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First for the best scene
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GRRM is unironically based. I wonder if he watches The Expanse?
>"Here's to the Young Wolf"
>AWOOOO
>even George didn't waste his time on that shitty show
This is an Asha thread.
Reminder they did this in a medieval castle (can't break anything) and they couldn't do this at night or in corridors so they had to give us this shit.
SANSA MOMMY WHERE ARE MY PIDGEON TENDIES I WANT MY TENDIE WENDIES SANSA MOMMY PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Made for servicing Stannis
Goda I wish that were me
GRRM is a fat faggot that managed to set up interesting plot points but has no fucking clue how to resolve them.
>we'll never get a series where a mature (balding) man like Stephen Dillane's Stannis is the protagonist
>it's all feminine twinky twigs
Really makes you live in a society
>But he grew up in winterfell! Is marrying your aunt common in winterfell?
>Varys kind of forgot that non sibling incest was infact common and acceptable in westeros.
Nth for best house
The armor in this show sucks but at least this looks like mail, with shit tacked on.
Stannis' wife is pretty cute
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
How much do you want to bet that Dany was supposed to be pregnant by the time Jon killed her, but D&D pussied out at the last second? The two went out of their way to bring up her infertility in seasons 6 and 7, and didn't even bring it up in season 8. She isn't infertile in the books, either.
Sweatrobin pls
>previously in xena: warrior princess
APPROVED ASHA THREAD
“A gift of news. Dragonmother, Stormborn, I tell you true, Robert Baratheon is dead.”
Outside her walls, dusk was settling over Qarth, but a sun had risen in Dany’s heart. “Dead?” she repeated. In her lap, black Drogon hissed, and pale smoke rose before her face like a veil. “You are certain? The Usurper is dead?”
“So it is said in Oldtown, and Dorne, and Lys, and all the other ports where we have called.”
He sent me poisoned wine, yet I live and he is gone. “What was the manner of his death?” On her shoulder, pale Viserion flapped wings the color of cream, stirring the air.
“Torn by a monstrous boar whilst hunting in his kingswood, or so I heard in Oldtown. Others say his queen betrayed him, or his brother, or Lord Stark who was his Hand. Yet all the tales agree in this: King Robert is dead and in his grave.”
Dany had never looked upon the Usurper’s face, yet seldom a day had passed when she had not thought of him. His great shadow had lain across her since the hour of her birth, when she came forth amidst blood and storm into a world where she no longer had a place. And now this ebony stranger had lifted that shadow.
“The boy sits the Iron Throne now,” Ser Jorah said.
“King Joffrey reigns,” Quhuru Mo agreed, “but the Lannisters rule. Robert’s brothers have fled King’s Landing. The talk is, they mean to claim the crown. And the Hand has fallen, Lord Stark who was King Robert’s friend. He has been seized for treason.”
“Ned Stark a traitor?” Ser Jorah snorted. “Not bloody likely. The Long Summer will come again before that one would besmirch his precious honor.”
>“What honor could he have?” Dany said. “He was a traitor to his true king, as were these Lannisters.” It pleased her to hear that the Usurper’s dogs were fighting amongst themselves, though she was unsurprised. The same thing happened when her Drogo died, and his great khalasar tore itself to pieces. “My brother is dead as well, Viserys who was the true king,” she told the Summer Islander.
>not a single stark kid grew up to be normal
lol
DA NORF DA BESS
'ATE SUFENERS
'ATE TARG FUCKIN SHITS
'ATE OIRN AHLENDERS
LOVE PINTS
SIMPLE AS
Stannis has already promised Asha to Justin Massey, it's over
FIRST OF HIS NAME
I guess the children of the forest made him stupider, to like uhhhhh divide dany?
Why did they make her show character a dyke? I thought it was pretty neat how she was a warrior chick who still got on her knees for some fat dick
most of the fight scenes in this series don't involve
>breaking things
>being in tight spaces
>during night time
this could have been fine
They killed Talisa by having her stabbed in the stomach. I don't think they were worried about that.
I think it's more likely Dany was supposed to have her child before dying
>doesn't have time to watch Game of Thrones
>doesn't have time to write Game of Thrones
What does this fat fuck do all day?
Is it just me or is GRRM just not that great of a writer?
Uhm sweetay, normal is boring and apparently gets you killed in this world, unless you're the fat writer's self insert ;))
D&D switched jaime+cersei plot with jon+dany
How do we know she's not infertile in the books? Cuz she started bleeding again? You can get your period and still be infertile.
Danime
I'd wrestle with her and put my peen in her butt if you know what I mean
Eh, probably just D&D doing the "BROH LESBIANS ARE HAWT BROH" bit. It's gay and dumb.
Even if that weren't true why not fucking ASK Jon if he would marry Dany
>Was getting milkies part of your plan?
>Of course.
>Well congratulations,you got your milkies. Now what's the next step of your master plan?
>Throwing you out the moon door — with no survivors!
Will we ever get a good ASOIAF adaptation?
>What does this fat fuck do all day?
Someone post all the baseball posts he's done.
Reading Dunk and Egg and it’s top comfy. Makes me appreciate having a kid brother much more. Both Duncan and Aegon are solid lads.
No
>They killed Talisa by having her stabbed in the stomach. I don't think they were worried about that.
Talisa isn't nearly as popular as Daenerys, first of all. Second, Robb didn't kill Talisa. Jon and Daenerys are the most popular characters in the series, for better or worse, so having the "heroic" Jon kill a pregnant Daenerys would have caused serious backlash.
Post template or your mother will die in her sleep tonight
best house at the start of the series, last few season is the shittest and most unlikable house that exist.
