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Instead of wasting away why didnt robert go out and conquer something like mounting an expedition or that one free city, lorath thats weak as shit. If battle was what he loved and he was king he could hsve just started a war.

COME WITH ME AND TAKE THIS THREAD!

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[d is very loosely ranked]

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Fucking lol

He was afraid of Joffrey ending up on the throne if he died in battle

FOR STANNIS

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based
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Stannis is just some dead man

ah dornt wunt et
stannis is the rahtful eir

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I mean usually some spooky shit happens but goddamn I just wanna read about Lannister plots

Died like a bitch

I BEND THE KNEE

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dead general

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Based honourbro

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Its over

and that's a good thing!

Show went out the worst way imaginable, what do you expect?

*ahem*
fuck the tyrells
fuck dragonshits
fuck bastards born of incest
most of all FUCK RENLY

based.
we are this general because that is where the rightful king commanded us to be.

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Was the word "marriage" even spoken in the presence of Jon or Dany in season 7 or 8? How or we supposed to believe that a marriage between them wouldn't work out, when Dany was a fucking slave to nephew cock?

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It wouldn't have worked because people would be split between being Kingsmen and Queensmen. Some would want Jon to take authority (Northerners) and some would want Dany to (Unsullied, Dothraki). If it came out that Jon was Aegon Targaryen it would have been even worse.

Ser Davos is rather limited in some respects.

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but Your Grace...the shitposting...Hundreds will be banned

I BEND THE KNEE

I bend the knee.
Stannis!!!!!

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It would have been a co-regency. The North not wanting a Stark on the throne with a Targaryen was fucking retarded. Jon wouldn't just take all command from Daenerys because Sansa or Varys would want him to. Daenerys wouldn't lose all respect as a ruler simply because she is a woman, when Cersei was able to rule with impunity despite having no claim to the throne.

Jon and Dany co-ruling is an infinitely more logical ending than Bran being voted King for no reason because a prisoner said so. It also doesn't help that the North was able to secede for free.

He said thats why he didnt just abandon the throne but he could have just campaigned while remaining King it mightve kept the fire going in him

thousands,

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its a fucking general thread newfag retard, making a new one doesn't magically make it go faster, this is how fast /got/ goes at 4 am burger time.

We must do our duty. Great or small we must do our duty

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A coregency would never work my man. Just like in a relationship, one person has to lead.

He could have fallen in battle

Have you dreamed this man?

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>been called a bot in the last thread
>changed Its post

I see you bot

That's Ser Bot for you, peasant

Maester Luigi

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Jon doesn't want to lead, which is why your premise is flawed. He would be a King-Consort who kept Dany's worst impulses in check. He was shown time after time to be able to do so, but that was dropped for no reason.

It seems like you fell for the shitty, out of character justification why Jon can't marry Dany that Varys made.

best character is season 8

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>Bobby B prime
>Falling in battle
He could have brought stannis with him as a stratagist while he lead from the front they could have knocked some essosi shit up

If he had just waited a little longer he wouldn't have die

The only good thing that left the shitson08 was the soundtrack desu
youtube.com/watch?v=CcFjLGrwWBc

It was cool how he redeemed himself by fighting for Bran but idk he did some really fucked up shit

Or Bran could’ve told him to stay behind him and say ‘trust me’.

I think he learnt his lesson

>huuur it's medieval everyone wears dark brown leather and nothing else
god I hate this meme

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why olenna be wearing two dick lol

people looked like fags in medieval times and is one aspect i'm glad is not historically accurate.
i'd rather loads of boiled leather and warcraft pauldrons than gaudy tights and faggy tunics.

Shit taste colourful armour is way better than the boy band black leather got in the final seasons

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>I'd rather stare at a dull sea of grey and brown with no visual distinctions between various houses, factions, and regions, where the nobles look virtually the same as peasants
absolute grimdark pleb

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"Caring" will be a negative trait and Stannis (and eventually Daenerys, too) will suffer despite trying to help Jon defeat the Others.

PRESS S TO SPIT

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writing a fanfic sequel to the show
>bran vs sansa
>arya sails to morrowind
>jon x tormund
>drogon/daario/dany essos adventure
>littlefinger on the run from faceless men/iron bank

maybe also an AU where ned is sent to the wall with arya, robb marries marge, north/rivers/vale/reach support stannis, he takes KL and butterfly effect from there

Find some way to inclue Radmure, Stannis and Sweet Robin and itll be gold

i was thinking radmure abdicates to catch waves, bronn and the ironborn both want riverrun, and that sparks the bransa conflict (as well as bran legalizing rape)

Shit guys. Just finished the Red Wedding chapter. I hated Catelyn all up to this point but man I did feel for her at the end. Her last moments were harrowing.

>I hated Catelyn all up to this point
you're a jonfag aren't you

God mario naharis looks like a clown

Not really, no. I just find her infuriating. Her treatment of Jon is part of that but he's not one of my favorite characters.

So many people hate Catelyn because she is an annoying cunt of a character who did stupid shit over and over again. Jon doesn't even have to be brought into the discussion to hate her.

Dude just wanted to be nice and give them something for all the trouble they went through

>Space Wolf Pack Leader looks towards Sisters of Battle Celestian, while she looks away in disgust during the 13th Black Crusade
>Circa 999.M41

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I found all her actions perfectly understandable tbqh.

Sit down degenerate

The second bran isn’t wargin all the lords:

>Dorne and Iron Isles declare independence
>Bran and Gendry are killed since anyone can be a lord now
>Mediocre white uncle in the Riverlands who thought he should have been king and was humiliated in public (a thing lords tend to hold grudges for) probably vies for the throne, maybe with help of breastfed chad sweetrobin
>QITN will probably be feeling the affects of winter and having her lands depopulated, probably be in heavy debt to the iron bank who will charge her exorbitant interest due to all the shenanigans in the 7 kingdoms, will hop into the war for profit
> that dragon will fly around burning women and children without Dany guiding him

I’ll give it a month before people demand Jon Snows return from his wildling adventure.

