Is there a better movie depicting the horrors of slavery? How white men raped and impregnated black women and castrated black men and so on... To me, as a black man, it's the best movie of the 21 century and maybe ever.
Discuss. I prefer POC voices btw.
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That movie give me my colonizing fetish, curse it
Chicken Run did it better when it was a metaphor for slavery
>movie that shows black protagonist suffer for 2 hours
Pass.
>slave movie
>blacks talk like modern day blacks
>tfw no ebony raceplay gf
>Is there a better movie depicting the horrors of slavery?
The Birth of a Nation because it's actually accurate
yes
pic related
>Fassbender has Jungle Fever
>also has a 10" dick
>plays a violent Plantation Owner who fucks his slave negress
So we can all agree he took on the job to live out his fantasies, right?
Apocalypto
> I prefer POC voices btw.
Literally kill yourself
>Is there a better movie depicting the horrors of slavery?
Meh. There are others that capture the horrors equally well. Really any of the big ones do it well to be honest. Amistad and Sankofa come to mind for me. Hell, even Django Unchained does to an extent.
What '12 Years a Slave' did better than slave movie was show how effective slavery was as a system at what it did; robbing people of their humanity.
Pretty much every other slave movie, for all the horrors they show, are actually stories of resilience/triumph of the human spirit about how black people overcame adversity. 12YaS is the only one I can think of where the bad guy (i.e. slavery) utterly and truly wins. That final line with Solomon meeting his family again after gaining his freedom and apologizing for his appearance because he's had "a difficult time" the last few years is basically a statement about the condition of black America: been through hell and not quite its best because of it.
Have sex.
I WANNA CUM ON LUPITA'S SEXY ASS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH
reminder that he was a worse owner than Fassbender
pure kino
Hard to ever be your “best” when you’re a violent jungle ape with an IQ below 65
I don't remind him at all, elaborate?
>12 Years a Slave
they are always complaining
>not quite its best because of it
found the racism apologist
>POC voices
what does that even mean?
>free black guy gets mistaken for a slave
>has to be a slave for a long time
how is this not a comedy?
>RLM
Found the redditor
>After Solomon Northup is kidnapped by slave traders, he is sold to William Ford, who in his own way takes a liking to Solomon (though he still expects him to work for him). When Solomon works hard and impresses Ford, the latter (who is by now aware that Solomon has musical talents), presents him with a violin as a gift. However, as tensions mount between Solomon and a white hired hand who also works on the plantation, Ford concludes that the only way to keep Solomon "safe" is to re-sell him. Solomon tries in vain to convince William Ford that he is a free man who has been kidnapped and sold into slavery. Ford refuses to believe him (and in fact refuses to even listen to him), and sells him to the more brutal and vicious slave-owner Edwin Epps.
Yes, it's called Mandingo, which was ripped of by Tarantino to make Django.
i fucking had one, and i blew it. my paranoia got the better of me and i convinced myself she was fucking with me so she can call me out on it later so i shut her down. turns out she just genuinely trusted me with her dark (no bun indended :DDD) fantasizing and became down on herself when i backed off. WHY AM I SUCH A FUCKING LOSER, AT LEAST YOU GUYS SIMPLY FAIL UPFRONT TO GET A GF,OR SHE TURNS OUT TO BE A ROASTIE I FOUND SWEET QT AND I STILL DO THE IMPOSSIBLE AND FUCKING BUNGLE THE HIT
sorry for blogging
LOL
>Paul Dano reportedly stayed in character during the filming of 12 Years a Slave. This led to a number of awkward interactions with the predominantly black cast and the film's director, who is also black. According to lead actor Chiwetel Ejiofor, Dano took to calling the black actors "minstrel niggers" and would feign a stereotypical slave accent when conversing with director Steve McQueen, calling him "massa" and "boss nigger".
What was meant by this?
thanks
>white
try again
Confirmed southerner. The only black people that sound like slave niggers are in the south
12 years a slave more like 12+1% hehe amirite
Brutality, violence and misery get confused with history in 12 Years a Slave, British director Steve McQueen’s adaptation of the 1853 American slave narrative by Solomon Northup, who claims that in 1841, away from his home in Saratoga Springs, N.Y., he was kidnapped and taken South where he was sold into hellish servitude and dehumanizing cruelty.