>Eh, probably just D&D doing the "BROH LESBIANS ARE HAWT BROH" bit.
I didn't really mind, but I wanted to see her scissor some pussy.
I meant in real life.
Sansa is white trash
Arya is golum
Bran is depressed
I said the words, Sam thought again, but one of her nipples found its way between his lips. It was pink and hard and when he sucked on it her milk filled his mouth, mingling with the taste of rum, and he had never tasted anything so fine and sweet and good. If I do this I am no better than Dareon, Sam thought, but it felt too good to stop. And suddenly his cock was out, jutting upward from his breeches like a fat pink mast. It looked so silly standing there that he might have laughed, but Gilly pushed him back onto her pallet, hiked her skirts up around her thighs, and lowered herself onto him with a little whimpery sound. That was even better than her nipples.
>"BROH LESBIANS ARE HAWT BROH"
Kek, Yara's actress wasn't even attractive
>Why did they make her show character a dyke?
Yara claimed that she is bisexual in the show. This isn't demonstrated at all and the fanbase won't acknowledge it, but Yara IS a bisexual.
No, of course not. These soulless cretins will find something else to ruin.
Having a younger brother is absolutely based and redpilled.
t. oldest child
It was best when Rob and Ned where still living. Sansa, Arya and Bran are terrible characters, nobody care about them, sansa was always shit, but how they fucking destroyed arya in last few season, and how much potential they wasted with Bran is just unacceptable.
>Everyone else is posing and having fun
>Kit pokes his head out and looks gormless into the camera
At least we know why he's so good at seeming gormless in the show
now that is some unsexy erotica
Nah, it would be much more based if she put my fat dong in her mouth
This, she was Norf incarnate. It sucks that she's fuckugly, her description in the books was my fetish buffet
I'm talking about her book character, Asha, not show Yara.
Prequels will be Kino in a few years when most normies have stepped off the hype train and Dabid is long gone. Blackfyre Rebellions, Dunk and Egg, Robert’s Rebellion etc etc
Ned and Robb carried this house hard after they died it was far from best house
user she's already dead
Such a meanie, ur right tho
Literally the only two Starks worth a goddamn.
I don't even know why people even acknowledge the show at this point. Everything past the first two seasons was terrible.
in about 20 years
well shit I never cared about her eye color on the show but that looks dope
Ah shit I'm sorry bud.
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that these two did nothing wrong ?
Blackfyre Rebellion, and Robert's Rebellion won't even be attempted, confirmed by George, he also said he tried to get HBO to buy Dunk and Egg and they weren't interested since it's "too slow". You'll take your multicultural First Men and Valyrian shows and you're going to like them.
I stopped watching in season 2 because of how shit of an adaptation it was
Hey now, Xena was a great show.
>I'm talking about her book character, Asha, not show Yara.
Which is why I didn't bring up Asha. As far as I know, Asha is straight. D&D changed her name to Yara to avoid people confusing her with Osha, and they made her a bisexual for reasons I do not know.
>but Yara IS a bisexual.
In the show, she doesn't seem to be interested in men or getting married. Maybe she will get married later on and have kids, but so did renly.
A female doesn't automatically mean bisexual.
Ned, Robb, Jon and bookArya are good. Others are trash.
>Prequels will be Kino i
If it's the Long Night prequel it will be the biggest disaster in world history.
In 20 years Daenerys will be portrayed as a fat nigger with three missing teeth and Stannis will be a Jewish manlet
It's from Sam's POV, so duh. The tone of chapters varies based on the character's personality.
Name one normal relationship on the show
Me and your sister
Then why was Cersei's lesbian experimentation equally shit
Literally why wouldnt they do Roberts Rebellion? They don’t have to write shit, characters will be recognizable för viewers, solid prequel story, mad King Kino... Is it George who sperged or something?
Sansa and Petyr
>A female doesn't automatically mean bisexual.
No, but Yara telling Ellaria Sand in season 7 episode 2 that she is bisexual, means that she is bisexual. It's possible that she decided to lie about her sexuality for literally no reason, but I don't think that's the case.
All girls are bi. But she is straight in preference.
>Asha's mother, Lady Alannys Harlaw, fostered five boys at Pyke after Theon's departure. Asha experimented with Tristifer Botley, the boy closest to Asha in age, during puberty, although his feels were stronger than hers.[4] Tris was sent away to Blacktyde after Maester Qalen caught the youths together.[4]
>Asha grew into an attractive and bold young woman,[1] and Balon effectively raised his wild and headstrong daughter as his heir.[6] However, Asha preferred Ten Towers, the seat of her uncle Rodrik Harlaw, to Pyke. She lost her virtue at age 16 to a sailor from Lys.[4]
>change the name of a PoV character to avoid confusion with a side character
>when we already have two Roberts and a Robb
does anyone have that image where all the stark children are done poorly?
Nothing indicates she's not infertile in the books. The prophecy seems to be completed, but it could be a bogus curse and she be damaged for real by Rhaego's birth.
>implying the story of Mupda of House Doodidda, King of the Summer Isles and Azor Ahai won't be kino
>cersei lesbo scene
wew post it lads
Yeah George said by the time the books are finished we will know everything there is to know about Robert's Rebellion and that it will feel like telling the same tale twice, there would be no place for le ebin twists and the like. Don't mind the fact that 99% of showwatchers don't even know who Robert is, and that GoT itself was just a second telling of ASOIAF.
Season 1 was very good, and it was an adaptation.
We'll probably never have a good complete adaptation.
ASOIAF should be adapted when GRRM finish his books but into anime or normal animation. No reason to make another actor show. You can have better adaptation doing anime.
