/got/

NIKOLAJ

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>implying he won't get his revenge

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Are the books even good or is martin just good at leading the reader into cliffhangers

I like them

It depends on what your definition of good is, they are fun

Gimme your top 5 characters

Tywin
Jon Snow
Joffrey
Olenna
Tyrion before s7-8

if you like fantasy books you'll probably like it. they're not great but they are ok

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here's a section from the audiobook of book 3 to give you an idea
youtube.com/watch?v=qyF6uAxp11I

better than the show

Jaime
Jaime
Jaime
Cersei
Tyrion

Better than the show for sure

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Why are the Dothraki still allowed to exist?

In no particular order
Sansa
Theon
Stannis
Davos
Victarion

They don't call him American Tolkien for nothing user they call him that to mock him

Dunk
Egg
Bloodraven
Bran
Ser Hyle Hunt

Are you satisfied with the flavor/tone of GoT's aesthetic?

Even in the mostly faithfully adapted S1, the aesthetic is markedly different and stylized compared to the classical depiction of medieval times
>the color palette is muted compared to even real life
>repeating shapes and symbols are present that give it a unique feel
>odd inspirations such as the eastern-looking Winterfell rooftops
>the varying helmets and hairstyles depending on the region
>subtler approach to house insignia rather than open display on tabards, shields, frills, etc
>looser approach to ceremonial and battle outfitting
>etc

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FIRST FOR THE ONE TRU KANG!

You cracka ass boltons and down low renlyfags on notice.

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Victarion is best squid nigga as he has no ulterior motive. He just wants to smash skulls and fuck bitches

Mostly, at least we didn't get anything like this

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The show had a bland aesthetic for a even a normal medieval show, and the series is supposed to be over the top.

Who is the better commander: Stannis Baratheon, or Randyll Tarly?

Viserion
Rhaegal
Ghost
Drogon
Summer

Stannis for overall strategy
Randyll for boots on the ground leadership and winning the day

>only wanted to kill the Night King because he touched his arm, making it personal
>orchestrates the events of season 8 so he could tell a funny joke to tyrion about becoming king
>autistic dwarf starts calling him Bran the Broken, he just goes with it
>lets arya sail west of westeros, doesn't tell her there's just nothing there
>appoints the most incompetent people he can find into his council
>sets up the kingdom for collapse
>appoints Podrick as his personal kingsguard, ensuring his assassination
>will probably just warg into some birds or reabsorb into the weirwood net once he's killed

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>pretending that this won't get cleaned up in post

BUT YOU DREAM Yea Forums,
YOUR SIMPLICITY LONG ENDED WHEN YOU TOOK TO CAPESHIT AND YOU THICKENED YOUR HARD DRIVES WITH GAME OF THRONES, AND MARVEL.

BECAUSE YOU FALLEN IN LOVE WITH THE THINGS IN LIFE THAT DESTROY MEN! DO YOU NOT SEE?!? AND YOU AS WELL AS I KNOW, AS THE YEARS DECLINE AND THE MEMORIES STALE, IT WAS ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED, YOU LEFT KINO BY THE WAYSIDE. FOR I WILL GO ON WITH MY ALEXANDERPOSTERS.

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>AYO WE FINNA TAKE THIS CITY

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based

Hard trufs cut both ways muh nigga.

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give it a read
youtube.com/watch?v=dqJ5tP532H0

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it'll be better in the inevitable remake.

imagine the smell

>that image
>that video link
>only 3 seconds apart
the hive mind is real kek

these two want to fuck

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S1-4 were good but as for the muted color pallete you have to watch the episodes in HD for the first few seasons and you see more vibrant colors than would be seen on the 480p normal streams
youtube.com/watch?v=5LZ0tmZnUOA
another good reading

Reminder that the "Disney ending" (Jon and Dany co-ruling) would have been infinitely better than the real ending. The real ending wasn't even bittersweet, for the most part, because the lords of Westeros just agreed to give Bran all authority and nobody seceded outside of Sandra.

But I guess we are supposed to believe that Jon and Dany would have never had a single conversation about marriage even though she dropped Daario to become a more attractive suitor. Jon being King-Consort is somehow impossible because Varys and Santa said so. We saw Dany listen to Jon and give him everything he wanted, but we are supposed to feel "threatened" by his claim despite her saving him three times and asking him to rule together with her.

Whatever. It's GRRM's ending (the major points, at least), so people will claim that it's okay.

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Theon
Stannis
Beric
Bronn
Glendon Flowers

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what would their sex be like user

In the end, what was the point of Beric?

To resurrect Cat

He died so the goblin could nothing personnel the Night King. It. Won't. Stop. Hurting.

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Did Dany genuinely love Drogo?

Beric exists to explain future resurrections. If Melisandra just revived Jon with no prior references to resurrections, it would come out of nowhere like Shadow Baby did.

heated with a lot of laughter and loving gazes from Nikolaj

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To be based

in the books it's a definate yes, less so in the show

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Easiest fix to this is Jon dying with rhaegal

What was the point of Jon's resurrection

what would nikolaj's sex with lena be like

At this point I don't much care about how they got there, all the holes in that have been done to death already. But even looking at it from the perspective of the books, it's a deeply unsatisfying ending and I can't possibly see how George will justify her death any better than the show managed to, half assed as it was. I don't see any way he can get there without making her POVs (and those surrounding her storyline) feel like a total waste of time.

