>worst doctor is the most popular one
what is it about matt smith's doctor that appeals to normies so much?
Worst doctor is the most popular one
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That's not Baker/Tennant
Although you're right, those are both the worst
Doctor Poo is the most sóy series ever made
>Baker
No normalfag has ever sat through even a single Baker serial because old doctor who is fucking boring.
every generation has normalfags user, classicfags all prattle on about their muh quirky XD Doctor just like kids today go on about theirs
only americans like matt smith
I completely agree with you.
Matt is certainly not the worst
>worst
Easily the best.
>old doctor who is fucking boring.
Cringe
smith is easily one of the best. fantastic physical performance. smith, eccleston, capaldi, troughton, mcgann. all great actors.
it's tennant that the normies love. he's fine.
>worst doctor is the most popular one
this is true, but it's not Matt Smith.
It's clearly Tennant
Based Eccleston, he’s even better in The Leftovers
Eccleston is such a confident actor. Look who relaxed he looks here. Completely unpretentious or tryhard
Matt Smith isn't bad, it's his episodes that are shit. Matt Smith did a good job with what he was given. Doctor Who was never good, but it became unwatchable after Matt Smith showed up because of the change in direction. They went from a low budget sci-fi show to some kind of retarded Nickelodeon live action show.
>worst doctor is the most popular one
You didn't post a picture of Tennant though. What reality do you live in?
actually let's be honest all arguments about "worst doctor" have unironically been permanently settled by Series 11, I can't even jokingly pretend it's Tennant anymore
>Doctor Who was never good
You sure?
Series 11 put everything into perspective for me. It made me really appreciate the lightning in a bottle that Doctor Who was from 2005 to 2017. Its soul is gone now. I used to say Tennant was the worst, but I even think he's brilliant compared to Whittaker's uninspired turn. I don't know whether it's the directors or what. It's just gone shit in basically every aspect.
Chibnall has a half-assed vision for the show, a job he didn't originally even want, and that mediocrity has bled down into the stories, the characterisation, the performances, pretty much every aspect of it. You really do start to appreciate just how much ass RTD/Moffat constantly hauled to try and keep the show engaging, even when it didn't always work. What we have at the moment is just "what if we churned out Doctor Who according to a formula with the bare minimum of effort".
>It's just gone shit in basically every aspect.
Of course everything is terrible. Look at 1976. Over two series Robert Holmes wrote 14 episodes that year: Brain of Morbius, Deadly Assassin, and Talons of Weng Chiang. He wrote three classic stories and time-wise about 2.5x as much content Chib wrote for series 11. Chib managed 5 or 6 eps and they were all fucking horrendous. Chibnall cannot write and he has people huffing his farts 24/7.
Reminder that Chibnall will announce his departure on September 28th
because they saw his fappening pics with Daisy Lowe
Rtd good
Ecclestone good
Tenant good
Moffat very very bad
Smith bad
As for current Doctor Who I can't sit through one episode without wincing
pleb
Reminder to pay respects to your best Doctor and era of the revived series.
Leaving the quality question out entirely, there is absolutely zero doubt that Tennant is the most popular and iconic modern Doctor Who and Baker is the same for the original run.
I don't understand how anyone can dispute this. You can certainly have the right to dispute that they sucked but Tennant's shadow looms over modern DW ten miles high, and before there even WAS a modern DW if you said "Doctor Who" anybody was picturing this guy
Just comparing these two trailers almost sums it up
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Absolute whiplash.
Lol Capaldi had no good episodes. And don't give me that "Heaven Sent le best" bollocks. It was a Moffatt Doctor speech extended over 50 minutes. Utter crap.
imagine being a capaldifag when his shit was the most SJW filled bullcrap ever produced.
Just look at this magnificent bastard, he just doesnt give a fuck. Thats why we loved him
I like Capaldi as the doctor a lot but his seasons have the worst writing in the modern series by far.
nice bait m8 good thing we all know heaven sent is an intricate masterclass in television
It's like if people are having the Kirk/Picard argument and then some mong lumbers in and says "Objectively, Archer was the most popular and iconic captain"
you are a sad pleb leading a sad life. moffat era is patrician tier.
Don't even mention the performance, the editing, production design or the music then. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
Series 8 and 9 are literally the most sophisticated NuWho ever got. Only Series 1 is even anywhere near as dense and ambitious.
>moffat era
>patrician tier
Imagine being this much of a pleb
Yeah if you haven't watched television before. It's bog standard Moffatt constant "le quirky" yap. It's the biggest pseud episode I can think of.