GURM is just being an absolute faggot who says we don't need to see Robert's rebellion because we know what the result is. Yes, his reason is retarded, and he thinks people don't want to see young Robert and Ned adventuring together, going up to Harrenhal and then going to war
you mean this?
So basically everything that went down at the Tower of Joy and Starfall? Not much else to cover before that other than the finer details of stuff like the battles at Summerhall or Ashford.
Look up Cersei Myrish swamp and you'll find the scene easy enough
>asoiaf
>but with tentacle rape and guro
wew
>into anime
cringing hard
King of the Hill style would be better than weeb schlock
Yeah lol. If we know Dunk and Egg both die in the end then why write those stories, George?
Animation is insanely expensive and not profitable at all, it would be horribly inefficient for a story as long as this where 95% of the content is people standing around talking.
What exactly is so bad about the choreography in this scene? Asking for a friend who doesn't know shit about fights.
Kek, got btfo
ASoIaF would be much better as an animated show because they could go all out and show the crazy set peices GRRM described.
I think weebAsoiaf would be kino
>Cersei becoming Robert in the books with the drinking and try to sexually dom someone like he did with her
>Cersei noticing her dresses are tighter on her so assumes it must be the servants fucking up the washing rather than her gaining fat and ponders whether or not she should punish them brutally, cut off hands, etc.
George must have had fun writing the POV of a deluded, narcissistic piece of shit like Cersei. And knowing what Cersei is, part of you feels a little bit bad for her during the Walk of Shame.
KotH would be better than any option, period
Im gonna see this movie just because of this poster
Also movie posters thread
Surprisingly accurate
He turned her hand over and lightly kissed her wrist. “So tell me, sweetling—why is Harry the Heir?”
Her eyes widened. “He is not Lady Waynwood’s heir. He’s Robert’s heir. If Robert were to die . . .”
Petyr arched an eyebrow. “When Robert dies. Our poor brave Sweetrobin is such a sickly boy, it is only a matter of time. When Robert dies, Harry the Heir becomes Lord Harrold, Defender of the Vale and Lord of the Eyrie. Jon Arryn’s bannermen will never love me, nor our silly, shaking Robert, but they will love their Young Falcon . . . and when they come together for his wedding, and you come out with your long auburn hair, clad in a maiden’s cloak of white and grey with a direwolf emblazoned on the back . . . why, every knight in the Vale will pledge his sword to win you back your birthright. So those are your gifts from me, my sweet Sansa . . . Harry, the Eyrie, and Winterfell. That’s worth another kiss now, don’t you think?”
Do it in this style. Don't give me some 'hurr it's like anime!' bullshit. It's good for 2d animation and can capture the world well. Pic related basically is an animated Dany.
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>This is what a british boys voice sounds like mid puberty
the fucking sound makes me want to rip my ears from my head
>there are people who think this is good
yes, thank you
What makes anime art anime art? I'm not a weeb fucking shit, so is it just really big eyes and over the top body language and movements made by Japs?
>All girls are bi
That's where you're wrong, kiddo
Robb is a 10/10 the fuck you on about?
Stfu weeb
Most annoying thing about this character by far were those screams she made during battle, especially when she was getting desperate or overwhelmed like when fighting the Hound or the Wights. Sounds a fucking defective banshee.
>he doesn't enjoy english catboys
“But?” Cersei prompted.
“They are never alone. The king’s with them most all the time, and when he’s not, there’s someone else. Two of her ladies share her bed, different ones every night. Two others bring her breakfast and help her dress. She prays with her septa, reads with her cousin Elinor, sings with her cousin Alla, sews with her cousin Megga. When she’s not off hawking with Janna Fossoway and Merry Crane, she’s playing come-into-my-castle with that little Bulwer girl. She never goes riding but she takes a tail, four or five companions and a dozen guards at least. And there’s always men about her, even in the Maidenvault.”
“Men.” That was something. That had possibilities. “What men are these, pray tell?”
Ser Osmund shrugged. “Singers. She’s a fool for singers and jugglers and such. Knights, come round to moon over her cousins. Ser Tallad’s the worst, Osney says. That big oaf don’t seem to know if it’s Elinor or Alla he wants, but he knows he wants her awful bad. The Redwyne twins come calling too. Slobber brings flowers and fruit, and Horror’s taken up the lute. To hear Osney tell it, you could make a sweeter sound strangling a cat. The Summer Islander’s always underfoot as well.”
“Jalabhar Xho?” Cersei gave a derisive snort. “Begging her for gold and swords to win his homeland back, most like.” Beneath his jewels and feathers, Xho was little more than a wellborn beggar. Robert could have put an end to his importuning for good with one firm “No,” but the notion of conquering the Summer Isles had appealed to her drunken lout of a husband. No doubt he dreamt of brown-skinned wenches naked beneath feathered cloaks, with nipples black as coal.
>Nipples: black as coal
>a dragon named Drogon
>a raider named Rayder
But what of ser justin meets an unexpected end?
Not a weeb, sperg. Never watched an anime in my life. But I saw this art and my instant thought was that it's suitable for an adaptation.
Is this weebart?
As a style it's pretty good but ideally it'd be less caricature-like and the characters should look more like their descriptions in the books, the actor's likenesses as a base should remain.
>*raises paw*
I've also been wondering about this
It needs to be chibi style. Pic is Tyrion and Sansa.
Literally no one gave a shit about shitlissa, user
The eyes are a big thing yes. Also the colors. Anime tends to have vivid colors with a decent enough blending (while western cartoons have colors but almost looking paint bucketed in)
Also softer lines and features vs more angular geometrics.
