/trek/ PRIDE edition
Wait, he is a fag? Or is he just triggering /pol/tards?
the latter
Why does Data have a penis
tick tock
Yes, the imagine is real.
He’s straight but i believe he has close gay friends like Ian Mckellen
For better to pleasure Geordi with.
Mommy
Because his designer wanted to watch him fuck things, obviously.
I thought he was open about it
Stewart groped me at a trek convention in 2002
I've been going to 1701 for years and every single time I open the tab there's always THAT guy making cringe comments over and over. It's like he's an alien entity that has power over the mods and they're afraid of him or something. Last time I was there he was literally making shitting sounds and adding bizarre commentary from the episode being shown. Don't get me started on the in-jokes these people have, calling keiko cakehole and changing the cast's names and whatever. I honestly couldn't give a shit about any of it up until I had to endure what was the end of every couple of episodes where they shoehorn some heavily edited video their local tranny "musician" made with absolutely TERRIBLE music, it's like breakbeat but made by someone with no skill or training, 4minutes+ of this shit the fucking cringe man, and they have multiple videos of this shit going on. At least in the past you could just go through the list they had on display and watch whatever ep you wanted while the group watched VOYAGER but they even hid that the absolute fucks. Don't even bother to want to watch some trek on the weekend there because it's movie weekend, or MOOBIES like these dweebs like to call it. Last time I saw them actually stream a trek movie was the first time these fucks shoehorned this shit as an excuse to watch movies aka fucking forever ago. And you can't even try to connect with these people because you're basically held hostage to sit and listen to them drone on about unfunny stupid shit 90% of the time, their daily boring routine lives or their shitty jobs for hours and hours. Absolutely horrible congregation of cringe.
when will gay nigger be aloud to fuck children buttholes in space, we can only hope the future will be more accepting
Someone post the pasta of Berman yelling at Ira over loving fags
imagine this gay bald fag taking it up the ass
>Picard? Never heard of him.
fuck namefags for ruining this once great general
Suicide, trip.
This is on topic because it's an episode about gender confusion and suicide.
why would you start /trek/ with a political bait post as if this place isn't already ravaged enough by mentally ill tripfaggots
seriously kill yourself
I miss him, /trek/. Why did Behr and co think I would want a DS9 S8 without him?
Friendly reminder that Voyager had a more diverse cast than STD, but STD gets all the credit.
that time on STD when, despite showing futuristic floating chairs for the disabled, they have this one crewman in an old fashioned wheelchair, and they keep showing him in almost every shot just rolling by
and when the producers got really weird and confrontational about it on social media
It's convenient how the technology of the far-flung future is able to eliminate all problems except the ones that identity politics uses to sustain itself.
>STD
"No!"
It's called DIS, DSC, or DISCO.
It's STD.
Brought to you by these fine folks.
Being crippled is a choice.
the good old arm jowl
kill all fat people
Jesus fucking christ
Imagine if Geordi liked being totally blind and didn't want his VISOR.
this reminds me of those deafness forums where deaf people delude themselves into thinking deafness is superior to hearing
meanwhile blind forums & chatrooms are filled with "What would you do if you could see?" "To former seeing people: what is a sunset like?" etc.
There aren't enough gay characters in Star Trek. And why is there still a gender binary? Why aren't there officers with boobs and a dick? My group of friends is more diverse than a society 400 years from now, what the hell's up with that?
...
For certain people their disability becomes an identity. It's insane.
If TNG was made today Geordi would be blind and have a space dog.
Picard didn't cure his baldness because of bald culture.
can we pogrom all the blue checks on twitter?
like, drag them into the streets and blow their brains out
Well, being a pedophile is also a disability according to these guys, and it just so happens that I consider that disability part of my identity so no, I will not assent to being "fixed!"
different because pedophilia hurts others
So does being crippled. Society has to work to compensate for you, it has to make everything accessible and comfortable to you - you're a drain on others and would cause real hurt by choosing to stay that way.
NuTrek being unable to understand that a political message is the dessert of Star Trek, not the main course, is truly tragic.