Lena would bitch that he's going too deep and that it hurts and probably not be very wet

>but we are not men
>both of them get murdered

What's there to justify, the only reason it felt unsatisfactory in the show is because it was rushed as fuck and you felt for Emilia and her performance this season, Dany's already an irredeemable cunt in the books.

Post yours

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here's your version

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If somebody took out Jon and Rhaegal with a scorpion after King's Landing surrendered, I could totally see Daenerys going, "Fuck this," and burning everything to the ground.

I don't even understand why Jon and Tyrion are even alive after Jon kills Dany.

Dany's death wasn't murder, it was justice for the half a million that just fucking died an hour ago.

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She's pretty based in the books

have sex

go to bed darkstar

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Whatever, she still got stabbed like a fucking scrub.

I'm fairly sure the only reason Rhaegal didn't die in KL is that otherwise nothing would've happened in episode 4.

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Holy shit I forgot how awful Myranda's death looked

>>>/reddit/

Or even him dying to euron in e4, Jon said "he doesn't need me weighing him down" like that makes any sense

THOSE WHO WISH TO BECOME KING SPEAK NOW AND LET THE MAN ON THIS ISLAND JUDGE YOU!

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How should Littlefinger meet his end? Or should he even die in the first place? I always thought there will be some 'bad' guys that will make it through all the way to the end. (Well Bronn did)

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>Euron kills Rhaegal, knocking Jon out of the sky
>Dany's fleet retreats, Euron grabs Jon instead of Missandei
>Cersei executes Jon in ep 5, causing Dany to burn the city

There are literally dozens of ways to unfuck this. In this case, Jon could've killed NK and Arya would get to kill Dany. It's better already.

His chapters were based.

>"elective monarchy is stupid," /got/ said
>when the Iron Islands have been doing it for generations
Apologize.

Sansa will push him out of the moon door after holding him close for a second and then telling him the she only ever loved Robin.

Alys Karstark is the greatest rack in Westeros, the throne of which belongs to STANNIS by law.

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>ironborn
>not stupid

>EURON
>EURON
>EURON KING!

CUTEST BOY
U
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E
S
T

B
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>Killing Jon Snu
>AGAIN
The only way I accept it if he dies fighting the white walkers/sacrifice himself for some other reason to stop the Long Night. Anything less than that are cheap bullshit.

>Alys Karstark is the one true rack of Westeros
>Stannis Baratheon is the one true king of Westeros

It all makes sense.

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Serious question:
Why didn't they adapt AFFC and ADWD properly? Is it too hard for later seasons to continue the plot lines set up on those books? Why did George and D&D stop collaborating after S4/S5? I feel most of the problems with the second half can be traced back to the final episode of season 4 and season 5.

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>Dany
>taking revenge on her Jon-kun

As soon as she's resurrected she's heading north to suck his cock

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Logically he would've died to Euron, but somehow his 150 pounds is too much for a giant dragon

STANNIS
Roose
Tywin
Bobby B
Balon

one day, Alexander, may you find the end of /got/.

more like stench

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>Bran only wanted to kill the Night King because he touched his arm, making it personal
The personal might be able to keep the stories but the personnel actually lives them and makes them.

>lets arya sail west of westeros, doesn't tell her there's just nothing there
For the nth fucking time, Bran was not omniscient. He was basically doing Remote Viewing, so he has to have a target. "Whats West of Westeros" is too vague.

The problem isn't about who is stronger, but whether or not it makes a satisfying plot. What's the point of resurrecting Jon Snow if he is just to die to some new bad guy they introduced two seasons ago? Why Melisandre is so interested with him that she chooses to ditch Stannis and put her bets on Jon? I am not saying Jon should go full shonen anime hero and be king of the Iron Throne, but you better give a damn good reason for why he matters in the war against the white walkers that he gets to cheat death.

>balon

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you know the rules user

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I legit thought the final scene will be him looking at the mirror and smile as he sees the Night King reflection.

begrudging mockery's literally praise

They were really adamant on only having 7 seasons, and they spent more than half of that on the books up until ASOS, the rest just had to make do. HBO and George barely got them to make it 8, and even then it just resulted in 3 more episodes (7 seasons would've meant AFFC, ADWD, TWOW, and ADOS get only 30 episodes, but the shortened S7 and the additional S8 resulted in only 33 episodes)

>David and Dan have been saying for like five years that seven seasons was all they would go, and we got them to go to eight, but not any more than that. So yeah I had accustomed to it, there was a period like five years ago where they were saying "seven seasons" and I was saying "ten seasons" and you know they won, they're the ones actually working on it.

>When asked why the show is ending, he responded, “I don’t know! Ask [showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss] when they come through. We could have gone to 11, 12, 13 seasons, but I guess they wanted a life,” he joked.

>satisfying plot
The fuck show have you been watching? The one where they retconned some stupid mel and arya exchange to make her azor ahai, the one where Jon's resurrection is meaningless? Just have him kill the night king or something it's not hard but they haven't been thinking through anything for awhile

*shaky cam and 12 cuts to different angles during every fight

I would have been fine with Jon and/or Dany not ruling in the end, but it seems like the only reason Jon is a Targaryen is so Sansa and Varys could use that as a weapon against Daenerys. Sansa and Tyrion didn't even mention Jon's parentage and nobody thought about making him King.

In the end, you are right. Jon being executed by Euron fucking Greyjoy would have been terrible. Missandei's execution was a hard sell, so killing off the most popular character in the series the same way would have caused an even bigger uproar.

Is Melisandre based or cringe?