>a baker named baker
>a miller named miller
>a smith named smith
>a potter named potter
>a bowman named bowman
>a raider named Rayder
thats how regular last names are formed, why do you think people have the last name smith? or fisher? or taylor etc.
also drogon is named after drogo
I don't regard your baiting skills highly, user.
How did Alannys die?
Based!
Whatever, 90% of girls are bi. More than half of women in a sexually liberated society will lick clam at some point.
Why did she name a dragon after Frodo's dad?
This would be worth watching. But it's only possible if the fat man finished the goshdarn books
>Khal Frodo
imagine
Basically pic related. I've seen anons moan about the westerlands being called the westerlands cause they're in the west but that's the same deal with Austria, isn't? Called eastern realm because it's east of all those German states. A lot of the bitching about the books on Yea Forums reeks of smug fags thinking they are much smarter than they actually are. They're book Cersei damn near enough
Not a problem brianposter
"I don't have time / I'm too busy" is the most cancerous, dishonest phrase in the American vernacular at the moment imo. Especially when it comes to people discussing the industry they are working on
>I make video games for a living but i don't play any of them because i'm too busy
>I book wrestling shows but I don't watch them because i'm too busy
>I act in movies and television but I don't watch movies and television because I'm too busy
We have these psycho workaholics who don't give one shit about the quality of their industry putting out thousands of hours of CRAP and you can't sift through it all to find anything worth watching because of these assholes.
I thought GRRM wasn't one of them because he seemed like a lazy fat-ass, but I guess I thought wrong.
That didn't age well
not me, bucko
Cat and ned.
She isn't dead, but she went mad after losing her sons and spends most of her time crying for Theon to return.
Stop larping
>t. Cat
Fuck off T*lly
Dany won't burn king's landing in the books
no u
>loveless political marriage Ned inherited from his older brother while never getting to be with the love of his life even though she loved him back
>Cat also had to settle for the beta version of Brandon
Too many secrets for the relationship to be considered normal
>>I book wrestling shows but I don't watch them because i'm too busy
Well in this case it's because the subject in question is unwatchable
Can The Last Kingdom be technically called low fantasy at this point?
They ended up falling in love though. It's obvious from their POV chapters there was genuine love.
>AAAAAAAH SAVE ME VARYS
>I know a killer when I see one
What did they mean by this?
not really lol
POST THE DAMN FIC 'FORE 'A PISS MEESELF!
>burns an entire city in front of everyone
>I KNOW A KILLER WHEN I SEE ONE
Yeah no shit
What is going through Bran's mind at this EXACT moment?
161th for the best boy
Because HBO freaked after that episode where Jamie rapes Cersei and forced D&D to include as much shit as possible to appease blue haired dykes on twitter.
She's very smart.
she meant that she had eyes
Ned is too nice to let it be known that he is eternally seething he didn't get to marry Ashara and wishes the Old Gods would bring ruin to the Trouts
>beta version of Brandon
Ned was the real alpha
BUT I'M PROTECTOR OF THE VA-AAARGH
Based and pederastpilled
Went I see Benioff and Weiss, I think of the Spitting Image version of Blair and Mandelson but with Weiss as Mandelson. Weiss looks like his head should be attached to a worm's body. He reminds me of that Steve Buscemi looking worm from Corpse Bride.
Is there any good reason why they didn't just keep it like the book instead of inventing some bullshit character? It would have made so much more sense.
>CRAAAAWLING IN MY SKIN
>the red keep caused the burning of king's landing
Reminder this is what D&D said caused this.
We literally read his thoughts. He misses Catelyn when he's King's Landing and looks forward to holding her again when he thinks he's going home.
Read the bloody first book then.
>God i wish Meera would rape me, it would be so beautiful
>"Quiet Wolf"
>alpha
Not in this life
>didn't kill Robert for his sister
Beta as shit
Her screaming is a character trait and always has been
Jaime finds her battle scream hot in the books
I laughed the entire time. Cersei getting dabbed on by the smallfolk was too funny.
Though she had been too young to witness the spectacle herself, Cersei had heard the stories growing up from the mouths of washerwomen and guardsmen who had been there. They spoke of how the woman had wept and begged, of the desperate way she clung to her garments when she was commanded to disrobe, of her futile efforts to cover her breasts and her sex with her hands as she hobbled barefoot and naked through the streets to exile. “Vain and proud she was, before,” she remembered one guard saying, “so haughty you’d think she’d forgot she come from dirt. Once we got her clothes off her, though, she was just another whore.”
>...
I am beautiful, she reminded himself. How many times had Jaime told her that? Even Robert had given her that much, when he came to her bed in his cups to pay her drunken homage with his cock.
>...
“Whore!” someone cried out. A woman’s voice. Women were always the cruelest where other women were concerned.
Cersei ignored her. There will be more, and worse. These creatures have no sweeter joy in life than jeering at their betters.
>...
“Harlot,” a voice screamed. Another woman. Something flew out of the crowd. Some rotted vegetable.
>...
She walked on. “Hot pies,” the baker’s boy was crying. “Getcha hot pies here.”
>...
The meat looked suspiciously like rat to Cersei’s eyes, but the smell of it filled the air, and half the men around them were gnawing away with sticks in hand by the time the street was clear enough for her to resume her trek. “Want some, Your Grace?” one man called out. He was a big, burly brute with pig eyes, a massive gut, and an unkempt black beard that reminded her of Robert. When she looked away in disgust, he flung the skewer at her.
>...
“Whore” and “sinner” were most common, but “brotherfucker” and “cunt” and “traitor” were flung at her as well, and now and again she heard someone shout out for Stannis or Margaery.
