He is a hack and the movies based off his work far exceed the quality of his awful source material. Prove me wrong

He is good at starting things, building mystery and suspense, but can't carry the stories to the end and falters without an satisfying conclusions, sorta like JJ Abrams

I can't, because you're right. Although it looks like they're going to do the Paul Bunyan bit in IT pt.2.
You must also me a big fan of the king james bible and mein kampf. Justin Bieber has sold a lot of albums, he's pretty good, right?

most of his earlier works were his best and recycles a lot of ideas... but he's cool.

at least he knows how to actually sit down and write pages and get stuff out the door.

Dolores Claiborne was really good.
Stand by Me was solid. Pretty much all the short stories that he did that got adopted to film were good I'm guessing because they were short and didn't get fussed up in the mire of a novel length writing.

>Fourth
you fucked up, wizard and glass is the best one.

I'm correcting myself, here. Sometimes they come back (and the sequels) as well as Children of the Corn were shit.

what is it with king and retards? Just about every book has a literal retard.

You're right. I loved that one. Would love to see that as just a stand alone movie.

lol, SJW before his time?

The best quality of his books is his ability at getting you in the mindset of characters and understanding their deepest fears/insecurities.
This is basically impossible to translate into film.

Shawshank did it flawlessly.

He’s a decent author who wrote some insanely popular books that were turned into insanely successful box office hits (Green Mile, Shawshank, It, The Shining). His magnum opus The Dark Tower is obviously a series he wrote with ZERO idea how to finish.

"On Writing" is my favorite book by him and he addresses this notion specifically. And it's true. One can KIND of get the notion across with good actors, like some of the better James Bond films, but rarely.

Loved how he just wrote himself into it and had the characters try to save him from addiction so that he could finish the story he had no idea of how to.

I totally agree with you user.

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If you read the shining you would know it's actually a scary book. Scarier than the movie.

lol good one bro

Makes the world feel real instead of a perfect tv set where everyone is a normie.

Fun fact, he doesn't write most of his books. He's an ideas guy. Writes an outline and a few passages and hires sad motherfucks to write the stories for him.

You cannot be proven wrong, as his writing alone has paved the way for the dullest franchise in the history of movie franchises. Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

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>retard
>guy with mommy issues
>obvious self insert who is also a writer (May also have mommy issues)
King is a hack

I always wondered if the TV ending was batshit insane due to budget issues or due to King just being weird.

It is scarier, the hotel doesn't feel haunted in the movie. In the book every creak and noise in the hotel is scary, even the bath lady scene is scarier.

He basically writes anime that has actual depth instead of surface level psychology.
Also his children characters feel like children and his adults have adult problems, aside from the big bad terrorizing them.

I'm halfway through the book right now. I'm at the hornet scene. The hotel hasn't gotten weird yet... Loved the movie and all the autistic YouTubers' videos de-constructing it are fun, too.

When I read him first, I was in 7th grade and yeah, the kids were real. Although, I didn't get the motivations behind a lot of the adults, though... I got their problems but they seemed a bit outlandish. Perhaps that's my upbringing.

You don’t like him because he doesn’t like tr*mp

Lmao

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>thinks Oswald was an lone assassin pretty cringe and bluepilled

He was

Usually I can do nothing but loathe modern authors because of how dumbshit and pretentious they are but King's books have actual interest.
Also this.

>this ad hominem
take your fanfiction-tier writer to /r/books

Yeah pretty much,
He makes better paper weights than literature

You know its true, Trumplet.

The only thing scary about the Shining is the prospect of reading it a second time.

For what his stories are, commercial Fiction, they're actually not bad, and he's not a terrible writer given this literary style and technique by any means. It's also undeniable that he's an imaginative and very creative storyteller. Is his writing high quality literature? No, but I don't it tries to be, and King knows his audience very well .

Lol. I'm halfway through it and I pretty much use it for bathroom reading. It's better than I could do, though..,

Agreed, trusty, loyal reader.
Or whatever he calls them.

In terms of movies:
Carrie > The Shining > The Mist > Misery > Pet Cemetery > The Secret Window > Christine > Cujo

Secret Window! Forgot about that one. Trips don't lie when Johnny Depp is involved at his peak. That corn in the braces... An unexpected ending, for sure.

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Left some out. I forgot how much of an idea man he was
Carrie (1976) > The Shining > The Mist > Misery > It (1990) > The Green Mile > Stand By Me > Sleepwalkers > Creepshow > Pet Cemetery > The Secret Window > Christine > Children of the Corn > Cujo
None of the movies are bad but it's true that his writing style is awful

Dolores Claiborne is gripping. I find his least supernatural stuff is best but that one had a slight tad of it with reference to an eclipse.

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he's based and you're just mad his politics doesnt align with yours

The Langoliers is one of the worst executed movies in existence, but the concept of it still scares the shit out of me. If only it were done correctly.

I really miss his cocaine years

OMIGOD, you're so right!
That movie was utter SHIT. (Except for Pinochet -- riiiiiiiip). Balki saved that garbage at least for about an hour.

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This. Once he sobered up his shit sucked

That animation was laughable.

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Was this scene better in the movie?

