successful and watched by a lot of people? Do you wear a trilby?
see
>700 million less than the 4th highest grossing film of all time
>literally a net profit of over 400 million dollars
which is true. I'm sorry it wasn't Luke fanfiction that you wrote.
Funny how that isn't an argument though? I just want you to admit that you aren't rational about this movie, that's all.
Just be honest. The only real low point of the film was the casino planet. What they did with Luke was fine, the Resistance shit was fine. The entire movie was alright.
>defending a 30% drop
big yikes tbqh
i didnt even watch the film im just here to dab on disney shills. onions wars is gay and cringe
>a 30 percent drop from an exception to the rule
It would be an argument if TFA was a moderate success and not an OUTLIER success due to it being "the newest Star Wars film in (insert how many years) like TPM. That's not a norm though. TLJ still made a net profit of over 400 million, which sequel films never do.
You're level of cope is obvious. I hope the last Sequel film has an actual liberal tranny alien just to see the threads. Remember when you thought R1 was going to make fun of Trump? And you fell for it like the retard you are?
Good times.
>you moderately like a thing, you must be a shill.
It made 700 million less then episode 7. That is a financial loss you retard because they had projections it would make as much, if not more.
He is wearing a Che Guevara knock off t-shirt. Can you imagine this goober fighting in a guerrilla war?
>ANTIFA are super violent and it's justified to run them over in my car because I feel threatened by landwhales
>LIKE CAN YOU IMAGINE THIS GOOBER IN A GUERILLA WAR HEEHEE
rent free in your head
there has never been a single person in the history of Yea Forums who has shared a moderately positive opinion of anything disney related and not been a shill. i'm sorry but i just don't believe you're the first
>it's a financial loss because I said so
Projections were literally not far off. All sequels have dropoffs, this not only survived a dropoff but maintained revenue and is still on the list of highest grossing films.
If you don't understand finance enough to get long-game Disney IP plans, then you must have a literal tism' fit that they spent all that money on Galaxy's Edge. But then again, you people don't understand long-term finance plans at all. Even if it dropped off, both are still on the same list of the highest grossing films of all time.
The fact that they are going to make their entire investment back in a single year now is enough to prove how none of you have any real clue what you are talking about.
>there has never been a single person in the history of Yea Forums who has shared a moderately positive opinion of anything disney related and not been a shill
Do you honestly believe that? Because this would make you clinically insane or retarded.
If you said it, how is it "rent free"?
>nobody in over a decade, has ever not been a shill and enjoyed Disney films
I didn't say shit about the alt-right you obsessed freak
>It grossed over $1.3 billion worldwide!
And the buyer's remorse was so bad it killed the franchise lol
Enjoy your SW thread tranny OP
>can you imagine these che guevera types in actual combat haha I'm not implying that the right-wing would win ;) not a dogwhistle at all!
A bit upset. I didn't like the movie that much.
correct
He's in the top 20 brainlet.
rent free
>And the buyer's remorse was so bad it killed the franchise lol
I'll screencap this when Skywalker makes 3 billion. :)
Oh look. more retard logic. Let me try:
the Billboard 100 music albums every year eclipse all other music in sales and reviews by consumers. therefore it is "decent" and "probably (unironic)" some of the better music out there.
>Infinity War and Endgame are terrible and you only liked them if you were a paid shill
>this movie is designed as a product to make a lot of money
>it's retard logic to say that it's successful because it was designed that way
SEEETHEEEEE
Its on par with Transformers 5.
Its a trash movie. New wars has very similar things used from the original and lines that also sound similar to the average pleb but are truly devoid of any of the real starwars ethos. Its also an empty universe that feels more like a play in 7 and 8.
Original starwars is about hope and redemption. What exactly is Obiwans point in 1 through 6 vs 1 through 9. One he watches his apprentice turn evil and watches his son so that his son may one day also be part of the prophesy. Vader was never supposed to have children. Luke was an opportunity for another reset. Obiwan then died in front of Luke, like Qui gon did for him. Giving Luke the life experiences necessary to make a choice different than his father. OR he trains a guy who gets one off lucky and is a failure that lets the order die.