>cochlear implants where they could literally hear tomorrow
yeah, hear garbled bullshit. It takes months to over a year of acclimatisation and rehab/mapping with a certified (that means expensive) CI trainer to actually hear anything recognisable as language, and even then you're never going to achieve anything approaching full-resolution hearing, the electrode density just can't be high enough. Plus it destroys the organ of corti so if a magical therapy came out the day after you got your implant that would have cured you 100% then you're shit out of luck. It's in no way comparable to scifi magic where they wave a machine at you and you can hear again.
It's made by and for people who don't like Trek.
Kurtzman was never a Star Trek fan but he co-wrote ST 2009 and Into Darkness.
>And why is there still a gender binary? Why aren't there officers with boobs and a dick?
I doubt that trannies would exist in Star Trek. I'm sure the doctors could modify the DNA of a child before being born.
like said, none of the people involved with STD ever watched or like star trek, it's just their job
do normies even watch it? i can't imagine them doing anything but ignoring it
>white boomers arguing about gender identity
gender identity, a.k.a. Larping, is inconsequential.
I'm a zoomer, get it right
only a boomer would call themselves a zoomer
you're an age tranny bro
Who's the Raven of Star Trek?
Voyager
>Woman
>Black
>Asian
STD
>Woman
>Black
>Homos
>Asian
>Autist
If your identity is being a crippled faggot then you clearly have no personality, meaning or point for existing.
Data is a self-serving replication of all the shit Noonian Soong thought was great about himself.
He molded his own face to make Data and I'd bet he also molded his dick to make Data's robo-dick.
>Why aren't there officers with boobs and a dick?
Riker and Kirk fit this description desu.
You forgot to add the pedo in Voyager.
>I'm sure the doctors could modify the DNA of a child before being born.
Eugenics and genetic engineering is strictly forbidden in the Federation, retard.
You're not wrong
Voyager
>White woman
>Native American man
>Latino woman
>white boi
>Pedophile
>2 year old girl in a consenting relationship with the pedophile
>Baldy
>Black Vulcan man
>Borg autist woman
>Chinese man
Why should one be proud of their sexual orientation? What did you accomplish? This also applies to being proud of your gender, your disabilities, your skin color or the place you were born.
its also called "losing a lawsuit for plagiarism"
Is /trek/ excited for the show about Jack Parsons, the chaos magician who came up with rocket designs for NASA while doing kinky sex magic and founded the Jet Propulsion Laboratory before he blew himself up in his lab while attempting to manifest the archetypal divine feminine energy? Seems like it'll fit with Trek's canon and it's about space and shit.
>place you were born.
At least then you're proud of the accomplishments of your people which theoretically amount more than just getting and spreading aids all over the place.
>tardcharts is back
I'm the OP. I'm just waiting for Picard or Short Treks to make any new charts.
>picard is a faggot
Fuk
It hasn't exactly been a secret. If he isn't gay then he's obviously bi.
I could had told you that just from watching TNG. Worst captain that got a full season.
1. Janeway
2. Kirk
3. Archer
4. Lorca-Mirror
5. Jellico
6. Pike
7. Sisko
8. Picard
9. Georgiou-Prime
Can you please get a tripcode so I never have to see anything you post ever again? Thanks.
Is there a list of things DS9 plagiarized like Starship Troopers?
Who was the pedo?
>/trek/ is back to clingingmars' charts and samefagging all day
yeah no, this is retarded and gay
Wasn't that Kes? I havent watched Voyager in like 15 years, wasn't she technically only 2 sol cycles old or some shit or is this something else?
Does someone have that one Neelix webm? The one with the prison statistics?
I forgot he preyed on Kes. Look at the toil it had on her
We are still hating TNG, right?
I don't have the webm
This episode is pretty bad, but it's a guilty pleasure for me. It felt like a halloween special.
TNG isn't canon.
lol, he looks like a total prick there. Dress your age, grandpa.
he is literally wearing grampa clothes
Paris was one of Voyager's saving graces.