For McQueen, cruelty is the juicy-arty part; it continues the filmmaker’s interest in sado-masochistic display, highlighted in his previous features Hunger and Shame. Brutality is McQueen’s forte. As with his fine-arts background, McQueen’s films resemble museum installations: the stories are always abstracted into a series of shocking, unsettling events. With Northup (played by Chiwetel Ejiofor), McQueen chronicles the conscious sufferance of unrelenting physical and psychological pain. A methodically measured narrative slowly advances through Northup’s years of captivity, showcasing various injustices that drive home the terrors Black Africans experienced in the U.S. during what’s been called “the peculiar institution.”
Depicting slavery as a horror show, McQueen has made the most unpleasant American movie since William Friedkin’s1973 The Exorcist. That’s right, 12 Years a Slave belongs to the torture porn genre with Hostel, The Human Centipede and the Saw franchise but it is being sold (and mistaken) as part of the recent spate of movies that pretend “a conversation about race.” The only conversation this film inspires would contain howls of discomfort.
I wonder if we'll ever have a movie depicting slavery in the Ottoman Empire. They enslaved far more people for a far greater amount of time and yet we hear nothing of it from movies or the tellie.
For commercial distributor Fox Searchlight, 12 Years a Slave appears at an opportune moment when film culture–five years into the Obama administration–indulges stories about Black victimization such as Precious, The Help, The Butler, Fruitvale Station and Blue Caprice. (What promoter Harvey Weinstein has called “The Obama Effect.”) This is not part of social or historical enlightenment–the too-knowing race-hustlers behind 12 Years a Slave, screenwriter John Ridley and historical advisor Henry Louis Gates, are not above profiting from the misfortunes of African-American history as part of their own career advancement.
But McQueen is a different, apolitical, art-minded animal. The sociological aspect of 12 Years a Slave have as little significance for him as the political issues behind IRA prisoner Bobby Sands’ hunger strike amidst prison brutality visualized in Hunger, or the pervy tour of urban “sexual addiction” in Shame. McQueen takes on the slave system’s depravity as proof of human depravity. This is less a drama than an inhumane analysis–like the cross-sectional cut-up of a horse in Damien Hirst’s infamous 1996 museum installation “Some Comfort Gained From the Acceptance of the Inherent Lies in Everything,” because 12 Years of Slave is such a repugnant experience, a sensible viewer might be reasonably suspicious about many of the atrocities shown–or at least scoff at the one-sided masochism: Northup talks about survival but he has no spiritual resource or political drive–the means typically revealed when slave narratives are usually recounted. From Mandingo and Roots to Sankofa, Amistad, Nightjohn and Beloved, the capacity for spiritual sustenance, inherited from the legacy of slavery and survival, was essential (as with Baby Sugg's sermon-in-the-woods in Beloved and John Quincy Adams and Cinque's reference to ancestors in Amistad) in order to verify and make bearable the otherwise dehumanizing tales.
Dano based and redpilled
I unironically agree
It proves the ahistorical ignorance of this era that 12 Years a Slave's constant misery is excused as an acceptable version of the slave experience. McQueen, Ridley and Gates' cast of existential victims won't do. Northup-renamed-Platt and especially the weeping mother Liza (Adepero Oduye) and multiply-abused Patsey (Lupita Nyong'o), are human whipping posts–beaten, humiliated, raped for our delectation just like Hirst's cut-up equine. Hirst knew his culture: Some will no doubt take comfort from McQueen's inherently warped, dishonest, insensitive fiction.
These tortures might satisfy the resentment some Black people feel about slave stories ("It makes me angry"), further aggravating their sense of helplessness, grievance–and martyrdom. It's the flipside of the aberrant warmth some Blacks claim in response to the superficial uplift of The Help and The Butler. And the perversion continues among those whites and non-Blacks who need a shock fest like 12 Years a Slave to rouse them from complacency with American racism and American history. But, as with The Exorcist, there is no victory in filmmaking this merciless. The fact that McQueen's harshness was trending among Festivalgoers (in Toronto, Telluride and New York) suggests that denial still obscures the history of slavery: Northup's travail merely makes it possible for some viewers to feel good about feeling bad (as wags complained about Spielberg's Schindler's List as an "official" Holocaust movie–which very few people wanted to see twice). McQueen's fraudulence further accustoms moviegoers to violence and brutality.