For similar but empty dialogue, Snoke says shit like he wants to "destroy all hope". Why? To sound like the Emperor without actually saying anything coherent.
There are no vibrant interactions with aliens. There are few rebels and new empire, making the world empty like a play put to film.
But you are the one talking?
based copypasta!
Then why did End Game make more then Infinity War you stupid cunt.
Because it was the "end" of a 10 year long movie buildup? Technically, Infinity War is the direct sequel to Ultron.
>Projections were literally not far off
>1.9B vs 1.3B is not far.
>All sequels have dropoffs
Except they don't. MCU proves this.
Why are shills so retarded?
>If you don't understand finance enough to get long-game Disney IP plans,
But then again, you people don't understand long-term finance plans at all.
>5 months later Solo bombs after TLJ backlash
>Why are shills so retarded?
Because they are payed by the Mouse to shill here.
Then it means he's a good musician. Just like TLJ is a good movie. Have sex, incel.
>muh backlash
>literally the only net loss of all the new Star Wars films
You're just repeating points you heard because you can't think of yourself. If you uniroincally think Skywalker isn't going to break the bank, then you're beyond stupid. Solo was a bad film that nobody wanted. It had very little to do with TLJ.
You can keep pretending I guess?
>SHILLS REEEEEE
You're comparing two different franchises with two different strategies. Do you really think that if anyone has virtually a single positive thing to say about these movies, that they are paid shills? I wish, that sounds like a good career.
Would you cry if you found out that I get paid to have an opinion on 4channel? I never understood this argument. Wouldn't the typical neet love to make money doing minimum work? It's basically a handout, like you want.
>just because TLJ made people hate disneywars doesn't mean it caused a disneywars flop few months later
>I'm totally not retarded and my mom dind't use to dring heavily while pregnant. I swear!
Selling drugs has made more money than Starwars ever will. So what if a piece of shit movie sold to starwars addicts made tons of money.
>Would you cry if you found out that I get paid to have an opinion on 4channel? I never understood this argument. Wouldn't the typical neet love to make money doing minimum work? It's basically a handout, like you want.
OK, that's actually a solid 8/10.
Except this narrative isn't backed by literally any fucking number since TLJ is not overtly seen as negative anywhere that matters. You people have literally always drastically overplayed how "hated" this movie is. You do realize that, right?
8/10 what? bait? I'm being serious.
Not you're down to 4/10. Don't do that.
Watch Ep IX kill it in box office, critics score AND this time, audience score too since incels can't review bomb RT anymore and youtube cracked down on fake outrage channels like (example: related).
>assmad incels brigade it so it's bad
it was a critical and financial success. this is fact.
I guess TLJ won?
>financial success
>costs 300 mil to produce
>hundreds of million marketing costs
>a few more millions for the actor
>millions to cinemas etc
I can guarantue you that stupid shit like "paranormal activity" had more financial success than this piece of shit movie did.
You're just to young or poor to understand money
>>hundreds of million marketing costs
literally a Yea Forums meme, dumbfag. Imagine actually thinking that Disney isn't making money.
>You're just to young or poor to understand money
>But Disney is retarded and didn't make any money on Star Wars
this level of cope.
most people are simple - they see star wars, they watch. financial and critical success don't mean anything anymore. it's a strategy of scorched earth. pick established IP people are nostalgic for , subvert it and run it to the ground with themes of empowerment. same is happening with comic books and basically all media. those people don't create, they can only destroy. with sw it takes longer because the ip is so fucking huge and in the process each new movie makes billions.
Almost 70% box office drop from first weekend. Even for a front-loaded release, that's a LOT of negative word-of-mouth.
35% drop from the previous movie.
Audiences failed to show up for Solo - it would have been an only modest success without the cost of the re-shoots. But even in original form, it might have been hard to justify a sequel.
I still think Episode IX will make money in the box office, but the merchandising is dead. Nobody wants to buy toys of uninteresting characters.
Maybe the theme park and The Mandalorian show will save Star Wars from obscurity. They should frankly stop making theatrical SW releases for at least 5 years.