Patrick Stewart is Hugh Jackman levels of gay. They both say they're straight, but how many straight men pose in gay pride shirts for pictures or perform in musical theater between cashing in Wolverine checks? How many straight men kiss their best friend in public?
Anyone who denies Patrick is gay obviously hasn't been paying attention. Every time the media asks if he's gay he downplays it with a response like "but
have so many straight friends" which isn't a denial. He's telling you he likes dudes as loudly as he can without committing to a public statement because he thinks it's funny that no one gets it except for those who can sense their own kind, in which case it's a cute inside joke.
inb4 someone accuses me of being homophobe, am pansexual
Turnabout Intruder turns 50 years old today. Say something nice about it.
>Numerous dead people have it as part of their identity and their community. So yes. Many would prefer to stay "unfixed".
seek God
I literally cannot say anything nice about Turnabout Intruder.
uhh, pure cringe
youtube.com
Kill yourself faggot scum
Repent, it's not too late.
I'd rather suck dick than entertain the idea of being a christcuck and letting some pedo incel talk at me about a book of fairy tales
don't steal my rankings
my pic is the original
play it fair bro, come on
You are an actual faggot.
>don't steal my charts
this is your fault /trek/
you know who the problem poster is and you allowed this cancer to grow
Seek help
>I invented rankings
>6 posts
>4 of them OP samefagging
nice thread
>ay whats yo name white boi
>Jean-Luc Picar'? Shhhheeeeeiiiiiiiit. You da muthafucka who nerfed da Borg! Dayum, I love you mayne, you wuz swingin round pipes n sheit, lemme axe you sum though, was the Kwayne's pussy as tight n wet as I think it is?
claimed and before you try and argue just know i'm putting my cat down in the next couple days he has a fast growing tumor on his tongue
It's probably the user who invented lyrics, too. Don't be too mean or they'll report you. Remember, we're all frens here.
Fake news.
fixed
these are the objective rankings
>"To former seeing people: what is a sunset like?"
That is depressing as fuck, man.
Deep space nine top tier
In what the fucking Klingons home world?
>it's a /pol/tards come out to the woodwork to claim that Star Trek never had a liberal agenda promoting diversity episode
mfw
They're called pectoral muscles, you stipid orange man!
I am glad now that Big Bang Theory is over, they are making a show about the brave nerdy gay actor that played Sheldon. Maybe they show how he came up with the phrase "Bazinga".
CBS has so many great shows. I am glad to pay extra for All Access to thank them for it.
>a magical carpenter walked on water and was crucified and buried but got better and flew up into the sky
are you actually that retarded? kys faggot
very realistic depiction of females.
wait that show was on CBS? no wonder it was full of Trek references
Theists happy/atheist mad
Why you mad tho?
>big bang theory is comparable to a show about a real person
I only watch Star Trek, too.
Does Yea Forums charge you guys a fee when to place ads like that?
hes fucking somebody 1/4 his age he got no fucking room to talk
B
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Sounds like a beard-for-hire. His dick probably hasn't worked in over a decade.
what is this bullshit?
>hollywood
i assume hes bi and would fuck anything live or dead desu
>trying to push that a straight man is gay because you are mentally ill and obsessed
I was genuinely interested in talking about a space show involving an engineer who uses science to solve mysteries and achieve the impossible but I guess spamming charts and wondering what Patrick Stewart likes to fuck is more interesting.
>a space show involving an engineer who uses science to solve mysteries
that's Doctor Who
this is one of the best /trek/ posts in ages.
That's Star Trek, dumbass.
Wrong.
In season 1 why does riker stand slightly hunched over like he is Bigfoot...
That's not season 1.
But anyway, the uniforms in season 1 and 2 were intentionally too small for the actors because Gene thought that this would display their assets better. But then the uniforms shrunk in the wash, and they became painful to wear.
What up to all my /trek/ broskis and my /trek/ettes?
Classic VF post.
He likes women with black hair, high cheek bones, and a little bit of danger to them.
kill yourself
Friendly reminder that Dukat did nothing wrong.