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>I’ll give it a month before people demand Jon Snows return from his wildling adventure.

"I dun wanit"

ITT: perfect casting

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>he thinks he can overthrow the Bran 9000

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Davos is not one to hold a grudge against somebody for acting in their own interest, even if his own must cross with theirs and lead to conflict. He's always been practical in this regard.
He attributes Matthos' death as an effect of the path he led him onto, and why he is so easily able to abandon Stannis' cause.
Oh, and they burned Shireen lmao. NAILED IT
>Be Matthos
>Suck R'hllor's flaming pyre
>Die to a bigass fire
whew

I bend the knee

I think house Bolton's betrayal would be a lot more shocking if they didn't live in a castle called the "dreadfort"

>"LMAO, some worm is leading us?"
>"So who will overthrow Leto?"
>"LMAO, some rotting corpse is leading us?"
>"So who will overthrow the Emperor of mankind?"
>"LMAO, some crippled autist is leading us?"
>"So who will overthrow God King Bran?"

You fags never learn.

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Kill yourself.

>gets triggered by a pic of a cute girl

How can GRRM be forgiven for retroactively ruining Neddard?
It makes no fucking sense that he would have ever supported Robert as king except for his own revenge. He betrayed Bobby, and rightfully so, and every action he took seemed in fear and disdain.
STANNIS IS THE RIGHTFUL HEIR, THOUGH.
What a dumb cunt. If this faggot had balls when it counted absolutely none of the events of ASOIAF would've occurred. For fuck's sake even Robert claims as much.
Why are the Starks such whipped dogs through and through? They're Northmen, with nobody to really answer to, regardless of if they have a king or not.
What a sad lot to call your main protagonists.

>best character in the series
FTFY

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>chickenfucker scene
>aye, see these? these're the king's color
>it's the same fucking color as everything else
BRAVO DABMAN

Davos thinks the Unsullied can populate a region using magic because when he saw Melisandre birthing the shadow he assumed that was how all black people are born.

Davos really wore out the "IM JUST A KINDLY OLD MAN WHO IS A PEASANT BUT HER'ES MY TAKE ON THIS MATTER" schtick.

>bringing in Raimi to fix your show this late
D&D should've gotten him in season 1

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It is strange how Eddard played both sides of the fence. He was disgusted by Robert's reaction to Rhaegar's kids being murdered, hid one of Rhaegar's kids himself, still wanted Robert to rule, and still wanted Stannis to be King when Robert died. He also wanted to keep the only Targaryen girl around alive.

If Ned was still around while Stannis was King, Jon (eventually) being removed from his vows, and Dany invading Westeros, he would be in a completely untenable situation.

>Live in the Dreadfort
>Banner is the Flayed Man
hmm
in retrospect the show did a decent job of setting up Roose's personal reasons for betraying Robb. That's what happens when you elect a horny teenager as your king.

STANNIS

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Obviously King (f)Aegon VI lands with the rest of the golden company and claims what is rightfully his. Stannisfags and Danyfags commit mass suicide.
Jon, Euron and the Night King are all pardoned and given lordships for their great deeds against the pretender Daenerys

meant for

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>played both sides of the fence
What the fuck is this even supposed to mean?
Ned didn't see Jon or Dany as viable threats to Robert's rule thus didn't see the point of harming them, that's all there is to it. If Ned was still around when Dany had dragons and was actually building an army it would be a different matter, but before his death she was just some exiled kid married to some horsefucking barbarian not worth worrying about.

If Stannis gets the throne and Dany invades, what the fuck is he going to do?
How would a scene between them even play out?

based

>each kingdom now ruled by literal who's and cowards who kept their heads down long enough to survive whilst the real heroes did all the fighting
Night King should've won lads

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Based.
AEGON AEGON AEGON AEGON AEGON
AEGON AEGON AEGON AEGON AEGON
AEGON AEGON AEGON AEGON AEGON

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>Warren beyond the wall, Lord-Paramount of Alwayswinter

I like it.

i hope to address all these questions and more in my alternate universe fanfiction, It Truly Was A Game Of Thrones

God damn the scenes where Tyrion and Tywin shitalk each other are the best in the whole book lmao

Did Euron still call himself king of the Isles and the Norf or did he give up that title for cercei's muff?
I can't remember and I don't want to rewatch s7

I can imagine he simply didn't care to usurp the actual throne, but to bring justice to Aerys II and potentially Rhaegar, but you'd think he'd have said as much, though I suppose it wouldn't matter after the death's of Elia Martell and her children. Tywin truly was playing 4D chess.
Except in the books, Aegon is purportedly still alive, so fuck me the show is just a complete disgrace that should've gone on hiatus once they ran out of material.
>NOOH, NAOW ET ENDS
>kills two midwives instead of just nutting up and killing Bobby

If Dany were invading Ned would have no qualms about killing her, his problem was killing her when it looked like she never actually had a chance of invading (and if it wasn't for magic plot dragons not a single person saw coming she wouldn't have).

>You shouldn't worry about your death, but your life
>Never get to really see him live and develop into a young chad
thanks doob

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She gets Renly’d.

why didn't they melt down heartsbane and longclaw to build a valyrian steel wire fence around Bran?

He promised Lyanna that he would protect Jon. He was trying to guard Jon from Robert. That is why he's so disgusted and upset when Robert talks about sending a hired knife to kill Dany. He's feeling protective of Jon and projecting that on to Dany. There was also his honor, but the above is the root of his visceral emotional reaction.

because they were in the endgame, now
it was the only way

>If Stannis gets the throne and Dany invades, what the fuck is he going to do?
He won't because he is going to die. How (the Others, Boltons, fAegon, etc.,) I don't know. If he did survive fAegon and the Others, he would be destroyed by Dany's dragons.