>just regurgitated Yea Forums pasta about "muh 35 percent"
This was already explained, retardo.
>empowerment is bad, it's actually a ploy to destroy Star Wars
Being a /pol/nigger must be hard.
Have a look at TLJ's opening weekend. It's almost as good as TFA's. And I guarantee that re-watchers would have brought it even higher if they thought the movie was good - because there were plenty of spare seats with all those parallel screenings.
The negatives here are in the marketing expenses and the merchandising. Companies like Hasbro are the ones taking the big losses here, and they're likely not going to agree to deals as favorable to Lucasfilm next time around. Since these movies (both Marvel and Star Wars) are marketed more heavily than other movies, there are also hidden expenses here: Consider all the time and money used both for traditional advertising, and time wasted by the creatives pushing the movie on social media when they really should have been working on something else.
Your trilogy is cancelled, Rian. Seethe harder. lmao
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damn ryan, is your new sw trilogy in trouble?
>MUH MARKETING ARRRHHHHHEE!!!!
>it literally isn't
Wow. Seething this hard must be bad for your health.
>BO numbers matter when it benefit my "arguments"
>failed to meet expectations(only 1.3 billion of the 1.9 Disney wanted)
>beaten by Black Panther at the boxoffice(a new IP, proving to everyone that the Star Wars brand has lost power)
>so divisive within the fandom that caused Solo to become the first Star Wars flop
>new characters don't sell toys( the real moneymaker of the franchise)
You should ask how angry are the Disney shareholders. They were lucky to have the MCU to protect themselves, otherwise they would have wasted 4 billion only to kill the IP and become the biggest joke of the industry.
Somebody tell him...
You tell me, since you just adopt Yea Forums arguments that you do very little cursory research on to suit your agenda.
Why can't you accept that Solo was just a bad movie?
>1.3 billion "fails" to meet expectations
Literally show me from where you thought that they were expecting 1.9 billion you dense faggot. I want you to just admit that you are falling for arguments you never researched.
That reminds me, would Disney have made more money by just leaving those billions invested in the stock market? In addition to the purchase from Lucas, they've spent money on making and marketing the movies, and even those big box office takes haven't recouped that yet, right?
Supposedly, selling prequel and Clone Wars related merch has made them at least some money, but for the time being they don't even have the broadcast rights to the original trilogy movies.
Galaxy's Edge is really what will take the Star Wars investment into the black, isn't it? Or if IX retcons IIX enough to end the new divide.
Why can't you get it through your aspie fucking heads that they aren't losing money on Star Wars at all? Galaxy's Edge is literally printing money so far.
Disney Parks have had Star Wars attractions in them before, but back then they just licensed it from Lucas instead of buying the whole IP. In retrospect, that might have been a better financial deal this time too. They'd get to keep less of the earnings, but they'd also kept those billions working on something else.
I'm trying to get you to understand that the whole "Didney is losing gorbillions on Star Wars" is a myth.
You forgot to add that because of TLJ and Solo, some studios are no longer afraid of putting their new movies in the same period of Star Wars movies. Both Jumanji 3 and Aquaman 2 will go respectivey against episode 9 and the first movie of the D&D trilogy and if they succeed then every studio will try to eat as much as possible from the Star Wars corpse
Not angry at all. I don't care about Disney SW.
None of this makes any coherent sense.
>the negative 700 is a myth
>the nobody is buying the toys is a myth
>the no ryan trilogy is a myth
everything is a myth pushed by putin, maduro and the nazis
nice arguments
It literally is. Cope harder, Disneynigger.
I'm not saying that, necessarily. I don't have their contracts to study in detail. I'm saying that if they'd invested 4 billion in the stock market in November 2012, instead of buying Star Wars, they'd have 8.2 billion dollars today. After capital gains taxes.
Granted, buying Star Wars has higher potential returns, but also higher risk. As we've seen.
Prepare for Jumani and Aquaman to be attacked something fierce by the usual suspects.
>the negative 700 is a myth
yes. That is. The film was statistically a net positive of 400 million dollars based on budget costs. No amount of your crying changes that.