She's frigid hag in the show but is meant to be younger and hot in the books though.
Tywin and Joanna
She's the second hottest actress in the show
>Called eastern realm because it's east of all those German states
Wait, what? It's south of them
The absolute nerve of these goobers to use the 'behind le scenes' to fill in gaps in the plot. How on earth was that conveyed in the actual episode?
Aerys probably fucked Joanna more times than Tywin did
Alpha is not synonymous with loudmouth retard
Roose was quiet too, until he needed to speak
Im an autist and might buy an Oathkeeper
Where could i get one?
>Charred babby and children all over the place, skin melting off their faces boiling blood and guts seeping through every orifice
>300 iq stark brain kicks in
She's a killer!!
Josamund Peckledon and Pretty Pia
I dunno man, I'm used to names that are so old that that basic connection is lost in the mists of time
So I guess I would expect the same process to happen in Westeros and have a few places with names that are distorted and mangled versions of "basic" names in the Old Tongue or something like that
Aerys couldn't even get it up without somebody being immolated in close proximity.
Someone throws a dead cat too and it explodes with the cuts, blood, and maggots covering her.
>say this was the end of the Dothraki in episode 3
>still see a shitton of Dothraki in next episodes
These fuckheads should just shut up and say nothing
He was literally too shy to ask Ashara for a dance, he would've stayed that way all his life if circumstances didn't push him into becoming more assertive, and even then he was an honorable fool
Kevan and Dorna
>and now and again she heard someone shout out for Stannis
literally me
>Our blades are sharp
>keep skins of enemies in secret dungeons
>keep practicing up to this day
Are Boltons the most emo/cringe house out there?
South-east.
But it's unwatchable because they don't watch it and don't realize what crap it is. It's a paradox.
>We literally read his thoughts. He misses Catelyn when he's King's Landing and looks forward to holding her again when he thinks he's going home.
It's implied there's something with Ashara.
He can love Cat and still think of Ashara as that waifu that should have been. That's perfectly normal
>seasons 1-4
>watch behind the scenes to get extra content
>seasons 5-8
>watch behind the scenes to figure out what happened last episode
Never denied that, bro. We know there was something with Ashara. I'm only saying that this claim he never fell in love with Catelyn after a marriage initially born out of necessity is wrong.
Greyjoys are worse
test
Nononono you see the dothraki and unsullied can multiply like cells.
greyjoys are kino
Someone redpill on Agghh became a meme. I wasn't here in 2015.
Robb is a more prominent character in the show, I guess that's why they wanted to change it. I don't think D&D understand character motivations, though
>the two most popular and sympathetic characters: Daenerys and Jon
one dead, other exiled
>the three most boring and annoying: Bran, Sansa, Arya
win everything
What did George R. R. Martin mean by this?
>Western Westeros is named westerlands and westeros is west of essos because essos is east of westeros
I understand what you're saying, but don't you think this is a little retarded
Ned did grow to love Cat but, he was still fucked over from love at first sight soulmate tier love by Hoster Tully being an absolute cunt and demanding he get two marriages to great houses before helping stop the insane tyrant burning Lord paramounts for fun
If they had both died heroically everyone would have been ok with it
absolutely nothing
show =/= books
The real retardation is having every cultural group in Westeros be virtually interchangeable with each other despite the continent being the size of South America. Apparently in ASoIaF languages and cultures don't evolve over time.
Arryn should've just let Tully rot, Aerys would probably come for him next
It was pretty sensible to be honest. Those marriages mean Hoster is honour bound to the rebel cause. It actually gives Ned, Robert, and Jon assurance Hoster will stick with them.
There's also that Cat isn't THAT beautiful.
She's okay, especially given she's in her late 30s in the books, but she's not nearly as beautiful as Cersei, or Ashara supposedly was
He was fucked over with Ashara by Brandon literally fucking her
>and now and again she heard someone shout out for Stannis
Absolutely based Kings landing fag.
STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS
>What did George R. R. Martin mean by this?
You mean D&D? The show isn't canon
>t. Ashara
cope. Oh wait you can't 'cause you're dead hahaha
Aye, but still pretty hot. It's not like Ned was saddled with a fucking Florent or someone who's mental facilities were such they let themself go to shit like Lysa.
Jon canon king beyond the wall now.
Bran doesn't exist
Arya is Amerigo Vespucci/Tomb Raider now
Salsa won the actual game of thrones because everyone underestimated her.
AAAAAAH HELP ME CATELYN
cite me one source aside from Big Bro asking the Dayne girl to dance with his quiet little brother
My memory of the Ned and Ashara stuff is sketchy beyond their Harrenhal dance. Before she supposedly died at Starfall, did they ever interact outside of Harrenhal and how do we know it was a deep, deep love they had?
>"The rape made me stronger" - Sansa
wtf bros i thought faggots couldn't be based
It wasn't rape
>It wasn't rape
D&D are so fucking stupid they didn't even convey it wasn't rape in the scene.
Yes, and Ned brought Ashara her dead brother and family sword post tower of joy, probably swapping babies while doing so.
can't believe some of you retards STILL don't realise this ending is GRRM's canon, he's said it unequivocally so many times
Bran approves.
>we will never get scenes with Stannis in the small council, sharing a room with the likes of Renly, Varys and Littlefinger and all their sarcastic japes and farthuffery
Moron.
The howler monkey with the smallest balls screams the loudest.
