>Pokemon is the most profitable franchise in history
>Great trailers and promotion
>Yea Forums experts say it will make a billion, at least
>Movie turns out to be second biggest flop of the year after Hellboy
Were you there when the strength of the Pokemon failed?
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>profitable franchise
Yes, for video games and children's toys.
They got what they deserved for casting Ryan Reynolds as Detective Deadpoolchu.
still haven't seen it because of this mutt.
Name at least 3 (three) Ryan Reynolds movies that weren't box-office failures
>Movie turns out to be second biggest flop of the year after Hellboy
that's not true
Alita was the second biggest flop after Hellboy
This was the reason i didnt go see it, this goblino just feels too forced
Same
This mutts shit acting ruined the movie.
Pokémon Go was already when the franchise first failed big time.
Yea Forums, are you STILL mad about this? I mean I know that she was your waifu, but gotta let it go, man
Yet made more money that DP and Shazam!
Alita will be profitable from digital and Blu-ray sales.
Pokemon Go! Didn’t fail
Incels will always blame blacks but it didn’t stop black panther from breaking $1 billion
Disney paid for those poor communities tickets.
this thread is PATHETIC. I cant believe I share this board with such whiny losers. cringe and have sex. I will be praying for you sick bastards
DILATE QUEER
>Alita: Battle Angel
>box office: $404.8 million
>Pokemon Detective Pikachu
>box office: $363.9 million
Lmao, some anime that no one has ever heard of beat Pokemon. Pokecucks on suicide watch.
Daily reminder that Goose's hot daughter will get RICED by a fat asian nerd in new Spider-man movie
blacks and anti whites went in droves specially because its non white cast,white redditors watched because of muhh mcu blacks dont give a shit about pokemon, if it was Dragon ball probally
>flop
>Budget $150 million
>Box office $363.9 million
oh my, I hope that extended 63.9 millions in their pockets is not a sever psychic trauma
At least he didn't do his gay screaming the whole time
The nostalgia audience wanted a regular Pokémon movie. Ash and Misty and Brock and all that. Not a talking animal movie with Deadpool’s voice.
>first time in the apartment
>pikachu makes a reference to the french
>pic related
>second time in the apartment
>your not going to turn me into a lamp shade are you?
What did they mean by this?
Black Panther had nig nogging in Africa and fighting each other. It wasn't as much anti-white as it was anti-american and that isn't something that bothers me.
He unironically made the movie better by being a bland stand-in.
>>your
so they should adapt ruby sapphire and make it about the protagonist duelling his father at his gym
the actors in black panther were good-looking
name two
>he doesn't know that the studio doesn't get every penny of the box office
They have to split the profits with the theaters, you retard. Plus there are studio expectations; when a studio spends this kind of money they want to bring in HUNDREDS of millions of dollars in profit. There's no doubt that Warner Bros. is deeply disappointed.
dammit
But Black Panther wasn't a blackwashing film, it was about a comic book character who was black to begin with.
>Lmao, some anime that no one has ever heard of
Not true, I watched the Alita OAV way back in the day. My childhood right there.
Nobody cares about anything besides marvel
You know what I mean; normies have no idea what Alita is, whereas EVERYONE knows about Pokemon. This is an embarrassing defeat for Pokemon Detective Pikachu.
Desperate pathetic cope
Are you blind, retard? Haven't you noticed that I said 64 but not 214? Did you know what does the "flop" mean?
The movie failed because the premise was shit. They should have done something involving the Pokemon League, the trainer battles are where Pokemon's bread gets buttered.
show me your black panther blu ray
yep
I refuse to support any ugly niggers in leading roles
get your ugly fucking nogs out of my anime adaptations, that goes for you too Death Note
What the fuck were they even thinking?
this movie is no different than the sonic movie
It flopped because its a fucking stupid movie that had no reason to exist
Adonis Creed
Martin Freeman in that DILF-y sort of way
Sebastian Stan and uh
>How do we capture the white, black and asian demographics?