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You just don't like him cause he (rightfully) shits on Trump.

whoops, should have been:

>fat kid makes her cum

Epic

based pedo writing and getting away with it

He looks like a Finn.

Can you name one? He wrote a lot of good premises when he was high as hell but all his stories collapse into B movie garbage in the final half because he has no way to actually end his ideas other than with a big spoopy chase and fight scene, the true hack go to. The only book I can recall where he doesn't end it like a Roger Corman movie is Dolores Claiborne, which is also his best, and only in Misery is the tense final fight justified.

Plus King wholesale rips off other - better - stories. It's almost shocking plagiarism in some cases, like the Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile ripping off wholesale from Escape From Alcatraz.

>Can you name one?
The Stand

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Does anyone have the pic of IT freaking out at this bit?

Huh, I'm listening to the audiobook of It. right now and I wonder if the narrator is going to describe the little kids fucking.

His angry/borderline psycho liberal tweets turned me off a couple years ago. I wont read his stuff anymore. Not smart alienating 50% of your audience.

Escape from Alcatraz... I can see Shawshank Redemption and Rita Hayworth (or whatever it's called). But the Green Mile, eh. It's a prison story. Kinda the same. I'm not disagreeing, really. I wouldn't call it wholesale plagiarism. The idea is there, yeah... But that's nothing new. The last original ideas I've read have been from people that came out of war. Ian Flemming or Hemmingway or that dude from Afghanistan Johan or someting...

>It is scarier, the hotel doesn't feel haunted in the movie.

>impossible nightmarish architecture
>things appearing and disappearing around oblivious characters
>a foreboding sense of dread that something is always just around the corner watching
>literal ghosts appear in front of Jack and Danny and Wendy

I agree user the book with it's magic hedges coming to life and fire hoses slithering around like snakes is way scarier and a better portrayal of haunting than the movie.

The only really unsettling thing the book does better than the movie is when Danny is in the playground tunnel and the snow falls on either end and covers it and he starts hearing leaves crunching at the far end of the tunnel as something starts moving toward him. And in typical King fashion Steverino ruins the scene by having whatever it wad in there waving jovially at Danny when he looks back after escaping.

aw dang, now I know what to look for... Almost there.

Mr. Jingles was ripped off from EFA but yes The Green Mile isn't a wholesale copy of the movie like The Shawshank Redemption was. It's obvious that EFA is where King got and continues to get all his prison ideas from though. I'm honestly surprised he never ripped off Cool Hand Luke and wrote a story about an author wrongly accused of a crime working alongside a black guy wrongly accused of his crime on a demon run chain gang, though to be fair I haven't read any of his books past 2004 so for all I know he has written that.

It is just me or a lot of his story actually start pretty interesting and even suspenseful, but then every single time turn into hokey goofy shit?

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The first 5 dark tower books
The Stand
Hearts in Atlantis
Insomnia

>The Stand
It starts really good, but then it just fucking retarded later on

It’s still really well written and the dialogue is pristine

Stop using that many ellipses, this isnt reddit

It doesn't get any better than "The Body" and frankly part of the reason is that it was a short story and shorter still because it is buffered by Gordie's own stories.

The guy is a high-functioning schizophrenic who is able to pass as an author. A lot of successful artists are like that, but they never reach higher levels because they lack discipline and basically don't know when to shut up and cut something out. They write something that's shit, but don't want to throw it away, so they just say, "Oh, I'll write a character who writes shit and I'll just have him write this."

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Imagine if we filtered an ellipsis with the words "dot dot dot." That'd be hilarious.

Point taken. In fact, I haven't either... I lent a book from the local library about 3 times now and haven't touched it. "Full Dark, No Stars" I think it's called. But just never got to it. The Cool Hand Luke reference would probably be too obvious! Heh.

It's not just you. They really do that. Even the short stories (which I love) tend to even take that road. As stated before in this thread by other folks, he does have a great way of building characters and the story builds naturally but then goes off the rails, plot-wise. It just gets ridiculous. I guess that's the appeal for a lot of people. And that makes for fast sellers; not necessarily great art. Still, if you need a go-to for a camp-fire scary story, why not?

>dude what if a clown was evil

His books appeal to normies

>based
>drug addicted pedophile
yep that's what leftist consider based, no surprise there

Sorry. I have never been to reddit except for a google search. I just use those in my normal writing. I find it funny that anybody would even make a comment about that, though. I will take then into account in my future e-mails to colleagues. So, thank you for that.

It would be and I would have to laugh at myself.

The Body or Fall from Innocence are my favorite.

William Burroughs knew how to edit but I don't know if he was a great author to this day.

Thoughts on Robert McCammon? I'm 14 chapters into Swan Song and enjoying it so far.

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The made for TV movies he had a hand in sucked (stand, tommyknockers, needful things, etc), but the stuff where a pro took his ideas and ran with them could be quite good (green mile, stand by me, misery).
That truck wasn't going fast enough, though.

his good books have shit movies and his shit books have good movies

prove me wrong

>That truck wasn't going fast enough, though.
I see what you did, there.

But it's true, the Needful Things movie was good up until the end and then for whatever reason, they had the pawnshop guy ride off into the sky and the effects were so retarded, it was just head-shaking sad. IT WAS SO GOOD UP TO THAT POINT.