There's people who have tried to go west of westeros before, and he's able to see what they've seen, it's more likely than not all those expeditions failed and he just doesn't mention it cause he doesn't give a fuck

If one of them has to die, I'd rather the other does as well. It doesn't have to be some Shakespearean tragedy or anything, but leaving Jon alive feels pretty fucked up. He should've gotten the NK kill, then his "purpose" would be fulfilled and you could kill him off, leading to a more believable turn for Dany herself. Doing it this way would've also allowed him more than two lines across the entire season.

post kino scenes
youtube.com/watch?v=5g5UvrhJFVQ

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>gains omniscience
>only uses power to watch rapes
>can't masturbate
what did D&D mean by this?

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she is based but bluepilled

>Dany torches King's Landing
>Jon realizes his fault in enabling her behavior
>decides to take responsibility at his own sacrifice
>does the honorable thing like Ned would
>kidnaps her on Drogon and takes her far away
>she's mad and has a mental breakdown
>thinks he denied her the throne at first
>eventually realizes she made a huge mistake
>she could've never ruled after what she's done
>Jon saved her from the public hatred and potential violent overthrow
>also saved the public from a mad tyrant ruler
>the two protagonists essentially have to bail on their lives due to their bad decisions
>they live out the rest of their days on a faraway island
>the last remaining Targaryens as literally whos doing nothing of note
>no heirs as she's sterile and he won't fuck anyone else
>the dynasty dies with a whimper while the Seven Kingdoms stay the same infighting mess they always were
>actually bittersweet

This could take up 80% of the final episode since no one gives a shit about what happens to the rest of the characters because the show spent the later half of its seasons hammering it perfectly clear that Jon and Dany are the protagonists.

Also, doing things this way could've lent some much-needed development to their sham of a "romance" instead of dropping it the moment the season started. D&D clearly wanted the tragic ending for them but somehow hoped they could gut their characters, their interactions, and still achieve it? I'll never understand.

>masturbating to art
That would be degenerate

fucking Roose is the man.

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Beric
Sandor
Thoros
Bobby B
Bobby B

This would have been good

>At this point I don't much care about...
There are bells that can't be unrung. You will never again read those books with a semi-uncritical eye. It doesn't matter what he writes or doesn't write. If or not the Fat Man realizes it, that fact is the _true_ bittersweetness of his ending. On some level, he will write and you will read passages that you will know _would_ have made you feel rewarded and engaged before the show went to shit, but now they don't and you will resent this, whether you realize it and accept it or not.

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Meaning is for 8th grade book reports

Change that to "Jon impregnates Dany and becomes the new Craster on their island" and you've got a deal

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D&D really did ruin everything.

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Speaking of shadow baby or anything related to the Lady in Red; what the fuck was the point?

I don't mind spoilers in and of themself, but I cannot imagine how somebody can read the Jon or Dany chapters in the last two books (if they ever come out) without thinking, "Jon is just going to stab her anyway." The way it's done might be infinitely better, but the show will leave a bad impression in my mind about it.

To show that even impossible odds are possible to overcome with magic, the entire War of the Five Kings itself is just filler/world building/distraction while he moves Jon and Dany into place

They're fucking awful. The prose is mediocre, the characters do stupid things while suffering zero consequences, he clearly writes things without actually imagining in his head what it would look like if the scene played out as written, and he respects his readers so little that he has a character explain the political doubletalk to himself in his own internal monologue mid conversation. I like them.

The Ironborn are the most retarded people in Westeros

They are good. The prose is only decent, which is why some people dismiss him as a hack.

Something like this except Bran wargs into Drogon to prevent the slaughter, giving us some reason to believe Bran isn't malevolent, and the ending isn't pure nihilistic trash

Stannis
Beric
Eddard
Brynden
Jaime

>red priestess
>red god
>bluepilled

Shadow Baby makes no sense in any version of the story. Melisandre goes from saying that "King's blood" is needed for it to offering sex to Davos to make one. Why does Rh'llor care if somebody is a king anyway? Just make it so people with only Valyrian blood can create Shadow Babies and be done with it. That would at least explain why Stannis would stop using them after they drained his life force, and it would eliminate the possi6of others just using it as well.

I'd really like to know what the point of A Dance with Dragons was, with Jon and Dany both struggling to be good leaders. What is the point of it if neither becomes King?

I mean if they died heroically against the Others, at least it would be a decent end to their arcs as they would fulfill the "protector of the realm" part of being King.

It's blood magic, it works on the same principle as monetary value, i.e. King's blood is special because men believe Kings to be special.

The seven kingdoms are divided in two: Norf and Souf. If House Stark are the kings in da norf, which house would be the kings in da souf?

The gods aren't real you dummy

According to DnD it's also house Stark

They really should go for a show original ending.

>I like them.
Based

I have to admit, Roose is still fucking cool even if he is traitorous asshole. Walder is a cunt all the way through though.

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Unironically Lannisters

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luv da norf
luv me sword
luv wintafell

ate da souf
ate lannys
ate betrayl

>Don't make me rue the day I raped your mother
That line is fucking golden

You didn't address why Melisandre offered Davos to make a Shadow Baby. If the answer is that he's Hand of the King, then one can simply name another Hand, have them fuck Melisandre a few times and, then name somebody else Hand.

R'hllor is real. The Great Other is real.

Is it any more complicated then that, though? I can't tell.

All Tywin wanted was at least one child who wasn't a complete fuckup and who would take their responsibility to governing House Lannister seriously. Was this really too much to ask?