>Let's just find a mutt who has characteristics of all of them
>The movie failed because the premise was shit. They should have done something involving the Pokemon League, the trainer battles
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that's the premise the entire franchise is built on so I dont see how you couldnt make it work as a film
>nobody has mentioned the real reason yet
It premiered 2 weeks after endgame
seemed like giving the girl a psyduck was to make her some kind of Misty stand-in, which might have been a sore spot for certain waifufags
Nobody watches sports movies anymore, it would have flopped even harder than it already did, plus even if it was about Pokemon tournament it would still have to include some sort of human antagonist with some secret evil plan anyway, Detective Pikachu just skipped boring tournament part and focused on the inevitable conspiracy
Did you not read my post? Here, I'll break things down; the studio probably spent about as much on marketing as they did on the production, so we're looking at a cost of around $300 million. That leaves them $63.9 million in profit, which is the conclusion you came to; however, the studio has to split that $63.9 million with the theaters. So the profit for the studio is probably lower than what you guessed, and there's one other factor that you're forgetting to take into account; the studio's expectations. As I said, no studio spends this much money and is satisfied with making tens of millions of dollars. They expect to bring in HUNDREDS of millions of dollars. So you're right that the movie isn't a flop, but it's an underperformer.
the basic plot of every pokemon game is running around using your pokemon to beat up other peoples pokemon until the crazy Team Rocket terrorists try to harness the power of a god pokemon to rule the world, so you use your pokemon to beat up them and their pokemon and claim god's power for yourself
Is that supposed to be a pikachu?
>the studio probably spent about as much on marketing as they did on the production
>so we're looking at a cost of around $300 million
>source of data: my ass
Fucking flop was great...weebs btfo
Weebs BTFO by capeshit.
Fat Lasses...yeah lasses, you bitches.
Alita unironically was more successful than Shitzam and Pikachu
insecure white cuck
I've never was into the pokeman craze if I ever did get into it would be just be another fun jrpg to me
This man is right, before it came out everyone expected Alita to be Mortal Engines-tier flop, but it eventually broke even, meanwhile Pikachu and Shazam performed way below expectations
hollywoodreporter.com
>the $100 million prints-and-advertising spend in North America. And multiple sources say studios now are shelling out an additional $100 million per movie to market this summer's big tentpoles internationally.
>Indeed, with the exception of in China, Hollywood continues to wrestle with rising marketing costs, particularly overseas, which can make up 70 percent of a film's gross thanks to booming markets in Russia, Latin America and Asia. Two years ago, the cost had crept up to $175 million globally. Now, studios say it has hit the $200 million mark per picture
By the way, that article is 5 years old, so marketing prices have probably increased since then. So it's safe to assume that Pokemon Detective Pikachu spent well over $100 million on marketing. And here's a more recent article that proves my point:
variety.com
>for a studio tentpole release, P&A can reach in excess of $150 million.
Pikachu also hat 10x the amount of advertising and presence in media than Alita on top of being the better known brand, yet it still didn't make more.
>Alita is break even
How do you know that? Can you give me source
>what is budget
>what is only making money in China where they only get 25% of the box office
fucking idiots
It needed 500 million to break even
Shazam broke even and made an additional 100 million
Pokemans wish they had that China money too, huh?
>>what is budget
Alita's budget is only $20 million more than Pokemon Detective Flopachu.
>>what is only making money in China where they only get 25% of the box office
It's still fucking embarrassing that Pokemon Detective Flopachu made less than $400 million at the worldwide box office.
>however, the studio has to split that $63.9 million with the theaters
They don't split profits, they split box office revenue. And its around 50-60% in favor of the studio but far less for the international market, especially in countries like China. So just divide the box office by 2 for a rough estimate, add 100-200 million dollars to the budget for marketing and you'll get a loss at something like 68-168 million dollars. The movie will still make money however since there's the rental and streaming market.
fpbp
Even as someone who disliked it for having a nigger lead, I am actually surprised at how little it made with the Pokemon name alone.