Worked for this guy
Reminder that stannis is a man of true iron and therefore the perfect candidate for the iron throne
Reminder that mel is a retard who will bun shireen because she thinks stannis is dead and stannis's wife would allow this because she's a zealot which will provoke stannis to banish both of them
Reminder that stannis will marry asha and father a true born baratheon heir to the iron throne, a son who would have blood of pure iron and a unbendable spine
Reminder that martin himself is a stannisfag and that all the characters martin admires the most are stannisfags
Reminder that stannis is the only character that martin ever refers to as king
Reminder that stannis WILL sit on the iron throne before he gets killed by dany
*dies offscreen*
>Brandon, a man who goes and tries to kill the autistic prince who kidnapped his sister in his own Castle fucked the woman his shy little brother was in love with
>Despite being engaged to the trout lady
>And possibly loving a northern lass
Brandon didn't fuck Ashara, he played wingman for Ned during Harrenhal
>you feels a little bit bad for her
Lol, no. Bitch got what she deserved. She will forever be remember as a thot with sagging tits and stetch marks on the belly
Guess I didn't word it correctly. My mention about Starfall means I'm aware he brought the sword, etc. to her at Starfall before she supposedly jumped. But outside of Harrenhal and Starfall, anything? How do we know they are a deep love and not simply a fleeting infatuation Ned had?
Arya, Bran, Jaime, Theon, Jon, and Dany should have flown North when the undead were near winterfell to lure the undead away from killing everyone and set a trap for the night king.
>Might she have looked to me instead of Stark
user what is Ned's last name?
>Reminder that martin himself is a stannisfag and that all the characters martin admires the most are stannisfags
>Reminder that stannis is the only character that martin ever refers to as king
really?
All of the Starks have room temperature IQs but they measure temperature in Kelvin.
All those tax policies got him busy.
i wish they hadn't made him such a dick in the show.
isn't that cucklord's POV? white beard is not a good source for information
Maybe if you're into horses
Yes, she did get what she deserved. She's a POS. I'm only saying it was written in such a way that it did give you that. Mainly when she had a full on break down and ran crying covering her bits up.
Brandon didn't fuck Ashara.
That would legitimately make no thematic sense for what the tourney at Harrenhal was suppose to represent.
It was the calm before the storm, the promise of a summer that never came, etc.
Having that shit devolve into brother cucking brother makes no fucking sense. The tourney itself is suppose to be idealization of westeros (with the exception of Rhaegar giving Lyanna the crown, which was the point of no return).
Ned either fucked Ashara or they promised themselves to each other and Barristan assumed there was sex.
But there wasn't any cucking.
>Reminder that stannis is the only character that martin ever refers to as king
Well of course he created him to be the king of the realm that we all need.
KING STANNIS. PRINCESS SHIRREN AND PRINCE SWEETROBIN
Greyjoys and dorkstar are way worse. Though admittedly dorkstar isn't a house, just a single retard
Was the Blackfish a fag?
Could there be a show explanation for why everyone got stupider since season 7?
God damn Stannis fags have become extra delusional lately.
Reminder that this Stannis nigger will never post any sources to these bullshit claims.
correct
>What is going through Bran's mind at this EXACT moment?
"I can't wait to cause the deaths of a million people and become King."
>looked up the baby swapping theory
Makes sense. Ned leaving the purple eyed kid with Ashara because of their family's history of having such genes, and taking the kid that more better pass as a Stark.
Though I never even considered that the Septa with Young Griff could be Ashara.
>Tyrion isn't born a dwarf, he is a normal human bean
>Joanna doesn't die in childbirth
What changes?
There's no real evidence beyond his refusal to marry, but fans will speculate.
Yer a funneh man.
Dayne is a turbobased house, Darkstar is an anime character who got born into the cadet branch and then threw an autistic fit when they wouldn't give him Dawn, claiming he was of the night and didn't want to be sword of the morning
Lannisters take over Westeros forever with two Tywins at the helm
If Barristan was talking about Ned, why is he friendly with Ned in the first book?
If Ned had a tragic love affair with Ashara, why does he never think of her in his POVs or about her child who would have been his real bastard? Why does he get angry when her name is mentioned? Why does he have some latent anger towards his brother ("It was all for Brandon")?
Brandon fucked Ashara
The books really are so much better than the show it's not funny
Tyrion would be pounding Tysha's puss right now, and have atleast 3 kids already.
>"I'll need to send a horse to my sister - Arya's advice to Jon will be vital for my rise."
Problem with that theory is that Tyrion never comments on her eyes being purple, though he initially made this oversight with Young Griff. He also never comments on her being a stunning beauty, which Ashara was.
AAAHHHHHHHH
THE STARKSH
>Salsa won the actual game of thrones because everyone underestimated her.
She "won the Game of Thrones" because the writing is fucking terrible. Nothing she did in season 8 was smart, and she is given independence for no reason.
exposure to dragonglass mining fumes
Because someone like Ned would refuse to even think about such emotions while married to Cat.
There's an underlying implication that something deeper was there. Barristan saw it. Howland Reed talked to his kids about it, and it would completely deconstruct Ned as a character.
It would humanize him through a fault. That he had sex out of wedlock for love and not duty. That he was then unable to honour that by marrying her due to other obligations.
do you have a subscription to BLACKED?
Based!
Cute!
no jaime/cersei fucking
tyrion has happier childhood
I doubt GURM would have the subtlety if he envisioned him gay. He'd be living with four men that call themselves Rainbow Trouts.
Ned's true love is Catelyn, he dodged a bullet
Oh, alright, fairs. I should do a reread. You forget these little details now and again, like I forgot about Waters stealing Cersei's fleet and either being the pirate king or heading North for Stannis until some user mentioned it here the other day.