>that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple
>makes the king be a human history book so he'll have access to the knowledge of every world leader there's ever been
>What was Aragorn’s tax policy?
>charges a tax for fucking prostitutes
>Did Aragorn pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby orcs, in their little orc cradles?
>makes the supernatural force a hivemind so all of them are killed when the leader is
George is a fucking hack. lmao. He literally just avoided his own criticisms of Tolkien in the most retarded way possible.

The gods may not exist either, sot hey who/why isn't consistent because attempting to attribute it to some gods plan is a falsehood. Just that the functionality of blood magic is semi-repeatable.

It was Tywin's fault for not realizing it was Tyrion.

OKAY

ALL YOU FUCKING "TARGSHITS" AND "BASED BOBBY B" FAGGOTS

LOOK AT THIS PRECIOUS LITTLE PRINCESS AND TELL ME YOU'D BE ABLE TO KILL HER IN COLD BLOOD. NO? I FUCKING THOUGHT SO. YOU CAN ALL GO TO HELL.

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Tyrion would be a capable administrator but would unironically marry the first whore that could trick him into thinking her feelings were genuine, and would father a trillion bastards. He's like the perfect Hand, but I wouldn't want him in a position that would decide the heirs to my house.

Tywin should've killed Tyrion

How do we feel about the High Sparrow?

The man tried to, but the ball-less bald fuck ruined everything.

I SEE NO BABE, ONLY DRAGONSPAWN

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B&R

>traitorous asshole
he gave Robb every chance he could.
the Young Wolf fucked up like a Westerosi Trevor
based Roose wasn't going to be on the losing side because some young king fancied foreign pussy

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he did nothing wrong

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His theme is totally badass and while I am not a big fan of his character, the actor did a good job portraying him. His scene with Ollena and Jaime are good. I wish they give him a better motivation instead of just medieval anti-homo activist.
youtube.com/watch?v=WZLBLfmB6JU

>the entire War of the Five Kings itself is just filler/world building/distraction while he moves Jon and Dany into place
With that endgame, I wonder why George decided to add a million more characters and storylines after ASOS. The fucker has two books left to get to his ending, and everything is so convoluted that he needs his fans to remind him of continuity.

Rayloo and the Great Other are ways humans rationalize fire and ice magic. In reality all forms of magic stem from blood, there is nothing divine about it.

He got fucked over by dabid

He did everything right

>give him a better motivation instead of just medieval anti-homo activist.
God, the show was so braindead

IIRC the dude is scummier in the books and already hinted of going to betray Robb all the way before the storyline of season 3 begins.

I can see why you might think this in a world where the Others aren't actually spontaneously returning of their own accord
>b-but they're creations of the cotf
Don't be such a stupid showfag

Nth for stannis

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I liked him even better in the books.
maybe I'm just sick of goody-two-shoes faggotry.

Is anyone actually looking forward to the Long Night prequel?

I get the feeling it's going to be a (shittier) TWD in medieval times. I would much rather see Robert's Rebellion or the Dance of the Dragons, even if we know the outcomes.

I want a buddy cop comedy set in the Free Cities.

I thought at first he is going to champion the small folks and he is going to take down both the Lannisters and Tyrells. Maybe he did, but the problem is they put so much emphasis on Loras's trial even though he literally done far less damage than Cersei. The show turn it into evil vs evil scenario between High Sparrow and Cersei when they could make it more grey, with the sparrows having genuinely good reason to rebel even if their ways aren't necessarily peaceful. They can still have Cersei blowing them all up later on if that's really George endgame and actually could have more meaning.

In the book the high Sparrow arrests Margaery because Cersei has Osmund Kettleblack lie about having and affair with her, which would be treason since she was betrothed to the King. He ends up not believing it and Kettleblack gets tortured into revealing the truth, that Cersei had him murder the old High Septon and told him to lie. That's what causes him to arrest Cersei, as well as on the charge of murdering Robert and sleeping around while married.

It's definitely MUCH more serious than being anti-homo

No. Everything is too small (cities, armies, the cataclysm to small folk). Everyone's age is fucking wrong. The fucking helmets disappear. Armour fluctuates in usefulness. Uniforms/sets honestly felt cheaper as the show went on, even with more money. Detail was lost and only the most blatant of symbols stayed. Too on the nose with wardrobe colours for some characters. I don't mind the slightly darker lighting/drab filter in later seasons, it's meant to be overcast/snowing/blizzard during autumn/winter. The music was consistently great, the choreography went in the shitter (including battle tactics, but that's more writing than actor performance). Shaky cam does not suit this series, or frantic quick cuts.

>believes in sky daddy
>calls other people showfags
I bet you also think the world is going to end by being covered in ghost grass. Stannis was a fool for picking a two-bit fortune teller over a proper maester. He had such potential too.

Nikolaj is definitely one of those men that is more handsome with age.

No one is looking forward to it because of how pathetic episode 3 was it makes it impossible to take seriously

all GoT spin-offs are gonna be a nigger-fest.
you thought Idris Elba as Heimdall was bad?

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Stannis got two Shadow Babies out of it, who killed Renly and gave him Storm's End. He might just be a fugazi by the end of TWoW, but Melisandre helped his campaign more than a random maester ever would.

I have read from A World of Ice and Fire. It's amazing really. I would love to watch a full adaptation of the Dance of the Dragons, but it's obvious we won't get any live action series about it. Vid related is probably the only thing we will ever get:
youtube.com/watch?v=PVwfXiNGYNc

I just want to see the madman Daemon jumping from dragon to fight/kill Aemond really. Also, maybe a live action Rhaenyra if they cast someone cute.