The very artsiness of 12 Years a Slave is part of its offense. The clear, classical imagery embarrasses Quentin Tarantino's attempt at visual poetry in Django Unchained yet this "clarity" (like Hans Zimmer's effective percussion score) is ultimately depressing. McQueen uses that art staple "duration" to prolong North's lynching on tiptoe and later, in endless, tearful anticipation; emphasis on a hot furnace and roiling waves adds nature's discomfort; an ugly close-up of a cotton worm symbolizes drudgery; a slave chant ("Run, Nigger, Run,") contrasts ineffectual Bible-reading; and a shot of North's handwritten plea burns to embers. But good art doesn't work this way. Art elates and edifies–one might even prefer Q.T.'s jokey ridiculousness in Django Unchained, a different kind of sadism.
McQueen's art-world background recalls Peter Greenaway's high-mindedness; he's incapable of Q.T.'s stupid showmanship. (He may simply be blind to American ambivalence about the slave era and might do better focusing on the crimes of British imperialism.) Instead, every character here drags us into assorted sick melancholies–as Northup/Platt, Ejiofor's sensitive manner makes a lousy protagonist; the benevolent intelligence that worked so well for him as the translator in Amistad is too passive here; he succumbs to fate, anguish and torment according to McQueen's pre-ordained pessimism. Michael Fassbender's Edwin Epps, a twisted slaveholder ("a nigger-breaker") isn't a sexy selfish lover as Lee Daniels flirtatiously showed in The Butler; Epps perverts love in his nasty miscegenation with Patsey (whose name should be Pathos).
I’m going to need her name, phone number, and home address.
And Alfre Woodard as a self-aware Black plantation mistress rapidly sinks into unrescuable psychosis. Ironically, Woodard's performance is weird comic relief–a neurotic tribute to Butterfly McQueen's frivolous Hollywood inanity but from a no-fun perspective. By denying Woodard a second appearance, director McQueen proves his insensitivity. He avoids any hopefulness, preferring to emphasize scenes devoted to annihilating Nyong'o's body and soul. Patsey's completely unfathomable longing for death is just art-world cynicism. McQueen's "sympathy" lacks appropriate disgust and outrage but basks in repulsion and pity–including close-up wounds and oblivion. Patsey's pathetic corner-of-the-screen farewell faint is a nihilistic trope. Nothing in The Exorcist was more flagrantly sadistic.
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Some of the most racist people I know are bowled over by this movie. They may have forgotten Roots, never seen Sankofa or Nightjohn, disliked Amistad, dismissed Beloved and even decried the violence in The Passion of the Christ, yet 12 Years a Slave lets them congratulate themselves for "being aghast at slavery." This film has become a new, easy reproof to Holocaust deniers. But remember how in Public Enemy's "Can't Truss It," pop culture's most magnificent account of the Middle Passage, Chuck D warned against the appropriation of historical catastrophe for self-aggrandizement: "The Holocaust /I'm talkin' 'bout the one still goin' on!"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=am9BqZ6eA5c
The egregious inhumanity of 12 Years a Slave (featuring the most mawkish and meaningless fade-out in recent Hollywood history) only serves to perpetuate Hollywood's disenfranchisement of Black people's humanity. Brad Pitt, one of the film's producers, appears in a small role as a helpful pacifist--as if to save face with his real-life multicultural adopted family. But Pitt's good intentions (his character promises "There will be a reckoning") contradict McQueen, Ridley and Gates' self-serving motives. The finite numeral in the title of 12 Years a Slave compliments the fallacy that we look back from a post-racial age, that all is in ascent. But 12 Years a Slave is ultimate proof that Hollywood's respect for Black humanity is in absurd, patronizing, Oscar-winning decline.
Steve McQueen's post-racial art games and taste for cruelty play into cultural chaos. The story in 12 Years a Slave didn't need to be filmed this way and I wish I never saw it.
I hope dey whip dat nigga boi good!
just watch “Goodbye Uncke Tom” you negro pleb
Movie is pretty BASED to be honest. But it is not the type of movie I'd watch more than once.
It's a fantastic movie and story. Despite all the horrific things that happened to him having his freedom ripped away from him, beatings, over worked, torn from is family, spending years fearing for his well being, etc. This was one off the best possible outcomes for a slave. It's pretty fucked up
please someone got to cure my jungle fever
I CANNOT TAKE IT ANYMORE
Soooo.... basically....
>It was icky so I didn't like it, can't we stop talking about slavery already?
but really long and pretentious for no reason.