No one is factoring in the opportunity cost of Disney not having that 4 billion invested since giving it to Lucas. That money would have been earning at least 5% (200 million) per year. That's a billion dollars so far.
Disney hast netted one billion over all their SW movies, so they are now at break-even. They still need to make another 200 million every year to prevent going in the hole. If ep9 flops, Disney will never recover their investment... not that they really give a shit, anyway.
>DISNEY WILL NEVER RECOVER, IT'S OVER FOR SURE
None of you have literally any idea how global finance fucking works, it's cringe. Disney is close to making their entire investment back already and you don't even understand how.
>at least 5%
Yes, about 12% in a diversified S&P 500 portfolio, but of course a 5% growth in bonds or interest is a more conservative investment that's less likely to go down in case of macroeconomic issues.
This is how this shit works. You can't unbuy a ticket to a movie after you realize it sucks, only learn from your mistake for next time instead. With that being the case, the proof that people hated TLJ was in the box office return for Solo.
The entire movie industry these days is built on sequels. Say what you want about Force Awakens but it delivered what it promised: recapturing and reminding you, the viewer, of A New Hope. The reason Last Jedi made so much fucking money was off the back of goodwill from TFA. When Rise of Skywalker's box office numbers come out we'll see what the actual damage (or success who knows) of the Last Jedi was. Anyway who cares if it made money, what matters at the end of the day is whether a film stands the test of time and we're nowhere near close to figuring that out. Also The Last Jedi kinda sucked but that goes without saying.
>the proof that people hated TLJ was in the box office return for Solo.
That's literally not an argument. Why do you keep trying to make this an argument?
>made money it's good
Can't think of a more memable bait post. Good job. Just in case you're even somewhat sincere though, TLJ and TFA are both complete trash and people that like them should be hit over the head.
I hate TLJ as much as anyone but these arguments are stupid. Disney doesn't just make money selling tickets or discs. There are beach towels, shirts, toys, they get a chunk of whatever shit sales EA is making on the games. They've more than cleared profit at this point. You aren't even factoring in the uptick in tourism to Land/World. That 4 billion came back no later than TLJ release window and we haven't even hit the shows, more games, more merch. It's not wasted money because they've already earned it back.
>4 billion for the IP
>around 2 billion for Galaxy Edge and other parks related to SW
>around 1 billion for the budget and marketing of all the movies released so far(these movies don't materialize themselves from nothing and let's remember that Solo lost them around 100 million)
>profit from the movies, toys and videogames should have given them around 2 billion on the initial investment so far
>Galaxy Edge will eventually become profitable, but it will take a few years
They haven't lost gorbillions, but they are currently around 3/4 billion in the red for this investment, so unless episode 9 beat Avatar they won't manage to make their money back within the ideal time period
Disney has intentionally fractured the fanbase. They're not on the verge to do anything profitable with SW. Maybe they can Jew the numbers and make the losses make sense, and also do some laundering. They could also be trying to devalue the company for a future takeover.
It doesn't matter, though. 4 billion is no sweat either way. They got their SJW message out and the shareholders aren't enraged. Everyone keeps their jobs.
Yea Forums just arbitrarily decides the success of a movie.
It's not based on anything. It's basically "this movie is succees because I said so" and vice versa "this movie Is a failure because I said so"
Movies are only a fraction of Disney's revenue. They make way way way way more from their media like ESPN for example. So it's always funny how this board makes threads like oh no no no mary floppins disney is finished
>hundreds of million marketing costs
source?
>a few more millions for the actor
actor pay is included in the production budget you retard
We'd need to see those licensing contract to determine that, though. Usually there's a flat fee, and some per-unit cost. If Lucasfilm still made their own video games and merchendize, they would likely assume a larger part of the risk that the product would sell. But Lucasfilm still retains quite a bit of control over which products go out on the shelves, so it's likley not like Hasbro paid them gorillions and get to flood the market with only Luke Skywalker and Boba Fett toys, even if they had wanted to. Disney/Lucasfilm still deicdes what characters they're going to make toys out of.