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Targ apologists can fuck off along with their faggoty anime special snowflake house

I agree, it was an absurd attempt to screw with us and an act of emotional sadism directed at the viewers.

Also for being so shocking they kept steady on the "muh incest" is bad train of thought which wouldn't have mattered in reality(and this ignores twincest we're getting with Jamie and Cersei who died happily).

Garbage ending, the people involved should feel bad for fucking with the people who watched this shit for 10 years.

Sandor
Stanis
Tywin
Davos
Jaime

These characters are the reason I watch this fucking show. I'd give an honorable mention to Tyrion but there's just no salvaging him post-exile.

based

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>got shadow babies that made the Lannisters stronger and his forces weaker
Wow how useful. All he had to do to get them was ensure that the people of the south will never accept him. Meanwhile, proper advice from a maester would have led him up to the riverlands where he could help Robb and try to get the Vale on his side while the Tyrells and Lannisters kill each other.

*beats her to death while my bro rapes her mom*

>maybe I'm just sick of goody-two-shoes faggotry.
How can anyone thirst this hard for edge this many years past the current one? Are you Mormon? Have you been frozen in time for 15 years? We got grimdark shit and anti-heroes and realized they were the actual faggots the moment real life started imitating art en masse.

I can't stand Targs. They all look the same with their gay hair and anime eyes. They're so highborne, they're treated like elves. Incest. Their names are stupid. Dragons are literally evil. I wish they would stay dead.

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The problem really started all the way back to S04E02. Many of the plots that should happen in S5 are supposed to be introduced there.
Summary if you don't want to click:
>Roose already tease the plan to marry Ramsay to fake Arya
>Introduction of Arys Oakheart & Osmund Kettleback
>Tyrion finding out Joffrey is the true culprit of Bran's assassination attempt
>Bran seeing glimpse of the children of the forest, the weirwood and the mad king
>Jaime is about to be sent to Riverrun (obviously will only happen in the next season)
>Melisandre's fire sacrifice will look more 'spectacular' (fire that can change colors, and the sacrificed men souls being visibly 'happy' as it goes to the Lord of Light, more or less confirming it's real)
>Ramsay's dogs will have more screentime, hinting them to fight against the Starks direwolves at some point later.

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Aemond and Daemon were hardcore
Also seeing the fishfeed on screen would be fuckig epic with the Winter Wolves and Bloody Benjicot Blackwood

Cucked out of the story. KL should be on fire, endless fucking riots, not praising Cersei or fucking Euron. Ya just nuked the prime house of your state religion, it's not just KL residents who are zealots, the entire country is pissed at endless war. Everyone is fucking starving. Everyone knows that the only people with access to wildfire/alchemist guild are the fucking lords/royals.

How did the shadow babies make Stannis's forces weaker? Renly was his enemy and some of Renly's forces switched sides to Stannis after his death. Sure, others went to the Lannisters, but they wouldn't have been on Stannis's side either way.

Stannis got rid of Renly with minimal bloodshed and got Storm's End the same way.

They are more or less elves in universe. On 'A World of Ice and Fire' book it's mentioned the peasants of Dragonstone essentially treat them as 'Gods' walking with them. The women practically offer themselves to get fucked by Targaryen lords to obtain the dragonseed (read: Targ bastard).

Yeah that didn't help him very much in the long run did it? He should have let the Tyrells and Lannisters kill each other rather than let the Tyrells just swoop in and save the Lannisters. Pretty much all of Renly's people who joined Stannis abandoned him after the battle of the Blackwater. His plan was bad. He needed a proper advisor, not a whore who kept trying to convince him that he was the messiah.

Dick Crabb
The High Sparrow
Victarion
Maester Aemon
Jaime

Blowing up the sept and burning at least a portion of KL could actually open a whole new storylines. The other kingdoms decide to secede and break ties with the iron throne (assuming Cersei still survive). Daenerys basically has to conquer each ones of these while Tyrion & Varys can do their things with political fuckery and blackmail. Littlefinger can still be useful too as Jon & Sansa try to gain more support and use him as a 'loose cannon' of sort to gain more allies or to destroy their enemies. Jaime can finally fuck off from Cersei and he can lead the Westerland/Lannister army and more or less be the main antagonist against Daenerys's invasion. It actually give someone we can root from both sides. They can still have lord Tarly betraying the Reach as well if they want and Euron as a wildcard of sort who can turn or join with anyone.

How come her hair never grew out?

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Because she wanted to be a boy really badly

She liked it that way because it helped her phantom penis grow

Don't forget the Holy Orders that will now be thrown into a bloodlust

Can’t we just talk about Barry instead

>lel sky daddy amiright

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that raack does not negate that face though
waif = god tier waifu
its even in her fucking name

Does somebody have the House Martell flag bearer by any chance?

"We iz da one true kang nigga, doze lannister muhfuggas be playin like dis iz alabama o sum shit like dat"

"dat crack baby Joffrey, my homo brotha Renly, dat wolf nigga Robb, dey all thieves..those niggas betta bend dey knees or imma cap dey assez"

"Imma deck that foo Roose Bolton and put his bitch-ass head on spike"

"y'all niggas come wit me cuz we finna take dis honky ass city"

"dat bolton foo fucked up. All dat nigga had to do wuz chill in his crib while we niggas ran out of kfc. Now he be sending some of his own niggas to fite. Those muthafuckas gonna be on horses while we gonna be on foot. Those niggas will have had nuff food n drank while we gon fite as hungry ass niggas, but i dont give a fuck. The retard nigga, the fatass mofugga, the bastard foo, let all dem com. We homies got da turf and we finna use dat to cap dey assez!"