I'm not saying Pikachu didn't flop, I'm saying Alita flopped harder
Pikachu is probably going to reach 400 million by the way, this weekend isn't even in yet
is it worth to watch the movie just to see fluffy
pikachu?
Alita
>50% domestic: 43 million
>40% overseas: 74 million
>25% China: 33 million
TOTAL: 150 million
(-) 170 million budget
= -20 million
Detective Pikachu (so far)
>50% domestic: 63 million
>40% overseas: 62 million
>25% China: 21 million
TOTAL: 146 million
(-) 150 million budget
= -4 million
Shazam
>50% domestic: 69 million
>40% overseas: 72 million
>25% China: 11 million
TOTAL: 152 million
(-) 100 million budget
= 52 million
they didn't show his fluffy pika-balls though
You're still not adding in the marketing for these movies. They are all well into the red.
not Shazam
No, boring ass movie, not enough Pokémon powers or action
>Pokefags SEETHING over Alita
Honestly didn’t expect this
The entire idea is confusing.
A true Pokemon movie that sets up a franchise would bring in big bucks, but having this be a "detective" movie right from the get go sounds like some side project to just test the waters.
When handling a gigantic franchise like this with mountains of potential you name the movie "Pokemon" and you make sure it goes through all the typical pokemon motions, not turn it into some meme quip fest with a genre theme. It's just stupid.
Reason No.1 it failed
>incels
Is this
Its a classic case of "Who was this movie for".
He just wasn't an interesting character to me. Pokemon cannot carry the movie by itself. I think if the MC is some sort of sheltered kid genius who gets involved in the world of pokemon through pikachu and has to learn all this shit, it's interesting more yes
okay :cc
so Doraemon?
Pokemon as a popular brand has died long ago, people misinterpreted Pokemon Go's success and treated it as Pokemon revival, but it only was popular because zoomers liked the idea of catching something in the real world using their iphones, if it was called Digimon Go or Persona Go end result would be the same
Never seen that. I'm just saying the pokemon universe is a ripe setting for all sorts of adventures, but they have to actual utilize it by putting actually compelling stories into it.
For example: Mystery Dungeon and Pokemon Ranger. The Orange Islands season. Pokemon Snap. When they ditch predictable shit it turns out great.
Isn't sword and shield being hyped because of all the hyped predictable predictions and UK setting it has?
Virgin Detective movie vs Chad First movie
Should have just added ASH, a cute while male, one of those stranger things kids everyone loves, not this unknown Zendaya male. This man is the reason I didn't go see it too. And we didn't need a talking Pikachu, the first season of the anime series was good, introduce a handful of pokemons so people get excited about a possible sequel and more pokemons, gyms. people want to see cute pikachu, charmander moments, it's basically a loyal dog and his owner, not ryan reynolds as a detective 0 points for me
>implying a brand like Pokemon has the same level of brand recognition as Digimon or Persona
You're completely out of touch with reality.
I haven't seen any real hype for sword and shield. Sun and Moon went off format or at least pretended it did, but it was the same basic thing.
uuh meow?
I guess pokemon works best when its the same shit over and over like a pikachu in a happy meal over and over, I guess children and life long fans want the same shit over and over and over again.
I am saying Pokemon Go became popular due to great idea behind it and not Pokemon license, Detective Pikachu shows that Pokemon name alone means nothing
If by works best you mean sells to children and autists then yes. I'm not talking about sales though I mean in regard to quality.
>I mean in regard to quality.
Film should never have been made
Yes this is what I said
*Laughs in Dragon ball super*
I dunno why they made Pokemon movie with barely any Pokemon in it, well Pikachu is technically one, but he acts completely human so you keep forgetting that, this entire movie would have worked much better as spin-off to a main series like the game it's based on was, not something that is supposed to start a franchise
Oof. Yeah buddy you forgot marketing costs and that the studio only gets 1/3 to 1/2 of ticket sale revenues. I hope you're never responsible for anything involving numbers greater than 10.
No idea why it didn't work out, it was a good movie, I wanted to see it, went to see it and enjoyed it.
I guess nothing works except capeshit nowadays?