As for EA, they probably have more freedom than Hasbro et.al to make whatever games they want, and Lucasfilm/Disney only has final approval. That also means EA probably gets to keep a higher percentage of the gross sales than what the other licensees do.
Bob Iger is rumored to run for public office soon too. If so it's all part of his pre-election image building, and as long as the mutual fund managers don't complain about their investors' money being used for that - he's home free.
>tfw anti-disney incels have to delude themselves and escape reality to cope
investment, not incelment
>actor pay is included in the production budget you retard
You're right about this part. Most of the actors' compensation is in the production budget. For big name actors, they also get a small per mille gross bonus on top of that - but you need to be a big name and/or have a good agent to get that. If you really believe in the movie, you could also take a pay cut against more gross points.
>That's literally not an argument.
Why not?
because he can't understand it you've gotta remember this guy is pretending he liked TLJ and TFA you've gotta make things real slow for him to get it
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youtube.com
>getting upset that papa Disney didn’t give you free tickets to an event
>literally admiring you are a shill that pretends to be a fan
Holy shit, Collider is pathetic!
Yeah, yeah it is.
>being angry because a movie you didn't like made money
Do people really do this?
OK, this was more blatantly transparent than I thought it would be. Horry shitto.
>ill just word things like a retard so i win no matter what
Autism
some people on Yea Forums do, especially If it's a disney movie
Isn't it more like they laugh if it flops? And some other people who laugh if it makes money anyway?
I liked it and I liked the diverse ethnic backgrounds of the cast too.
All this hate just stems from Russian's trying to destabilise Western cinema and make people in the west as miserable as they are and NPCs repeating what they say parrot fashion because they think disliking popular things will make people think they are intelligent.
>It grossed over $1.3 billion worldwide
Not a single dime came from me. Only watched the cam rip kek
>I just want an honest assessment; in admitting it wasn't that bad.
It's the worst film ever made
Well done. 80/100.
We’re not so far from the day people will go to war to defend their right to watch Disney flicks.
>biggest second weekend drop ever
>biggest movie to sequel drop ever
>Solo actually bombed just after that
Hahahah oh no no no!
>27th best selling musician
Oh okay. 27th best musician then?
I haven't even bothered pirating it, yet I still love the fact so many people got to see it, it killed the franchise for good and has caused so much butthurt I don't see any way in which it could be fixed now.
Mark Hamill hated it, OT fans hated it, prequel fans don't know what to make of it, any chance of ignoring it is now gone with Carrie Fisher. Recently Admiral Ackbar came out to say he was also fucking devastated by it.
I remember deciding not to waste money on it when I first saw the Porgs, Disney wasn't even trying to cover up the fact they wanted to sell merch, you can also try and do so by marketing it correctly before it comes out.
Only s oy infused retards still care about the franchise in itself, the rest of people either don't care or are like me, enjoying the fire from afar.
it had 68% second weekend drop, partially because its Sunday fell of Christmas Eve, which isn't exactly prime movie going day
BvS fell 69% for example, Deathly Hallows part 2 fell 72%
>Only s oy infused retards still care about the franchise in itself
Don't forget /reylo/. They care so much about it that they tried to get Adam Driver's wife to commit suicide.
>Disney wasn't even trying to cover up the fact they wanted to sell merch
And they failed cathastrophically LMAO
>omg loook at these billions
Am I supposed to care? It's not my money and I can't spend it.
It dropped over 150 million from one weekend to the next one, the biggest ever recorded. For perspective this drop is almost as big as BvS first weekend gross. That's a lot of people not paying to watch this flaming piece of shit again just like they didn't pay to watch Solo a few months after that
>down over 700 million from TFA
>financial success
Lmao. Good one, shills.
That's a fair point, but if it had good legs, it would have re-gained that when rewatchers and the people who told their families about how great it was came back to watch it in the new year's weekend and first week of the year. Evidently, that didn't happen.
Shippers don't overspend though, and they're an extremely picky crowd, if Reylo doesn't happen in episode IX they'll throw endless tantrums online.