What a stupid faggot
Maybe in Europe or the ME, but definitely not in America.
He was saying that white liberals are obsessed with slavery and it seems to be the only aspect of black culture/history that they care about.
yikes dude
>slavery
>horrifying
I don't see how white people would be horrified by it.
i got a boner when lupita was getting whipped
#metoo
everybody clap your hands
>white men raped and impregnated black women and castrated black men
Lol what a fucking idiot... Use your brain a little bit... If black men were castrated how were you born? If white people were raping black women why isn't evey one mixed? The truth is healthy people prefer to date/fuck within their own race. That goes for every race. The only reason you see so much "lol blacked" spam all the time is because the vast majority of blacks are unhealthy mentally and feel inferior to whites, so they need to go up the ladder by upgrading their genetics. Most of the times there was race mixing with slaves is because the slave woman herself tried her best to seduce the white master and upgrade her station and that of her children. That is the ugly depressing truth noone will tell you, specially not your ironically cucked "blacked" friends who will never know what is like to be proud of being black and having no sexual interest in white women. If you accept this truth you can become a real man.
Only worthwhile scene in this movie desu
based
Isn't it strange that black people are still around? I mean they were brought here as slaves. Slavery ended. And they're still here.
How? And why?
>How white men raped and impregnated black women
G-go on...
Are you really denying the history of sexual abuse between slaves and slave owners?
all slave importing companies were jewish
90% of slave owners were jewish
you thought she was going "shame" you by going public with how you like to tie her up and face fuck while calling her a slave girl?
what are you retarded?
s-stop it, w-we do not speak about it, how we would scream at our black slaveles demanding her to undress, entering her while she's crying and begging us to s-stop us pounding h-her pusey...
that's not the right board for that
DO STOP THAT AROUSING FANTASY!
shut up goy, just feel guilty already
Why yes, I enjoy watching niggers raped and castrated too.
DubIOS!
I was in SF when I saw it. I walked out of the theater and seeing the lobby packed full of blacks and whites all just kind of milling around like it was nothing special was really profound.
Chiwetel needs to be in every movie.
American Niggers are fucking retarded.
The British, Spaniards and Portuguese where the one that enslaved them and brought them here in America while the White Americans were the ones that abolished slavery and gave them right.
But guess who are the ones blamed on?
Well the story is a complete fiction, but don’t let that get in the way of a good propaganda piece.
fuck niggers
It's a fucking shame (heh) that this is a troll thread because 12YAS is one of the greatest kino of the decade.
It's based on an autobiography
I'd give everything to fuck a negress, JC I'd sell my family to breed one!
It's very interesting that murican slaves are portrait as smart, intelligent nice looking mulaltos with slightly Caucasian features while the niggers brought to south were actually ugly savages without any knowledge or history.
Wtf the button on his jacket flips when he walks. I don’t think this is a proper walk cycle at all! It’s just a lazily edited flip!
slaves had it good, no one denies this
Dummy.
You have no evidence for it. Maybe there was the occasional rape here and there but trying to pretend like a 0,001% of cases somehow constitutes the norm is ridiculous. It only stems from your gibs mentality that you were programmed into, since whites will gib you stuff if you play the victim card hard enough. That's going to change soon. My advice: stop being a rat and start being a man.
Empathy you fucking incel
I know 99% of TV lacks this but normal people actually feel for other living creatures.
Because they were the original slave owners and secretly fantasize about it. Left were the original KKK and had senators that were KKK members. The left used to be so based, where did it all go wrong?
Damn if I literally owned a hot black woman I'd fuck her all the time
Wouldn't you?
By Moses, I wish I'd be a frog
Simply classic
If you had actual empathy for black people you would want them sent back to where they came from so they could evolve their own culture. Or at the very least reform the public schools that institutionalize their infantilization and forced birth control until being able to prove ability to raise a child.
But you don't actually care about black people, you just want to gain virtue points to show off to your fellow mostly white social network.
No I don't feel attracted to blacks at all
Ick will do ma nu inne Negerschlonze reinpozzen
no you would not
I don't have the hots for black people specifically either but a pussy is a pussy. They didn't even have proper porn back then, I'd be desperate as shit.