Cersei will blow up the Sept, fAegon will come in and overthrow her (and be a Mary Sue whom everybody loves in the process, Stannis will die somewhere along the way, Daenerys will invade King's Landing, the Others will arrive and be dealt with, Dany will burn down King's Landing and Jon will stab her and fuck off beyond the Wall for the rest of his life. Faggot King Bran will rule Westeros (outside of the North) for some reason.

Zombies would just starve him out
Moron

build it around the weirwood so he can eat the sap

lmao what the fuck did Howland Reed eat while he was in a tree north of the wall?
Three Eyed Raven eats dreamcorn

>He fails to see the potential of creating a house based on adaptation and meritocratic
How are you so blind user?

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>king of the Isles and the Norf

Why the fuck did the iron retards even invade the north for? Why didn’t they invade the Riverlands? They think they could hold winterfell?

Thats a dude

GODS this thread is dull

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It seems like everything had to go perfectly for the Lannisters to "win" the War of the Five Kings. They lost battle after battle, but all their enemies fucked over each other. There was even a shadow baby deus ex machina thrown in for good measure.

Your mother was a dumb whore with a fat arse, did you know that?

We needed more Jaime and Brienne moments

Will TWOW have them shagging?

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TWOW will not be released

Robb looks fly as fuck there

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I've resigned myself to this fact. 10 years from now, when the 7th and final spin-off of GoT winds down on HBO, he'll post a angry blog update calling all of his fans whores and disappear from public life.

Cat + Walder = Jon
It is known

Remember when episode 4 came out and all the showfags screeched at Brienne and Jamie fucking, even though that shit has been build up for years?

There are like 100 different Walders user, you need to be a bit more specific.

Be fair, some of GRRM's descriptions of people and places are fucking absurd

Who do you think?

Now the dust has settled, was George wrong to kill off Ned?

Hodor?

Episode 4 had relationship drama after relationship drama, even with the pseudo-relationship between Sansa and Sandor, compacted in a few consecutive scenes. My mother, who barely watched the show, asked me if they were supposed to be a couple. Braime is obviously supposed to be a thing, but the way it was presented was tiresome.

Reminder that this scene literally happened in the books - B/J nonbelievers BTFO

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Ned "Neddard" Stank

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OATHSEX

The sex that was promised

How the fuck does George plan to reveal R+L=J to everyone in the books, and have them believe it's true at all, let alone that Jon is a legitimate heir? Or even that Jon died and came back to life? I feel like it will end up being irrelevant like in the show.

It'll be the same as Cerceis children being bastards, people will pick and choose whether to believe it based on what's most politically convenient.

That's sound like utter fucking shit.

Dust hasn't settled yet. Hell, the fire is still burning.

ill kill you

GRRM told Dabid that R + L = J, but he neglected to mention that it was actually Robert + Lyanna = Jon.
Lyanna fled Robert because he raped her in a drunken stupor, knowing her brother would never believe her or betray Bobby

howland reed

Why would anyone believe him

he was there

You are in serious denial.

George said he has written himself into a corner by prematurely killing off a character he later realized he needed for a crucial plot element, and that's supposedly why the books are taking so long. If that's true I suspect that the plot element is Jon's parentage.

Not really.
I couldn't give a dusty fuck about this series anymore, it just seems virtually impossible to pull off Rhaegar/Lyanna/Jon at this point without it feeling forced and ultimately unnecessary.
Just look what happened in the show.
Dude I read it in some Maester's diary, also your brother is in the fucking matrix.
Shit is like a bad joke at this point.

Why would anyone believe he was there, how would his testimony be any different than Cersei's claim that her kids are Robert's. A northern lord claiming that the eldest living son of the Warden of the North (who was a good friend of his) is actually the heir to the throne is suspicious as fuck.

hes magic

Daily reminder that there are two versions of Howland Reed and he's been playing 4D chess.

>killing off a character he later realized he needed for a crucial plot element
We went over this, it's killing off Kevan.
That act destroys the Tyrells motivation to remain in the capital and destabilizes Kings Landing faster than Griff can get there

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AH

People will take Rhaegar's word for it, once he removes the glamour that makes him look like Mance.

>If that's true I suspect that the plot element is Jon's parentage.
Jon's parentage will never be relevant outside of the dragonriding skill

DUN

>it just seems virtually impossible to pull off Rhaegar/Lyanna/Jon at this point without it feeling
Whether you think it's good or not is irrelevant. I don't like King Bran, but that doesn't mean it won't happen.

Jon is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. His entire elopement with her was retarded--just like many of the other things that GRRM wrote. It's canon, get over it.

It's canon until it gets retconned.
Such is the way of such contrary authors like Fat Fuck.
Fanfiction theories are much more interesting and funner to discuss than these garbage books

>once he removes the glamour that makes him look like Mance.
This makes Rheagar look a even worse
>Plunge your dick into a shewolf
>Plunge the Kingdom into full on war
>Get countless fathers and sons killed
>Including your son and wife who you brutaly abandonnend
>Run north
>Unite the fucking savages everybody hates
Rhaegar is better off dead

>it just seems virtually impossible to pull off Rhaegar/Lyanna/Jon at this point without it feeling forced and ultimately unnecessary.
this is purely a problem of irl time passing
if the books had been released in their entirety back in the 90s nobody would be complaining about this, nobody would finish reading the series in the span of a few weeks or months and think "ugh, predictable"
but with years and years between books to think and theorize...

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I mean it would be very consistent to his character of introducing unnecessary discord

When will /got/ become /trash/?

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R+L=J was a "fanfiction theory" for two decades. You just don't like that it was confirmed now and that your own theory was wrong.