The Capaldi series' are kino. Of course most normies don't appreciate it - that's how Doctor Who should be. If you were pleb filtered, you weren't paying attention to its themes. Doctor Who at its most emotionally intelligent.
Holy fuck how did I forgot this series happened my brain wiped this from my memory till I saw this post still a little cute
First one gave me goose bumps.
Second made me think the show was now going to be broadcast on the Hallmark Channel.
lol, nobody takes you seriously, you have an utterly shitty taste user. enjoy your stay in r/television with your moffat hating buddies.
Oh shit. Moffatt rimlickers in the house. Capaldi is a great actor but Doctor Who, especially the shite Moffatt got him to say, was just not for him.
>the editing, production design or the music then
You're talking like any of that was at all memorable.
you sound like you were looking at your phone during it and spent the entire diamond wall sequence wondering what was going on
here's your (you) pleb. keep seething
based Capaldifag with actual taste
reminder that the NPC criticisms of the Chadpaldi era are as follows
>"the acting was good but the writing was shit"
>muh Doctor Clara
>muh Danny Splink
>muh ugly thick black woman
>muh nardole
>muh maisie
>acting was good but acting was shit
>it's not like how it was before
>muh SJW while forgetting that fucking RTD (writer of BBC's Years and Years) was the main writer for years
>something about failed interconnected narrative
>muh female master
>the stories are slow and character-focused so they're boring, where's my running 'round corridors?
>acting GOOD writing BAD
>how did I forgot this series happened
It's a common phenomenon.
I envy you desu. I wish I could forget.
People say I look like him. Is this bad?
>be the inarguably best writer in the show's 55+ year history
>random user shit-talks you.
Reminder that 5 and 13 are the worst doctors by a considerable margin
Imagine thinking this edge-tastic nonsense is emotionally intelligent or sophisticated
It's honestly one of the most forgettable series of Doctor Who. No one remembers anything besides the retarded moments or the episode with the frog and the episode with the indians (the only good ones, Kerblamfags need not apply)
it's okay user, you don't have to keep posting in fast succession to prove your point, everybody here knows you are a fag with shitty taste. go spend time in your capeshit threads, capaldi era is too cerebral for you.
13 makes 5 look like 7.
APOLOGISE
absolutely based
FUCK kerblam
It's not as smart as you think it is retard. You'll keep ignoring the fact that the writing in that episode is the same shit we'd been feed for years by that point though.
>Best writer in the shows history
>mfw
Try and watch some actually good stories before you spew that bollocks
if you think this is le quirky yap you have no soul youtube.com
>capaldifags still seething to this day about how shit it is and trying to justify their terribly written doctor
It's ok anons, you may not have appreciated the Capaldi era while it was airing but now the show is dead you have all the time in the world. I forgive you. Doctor Who is fleeting, but kino is forever.
BASED HOLY SHIT
FUCK CHIBNALL
He is the only writer with three sole stories in top 10 in Doctor Who Magazines' poll for the 50th year and that was even before Heaven Sent lmao. Facts don't care about your feelings. Moffat is INARGUABLY the greatest writer for the show. You can't even argue against it.
Based user.
This reminds me of the end of shitty American comedy films when there's some really emotional scene to trick you into thinking what you've just watched wasn't complete horseshit.
The silhouetes in the golden light, the maze-like castle, the singular Murray Gold score, the Doctor's Sisyphean struggle, representing the philosophy of the character in-universe and meta-textually, all melded in unity in a tight 45 minute one-hander... yeah, I'm thinking it's kino.
Yes. You are ugly as sin.
Imagine being Jodie Whittaker and having to be all like "damn, Chris Chibnall, you're such a good writer. I'd totally watch your show with your barely present characters and lazy plot contrivances" when all she really wanted to do was hang out with the cast and fuck david tennant. Like seriously imagine having to be Jodie and not only stand in that set while Chris Chibnall flaunts his disgusting toupée at you, the favorable crew barely hiding their disdain and disgust, and just stay there, take after take, hour after hour, while he asks you to perfect your shitty lines. Not only having to tolerate his monstrous fucking incompetence but his haughty attitude as everyone on set tells him he's A GENIUS and DAMN, CHRIS CHIBNALL WROTE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to stand there and spout the most basic, robotic one-dimensional lines you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been having nothing but a healthy diet of family dramas and indie darlings your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the basic-bitch theaters in England. You've never even seen anything this fucking hackneyed before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on his balding hair as he sucks it in to pretend to be Mr Showrunner, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to stand there and act-out his "innovative" (for that is what he calls it) writing, the writing he worked so hard for in the entire previous year. And then the director calls for another take, and you know you could end your life before the studio security could stop you, but you stand there and endure, because you're the fucking Doctor. You're not going to disappoint the kids over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
FUCKING
APPLE
BOBBING
>He is the only writer with three sole stories in top 10 in Doctor Who Magazines' poll for the 50th year
But one of them was Day of the Doctor, one of the biggest piles of shit in DW history. That list is hardly a benchmark for good taste.