>friendly
He was respectful at most. Barristan was putting his head in the sand at the time, trying to ignore just how shit his life had become
>Why does he never think of her in the book
He literally has a fever dream about killing her brother. We don't see him with Lyanna. We see him killing Dayne.
Even outside of that, it's not about what Ned thinks about. It's all the little implications all around.
>Brandon fucked Ashara
That makes no sense. What would be the point?
Yes, brandon, who is known for fucking every girl he come across, didn't fuck that girl who litrally threw herself at him
Lannisters rule glorious and eternal.
who is now overseeing the wall? it was used to send away the worst criminals of the seven kingdoms, will the 6 kingdoms sent it's criminals through the entire north to get them to the wall? how will they be dealt with? can't imagine northern lords will like to see KL rapists strolling through town
Joanna makes Tywin smile (occasionally), gives Cersei and Jaime the maternal love they so desperately need so that they don’t fuck each other and even Tywin occasionally gives a hug or two. Joanna dropkicks Tyrion whenever he whores around and eventually he stops whoring all together.
>Why so he friendly with Ned
Because it's all done and they're both honorfags. Ashara is dead for all they know and neither of them ended up with her, so why would Barristan hold a grudge over something Ned never ended up with because of duty, just like him and the kingsguard.
>Why does he never think about her or her child
Because the memory is too painful to dwell on? He loved her and she killed herself after their child died. Or if the baby swapping theory is correct it's because Martin didn't think about it and Ned wondering if Ashara and the kid he left with her was doing alright would give away a metric fuck ton of information he didn't want readers to have
>Why does he have latent anger towards his brother
He doesn't though, the it was all for Brandon thing is him feeling he never should have been Lord of winterfell and Warden of the North, he doesn't feel like he should have it, and knows it was Brandon's by right. Brandon didn't fuck Ashara
Tywin never has Elia killed because Joanna was a softening influence on him.
I'm not sure of the Reynes was before or after Joanna's death, but if it was after, I'd say they're still alive as well, though to be fair, they had it coming.
Cersei and Jaime never went too deep into the incest rabbit hole
If Tyrion still meets Tysha, he might not end up with her but at least the fallout isn't nearly as tragic.
>someone shout out for Stannis
based stannisfags
Tywin would chill out a little more and Tyrion would be the next in line for Casterly Rock with a happier life. Lannisters are probably much more stable. Tyrion would be less of a bookworm though because he read books to compensate for being a dwarf.
It's just laid bare what the NW always was - a glorified jobs program for misfits and reprobates
What was Brans rape policy?
Tyrion would basically be a Chad but a more hellraising, reckless one because he isn't the heir, and he's eventually be reeled in and tutored into being a really effective tool for the House making use of both his brain and probably the greater martial prowess and charisma he'd have a normal guy with good looks.
Sorry, man, when a piece of shit gets what's coming to him i never feel bad for him, even a little bit
The point of it is for N + A = J to be a red herring for R+ L = J
C'mon man, not even a little?
>t. Cat
Your goblin genes are a Blight upon the world Tully
Jaime would still be Kingsguarded though right?
He wanted to be Arthur Dayne before Joanna died.
If anything, Tywin wouldn't have minded as much I imagine, but it'd still have been totally traumatized by Aerys bullshit and having to protect him.
Who cares, what the Wall was built to defend against has been killed by a 12 year old girl
Fully legal
Because you can't be a strong woman without dominating weak women. Or some shit.
These fuckfaces trip all over themselves all the time.
Don't waste your breath, user. Ashara autismos will never admit that their waifu was a thot who fucked a chad.
LANCEL
FETCH
honorfriends* please
No, I mean, what's the fucking point of Brandon fucking Ashara?
I agree that Ned and Ashara might just be a red herring. The thing is, R+L=J is so stupidly obvious when you think about it, that having it be N+A=J is if anything more of a subversion.
In a series that subverts expectations (I mean in a good way, not in a D&D way), what's the best way to fuck with your readership than just having Ned be a normal young adult that did stick his dick where he shouldn't have and just wasn't able to take responsibility for it because he had other things to take responsibility for.
Sansa is cute, Dany is a slut
Nope
>my waifu
Ned's waifu*
My GoT waifu is Visenya.
I have to wonder how many people would have figured out R+L=J were it not for the fan forums/internet where people compiled all the evidence, it gained traction, etc. Reckon it would have dawned on you all by your lonesome had you read the series? I gotta wonder too.
Sandra a cute, Dany a corpse
still, where will they now be sent? prisons will overflow all over the place
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I also believe Elia and her children wouldn’t have died per Tywin’s orders as Joanna was good friends with the Princess of Dorne and they planned for Jaime to marry Elia and Oberyn to marry Cersei.
I don’t think Joanna would ever forgive Tywin if their deaths came to pass.
Dany is cute and she is my queen
THREADSTRETCHER
>Asharafags are waifufags
>Despite all of them saying her and Ned were in love
Fuck you, my waifu in this series is best sister Visenya
"Blue Rose growing on an ice Wall" is as obvious as it gets my man
To the bottom of the sea
>so why would Barristan hold a grudge over something Ned never ended up with because of duty
He clearly does have a grudge though, as seen in >he doesn't feel like he should have it, and knows it was Brandon's by right
Here's the line:
>That brought a bitter twist to Ned’s mouth. “Brandon. Yes. Brandon would know what to do. He always did. It was all meant for Brandon. You, Winterfell, everything. He was born to be a King’s Hand and a father to queens. I never asked for this cup to pass to me.”
That "bitter twist" and "He always did" strongly suggests it's more than "I never asked for this"
threw herself at him?
Back to your prison!!