Don't get mad, because it's not like Jon being King is going to happen anyway.

Not to mention an abhorrent television adaptation that seems ambiguous over what is and isn't comprised of details directly from the author.
I'm convinced ASOIAF will retain a better legacy if GRRM just croaks and doesn't try to tie up loose ends.
Sometimes ambiguity is better. Shame Dabid never figured that out before that retarded reveal of the Night King's origins.

>prematurely killing off a character he later realized he needed for a crucial plot element
I refuse to believe this
He has a dozen characters everywhere that could easily fill any necessary role
It can't all hinge on one dude or dudette

No u.

Let's just say the show is canon and retarded, but then we assume things happen book style from then on - Who is the first to rise up against this retarded cavalcade of dumbfuckery that's now in charge of King's Landing?

Who takes the Throne? Is there another civil war?

NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED NED

I'm not mad, what are you on about?
I haven't been reading these books for two decades, it's not like I've invested a whole lot into them.
Whether my theory is correct or not isn't going to fix the shit writing, and that's the main issue.

Better ending

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>Who takes the Throne? Is there another civil war?
Nothing personnel

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well grrm does love ambiguous endings, so if he does somehow manage to finish before he dies of fat I imagine it'll be a lot less clear-cut than "tyrion making jokes to a small council of fanservice"

>NED
What would you need Ned for?

#KingYoungGriff

Seasons 5-7 were just as bad as season 8.

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Oh yeah? He and what company?

*music swells*
*closeup of my face as I smirk*

"A golden one."

And who....

S
>the renlyfag calling someone else a degenerate
The irony

The golden one, of course.
>Based Young Griff is gonna dab on Tommen, Cersei, the Tyrells, Stannis, Littlefinger, Euron, Dany and Robert's ghost all at once when he takes the throne

How can one man be so based?

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>Dies to a kraken the ceiling
What did D.B. and David mean by this?
I expected Jaime to die shielding Cersie from the rubble, and for Tyrion to find her elsewhere holding his golden hand before sitting next to each other and watching King's Landing burn

Is Ramsay the first born in the books as well? I know he has a legitimate brother he kills but I can't remember which is older.

Domeric was slightly older than Ramsay IIRC

>Over the Narrow Sea? I Suppose He Will Bring with Him an Army of Elephants!

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>D.B. and I sort of forgot about the budget for elephants

I think the fact that he invited the unsullied the stay and not the Dothraki shows he didn’t want any foreigners who can reproduce to stick around. Based Davos.

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Domeric was older and also a pretty chill guy. Shame Ramsay killed him

>That would be quite a feat, even for the great Home Box Office.

Davos, along with everybody, didn't suggest that Jon should be King a single time. Jon's ancestry was so important that he couldn't even be King-Consort, but then he stabbed Daenerys and it stopped mattering anymore. I know Davos didn't know (and probably shouldn't even be speaking in this meeting), but it is truly bizarre how everybody Jon knew used him as a pawn and then threw him away once he stopped being useful.

The fact that neither Tyrion nor the Starks spoke up really makes it look like they were planning to just use him and then get rid him, Jon turned to be a chump.

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Jon was manipulated into killing his aunt/love interest and then he bent the fucking knee to his faggot, cripple, malicious cousin--who has been taken over by The Three-Eyed Raven, by the way. Jon dying while riding Rhaegal would have been a more satisfying ending for him, because it would have made Dany burning down King's Landing more believable.

The peasants. Bran has no money, food or army and any kingdom that does have an army won't care to take the city and shoulder the burden of keeping everyone fed or rebuilding

>Jamie dies by throwing away his redemption arc ad getting crushed by bricks.

What's with faegon fags?

Dany is my queen

Who were some very fat people, or generally big guys in history? I'm trying to make as many variations on GODS I WAS STRONG THEN as I can.

>tfw we didn't get a whole season to wallow in "crazy danny"
WHY EVEN LIVE

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And through the smoke another wedge of armored riders came, on barded horses. Floating above them were the largest banners yet, royal standards as big as sheets; a yellow one with long pointed tongues that showed a flaming heart, and another like a sheet of beaten gold, with a black stag prancing and rippling in the wind.

Robert, Jon thought for one mad moment, remembering poor Owen, but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was “Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!”

I know Ser Dunk was a big lad. Wyman Manderly is big. Sam of course. Um, Bobby B in his prime was a big. I dunno, you've probably thought of more people by now.

D&D really expected everyone to take Greyworm seriously for some stupid reason and expected the audience to do the same. This why in the books I imagine GRRMs plan is for Jon to choose to fuck off with the Wildlings after killing Dany and not wanting to have any part in the seven kingdoms. For some reason the show runners just refused to go with that obvious and more understandable conclusion.

Its terrible, as if people 800 years ago didnt care about their clothing and were content to just wear dark leather or random rags all the time. The fucking beggar monks wore the same brown tunic every day a Knight with his own keep and land would never wear shit like that

BASED
I BEND THE KNEE
STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS

>legitimate heir, fantastic leader, loved by everyone: "I don't want it"
>you heard him folks, he doesn't want to be King, send him to the frozen waste, hurry it up

>ominous autistic crippled boy with zero claim that's not even the same person as the body: "I don't want anymore"
>pretty pleeeeaaaseee?

In real history, there's the obvious one.

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>"I couldn't think of a finer man for the task"
>"Retake the iron throne from the Lannisters?"
>"Deliver it to Aegon, on a plate?"
>"These memes should be held in your honour"
>"When i heard Young Griff had you in mind, i can't say i was suprised....."
>"After all, you were his fathers most trusted friend"
>"Not to mention your accomplishments at the siege of Griffin's Roost"
>"And the way you, succesfully roused the golden company to fight at Aegon's side"
>"You are the last of the great commanders, and your loyalty is clearly above question"
>"However, the city of King's Landing is a wild and unpredictable place......."
>"A lot can happen out of Storm's Ends' reach"
>"A man might look about him, and think perhaps, the iron throne, is rightfully his....."
>"Good luck, Jon Connington."