By your logic if a movie opens to 300 million and drops 50% in its second weekend it would have performed worse than a movie that opened to 100 million and dropped the same 50% because it lost more in raw money. That's why you use percentages.
Endgame had 357 million weekend and 57% weekend drop, which is great for such a massive opening, yet it lost 200 million. So by your logic again Endgame is the biggest flop in history.
They should have catered to the Alitafags instead. Those guys literally buy out theaters and vacuum the store shelves of any and all merchandize. Maybe the Mandalorian and Clone Wars stuff will cater to that demographic with more money than sense.
Endgame also made 700 million more than Infinity War ;^)
Not him, but I think you guys are talking about different things: Short-term financial success on the one hand, and how audiences liked the movie and the future of the franchise on the other hand. I think the excess drop movie-top-movie and week-to-weeks shows that something is up.
And Endgame clearly shows that the "sequels always make less money durrr" argument is wrong, especially for a tentpole like a main line Star Wars movie.
Dropping over 60% in Christmas is flop territory fren, also Endgame was one of the most frontloaded movies ever so not the best so not the best choice
>overplayed how hated it is
Holy shit, this level of cope
There's a point where you hit the ceiling and Star Wars did it with TFA. Adjusted it made about a billion domestically, something only movies from the 20th century have done.
TLJ was definitely divisive and made less than it should have, but a drop was inevitable. It doesn't help that Star Wars is virtually dead in Asia, the market that conctantly grows. Instead its popular in Europe which is stagnating.
>popular in Europe
Am Eurofag, AMA. The European movie public is pretty fragmented. I remember that people used to care about Star Wars in my country, but now it seems like Marvel is the big thing. TLJ had an 80% weekend-to-weekend drop in my country, by the way - partly because some popular local language movies dropped it out of theaters; it wasn't even the top grossing movie that year.
>I just want an honest assessment where everyone mindlessly believes whatever I tell them
TLJ haters on suicide watch
In my Balkan shithole TLJ made more than Endgame, TFA was in another league entirely. And even if you look at the big euro countries it's the same there
I'm sorry I disagree, I watched a youtube video called "The Farce Awakens" and now I hate star wars.
It made money. But Disney's earning prospectives were desogmed around it making nearly a billion in profit, not 417 million, so it was likely not viewed as terribly successful in the eyes of the company itself.
You do realize that Disney still hasn't made any money back on Star Wars right? You also do realize that you have to share a cut of the profits with the theaters and the people who worked on the movie right?
This was true throughout, mostly. People rushed out to see it, so it made a lot of early money. But it wasn't well recieved by audiences. And Rian Johnson being a retarded baby who lashed out everyone who criticized him hurt their PR badly.
>4 billion spent on the rights
>2 billion on the theme park rides
>millions on actors, marketing, sets ect.
>theaters get a cut of the movie
this ain't adding up chief
Tron died for this shit
It adds up if the companies you're paying are also owned by you. This isn't true in this case, of course, but it is true in some other productions.
Not even TFA made a billion in profit. It made 780 million
THIS.
also /thread cyкa блять
Last money they'll make.
Don't worry. Despite the protestations that this is all "russian bots" or whatever, they are very well aware of what's going on.
Episode IX is likely going to double down on ReyLo stuff, except to subvert it at the last minute (the actors are at least as disgusted by the ReyLo stuff as you and me). And they're going to focus on the TV series, for kids and adults, to actually make bank on Disney+.
You'll have the TLJ-haters proclaiming how everything is right with the world, and sign up to Disney+ because that's the true future of Star Wars.
>I have no argument so I'll just call him a retard and autist to win
No.
Don't forget
>incel
>spic
>pedo
etc. if you don't like every single movie Disney has released.
>true future of Star Wars.
nice try RiEn
>if a media megacorporation successfully levies hundreds of millions of dollars to promote a film to as wife an audience as possible that film is good
>astroturf thread
hard pass mate
>Rich elite good.
>Low-status males bad.
I love the new left.
This isn't the new left, though. These are just "woke" opportunists without any principles. Old left and new left roll their eyes at these people, because they know they can't be relied on for shit.