it wasn't the end of the episode, it's literally the emotional throughline of the entire series. the scene serves to contextualise his actions later in the story. the whole thing is about grief and his symbiotic relationship with clara, it's not just quirky science man running around a castle.
such a god tier actor and he got so many god tier scenes, it's such a laugh that people say he was "wasted" when we got a version of the show that literally would have been impossible to do without an actor of his caliber (and coleman's, gomez's, mackie's too)
You think Heaven Sent is yap user, you are the golden benchmark for shit tier taste.
writing in doctor who in general is just trash with few exceptions.
Doctor Who will never be as good again.
this
Lazy retards spout "muh writing" but S8-S10 is some of the best Doctor Who ever.
Best directors to have ever filmed the show. Not even memeing DW has never looked this good, even Chibnall's fucking it up here.
Best actors it ever had.
Murray Gold at his most inspired.
Best set, best costumes, best technical everything.
Arguably even the best writing the show's ever had
Basically, everyone worked their best to give the best they could give. And the result is amazing
>the scene serves to contextualise his actions later in the story. the whole thing is about grief and his symbiotic relationship with clara
I know what it was meant to be about, retard. Just listen to how melodramatic it sounds, not helped by Murray Gold who had gone completely off the rails by this point. "Oh my god, Clara, I miss you so much" even though not once has the audience ever cared about Clara or her sterile relationship with the Doctor. It's so forced.
how the fuck Moffat managed to cast the absolute best actors for the Doctor three times in succession? Each time better than the last.
The idea of the war doctor is unbelievably retarded and a beyond obvious asspull.
It's okay user, anyone who thinks Capaldi was 'brought down by muh writing' has no idea what they are watching. They wouldn't know what kino is if it hit them in the face.
In Moff's defense it was supposed to be based Eccleston but he didn't want it.
He could have made McGann but I'm kinda glad the 8th Doctor wasn't corrupted to be the NUCLEAR Doctor that le killed billions
Come on lads the shit of the Chibnall era should bring us closer together, not further apart.
Doctor Who 1963-2017 is a show full of blessed moments.
He wrote some good singular episodes when working for someone else, but his time as showrunner was poorly formed. He needed an editor willing to tell him "no". Also Holmes was a better writer with far more consistency and throughput.
It's coz the threesome of Eleven / Amy / Rory is the most comfy the show has ever been. Shame the plot of season 6 was so fucking convoluted and nonsensical, but individual episodes like A Good Man Goes to War, The Girl Who Waited, The Doctor's Wife, The God Complex, Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, The Power of Three, A Christmas Carol etc. are peak who.
Let it go Chibs, you don't have to keep shit-talking your predecessor to hide what an utter shit you've brought before us.
why the fuck were the time lords written out of the show to begin with
>Best actors it ever had.
I don't know how anyone can argue this. You can not have watched classic Who if you think Capaldi's performance is better than Baker's, Pertwee's or Troughton's, let alone nu-Who Eccleston. And the companions are only surpassed in their awfulness by the 80s ones and the series 11 ones.
Have you two blocked Jodie Whittaker from your minds? The "who's the worst doctor?" debate is over; it's practically a fact that Jodie is the worst.
except he wrote his best episode while he was showrunning. you can't possibly think his stories in the first four seasons are better than heaven sent or world enough and time and not be called vegetable.
Then he shouldn't have done it. Sometimes not doing something is better than having done something and failed, especially on a project like Doctor Who which has a life of its own and shouldn't serve to cater to the ego of the current producer/writer who is on temporarily in charge for a year or three.
I wasn't counting her.
True. And I didn't even mind a female Doctor, Gomez practically brought the best performance as the Master so it's clearly not about the gender. It's just that Jodie has been mediocre at best. And no, it has nothing to do with writing, she just doesn't have it as the Doctor. Bradley Walsh basically steals every scene from her and he is not even doing it intentionally.
>those eps
>peak who
Christmas Carol was the first time I'd got up and walked away from the TV watching Who it was so boring
A Christmas Carol is not only the best Christmas special but also one of the best Doctor Who episodes of all time and one of the best adaptations of Dicken's story as well. It captures every thematic depth of its 'inspiration' and maxes it up to 11. The art direction is wonderful and anyone who has studied film history would see the clear allusions to the early Gothic genre. It is a masterclass in filmmaking and the fact that you found it boring speaks more about you than the episode.
love me RTD
love me Moffat
'ate Chibnall
simple as
It is the only good Christmas episode since the first. And again, i said COMFIEST. Not necessarily the best in terms of objective writing quality. That would be Blink and Heaven Sent and them a vast chasm between them and third place.