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The show let Tyrion walk around freely when Daenerys KNEW he betrayed her. He could have picked up a weapon and killed her after the scene where he found Jaime's and Cersei's bodies.

Daenerys walks around with no bodyguards at all. She goes from eyeing Jon with distrust to becoming completely obsessed with him the very next scene. I guess the audience is supposed to believe that Drogon did a complete sweep of the throne room, landed outside, and then took a nap.

Grey Worm is established to not like Jon in episode 4. He was slicing throats of prisoners on the queen's orders, but doesn't immediately kill Jon after he kills the queen.

I can go on, but we all get the point. It is truly bizarre how we got to this "ending."

Game of Thrones - 300 years after Daenarys conquest.

> House Blackwater sits on the Iron Throne, House Stark only last one generation since King Bran had no children while Lord Bronn of Black Water had more children and bastards than the extinct house Frey. They promptly executed all over lords coming for the elections and took the Crown. Their sigils is a black house with a naked woman inside.
> The Wildlings are now mostly instinct, ravaged by consanguinity since only a few dozens survived the Long Night, mostly women and young girls who all had children from either Jon or Thormund. They failed to realise they could now trade with the North now the Wall has a big hole in it.
> The North realised their new independance meant shit without food and they had to sell most of their population as slaves for the Iron Bank to avoid starvation. The rest of Westeros is now considering building a new Wall at the Neck to avoid starving Northeners coming to their lands.
> The people of Naath were so surprised to see a benevolent army of Unsullied coming to their shores and quickly all die from the Butterfly disease, they choosed to honor their memory by forming their own Unsullied army, but keeping their cocks.

This is literally how history works.

So why read/watch the books/show when we could just pick up a history book? The point of a story is to do something real life can't, like a mystical ice elf killing everyone.

simple as

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kek

Can we talk about how Jon gets sent to the wall because Yara (and what fucking army?) and a few thousand Unsullied said so? I don't see how letting the North secede for free or how letting enemies get what they want (which is retarded because Jon should he dead already) is a good start to King Bran's reign.

I'm rewatching the series and it makes me immensely sad knowing Ned is going to die when I'm watching all the kino scenes. You ever rewatch a movie you've already seen and a part of you has hope it will somehow have a different outcome?

How the fuck were they an "enemy army"?
Jon was still the head of house Stark when the kingsmoot happened, not Sansa.
Jon pledged allegiance to Dany. So did that Martell prince, Yara, and probably a few more of the nobles present. Of course he's going to get punished, he illegally murdered his liege and broke his vows to her.
Then Bran, Danys chosen succesor, agrees to punish him.

The unsullied where the royal army, user.

Jon wanted it

>The point of a story is to do something real life can't, like a mystical ice elf killing everyone.
Because of people like you, the world is awash with capeshit.

i like to believe bran has zero magic at all and just bluffed his way to the throne.

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Is there anyone on YouTube more based than our supreme autismo, The Dragon Demands?

>did the hard grueling work of watching hundreds of hours of D&D interviews and other material pertaining to the show's development in order to get to the heart of the matter as to exactly why it turned to shit

>knows David Benioff more than David Benioff knows himself

>always speaks in an unapologetic butthurt tone that shows he doesn't give a fuck about being mocked by d&d dicksuckers and /r/asoiafcirclejerk

>has the ability to make 2 hour long whiny autistic rants very entertaining and informative, his unabashed asspain makes you want to join him in energized camaraderie

>patriotic Stannisfag who suddenly flies into a rage when he remembers what D&D did

>employs quirky but enthralling catchphrases in his social media battles against his enemies like "Rhaenyra has an army" and "I am the law" and "welcome to a world with rules"

youtu.be/IhHBw4oH1zc?t=1174

>meandering rambling about the show and books
>all of a sudden

"STANNIS! STANNIS! THE MAN WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN KING! A MAN I WOULD HAVE FOLLOWED INTO THE FREEZING DEPTHS OF HELL AND BACK....WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS WHEN THESE ASSHATS SEE THAT STANNIS DEFEATS RAMSAY AT THE BATTLE OF ICE? THAT ORDER TRIUMPHS OVER CHAOS? A MAN AS CLOSE TO AN IMPERIAL GUARD COMMISSAR AS WE ARE GOING TO GET? A MAN BEHOLDEN TO HIS DUTY AND HIS PRINCIPLES?"

New Video, the supreme autismo himself in the flesh: youtube.com/watch?v=g6gMhaJC9N0

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his entire plot is confirmed to be pointless
along with euron

>My first was some tripfag in a thread back during season 2. Dumb fag thought he could end the shitposting with a single reply, came wailing at me until i crushed his (you) with a 40line text.... gods i was STRONG back then.... he couldve just lurked moar and today danyfags would make his life miserable.... what a stupid boy. MOREE BOAAAARRR

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I've been rereading the books and Davos is such a damn good character.They did him dirty in the last few seasons but i'm really curious where his path in the books is going to take him

>Bran isn't actually paralyzed, he's just too lazy to walk

He's great at shitting on dabid but far too much of a leftoid to be called based.

Registered Democrat, proud Clinton voter, constantly whines about white privilege and sexism. Worse than Preston "Cuck" Jacobs who went off on a tangent about hating conservatives mid-stream.

>live in the timeline where Arthur has snowball fights with his nieces and nephews when the royal family visits Winterfell

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They better do. And hopefully we don't get Jamie crawl back to Cersi after that.
They are the only people I really wish a happy end for in this series. And Davos.