Classic VF reply. Repetitive and vitriolic.
Why was Paris so based?
This is true but what about my sexual organs?
>the chaos magician
>no visible mutations
big GAY
That image is around a year old but I agree that it's a classic
Blow it out, transphobe.
Dossier user you are not.
Bashirfaggot !!cUABfN5xFSR is the Hume Cronyn of sardonic wit.
>Cis White Straight Man (TOS)
>Cis White Straight Man (TAS)
>Cis White Straight Man (TNG)
>Cis Black Straight Man (DS9)
>Cis White Straight Woman (VOY)
>Cis White Straight Man (ENT)
>Cis White Straight Man (DSC-1)
>Cis White Straight Man (DSC-2)
>Cis White Straight Man (PIC)
>Cis Asian Bisexual Woman (S31)
When will we finally get a transgendered lead?
Reminder that tripfags and not /pol/ ruined /trek/.
oh glob >_> me lost originally image
Jesus Christ.
Don't be so hard on Big Baby Vee. At least it's content.
Technically he was a Thelemite but that philosophy of magick turned into chaos magick after Parsons and L. Ron Hubbard finished the Babalon Working ritual. Parsons was basically the Harry Potter to Crowley's Dumbledore so it's entirely possibly he was able to conceal his mutations with a hidius begonum charm.
I do not like this pic
God damn every time I see Patrick Stewart's body I think to myself that he's the human ideal for health. He's literally in perfect shape at 7x years old somehow.
Shatner is way healthier and stronger than Stewart and he's way older. More handsome and intelligent too. His mind hasn't gone like Stewart's.
cringe
>type two diabetic lardass Shatner healthier than the dude who is a normal weight
Okay, Bill. Whatever you say. TJ Hooker is still shit though.
What did we think of it.
The dude looks like a perfectly healthy 40 year old. You guys are tools. Patrick looks like he has one year left in him. Here definitely will not be a season two to Picard.
He and Ian have definitely had some "just friends" butt-fucking. Theatre people are weird in a way that transcends secual orientation.
Moar pls
Patrick stewart looks old as fuck for his age.
Based and Stewpilled
>>/lgbt/
His wife left him for L. Ron Hubbard, strange guy
Being gay is a fetish, not a sexual orientation. Keep that shit to yourself.
Why does he have eyebrows, nostrils, and a mouth? He has a face so he can interface with other sentient beings. He has a dick so he can interface with other sentient beings.
The only sexual orientations are if you like fat people, thin people or muscular people.
If I pull that thing off, will you die?
When will the alt-righters accept that Trek was never for them?
Canon is meaningless
>alt-righters
What's alt about right-wingers not liking gay shit? When everyone is a Nazi, what's a conservativism?
Yeah, so he could meet his magical whore of the apocalypse and take mankind to the stars. Strange Angel is a Zephram Cochrane series.
Take up the Grey Man's burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.
Take up the Grey Man's burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.
Take up the Grey Man's burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.
Take up the Grey Man's burden--
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper--
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.
Take up the Grey Man's burden--
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard--
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
"Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Bajoran night?"
Take up the Grey Man's burden--
Ye dare not stoop to less--
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloke your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.
Take up the Grey Man's burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!
Molly O'Brien? More like Lolly O'Brien, amirite?
>When will we finally get a transgendered lead?
Not soon enough
Nazis? In my Star Trek? It's more common than you think.
>TJ Hooker is still shit though.
How can one man be so based? Way to put Shitner in his place user, bravo.
Just flip it and perfect
>reverse image search
>Marjorie Cameron
>Born in Belle Plaine, Iowa, Cameron volunteered for service in the United States Navy during the Second World War, after which she settled in Pasadena, California. There she met Parsons, who believed her to be the "elemental" woman that he had invoked in the early stages of a series of sex magic rituals called the Babalon Working. They entered into a relationship and were married in 1946. Their relationship was often strained, although Parsons sparked her involvement in Thelema and occultism. After Parsons' death in an explosion at their home in 1952, Cameron came to suspect that her husband had been assassinated and began rituals to communicate with his spirit. Moving to Beaumont, she established a multi-racial occult group called The Children, which dedicated itself to sex magic rituals with the intent of producing mixed-race "moon children" who would be devoted to the god Horus. The group soon dissolved, largely because many of its members became concerned by Cameron's increasingly apocalyptic predictions.