"Y'all know what muh brotha would do. Bobby would cruise up to da gates o Winterfell alone, ice dem bitches wid his warhammer and ride through the rubble to clap that fool Roose Bolton wid his left hand and dat cracka Bastard wid his right. I ain't Bobby. But we niggas is gonna march, and we niggas is gonna free Winterfell... or get caps in our asses tryin. Shiet..."

I don't understand your reasoning. Without shadow babies, Renly has a bigger host and popularity. Stannis has to deal with him AND the Lannisters in this scenario. Even if Stannis tries to pander to the Starks, he still would have to engage in a bloody war with two different factions.

Stannis lost anyway, true, but to claim that he was better off without the shadow babies is stupid.

Cuz she’s a fucking SJW feminist cunt dyke bitch.

Not to mention the peasant rebellion. They have every reason to destroy Cersei and refuse to bend the knee to any Lannisters. In any realistic scenario or at least the first four seasons, the peasants would straight up storming the red keep and rip Cersei and Qyburn apart. In fact that's what season 7 premiere should have been. Angry peasants try to breaking through the gates, Cersei threatens to blow up everyone and Jaime has no other choice but put her down immediately.

>shortchanges the women of Westeros
of all the problems with the season, this is the one RT finds most pressing lmao

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She thought that the trauma of being shamed and mocked and lost all her hair empowers her.
t. David Benioff and DB Weiss.

But also maybe this In the books she think of herself as Tywin Lannister with tits and ironically she utterly hates woman and hates being a woman. She probably thought her short hair make her feel more like a man.

When they are good, they are turbo. When they are bad, it's passable and forgiveable.

Overall, yes. Chapters like The Forsaken and Reek I alone redeem his mistakes.

Qyburn would escape with his hang-glider made of human skin.

To be fair Daenerys character is the worst handled one this season along with Jaime. Sansa, Cersei and Arya too. Literally only Brienne who isn't ruined, but even then she got fucked & cucked by Jaime for no reason.

So she’s a woman that’s sexist against other women? What the fuck?

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D&D bent over backwards to make Sansa and Arya "appear" smart and capable. They kept Cersei around purely as fanservice. Sure, Dany's character was assassinated, but so was Jaime's. People don't care as much about the latter because Jaime isn't as popular as Dany and has been written off to die years ago.

>Renly is stronger than Stannis
>Renly is going to fight the Lannisters
>Stannis kills Renly and fights the Lannisters himself, losing many men
>the remains of Renly's army join the Lannisters and Stannis gets rekt
Instead of having Renly's entire army fight the Lannisters, Stannis had half of Renly's army fight the Lannisters and the other half fight FOR the Lannisters. Renly had no children, so if the plan was to murder Renly they should have waited for him to take KL or at least weaken the Lannisters.

He could just escape through one of those secret tunnels along with Ser Gregor. Maybe escape to Riverrun and be an outlaw or try to join Euron and end up encountering Sandor and the Brotherhood without Banners so audiences can still get their Cleganebowl.

it's sad Lena is so uptight, otherwise we could have seen the Myrish swamp scene
that's some book shit where Cersei finger bangs a Dornish (maybe even Free Cities I forget) noblewoman to orgasm

She is sexist against men too. She thinks she is superior to everybody on the planet in every way (except physical strength).

Why did they murder her bros? Does George just like to fuck with us and make us suffer?

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>Dany wants to be a traditional housewife and and do nothing more than please her husbando and have many children
>Cersei wants to smash the patriarchy and gets mad that she can't do what men, particularly her drunken husband, can do
>Feminists rally behind Dany and not Cersei

What did they mean by this?

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Literally "GOLDEN LADY BAD"

GRRM will give her a happy ending with the house with the red door, I want to believe

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Yeah, even in the show there are hints about this too. The Blackwater episode to be precise when she disdainfully talk to Sansa about being a noble woman. She also despise Brienne too in the books because of how she manages to be a warrior instead of being a typical woman.

Maybe he'll get mortally wounded and have Euron sew his head on Robert Strong's body.

come on boys, give me the bobbyposting.

>Too on the nose with wardrobe colours for some characters
You're supposed to suspend disbelief with the costuming. It's a thing with the show. In Season 3, Margaery compliments the metalworking or embroidery of Cersei's dress which was probably meant to be a subtle 4th-wall breaking reference to the anachronistic and embellished costuming of the show, at least when it comes to the named characters.

They go full retard with it in later seasons, though, and i think a different woman is responsible for it. It just becomes this weird gothy bdsm thing.

Why do people shit (pun intended) on this scene in the books? Are they literally going, "POOPOO HAHAHA!". There have been a plethora of moments more awkward and unfantastical than that.

Who’s the bigger incel?

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>Sansa
I was gonna beat ur ass until you clarified that you're a fellow bookfag with your based Victarion choice

>Cersei wants to smash the patriarchy and gets mad that she can't do what men, particularly her drunken husband, can do
By manipulating & murdering her way through and by season 6 committing mass murder as well. Cersei has her reason, but she is still an irredeemable cunt.

Is GRRM gay?

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Cersei going goth was kino.