>So did that Martell prince,
And the Dornish prince cares why? He has never even met Daenerys.
>Yara
Who cares about what an Iron Islander with no army thinks? Or are we supposed to believe that all of her forces are replenished despite them killing each other and Drogon burning them up?
>Of course he's going to get punished, he illegally murdered his liege and broke his vows to her.
His liege lord murdered a million people. Are we supposed to believe that the people of Westeros care because a Greyjoy and an Unsullied said so?

What makes sending somebody to the wall an enforceable punishment when the North is an independent kingdom? Is the North supposed to carry out the South's punishment based on good faith? Would the South antagonize the North and potentially start a war just so their punishments can be enforced?

kek based

He actually helps right wingers by being so autistic that it makes the left look bad, so that makes him even more based

Remi der grrm hasn't written a single word of TWOW and he's selling asoiaf to the highest bidder once he gets bored of pretending to care

>And the Dornish prince cares why? He has never even met Daenerys.
I don't know, but that's what we're told.
>Or are we supposed to believe that all of her forces are replenished despite them killing each other and Drogon burning them up?
If it can happen to the Dothraki, unsullied, Northmen, valemen etc. why not the ironborn?
>His liege lord murdered a million people
So? This isn't the U.N, there are no rules in war.
>Are we supposed to believe that the people of Westeros care because a Greyjoy and an Unsullied said so?
Why would the Westerlands, Reach, Iron islands, Dorne or the stormlands care about Jon either way? How many outside of the north gives a flying fuck about what happens to him? Why would they risk yet ANOTHER war over Jon?
>What makes sending somebody to the wall an enforceable punishment when the North is an independent kingdom?
The sic kingdoms still grossly outclass the barren north in terms of strenght, it would be suicide for them to deny the Iron throne.
>Would the South antagonize the North and potentially start a war just so their punishments can be enforced?
It would be a war the south would win very quickly, what can the north do to repel rest of Westeros at this point?

Didnt GRRM say Brienne was a Descendant of Ser Dunc (the tall)?

No it was a brilliant move. It was a huge shock, makes the first novel almost an encapsulated story, has a shit ton of repercussions throughout the greater saga, and also I'm not sure what else could have been done with Ned anyway.

It is implied, but i think he will straight up reveal it at the end of the dunk and egg series.

> Luc Besson
> I've gone too far in few places

LITTLEFINGER: Maester Samwell, I’m small council
Samwell nods, nervous. Littlefinger hands a sack to the coach driver

DRIVER: He wasn’t alone
Littlefinger, confused, spots the hooded men. He turns to Samwell

LITTLEFINGER: Uhh, you don’t get to bring friends

SAMWELL: (Shaken) They are not my friends

DRIVER: Don’t worry. No charge for them

LITTLEFINGER: Why would I want them?

DRIVER: They were trying to grab your prize (smiles). They work for the pirate.
The crow’s eye
LITTLEFINGER: EURON? (Excited)
The driver nods. Littlefinger turns to the Arryn household guards

LITTLEFINGER: Get ‘em on board, I’ll send a raven

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reminder that GRRM was going to have the Targaryens be black but an astute publisher told him LOLNO

What's going on with Robb?

>I don't know, but that's what we're told.
"Because bad writing" is not a good argument? Are we agreeing on this now? I can't tell by this statement.
>If it can happen to the Dothraki, unsullied, Northmen, valemen etc. why not the ironborn?
So again bad writing. What is the point you are trying to make? I say Jon's punishment is illogical. You are fighting me on this by pointing out writing you admit is illogical.
>So? This isn't the U.N, there are no rules in war.
It doesn't matter. People are going to care that a million other people were murdered.
>Why would the Westerlands, Reach, Iron islands, Dorne or the stormlands care about Jon either way? How many outside of the north gives a flying fuck about what happens to him? Why would they risk yet ANOTHER war over Jon?
Risked a war how? The Unsullied just left before Jon's "punishment" could be carried out. And again, the "punishment" is not enforceable.
>The sic kingdoms still grossly outclass the barren north in terms of strenght, it would be suicide for them to deny the Iron throne.
Again, how is it enforceable? How would they even know? Why spark a war because one person didn't get sent to the wall?

No, he just said that it could have been a good idea when asked about "WHY NO POCs IN YOUR FANTASY SERIES INSPIRED IN MEDIEVAL EUROPE???????" and then said that it was probably for the best that it didn't happen because a lot of Targs were bad people and blacks are only allowed to be portrayed as 100% good

But Ned wouldn't be lord of Winterfell in a world with no Bobellion

My gripe with your original post was that the unsullied were an "enemy army" when they literally were the royal army. They were not some invading force. It also made sense for the majority of the nobles to agree to a punishment, since in their eyes Jon just fucking killed their queen who he had pledged himself to.

>how is it enforceable?
>"hey Sansa, do this thing"
>"NOH"
>Alright, we're invading then
That simple.

I think the important question to ask is WHY they went through with the punishment after the unsullied left. And for that, i have no fucking clue. That part i agree makes no sense at all. It's not like Bran would care either way, and Sansa could just hide Jon so none would be the wiser.

Jon is better off chilling beyond the wall with his wildling bros than staying with Sansa who'd probably poison him after a week with him to secure her rule

Why didn't Jaime just kill the pyromancers, lock up Aerys in a room and wait a few hours until his father's and Ned's forces arrived to deal with him?

EDO TENSEI

Do you would kill only the pyromancers?