What the fuck am I reading
Computer: Create a completely different Trek-like world with its own original characters, ships, alien worlds, and technologies that is far less up its own ass, for those of us who are sick and tired of the arrogantly pedantic, know nothing know-it-alls who call themselves Star Trek fans.
Remove safety protocols.
Why does Starfleet have holograms that can think and feel like the EMH? Doesn't that violate all kinds of laws and ethics?
who hurt you?
>telling someone their friend killed themselves and it was all their fault for telling said friend to regard themselves as a human being with rights and innate value
Archer was a bad person.
Cogenitors aren't human.
"That's not how videogames work."
"That's not how DNA works"
"Their being able to explode his brain is retarded"
The goofy trek themed shit, like lighting set and costumes were fun and lovingly crafted, but the actual script was retarded and needed at least some research to seem less fucking stupid
well yeah- none of the Vissians were human.
But cogenitors have the same facilities as the male and female Vissians, it was pretty morally fucked to treat them as chattel, and it wouldn't have killed itself if Archer had granted it asylum.
You can't blame Archer for what Trip did.
its entire life was getting passed around and fucked- fucking kibble and sleeping on the floor to keep it alive.
He knows women secretly love baldies.
I find your post shallow and pedantic.
How did the Valiant replenish their torpedos?
Actually, I keep thinking Jim Parsons, ghe guy that plays Sheldon, is also named Jack Parsons. Also was curious how much /trek/ dislikes BBT.
>Computer: increase middle school humor by 1000%.
That's the problem with moralist crusaders. They seldom know how and when to mind their own business.
They didn't need to because they spent most of their time hiding instead of fighting. They were trying to track down one specific ship, not fight the entire war.
I have to wonder if they change the name of his occultist buddy who happens to have started a.. um... church that is very famous for suing people for talking about their founder.
Spock, kirk, bones
Which one is id, which one is ego, which one super ego?
Freud was a fraud.
That sounds like a good episode
Mother issues?
I know, but stylistically they could probably be made to line up.
Yes. He probably had many.
Why bother?
You're right, someone just post dr pulaski doing calisthenics again.
Why the fuck did they stop making shows with 24 episode seasons
What the fuck
Kikes are lazy and want more money
Why would people exist in the utopian future who weren’t comfortable with themselves? Why would anyone in the future consider cis(comfortable in skin) a slur?
Probably not, Hubbard never cared about the craft he just wanted people to pay attention to his science fiction stories. Scientology is a meme.
>Why would people exist in the utopian future who weren’t comfortable with themselves?
>Who is Barclay
>Who is Worf
>Who is Seven
>Who is T'Pol
>Who is Tilly
I don’t remember the episode where word tells the captain that the only way he can feel while is if he cuts both his dicks off
S5E18
Sorry, I meant they probably won't even bother including Hubbard in the series. Then after two seconds of googling I found this:
>Hubbard doesn’t make an appearance in Season 1 of “Strange Angel,” which mostly focuses on Parsons’ early obsession with rockets and his belief that humans might one day break into space, along with his early curiosity in the occult and what led to him being recruited into that world.
indiewire.com
I hope we get Crowley as a character and demon aliens but if they're going for a realistic series and everyone is just getting fucked up while wearing robes and the "magick" is their minds that'll be cool, too.
Where are my goddamned Orville action figures?
Or The Orville Official Starships Collection
I know right? Merch is SADLY lacking.
This is either phoneposting or Aphasia.
You don't know everything.
I know enough.
Your analysis, Mr. Spock?
Today I finally converted to a TNG-fag (outside of Space Mall since that's unbeatable).