Imagine having your waifu raped by based shirtless bolton
Tywin in general would be far less ruthless
He'd still drown a house if they stepped too out of line but he'd never have condoned the Mountain's bullshit
If he HAD gave the order, and the Mountain had done anything less than a quick "as painless as possible" kill, he'd have had Gregor drawn and quartered.
While forums definitely let retards like Dabid and Dan get R+L=J, American Tolkien isn't nearly as good at subtlety as he thinks, its not the biggest riddle of all time, see
The show isn't canon
Max Level cope
You can just as easily say that he never wanted Cat because he wanted Ashara
Again, N+A people know they're just fagging up with headcanon (at least I hope we all do. I sure do), but it's still a peak tragic romance kino if it does come to pass.
Visenya is best girl and Aegon is a retard for not preferring her over Rhaenys
I admit I'd never would have thought about it, but then again, I also didn't read past book one because I can't stand GRRM's writing style.
I love his world, I love his plot, I love his characters. I can't stand his prose.
But that's a whole book after later in one where Lyanna's stuff isn't really detailed and it's one vision among dozens and dozens Dany has in the chapter. Present it as it is now, sure, but in that context I'm not so sure it's going to pop out at you instantly as a clue to Jon's background.
>N-not canon!
OH NO NO NO
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
How am I coping? Ramsay is raping Salsa's best friend while she is safe in the Vale.
The blue rose in a wall of ice happens in a Dany chapter so most people aren't going to be thinking about Jon Snow at that point.
Although it's a clue that Dany will fuck Jon
That Selmy thought process doesn't seem like he's holding a grudge, just that he's depressed how it ended and how he didn't act while he had the chance.
>Ned's line about Brandon
I read that as Ned not being able to recall what happened to Brandon without getting angry, just like Bobby can't ever think of Lyanna without thinking of killing Rhaegar. I'll concede you could take the line as he resents Brandon a bit, but I don't think that's steal the love of Ned's life levels of resentment. More resentment he acted stupid and left all this responsibility to Ned who never thought he'd have it
Showfags say dumb shit. One made a TWoW prediction saying Theon was going to save Sansa. When I said this was a retarded prediction for that book, I was told the book is basically going to be the show and I'm a deluded moron for thinking otherwise.
I don't think N+A=J you buffoon
What happened was
>Ned and Ashara met at Harrenhal, they fucked and Ned promised to marry her because honour
>Rhaegar ruined everything like the autistic targ he is and abducted Lyanna
>Brandon and Rickard got AERYSed.com and Ned inherited the Norf
>him and Jon were forced in marriage to Tully shits in return for the Riverlands, he accepts because duty and shit
>Ned and Ashara's child ends up stillborn sending her into a depression worsened by the fact that her husbando married a fucking Tully and Arthur got wasted trying to protect yet another Targshit
>Ashara offs herself because she has nothing left to live for
It's in a chapter with dozens and dozens of visions, and it's in the second book. Lyanna's stuff mostly gets detailed in the first, so of course you can miss the blue rose connection and that specific vision.
Imagine your waifu raped by a savage and killed by her "true love" because Salsa the Broken in Rough mindraped you.
This. The people complaining about Jon being too obvious as a hero only think that because they were spoon fed all the little nuances leading up to his big reveal.
I can't believe there's still a general going
which is good because i just remembered how bad the ending was
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHGH
>but I don't think that's steal the love of Ned's life
But Ashara isn't the love of Ned's life. Catelyn is. Ned has probably mostly forgiven Brandon after 14 years, but there's still some hurt left, it's realistic.
What comes to your mind when you hear the words "based and Lannispilled?"
The WHORE stretcher.
Jon being actually Ned's kid would heighten it though, the tragedy I mean.
I didn't go onto the forums until after I finished aFfC and I thought Jon was Ned and Lyanna's son.
>It seems you've made a typo, fellow /got/ poster! What you meant to write is "based and Mannispilled"
Cat is not in any way that into Ned or Ned into her.
A lot of their relationship is still out of duty.
It's not even the most interesting fan theory
>the twist is Jon is Ned's kid with Rhaegar
That's pretty much all marriages. It works because you make it work.
>Jon is Ned's kid with Lyanna
sneaky Norfman was playing 5D chess all along
That's just blatantly untrue
>Rhaegar was secretly a woman all along.
Honestly it'd fit.
Ned strikes me as an absolute lad. Makes sense Catelyn would come to love him. Nobody can seem to say anything bad about the guy other than "too honourable"
How long can hate hold a thing together?
Prison sentence wasn't really a thing, so those people would wait in prison for their trial then receive their punishment and be released/executed
>femRhaegar abducts Ned and forces him to breed her
>dragons have no fixed gender, but are “now one and now the other, as changeable as flame”.[28] Barth believed that dragons can change sex at need
>Rhaegar became a tranny, wore a wig and fucked Ned to fulfill the prophecy
>Ned thought it was Ashara all along
based GRRM does it again
women don't desire honor, they desire spontaneous sex from their brothers
lol
>try to reply to this post with a edited Bobby B quote when he tells Ned he'll put his head on a spike but with edits like I'll have jannies ban you
>Gets marked as spam over and over
WHAT A STUPID BOARD.
>women want to fuck their brothers
Life isnt a poorly written harem anime
EXPECTATIONS SUBVERTED
YES IT IS
YOU FUCKING LIAR
Castamere
Not hate. It's just difficult to always get along with a person who you live with for that long. Love isn't easy.
>become a tranny
Wait, did he use magic to literally rule 63 himself?
Because if it's magic it's alright according to the rules.
Well that settles it
N+L=J
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