>Why didn't Jaime just kill the pyromancers
Because he wanted the glory of killing Aerys

>My gripe with your original post was that the unsullied were an "enemy army" when they literally were the royal army.
Royal based on what? They are a foreign invading force who are loyal to a dead mass murderer. Are we supposed to believe they would be given respect now even though they were shown none despite helping to end the apocalypse? It's bad writing.
>They were not some invading force.
They absolutely were.
>It also made sense for the majority of the nobles to agree to a punishment, since in their eyes Jon just fucking killed their queen who he had pledged himself to.
So all the nobles would agree to punish Jon for killing Dany even though the show went out of its fucking way to show that Westeros has no sympathy towards Daenerys? The North doesn't like. The Vale doesn't like her. The Reach doesn't like her whether Sam or Bronn rules it. The Stormlands don't like her, unless Gendry is so grateful for becoming ruler of them that he would go against Davos and have Jon be punished. The Westerlands are controlled by a Lannister who told Jon to kill Dany. Dorne would have little opinion either way. The only reason I can see it caring is because a Targ died, but Jon is a Targ, too, with a better claim. It would be pure plot contrivance.

The only ones who would actually care are Yara (for some reason) and Grey Worm.

The punishment is NOT enforceable. Jon could have easily have been given some farm somewhere and nobody would have known. All seeing Bran wouldn't have even given a fuck. He gave up a kingdom for free, but he cares that one dude is punished for doing something that benefitted him?

Get the fuck out of here.

Does Cat get off watching her beta orbiter being bullied by big dick northern chads?

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Littlefinger brings the captured men in the Eyrie
The three hooded men kneel by the moon door, hands tied
LITTLEFINGER: What were you doing in the middle of the Vale?
The hooded man says nothing, Littlefinger pulls out a crossbow
LITTLEFINGER: Lord Robin knows that only me, my men and Maester Samwell here, but only one of you
Littlefinger opens the cargo door, his men drag the hooded man out into the howling wind
LITTLEFINGER: FIRST ONE TO TALK GETS TO SHTAY IN THE EYRIE
LITTLEFINGER: WHO PAID YOU TO GRAB MAESTER SHAMWELL
Nothing.
Littlefinger fires out the open door and his men yank the hooded man back in, clubbing him quiet
LITTLEFINGER: HE DIDN'T FLY SHO GOOD, WHO WANTS TO TRY NEXT?
His men grab the second hooded man, they hang him out the door
LITTLEFINGER: TELL ME ABOUT EURON, WHY DOES HE WEAR THE EYEPATCH?
The prisoner says nothing
Littlefinger presses his valyrian steel knife on his throat, he draws blood, nothing
LITTLEFINGER: LOTTA LOYALTY FOR A SELLSWORD
THIRD PRISONER: Maybe he's wondering why someone would stab a man, before throwing him out of the door
LITTLEFINGER: Wise man, huh, at least you can talk, who are you?
THIRD PRISONER: We are nothing, we are mere driftwood on the sea, and nobody cared who I was until I put on the patch
Littlefinger, wary, approaches the Third Prisoner - pulls off his hood, revealing a smiling pirate with a leather eyepatch. The eye behind it is cold. Still. This is Euron.
EURON: Who we are does not matter. What
matters is our plan
LITTLEFINGER: If I pull thish off will you die?
EURON: It would be extremely painful
LITTLEFINGER: That's a sick eye
EURON: For you
LITTLEFINGER: Was getting caught part of your plan?
EURON: Of course! Maester Samwell refused our offer in favor of yours, we had to find out what he told you
SAMWELL: Nothing! I said nothing!
LITTLEFINGER: Well congratulations! You got yourself caught, now what's the next step of your master plan
EURON: Destroying the Vale, WITH NO SURVIVORS

Season 5-6 got a pass because they still had good moments that elevated the rest of the season.
Season 7 is widely regarded as bad because it had fewer of those good moments. Season 8 tops them all when it comes to fucking up a season because those moments were missing apart from 12 minutes screentime throughout all episodes.

>Royal based on what? They are a foreign invading force who are loyal to a dead mass murderer. Are we supposed to believe they would be given respect now even though they were shown none despite helping to end the apocalypse? It's bad writing.
Dany was the queen, they were her army. Royal army. Is this fucking Cersei i'm arguing with?
>They absolutely were
Not from team Dany's AKA the winning side's perspective.
>the show went out of its fucking way to show that Westeros has no sympathy towards Daenerys
Nice headcanon, show me a scene that shows that the reach, dorne, stormlands, dragonstone, iron islands, riverlands and vale all universally disliked her.
>Dorne would have little opinion either way
More headcanon with no proof to back up with
>The punishment is NOT enforceable.
Yes it is, dumbass. If Bran REALLY wanted Jon to be at the wall, he could have. He just doesn't give a fuck.

>Jon could have easily have been given some farm somewhere and nobody would have known. All seeing Bran wouldn't have even given a fuck. He gave up a kingdom for free, but he cares that one dude is punished for doing something that benefitted him?
Who are you talking to here, i said in the very post you're replying to that i agree with this, you schizo.

Desegregate? As an adjective, does that mean his tax policy is wealth redistribution?

>Dany was the queen, they were her army. Royal army. Is this fucking Cersei i'm arguing with?
Dany was the queen according to the Dothraki, Yara, the Unsullied and Jon, who killed her. She went mad for no reason BECAUSE SHE WASN'T RESPECTED as queen for no reason. It is amazing to me how you can just ignore her disrespect when season 8 was largely about her disrespect.
>Not from team Dany's AKA the winning side's perspective.
Again, Yara and Grey Worm. The Dornish guy shouldn't even give a fuck.
>Nice headcanon, show me a scene that shows that the reach, dorne, stormlands, dragonstone, iron islands, riverlands and vale all universally disliked her.
Daenerys SAYING that she will never be loved in Westeros is the justification the show gived. It is completely unearned and nob-sensical, but that is D&D's writing.
>More headcanon with no proof to back up with
You have no proof that they would either.
>Yes it is, dumbass. If Bran REALLY wanted Jon to be at the wall, he could have. He just doesn't give a fuck.
You are fucking agreeing with me, you fucking idiot. You are agreeing that the ending is illogical and then trying to point out how it is logical. Fuck off.