I swear to God the writers of his series hated him
>clear allusions to the early Gothic genre
You don't say. Fuck off pseud
he is the only doctor who actively contributed to the writing of his own series, you have no idea what you are talking about. he is the luckiest doctor to be cast in the greatest era of the show.
I stopped watching when Capaldi became doctor, so I never saw those episodes. I gave Moffat three years of Smith's run to do something. In that time we got River Song, one of the most annoying companions of all time and overarching plots that don't work.
Blink and Girl in the Fireplace were great (for RTD's time), not disputing Moffat didn't write individual episodes well, but being showrunner is more than just cranking one one really good episode, you need to make sure the whole season gels, and his seasons were all build up and unsatisfactory resolution.
it's too smart of an episode for you user, let it go.
>Doctor says/does something
>"No fuck you Doctor, you're wrong"
>repeat for the entire run
Really makes me enjoy the series
Then you really have no idea what you are talking about. It's an established fact that S8-10 is the best era of the revival show and one of the better times in Doctor Who history.
Rose Tyler and Martha are the only two companions that ever worked for me
true norf.
Capaldi could have been great in the right hands, instead we got the dad-rocker. Moffatt was a twat
I'm pretty sure that the BARTY CROUCH.................... JUNIOR!!!! doctor is still the most popular with normies.
yes one of the best writers, but also one of the worst producers the show ever had.
>It's an established fact that S8-10 is the best era of the revival show and one of the better times in Doctor Who history.
Only by Moffatt scrotum-lickers like you. Where is this consensus you're getting this statement from? Are these on super secret circlejerking forums?
MUH WOSE is shit but Rose can be fun, yeah. She was a legit character in S1, too.
Martha is characterkino because she told the Doctor to fuck off at the end.
Donna is based buddy-cop who.
I hate you zoomers so god damned much.
the blossoming rtdchad and moffchad pact
Average out episode scores in GallifreyBase if you care, you'll see I'm right. Or check out DoctorWhoTV's series scores, You have a shit tier taste that does not represent the majority of the fanbase. You should really stop talking about this show actually, it's clearly not for you.
makes teen tumblr girls wet unironically
go back to pleddit pal, moffat's writing is too much for you.
all the fuss about a female doctor and it turns out she's the most bland incarnation.
>GallifreyBase
And there it is. Fart-huff central. I thought I was going mad there for a second but now I know I can disregard everything you've said as circlejerk groupthink
No surprise there, really.
Robert 'Sutekh the destroyer' Holmes vs Steven 'The Power of Love' Moffatt. Hmmmmmm thats a tricky one.
Moffat is awkward for me. He's a very talented writer but I didn't care for the directions he went. mainly he tried to be too ''clever''.
Daily reminder he will always be the greatest
based
he is the definitive classic doctor
What episode did Moffat write that got solved by the power of love other than that Narnia parody one and Death in Heaven? Out of a gazillion stories he has written, only two of them use that trope.
Gallifrey Base? What dont those bootlickers give 10/10 to?
Have you seen what's written about Series 11? There are some people who like it but the overall majority is quite bitter.
The WW2 Dalek episode for one.....
Based Troughtonite
I'm more of a Hartnellad myself, but Pat is based.
Moffat didn't write that one you dipshit.
I used sperg otu about the war doctor. I've mellowed out about him but I'm stil lnot thrilled with the idea.
I also didn't care for the change to the ending of the time war.
Eccleston is easily the best NuWho Doctor, even though Tennant is an equally brilliant actor.
>Written by Mark Gaypiss
>inb4 he's showrunner so he's literally responsible for every creative decision in every story under his era
Also The Lodger.
For me it's all of the casual murder and genocide.
Tennant's Doctor, with only a couple of exceptions, was way too soft.
if his stories were intact and repeated he would be considered the best (if not for T.Baker unfortunately). I also liked how 7 was a 'sequel' to this version.
He picked the script and edited it tho......
what the fuck mate christmas carol is absolutely GOAT and one of the comfiest episodes ever created, it is pure xmas magic
storyline, music, direction, production design, all firing on all cylinders
Yeah but imagine if his seasons were done by a competent writer
Pic related is best inspector
I only watched those seasons for Gillian not for him or for Dr who
Dr Who is dead.