Why can't they just let these Pokémon shit die in peace?
Same, I loved it. I almost want to see it again now just to give it my economic vote of confidence.
DBS was super succesful retard.
Remember how local spic goverments streamed the episodes in public arenas
>No idea why it didn't work out,
>>Yea Forums experts
Is it really flopping though? It’s doing really well for a video game movie
Has Yea Forums EVER been right about anything?
It's going to be top of the video game heap critically and commercially at the end of it's run. But being the top of the video game adaptations isn't really that great since they're 90% failures
recommend five video games your grandmother could enjoy
no, it was popular because of nostalgia
Super Mario
Super Mario 2
Mega Man
Mega Man 2
And her favorite was Ducktales
Animal crossing
Starsew valley
The sims
Minecraft
Portal
Im not into Pokemon anymore but I generally speaking think if they adapted the story everyone knows, which is the first Pokemon game, season of the anime, or weird combination of both, with a tone like the mcu but not copying the grounded in reality aesthetic, it might have made a lot more people want to see it. I get why they decided on Detective Pikachu, like on paper it should appeal to more people, introduce the idea of a "pokemon world" and kickstart a franchise of some kind, but the error in their thinking was this approach at all. My theory is proved by the mutt they cast as if he is supposed to appeal to all of America but not ugly enough to disgust chinese and japanese people. Very stupid thinking, China should have been ALL OVER this shit.
From what I hear this was just a gay detective movie about some kid and Pikachu finding his dad this did not even need to be a pokemon movie from what I can tell
Fuck are those figures my guy!?
There were already AR games before Pokemon GO. Persona Go would go unnoticed.
C O P E
>Video games arent good films
>Pokemon is for kids, and teens, and nostalgia.
>the story is garbage just like with transformers it was designed to sell toys and shit.
>forced diversity nog
Probably was Nintendo’s way of testing the waters before going for a full fledged Pokémon movie
Transformers had an excellent nigg.
It's honestly a very good movie. Nothing spectacular, but it makes you feel good watching it.
citation needed. Where you get the source that this film bombed?
Aladdin came out.
godzilla, shazam, and alita all had white leads why did they flop?
Shazam got killed by the Endgame tickets going on sale a few days before it released. The others were just shit films
>godzilla
kaiju
>shazam
shalom
>alita
illegal alien
>Hellboy
i fucking forgot Hellboy came out!
>>Movie turns out to be second biggest flop of the year after Hellboy
It's not even the biggest flop from WB this year
This movie got me cancer.
so did everyone else
same and I'm a huge Pokemon fanboy. Fuck niggers and fuck hollywood with this interracial bullshit. Fucking jews.
I dunno but I want an Artemis fowl movie
Ingress was Pokemon Gos immediate predecessor from Niantic and had been out for 3 years before Go. In many ways it was a more polished and better game It was averaging 3k downloads a week when Go released and got over 30 million downloads in 3 weeks.
Licensing exists for a goddamn reason.
Deadpool
Deadpool 2
Uhhh
Why aren't they including the foreign total?
Disney is making one. It's shit!
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I can't speak for anyone but myself. Would have seen it, but the following conditions dissuaded me from doing so:
> Piss ugly pokemon designs (except pikachu)
> Non-canon to games (I never liked the show as a kid for that reason)
> No Danny DeVito voice
> Main actors/actresses not attractive
The background details seemed to come from the heart of a pokemon fan.
his acting was pretty bad. ryan reynolds literally carries the movie
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boxofficemojo.com
>Finishing in second is WB's Detective Pikachu with an estimated $58 million. The adaptation of the 2016 video game of the same name, which itself was based on the popular Pokemon franchise, delivered what is now the largest opening weekend for a video game adaptation ever, topping 2001's Lara Croft Tomb Raider ($47.7m). Not only that, opening weekend audiences liked the film to the tune of an "A-" CinemaScore, which is only the sixth time a video game adaptation has scored anything higher than a "B". In fact, three of the previous "A-" CinemaScores went to WB's three previous Pokemon films and the other two "A-" scores went to Mortal Kombat and Rampage.