>Dany was the queen according to the Dothraki, Yara, the Unsullied and Jon, who killed her.
And Tyrion, the head of house Lannister, the prince of Dorne, and Gendry, head of house Baratheon. Did you watch the series?
So that makes Dorne, Iron Islands, North, Stormlands, Dragonstone, and crownlands loyal to her, westerlands openly against her but since then defeated, reach who were were split for and against Dany, and the Riverlands amd Vale, who were neutral. Yeah, she just had Yara and the unsullied, lmao.
>The Dornish guy shouldn't even give a fuck
Why? He acknowledged Dany as his queen, and swore fealty to her.
>Daenerys SAYING that she will never be loved in Westeros is the justification the show gived. It is completely unearned and nob-sensical, but that is D&D's writing.
Ok fair enough, but the backing of the nobility and back of the people are two different things.
>You are fucking agreeing with me, you fucking idiot
The punishment is entirely enforceable, i don't get why you are so hung up over this. It's not about whether the punishment IS enforceable (it is), it's anyone WOULD enforce it after the unsullied left, especially Sansa and the north.
>You are agreeing that the ending is illogical and then trying to point out how it is logical
>I think the important question to ask is WHY they went through with the punishment after the unsullied left. And for that, i have no fucking clue. That part i agree makes no sense at all. It's not like Bran would care either way, and Sansa could just hide Jon so none would be the wiser.

How the fuck am i saying that the end is logical?

And why are you seething so much, calm down buddy.

Tyrion wanted Jon to kill Dany, but you would think Tyrion would punish Jon for it? You're retarded.

Where did i say Tyrion wanted Jon punished?

How would things work out with both Ned and Jon at the wall if they're supposed to forsake family?

The marriage annulment being found in Oldtown could be from what Martin told them

nothing makes sense, you two

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You brought up Tyrion as a Daenerys supporter. What the fuck is your argument for that when he very clearly wasn't by the time Jon's (offscreen) trial happened?

You can recognize someone as queen and not support them at the same time, user.

The show was so cute back then, what happened?

Which isn't relevant to the argument at all. I asked who the Dany supporters are, and Tyrion was brought up. He definitely wasn't by the time Jon's trial happened.

Why do people think Davos should hold a grudge against him? Tyrion didn't even see him; he didn't give a specific order to kill him. When you take your son to assault a city, what do you expect would happen? Assaulters are always going to heavy casualties, it's hardly Tyrion's fault for trying to prevent Stannis from sacking the city for the second time.

>Dany was the queen according to
Fucking Tyrion, for example.

Recognizing someone as queen =/= supporting someone

Articulate yourself better next time.

Based Bobby B!

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You're being pedantic.

Not my fault you wrote one thing but meant another.

STANNIS BARATHEON IS THE ONE TRUE KING OF WESTEROS!

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STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS

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He does want vengeance for his dead sons in the books but I really doubt that he'd hold a personal grudge against someone that ditched the Lannister cause.

>Searching for posts that contain ‘stannis*’. Returning only first 100000 of 237156 results found.

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Does anyone have that GRRM pasta of

"did you do it?"
"aye, mayhaps"

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>Before departing to the Tower of the Hand for a good night's sleep, Tyrion turns around and looks at the royal couple, her grace Queen Daenerys and Prince consort Jon Stark, and says, "truly, it was a song of ice and fire"
>"more like a Game of Thrones", says Varys who had been hiding in the shadows until then
>both laugh
>"Aaahh, but was it not truly, shall we say, a clash of kings" remarks a handsomely robed Littlefinger as he strolls into the Great Hall
>"Mayhaps we should ponder how, at the very end it was merely a storm of swords, my friend" Varys retorts
>"Aye, might as well call the bloody damn thing a feast for crows," says Sandor Clegane as he strides in clutching his battered left arm
>"Do I not get a say?" remarks an amused Dany. "Was it not a Dance with Dragons?"
>"Yes, though twas the Winds of Winter that brought us all together," answers Jon
>"I-I o-only hope, that, in t-the end, we can all h-hold tight to our hearts t-this Dream of Spring" a muffled Pycelle squeaks from his deathbed
>Tyrion resumes his walk and begins whistling the Rains of Castamere as the credits fade-in
>and who

glorious

Usurperfags SEETHING

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Surcoats are fucking baller you gay nigger. It's amazing the soldiers in the show could differentiate between enemy and ally half the time.

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house baratheon never successfully united the seven kingdoms, though. they can be kings of the stormlands but the seven kingdoms as a single political entity belong to the targaryens

Based, surcoats are cool

Undead Dragon Fuhrer Dany and her Valyrian Empire

t. Viserys

>a muffled Pycelle squeaks from his deathbed

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Now that Cleganebowl happened, was it hype?

fuck no. made no sense and the hounds whole arc was pointless because they decided to throw in that bullshit at the last second

>killed in a battle
>murder

Wut

It wasn't even the hounds third best fight.

oh yes, he only burned my son to death in a battle context which means i’m totally fine with it and bear no resentment towards him at all

Name the top 3, then.

>the greatest dynasty that Westeros ever had got overthrown in a war that lasted less than a year?

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beric, brienne, biter and co. if blackwater counts as a fourth then it should be up there as well

I BEND THE KNEE

he's only had 4 real fights
1. vs beric
2. at the inn
3. vs brienne
4. bowl
in blackwater he was just carving through extras

The Southron Conspiracy runs deeper than that

1. Beric
2. Gregor (season 1)
3. the butcher's boy

1. Brienne vs Sandor
2. Beric vs Sandor
3. Inn chicken fight

I BEND THE KNEE

There was also the first Cleganebowl and Joffrey's nameday tournament