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D&D just completely missed the point of Dany's character. Namely that she's right

>Alexander's empire was better than the squabbling city-states of ancient Greece that preceded it (a pity he did not live long enough to make the union with Persia permanent, and twice a pity that his successors broke it all up into smaller countries to war on each other)
>Dany successfully had all 7 kingdoms under her beck and call
>planned to expand the empire and connect it to Essos
>dies
>elective monarchy, one of the most corruptable systems, is instituted
>kingdoms start splitting
>the crown is now weak as fuck
>each kingdom's Lord is practically a king again who doesn't have to listen to anyone
>civil war guaranteed in the next 5-10 years

Her death is supposed to be a tragedy and a sign that the elite of Westeros fear her so they plotted to Caesar her. D&D can't make their whitewashed good guys look like bad guys so Dany has to be a bad guy and look crazy and genocidal for literally no reason

>but she is still an irredeemable cunt.

Well so are most feminists

*cough*

>bobbyposting
STOP THIS MADNESS IN THE NAME OF YOUR KING!!!!

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No it wasn't, she should be wearing Red and gold

>REMEMBER ME PIA? I'M BACK

What the fuck

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If you had to rewrite the show starting with Season 5, and had to get to the same ending we got in broad strokes, how would you do it? Here's how I'd do it.


I'm going to assume all I have is the same amount of time D&D had: ten episodes for Season 5, ten for Season 6, and seven for Season 7, six for Season 8.


[Season 5]


(Bolton-Baratheon War)


-Mance Rayder does not get burned for real and the same plotline involving him infiltrating Winterfell take part, if a bit streamlined


-Wyman Manderly and other northern lords are shown in the first episode pledging fealty to the Boltons. Roose is wary of them potentially plotting against him, while Ramsay thinks he can simply flay them into submission. White Harbor is shown early on, and Littlefinger is with the Freys discussing with Wyman about his required loyalty to the Boltons, and that they will give his captured son back if he helps ensure no rebellion against House Bolton takes place, while Wyman pretends to wholeheartedly agree with Bolton rule. Brienne and Pod are sneakily tracking Littlefinger and Sansa but then get captured by Wyman Manderly and are questioned, eventually leading to a "The North Remembers" speech.


-Yara and Deepwood Motte feature early in the season. Ramsay tries to take it in order to demonstrate Bolton military strength, and even tries using Reek to convince them to surrender, but Yara beats them back, and has a short conversation from the safety of the walls with Reek that results in starting his redemption arc due to him getting reminded of who he really is. Ramsay is called back to Winterfell for a marriage proposal.


-Jeyne Poole posing as Arya is introduced by Littlefinger as a bride for Ramsay. Sansa, posing as Alayne, is fArya's maid. Mance Rayder recognizes who Sansa is and helps organize a potential coup. Reek also recognizes who Sansa is and some drama occurs from the need to make sure he doesn't inform Ramsay.

moreatpasteb

Can you unironically imagine what it would be like watching 12 people pour their hearts out into an audition for a character you wrote in your most treasured series? It's like my number one fantasy

Pia is all of us.

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Nah fuck that. All of her family is dead and she never gave a fuck about family traditions. She only cared about herself and her children.

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The one from season 6 finale is great. Whatever the hell is that from season 7 finale is awful though. The red dress is okay, but nothing too impressive either.

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Can we get a discussion on the autistic descriptions of all the crowns that Gurrm did in the books? For some reason, that's one of my favorite subjects. I think Robb's crown was the best as described desu. It's just plain as fuck with swords sticking up. Although Stannis' crown takes a close second.
Oh fuck, I just realized they never had Stannis wear a fucking crown in the show. What the fuck?

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>I want to believe
>ADOS epilogue is about a former slave in Essos
>He describes the chaos after Dany left
>The red priests have assumed control
>Finds a house with a red door
>Gets turned into ash by Drogon
>Imagines a blonde woman while burning

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It's that time again.

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I'm partial to the idea that The Dothraki and Unsullied would've went apeshit when they found out that the leader of the North's army assassinated their queen and just massacre everyone left in King's Landing including Jon and Tyrion, while some escape like Davos and Arya. I don't buy that Jon blatantly shanking their ultra-charismatic sole commander wouldn't have led to an absolute slaughter. But instead we got Grey Worm not killing Jon and Tyrion for some reason?
>EETS NOUGHT YOUR DECISHION
Dany's death literally had no consequences when she was the most powerful person in the world.

I didn't know they were making another sword of truth series.

>I'm going to assume all I have is the same amount of time D&D had: ten episodes for Season 5, ten for Season 6, and seven for Season 7, six for Season 8.
You can't. Just make it 10 episodes each. It's just impossible to do justice to the finale with just 13 episodes.

I haven't read it, but there is a Vanity Fair article on that very question. My guess is that her pixie cut became a thing as she was put in the position of "owning" or "leaning-in" to the aftermath of her shame. She alludes to this in S1 when she says to Bob "I will wear it like a badge of honor" in reference to him striking her face. Her handmaidens and other flatterers and members of court would have been compelled to don similar haircuts so as not to trigger her.

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>If you had to rewrite the show starting with Season 5, and had to get to the same ending we got in broad strokes, how would you do it? Here's how I'd do it.
>Stannis takes Winterfell but can't control it
>Myrcella and Trystane take over after the sept, Jaime executes Cersei and manages the war effort
>Jon marries Dany

>It's that time again.
No it isn't. It's never "that time" for a strawpoll, faggot. Go back to lebbit.