I love VOY and ENT and TOS but FUCK why do their characters and story arcs have to be so stagnant?! NO character development.
Still hate Geordi and Troi and Wesley and Beverly though.
Cause and effect?
Faggotry in this thread has reached unprecedented levels and is approaching critical mass. Estimate 5.4 more posts before it is deleted. Recommend all pieer to shields.
Peak boomercore
What an honor.
S5E18
S11E05
There's no real character development on DS9 user, just some continuity porn that usually hamfisted like " I don't suppose you're here to reminisce about the time you helped my brother and me rescue Moogie from the Dominion."
so did picard stand trial at the end of first contact for disobeying orders?
Hi /trek/, I'm back ! you never knew I left
I just want to give a shout out to my homie Belley Gorge and every anonymii out there LLAP desu
Only Bashir, O'Brien, and Nog got any character development. The rest were identical throughout the seasons.
DS9 sucks
O’Brien had more actual character development on TNG.
Nah, he definitely had a good start though. 40/60 maybe.
so did Worf, but no one is going to admit it because he didn't punch enough people on TNG
Sisko
>comes to love DS9/Bajor and becomes increasingly comfortable with his role as the emisassry. Has to compromise his ideals in order for the Federation to survive
Kira
>Learns to not hate Cardies as blindly as she did during the start of the series and even counts a few among them as friends, becomes a less militant person in general
Quark
>How could you ever even imply that he got no character development? Same with Rom. Don't be an idiot
Odo
>Plenty of character development as he discovers who his people are and deals with the ghosts of his past serving under the Cardassians
O'Brien
>Develops a great friendship with Bashir and like Kira learns to accept the Cardassians as individuals
I'm not doing the rest but you get the idea
I honestly love this rendition. So much of the pasta in this general is forced but this one is my fave. I sing it loud and proud.
TNG has more character development than this. DS9 fans are deluded.
Sisko didn't come to ds9 with federation ideals though, he came to ds9 half-hating the federation for taking his wife away. He never really rebounded and got pro-federation except where eddington was concerned. It was very very out of character, maybe Sisko was jealous. They didn't go into it.
Kira did that in S1 which was basically the Kira-introduction-season since all the important eps were Kira doing that. She didn't have a separate character and grow into this changed version, that's just revealed.
Quark/Odo mostly the same, they were introduced as sort of the vague outline of what they would be, minor filling in of blanks and repetition. Unironically Quark's shittiest Moogie & Magnificent Ferengi moments are his most character-ful.
Odo's character development was his disasterous relationship with Kira WHICH CONFIRMED his original incel stance.
Dax/Dax spouted technobabble, had some fun times with aliens, died.
An attempt was made, but no. 0-1.
Stationfags think adding pips is character development, that's why they obsess over Harry Kim.
>Ben doesnt evolve into a fine commander, opens his mind toward spirituality nor does he get over the death of his wife
>Kyra doesnt overcome the xenophobic tendencies her years of warring against an invasive alien species created, she doesnt learn to put down her guard after being raised in constant turmoil
>Basheer doesn't learn to assert himself, not hold back and even like himself despite the conditions of his birth, repairing his relationship with his parents
>Miles doesn't get over prejudices, learn to tend to his family or overcome intense trauma
I could go on, but its not worth it.
>y-you are w-wrong! I w-win!
Pathetic.
I am a stationfag but I fucking love Kim memes.
There you go, the outcast brings up an interesting question about gender and what people’s understanding of themselves is. Only problem is that was initially supposed to be solved through self acceptance and the bad end we saw was the government mandated corrective surgery. I’ve got no problem with the broadening of personal identity but the way it’s being pushed isn’t healthy for everyone involved.
That’s what I was looking for initially
>DS9 didn't have any character development
Not like TOS where the bold captain Kirk learns humility, the repressed Spock learns to accept himself for who he is, and the grumpy Bones learns he should find another job if he's going to bitch all the time. DS9 was just seven seasons of drama queens on a space mall, an obvious ripoff of Babylon 5.