Black people dont browse Yea Forums
yes they do
>shelter
>food
>purpose
>allowed to socialize with each other
>can have children
>allowed to express own culture through song
>don't have to fend for life against lions and hippos
>stable society free of marauding warlords
Literally what the FUCK was the problem? Shit man, American slavery seems like a gigantic improvement in quality of life compared to "free" life in Africa
u wish whyt boi
A completely fictional autobiography written by vested interests.
Working all day for no pay and no vacation and can't read books either
y fucking COCK
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literally like 5% of freed black women interviewed at the time self-reported even sexual relations with white men never mind rape
even with intense progressive conditioning, white men instinctively know to avoid niggresses. yeah, she might have a fat ass and it's find to say you did it, but think of how hideous and retarded your kids will be. you'll pump-n-dump if you can for sure bail, but only a minority of whites with a iq above 90 would willingly breed one if he has to stick around
shit, not even black men wanna touch that
They had brothels and shit like that. If you own slaves you're rich and you can afford better than fucking a stinking negress that btw won't look anything like those photos you're posting, she would look something more like this.
It's truly a pity that so many people have been conditioned into suppressing their natural desires and hating their own families to the point where they genuinely feel sexual attraction for other races.
We wiz Dragonborn
You know what, prison doesn't sound so bad either now that you mention it.
claiming superior slavefu
Why the fuck would I fuck my own family
And brothels were typically in cities, not near plantations.
>I prefer POC voices btw.
Pajeet here. Loved it when nigger got ripped by dogs.
How is she gonna get fat? You literally own her. Just make her lose weight you dummy.
You dun goofed. I banged this black chick from Philly, called her my African tribal whore and everything. She actually flew all the way to my country just so we could raceplay.
I'm also Asian :DDDD
If whites are so bad, why dont you go back to Africa?
You feel sexually attracted to people who resemble the traits of your family, whom you love. Jews (yes pornhub is owned by jews look it up) have perverted this with disgusting incest porn which noone is really into. For example a healthy girl in a healthy family will look up to her father and admire certain traits of his and when she finds a male that has similar traits (not necessarily physical) she will feel love for him. In order for someone to racemix they have to hate their family and themselves so much that they yearn for the opposite of it, a different race. This is very basic psychology. There is a reason black people smell weird, it's your own essence telling you you were not made for eachother.
Based and normalpilled.
So who were the other 21% of slave owners?
This is how you catch bullshit. So the other 21% of slave owners were what the chinese? Lmao. Fucking drumpftards.
>the most obvious bait in the history of Yea Forums(nel)
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They were banging the young teen slaves not those old ladies.
>nobody is into incest porn it’s just a Jewish psyop
I hate to tell you this user but whether or not the Jews are behind this porn (I won’t deny it), people are getting off to incestuous fantasies
en.wikipedia.org
Over 50% of african americans have european descent, almost exclusively from patrilineal descent
The modern day black exists because of slave owners having black mistresses
>other living creatures
Lol well at least you didn't claim blacks were humans, that would have been beyond the pale
Blacks literally aren't human
No post has ever been more underrated than this one
Explain how they aren’t biologically human
Gone with the Wind
Birth of a Nation
>To me, as a black man, it's the best movie of the 21 century and maybe ever.
So you only like a mediocre movie because it's "fucks whipypo" and is about the horrors of slavery?
This is why no one goes to see black films.
Not really, people click the video regardless of the title because the like what they see. It's just jews pushing for this crap trying to normalize it.
>To me, as a black man
I came o this thread to call you a nigger. I assume this is what you wanted?
>white men did slavery
>not the jews who were the captains of the jewish owned ships. Ignoring that 30% of jews were slave owners while only 1% of whites were etc
>ignoring the fact that blacks sold BLACKS into slavery, the primary way of getting black slaves was blacks raiding a nearby village and capturing and raping and stealing then selling the slaves to jews.
>Ignoring the fact that BLACKS and ARABS were slaving LONG before whites had visited africa,
>Ignoring the BARBARY slave trade and the other trades like it where almost 2 million european men women and children were sold into slavery by blacks and mainly arabs
But no lets just go with DUH WHITE MEN EBIL when whites are the only race in the world to fight WARS to END slavery.
At least most of Yea Forums is based and redpilled
>Reddit spacing
>Larping as black
>Praising film that makes white people look bad
Absolutely brilliant. Well done user
>tfw no qt ebony slave wife
What were his intentions?
Dieudo?
>brother has a black wife and kid
>I still haven't found my African Queen to BLEACH
>mfw