I AM SO GOD DAMN MAD
I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO MYSELF THE ENTIRE RIDE BACK FROM WORK
13 YEARS
THEY ANNOUNCED THE MOVIE 13 YEARS AGO
THEY WERE GIVEN 13 YEARS TO READ THE BOOK AND THEY DECIEDED TO FUCKING DISNEY CHANNEL A BOOK THAT EXSITED TO BE TEENS FIRST DARK HUMOR NOVEL
THE ENTIRE CONCEPT IS GRIMDARK GRITTY MAGICAL CREATURES LIVING IN AN UNDERGROUND HELL BECAUSE OF HUMANS AND THEY MADE IT A G-RATED HAPPY MOVIE
THEY FUCKING REPLACED THE DRUG-INDUCED SIEZURE THAT THE BOOK STARTS WITH WITH A SEXY ELF LADY FLYING AROUND
DID HARVEY WEINSTEIN HAVE HIS DICK OUT THE ENTIRE PLANNING MEETING
DID ANYONE READ THE FUCKING BOOK
THE BOOK ENDS WITH A FUCKING NUKE BEING LAUNCHED INTO A HOUSE TO KILL 2 KIDS, A BUTLER AND A MENTALLY DISABLED WIDOW
A TROLL THAT LOOKS LIKE THE FRONT HALF OF A WOOLY MAMMOTH FUCKED AN ORC GETS INTO A DEATH MATCH WITH A MAN IN MEDIEVAL ARMOR, GETS BEATEN TO DEATH, BUT NOT BEFORE STABBING HIM IN THE HEART WITH ITS CLAWS, WHO IS ONLY SAVED BY MAGIC
I AM 22 YEARS OLD
THE FIRST BOOK CAME OUT WHEN I WAS 5
I STARTED READING WHEN I WAS 7
THEY ANNOUNCED THE FILM WHEN I WAS 9
IT HAS BEEN 13 GODDAMN YEARS AND THEY GIVE US A SANITIZED SPIDERWICK CHRONICLES PART 2: LETS SELL TOYS TO KIDS
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY A MARKET FOR AN R RATED FANTASY FILM
ALL THE KIDS WHO GREW UP READING THIS DONT WANT A MOVIE FOR 5 YEAR OLDS
LOOK AT THE FUCKING TRAILER
WHY IS THE "EURASIAN" "THIRD BEST TRAINED IN MARTIAL ARTS" BUTLER A FAT BLACK GUY
WHERE IS HIS GUN WHY DOES HE HAVE A BOW
WHY IS BUTLER MAKING THE SURPRISED O-FACE I WOULD SEE IN A PBS KIDS SHOW HIS CHARCTER IS STOIC AND BROODING THATS IT
WHY IS HOLLY A LITTLE IRISH WHITE GIRL SHE IS A FULL-GROWN NUT-BROWN ELF
WHY IS ROOT A FUCKING WOMAN HIS ENTIRE BACKSTORY IS THAT HOLLY IS THE FIRST WOMAN AND HES WHIPPING HER INTO SHAPE TO PROVE WOMEN CAN JOIN THE FORCE BUTS HES A FATHER FIGURE SO HE CANT TELL HER HOW PROUD HE IS
THEY PUT THAT BRITISH BITCH IN TO PLAY M AGAIN IN A DIFFERENT SERIES AND PULL PARENTS IN
Exactly
Whoah dude.