Kirk and Spock's arc throughout the feature films is spacebro kino, but I feel bad that Bones never redeemed himself after being declared incompetent by the Klingon courts.
>never redeemed himself
helping with the torpedo bro
>films
they don't count
0-2
I thought about that. Maybe a line of dialogue from Spock about how he needs a surgeon's hands to guide a delicate calibration or something.
>what if star trek were a little bit more gay
TOS films > the rest of Star Trek
Okay but that doesn't have anything to do with the fact that your argument is DS9 lacked character development when multiple anons have proven you wrong, and when someone criticized TOS for lacking character development you started talking about the movies.
You will now accept you are wrong and yield the thread to me.
>your argument
Not me mate.
the films count but nobody's keeping track of grudges and arguments because its anonymous image board with multiple users. DS9 definitely had character development but less than lots of posters seem to believe (and are remarkably wrong about where it happens)
i think spock just implying he needed him was good enough honestly
>B.but muh space mall!
Typical stationfag chimpouts
The films don't count. They're not part of the original series, and even if you were to include them nobody changes in any meaningful way. They're like a sick grandma you barely know who thinks she's dying and keeps inviting you over and you don't want to go but this might be the last time and you'd feel awful if you blew her off. By the time we see ancient Kirk again in Generations he's bouncing around chopping wood and riding horses, and more than willing to run headfirst into another fight. Where's the acceptance of age, or the development into something other than a cowboy with a ray gun? If you think the volatile Sisko at the beginning of DS9 is the same tempered man by the finale you either weren't paying attention or you need characters with obviously drawn arcs like robots with Pinocchio complexes.
>The films don't count.
DS9 doesn't count.
Why can't ds9 fans avoid being so passive-aggressive? Is it because they are all trannies or weak men?
By first scene of #1 spock's already turning, his arc goes psychadelic though. Kirk's arc goes through all sorts of twists and turns but the end point is reinforced classic Kirk. Doesn't have to be different. Sulu grows up a little but Shat shat on that.
Sisko is definitely different, he finds religion and weird shady shit. He's never pro-federation though and again from Scene 1(or whichever where he's talking with Picard) of DS9 he's the same way.
if it was a hot broad Archer would have saved it.
>crying
0-3
>the end point is reinforced classic Kirk
So, there wasn't any development.
>Sisko is definitely different, he finds religion and weird shady shit. He's never pro-federation
Except for when he sacrifices himself at the end, or when he begs the Prophets to help defeat the Dominion and save not only the Federation but the entire galaxy? Yeah because that's the same guy who wants to quit Starfleet in the first episode.
I am not crying, just pointing your inability to express yourself without passive-aggressiveness.
>using a literal deus ex machina scene as a demonstration of good character development.
Development isn't the destination it's the journey, homey. Also just said Sisko's definitely different, but he was a traitor to the uniform by S4-5, because he's literally of bajor and the prophets.
1. DS9
2. TNG
3. ENT
4. TOS
5. DSC
6. VOY
7. Abramsverse
8. TAS
9. Continues
>DSC
fuck off, shill
>above VOY
or maybe its just retarded
I can't believe this madman did this.
If you don't stop it's going to be 0-4
The magical Prophets don't matter, what's important is his willingness to have faith in them. He accepts his role in the universe, that his life has purpose and so too does the death of his wife, that for some strange reason he can't understand everything that's happened has done so for a reason. When he finally admits he needs the Prophets he's letting go of his anger and becoming someone who wants to protect the people he's come to love.
That is called character development.
Sure but that's Rapture, where he confirms the anti-federation stance he took from the beginning.
It's also not sci-fi.
so it's just a rip-off of the first Borg episode from TNG
Most DS9 episodes are just rehashed TNG plots
Wrong, they're rehashed non-trek film plots. TNG plots would be too boring.
>DS9 definitely had character development but less than lots of posters seem to believe (and are remarkably wrong about where it happens)
dat pathetic backpedal cope goalpost maneuver
Personally I watch StarTrek for the big battles and humans being literally just like the ones from our times. That's why Deep Space 9 and Star Trek Discovery are my favourite Trek shows.