She cuts it

>her handmaidens cut their hair short as well

That’s so autistic.

this

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Tywin
Oberyn
Stannis
Davos
Jaime

Stannis
Jaime
Theon
Davos
Melisandre

This is all book though, I haven't watched the show since S4.

>God
>Yahweh
>Sky daddy
>Sky wizard
>Jewish Tool

Pick whichever you like Christfag, doesn't make it anymore real

what's the scoville on that hot sauce?

The decision to sell out Gendry completely destroyed both their arcs

Is it though? If you were a young lass whose only jobs were to brush hair, clean chamber pots, and tidy up a bit, would it really be out of the ordinary to adopt the hairstyle of the one person you are basically a slave to?

The show could have at least shown Jon winning the respect of Dany's forces. Of course, them not killing him would still make no sense, but it would have been slightly more believable.

By episode 4, Grey Worm hates Jon (and the North in general). How is the audience supposed to believe that he doesn't just execute Jon on the spot?

Grey Worm just accepting that Daenerys is dead is also curious, but I guess that's just nitpicking.

Pretty based list if I do say myself, if you had Cersei in there I might of had to suck your cock

robert got cucked by a targshit LOL

This is a great thread to find after I just came in my wife twice tonight as we work on baby making and I said if it’s a boy I know what we shall name him Stannis.

you're such a fag i bet you kiss girls.

I always hated Jaimie

Fucking stereotypical "hurr evil Prince turns good" anime bullshit

Glad he died a shitty death and all his retard fans went apeshit

Nah, she wouldn't bitch. She'd boss him around and use him like her personal toy with the strict goal of getting herself off. She'd be an indifferent lover regarding his needs, sure, but she's not going home empty handed. Girl's got an appetite.

I like you, user. Tell me more.

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Let me guess who your favorite character is

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Grey Worm had the potential to be a really compelling antagonist. He was a man who was stripped at birth of anything that makes life worth living, made into little more than a tool. Dany comes a long and gives him everything a man could ever want; Love, purpose, individuality. Only for all those things to be stripped away from him again through the deaths of Missandei and Dany. You telling me he wouldn't go apeshit? He'll kill Lannister soldiers for no reason but won't kebab the man who killed Dany? It just made no sense.

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Lyanna was never Robert's in the first place, so he wasn't cucked. He was betrothed to her, built a fantasy in his head about her, and then thought she was raped and murdered

>Balon

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Nikolaj is one of those people who is so handsome, it just pisses me off. I'm not a fag and have face blindness (so probably autistic), but I can tell that dude is one good lookin' motherfucker.

If you wrote this with Cersei and Jaime it'd be the same

If she marries a women, would she be queen consort?

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Get the fuck out of here with the '7 kingdoms' shit. They're warmongering and power hungry fucks. There's not real reason to unite. Yes the prior kingdoms fought for territory every now and then, but so did the shithead Targs. Their dynasty wasn't one of pure bliss peace, they fucking had infighting and endless rebellion everyone 10-20 years. Forcefully trying to unite a continent never fucking works. Maesters were trying that shit for the last few thousands years and slowly getting there. The show and books make it clear that every house/agenda tries to say things were nice and perfect under ruler/house X, but it never fucking was.

Too bad his dick is the size of a peanut. Looks don’t mean shit if you’re dick isn’t even big.

He should have done a full frontal scene as Jaime, there's even a scene in the books where Cersei calls Jaime's dick small

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>there's even a scene in the books where Cersei calls Jaime's dick small
kek

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>dick is soft
>any comparison to an erect dick
Looks like some jelly fag trying to cope with his inferiority complex.

>Minikolaj
>Micro Niko
>Microlaj Coster-Waldau

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That's the whole reason NCW was first cast.

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literally based as fuck
good luck father user

>Grey Worm had the potential to be a really compelling antagonist.
That's the beauty of Game of Thrones "long hiatus" non-ending. He still can be.

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Maario Naharis

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>Stannis
>Davos
>Melisandre
Why is team dragonstone such a best team?

You think 99 percent of the people reposting that scene have actually read even one of the books?

>so he wasn't cucked. He was betrothed to her
mmhmm

>They have never seen a flaccid penis before
Kind of cringe

Grey Worm vs Jon in a trial by combat would have been cool. Of course, it wouldn't make any sense, but the last two episodes of season six are loved because of their coolness factor despite not making any sense.

based and mariopilled

>famously only 2.5 inches erect
>famously

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Because while everyone else only surrounds themselves with bannermen and members of their family, Stannis promotes people based on merits and usefulness, who can offer different points of view and disagree with each other and with him, rather than being yes men.

>12 posts early

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why are these so fucking funny to me. God damn got any more?

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All right well I'm gonna get this to bump limit since OP is a retard and baked too early. Here, take some artwork.

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I'm da captain now!

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warcraft 3 was gay as fuck.
it replaced the military-objective narrative with some emo bullshit.
also the tax mechanic was the final insult.
fuck warcraft 3 and everything that came after it.

They’re ok, the prose isn’t very good but the plot is very entertaining
Entertaining is probably the best word for them
I read them when I was about 13/14 not too long after aDwD came out and I really enjoyed them
But like I say I was 13/14, at the time I loved reading the dany chapters about a hot girl my age getting fucked
If I read them now I’d probably find it super weird

based image thread bumpers, had to kill one a while ago because the next thread was made too early

I just spent 20 minutes finding the original and can't believe this is true, unreal by GRRM

By men.