This is why I don't read books hahaha
HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY GOING TO CONTINUE THE SERIES
ACCORDING TO TWITTER THE PLOT ISNT HIM STEALING GOLD TO PAY THE RUSSIAN MOB RANSOM ITS BECAUSE HE THINKS THE FAIRIES STOLE HIS DAD
THEYA RE LITERALLY REMOVING ALL THE CHARATCER DEVELOPMENT HE GOES THROUGH
HE WAS RAISED BY HIS FATHER, A MOB LEADER, TO PUT MONEY ABOVE ALL ELSE SO HE SAYS "I AM YOUNG ENOUGH TO BELIVE IN FAIRIES BUT OLD ENOUGH TO KIDNAP THEM" SO HES A COLD HEARTED GENIUS WHO HAS NO EQUAL AND DOES WHAT HE WANTS
THEY FIRST SCENE OF HIM CRACKING IS WHEN HE TRADES HALF THE GOLD FOR HIS MOTHERS HEALTH
THE SECOND BOOK STARTS WITH HIM BEING UNABLE TO NAME ANYONE HE CONSIDERS AN EQUAL, HE GOES THROUGH THE STORY WITH HOLLY AND THEN SMILES SAYING HE HAS
THE THIRD BOOK STARTS WITH HIM PROMISING ONE LAST HEIST, ONE THAT IS LITERALLY JUST HIM MAKING SUPERCOMPUTERS, BEFORE HE GIVES IT ALL UP AS HIS FATHER IS BACK AND BECOME A MORAL MAN HE TRADES HIS MEMORIES TO PROTECT HIS FRIENDS AND FAMILY
AND ALL OF THAT SHIT
ALL OF IT
IS OUT THE FUCKING WINDOW BECAUSE SOME EXEC THINKS KIDS ARENT GOING TO LIKE ARTEMIS UNLIKE THE MASSIVELY POPULAR BOOK SERIES ITS BASED ON
THEY RUINED ALEX RIDER
THEY RUINED MOCKINGJAY
THEY ARE GOING TO RUIN MORTAL INSTRUMENTS
THEY RUINED PERCY JACKSON
THEY ARE CURRENTLY RUINING MORTAL ENGINES
WHY CAN AN ENTIRE INDUSTRY NOT CARRY A FRACTION OF EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT FROM A BOOK TO A MOVIE
THERE ARE A MILLION HORRIFYING THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THIS SERIES AND THEY ARE GOING TO GUT EVERYTHING BECAUSE THEY THINK KIDS DON'T LIKE TO WATCH THE SAME STUFF THEY LIKE TO READ ABOUT
NOW THE DESCRIPTION FROM THE DIRECTOR SAYS "BOOKS 1 AND 2" THEY ARE GOING TO FUCKING RESCUE HIS DAD IN THIS ONE HUH
FUCK THE SNIPER SCENE IN THE SNOW WITH HUNDREDS OF MAFIA MEMBERS JUST BRING THEM HOME LOL
NUCLEAR TRAIN???? SOUND LAME
DONT GIVE HARD REBOOTS THE SAME TITLE
FUCK YOU ALL MY BOOKS ARE AT MY PARENTS HOUSE BOTH SERIES ARE TOP TIER BUT THEYRE FUCKING THIS ONE OVER TOO
So would you recommend reading the books? I've never heard of this IP at all. Thought Artemis was some digimon or cat from an anime.
they bet it with the ugliest mutt possible, they got it well served
godzilla hasn't flopped
Artemis Fowl was like the first and one of the few books I ever read and got fully invested in, they fucked up so badly. I'll never not be mad. This movie would have stood a chance if it came out 10 years ago but we're living in a PC clown world where they need to do this shit.
artemis fowl sucks dude lol
>Pokemon as a popular brand has died long ago
lolno. Even before Go, Pokemon was bigger than ever. Just because you don't hear about it in your personal bubble doesn't make it less true.
> No Danny DeVito voice
How to spot a r*dditer.
Reading them right now, on book. They're YA but they still tell a fun story. Basically Faries have an underground society. Artemis Fowl is a human 12 year old criminal mastermind genius, and kidnaps one in order to get fairy gold.
The rest of the series continues, telling of his adventures with fairy society, particularly one fairy in particular: a rookie cop, impulsive yet capable, Holly Short.
Itll be ok
detective pikachu's voice in the game was deep
No youre not
I'm a loud and proud genwunner and I've played every single core title, including all the revised editions (Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, etc.) I have a living dex and did some competitive battling during gens 4 and 5. Shut the fuck up faggot.