Mark would have probably lived an actual kind of happy...

Mark would have probably lived an actual kind of happy, successful life if he didn't consistently have Jeremy fucking him over every single time he gets a leg up.
I have no idea how people say Mark is worse than Jeremy, it's pretty obvious in the show that Jeremy is basically a sociopath where Mark is just at worse an out of touch Tory twat with social anxiety disorder.

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Mark is worse than Jeremy though. With Jeremy there's thoughts of hesitation and regret. Mark legitimately finds pleasure in fucking people over. Jezz is just stupid about the choices he makes. Mark does them deliberately, hoping it works out.

He has plenty of moments where he genuinely fucks things up catastrophically by himself.

Neither are destined to be happy. They are constant self-saboteurs.

mark isn't a drug addict so it kind of puts him ahead by default

Mark is a faggot even thought Jeremy literally has gay sex

Fuck me the more I watch the Peep show the more depressed I become.

Mark fucks everything up by himself though

What has Jez actually done to fuck over Mark? All of Mark's biggest fuck-ups are of his own creation.

>What has Jez actually done to fuck over Mark?

Pushing Mark to fuck up that talent scout's trailer with him as revenge then blaming him for it

>unemployable like Jezz
>unpopular like Mark

The show can be somewhat upsetting for me

I like the way David Mitchell says "cum"

Mark chooses to have Jeremy in his life. He sabotages himself by his association.

From memory haven't watched it in a long time, fucking up Mark getting in with the University History crowd when Mark's dream is being a History nerd, constantly ratting on Mark to Johnson, fucking Mark over with the history tour guide job, trying to steal Dobby, Smashing up the Caravan and blaming it on Mark destroying Marks management career and relationship with someone that actually brings out the "best" in him.

This is the worst part of Peep Show. I'm basically Mark in many ways, intelligent but massive anxiety disorder and breaks into history bullshit when nervous, but like Jez in that I'm completely unemployable and even when I do get a job, I suck at holding it down due to anxiety and fatigue.
The most depressing part about Peep Show is that they're both more successful than me, I had to move back with my parents in the Burbs, at least they get laid, have their own Apartment and live in London.

TV isn't real user, there's no way those 2 could be that much of losers and sustain their lifestyle for very long irl

>fucking up Mark getting in with the University History crowd when Mark's dream is being a History nerd
Mark was pretending to be a uni student, it would have gone wrong almost immediately even if jez wasn't there

>fucking Mark over with the history tour guide job
He tried to take a wank bullet for Mark, he didn't know Dobby had sorted it

>trying to steal Dobby
fair

>Smashing up the Caravan and blaming it on Mark destroying Marks management career and relationship with someone that actually brings out the "best" in him.
fair, but she was bonkers

Do you unpopular parts of history too, fren?

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He got that perfect book deal from a man he really looked up to and Jez vindictively ruined it for him.

There's loads of times Jez fucks him over, not to say that he doesn't scheme himself.

>I like you, Mark.

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Just like Mark, I usually start talking about Stalingrad, it's my go too history event.

Mark is a coward. That's his downfall.

Adulthood is realising that Super Hans makes more sense

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Eating mummy

Great commentary on the show, thanks.
Massive failure but intelligent? I would take a few minutes looking into a mirror, re-evaluate these disparate ideas. First step is recognising it.

Dobby did nothing wrong.

Was it rape?

*go-to, and stop using too many commas.

Pretty sure the entire point is that they're both as bad each other, hence their codependent relationship

drug user=/=drug addict

living rent free in the flat

he forgot to buy the fucking christmas turkey

>George would have probably lived an actual kind of happy, successful life if he didn't consistently have Lenny fucking him over every single time he gets a leg up.

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This seems backwards. Jeremy doesn't give two fucks about anyone.

Yes, Mark was hesitant to admit it though, the shame of being overpowered by a woman for sex is just too much for him.

>that episode where Jez lets the burglars in because he wants to fuck
Only episode where he is legitimately evil

People like Mark needs people like Jeremy in their lives so they can always have someone to blame, and never see that it is themselves fucking them over. He will never self-reflect and see his own flaws but just be happy living his days blaming everyone else.

Yeah I'll say Jeremy is worse than Marl but they're both pretty self-absorbed.

It varies from funny to depressing depending on the mood I'm in.

You know, the red army shot 16,000 of their own men at Stalingrad

He fucked his sister despite knowing it was wrong. He also ruined Mark's tour guide job (even if it was an accident).

He did buy a turkey, he spent a lot of time researching it online and got a free-range, organic, plump-breasted turkey. It was a christmas joke, Mark.

Fucking a mate's sister is brilliant. The thought processes that Jez goes through are pretty spot on though.

didn't say it was bum rape

Bothers me that every source besides Beevors Stalingrad says executions around Stalingrad happened but were far, far rarer than that. Beevor is just very credulous to any negative claims about the soviets, mixing up real bad stuff they did with nonsense or misrepresenting the frequency of things massively

the more they stay as roommates the more they absorb each others worst traits. mark becomes less ambitious and jez becomes more sociopathic

Jeremy is inconsiderate and selfish, but I don't think he's malicious, unlike mark.