>saves your show
there's like 5 people arguing here and one guy thinks they're all samefagging. I've personally been arguing DS9 has some of the best character development but that a lot of characters are notorious for having zero and everyone else is fuckin fanatic about it one way or another. From my perspective this all started at "Obrien got more development on TNG/DS9" which seems like it would be a pretty good discussion no autism required.
ftfy
so why we're tng rating better?
>one guy thinks they're all samefagging
He also has no idea what beer pong actually is
ds9 fans get too defensive of their show, probably because they see liking it as an important aspect of their being
They make it too much of their identity, plus women generally like TNG and Voyager so incels gravitate towards it.
I dunno, I'm a big ds9 fan myself. All of the series have good and bad with them. TNG wasted colm meaney, even though he also got some amazing time in the best episode. He was a bit player for so long you'd think hollywood hated irish people in the 80s.
>there's like 5 people arguing here and one guy thinks they're all samefagging.
>one guy thinks they're all samefagging.
The irony on display
it's nice when someone appreciates your work
Hey it's me the beer pong guy. I've played it and it's lame. I still can't believe they did that shit on Discovery. It still sucks
>not calling it STD
How the mighty have fallen
Fuck. I can't believe I said that. I'm actually mad at myself
I think what happened with DS9 for me is that when it aired it was hard to keep up because of TV schedules and missing episodes I would sometimes not know what was going on anymore and gave up. Once I was able to watch it in order I grew to really like and appreciate it more and felt that it was underrated and many people might have been in the same position that I was. Sometimes when people hate on DS9 it just seems like they're missing out. I can see why some people wouldn't like it though, but I'm surprised at all the "there was no character development" thing though. I kind of felt the same way about Babylon 5. I enjoyed that a lot more when I was able to get my hands on the episodes and watch them in sequence.
I also like to make baseless assumptions about people I’ve never met
Which episode is the best you describe?
Not that user but what is your favorite genre? It has everything
That episode was dumpster fire
Never seen a worse episod
Did 90s Trekkies really jerk off to Janeway? That's disgusting.
Terrible episod
Bad
How did you make the same idiot typo twice?
Don't criticize style when you have none.
Meet your new Captain.
Ds9 having more continuity during some of the seasons and being less contained per episode than other trek DID turn a lot of people off when it aired. I wasn't even making the assumption that's the reason you specifically don't care for it, but that it is a very common reason at the time for a lot viewers. I do have a basis to assume you're a rude POS though.
Bailey could fix the P31 junction in my Jeffries tube any time, if you catch my drift.
Does Yea Forums like the Orville? I thought I’d hate it but it became such a comfy show. Certainly leaps and bounds better than STD with Captain Shaniqua.
TNG > TOS > VOY > dogshit > catshit > horseshit > flyshit > everything > STD
speaking from experience, horseshit > catshit > dogshit > bullshit
still leagues above aidstrek
It didn't take itself seriously, as if Macfarlane had impostor syndrome and considered wrecking the tone of the show preferable to making a serious effort and potentially getting scoured by fans and critics while actually trying his best
At least this way he can tell himself "I-it was just a fun project, I never meant for it to really be better than star trek... haha... please write it like that in my biography..."
You can tell that he loves Star Trek more than anyone that's actually been make official Trek for a long time. Bortus is such a great Worf parody I can watch the show for him alone.
klyden's way better though
based Dukat poster
Just be glad that Trek was one of the first shows to feature transgendered characters back in the 90s. Remember when Crusher fell in love with an alien who transitioned for female?
Are you saying Parsons and Hubbard were gay lovers? Hmm. Might have to call Tom Cruise's lawyers on you, user.
Years ago I had an idea of a comic imspired by Crowley and Parsons. Not about them, as much as ones following them. They were occultist scientists inspired by them in a Lovecraftian town that summon... things. They also had a falling out. Plus how their rituals affected those in the town. Never did write it out fully, nevermind publish it.