Would the Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs make for a good horror film? They're Ukranian serial killers wo made the imfamous "3 guys 1 hammer" video of one of their murders, which even most of /pol/ is afraid to even watch.
Who would direct hit, who would star, and what approach would it take?
People are fascinated by Ted Bundy and other movies bout serial killers, the Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs were the most vile and brutal killers I can think of, but no one knows about them.
Would their story make for a good film? If it ever is, it should focus on their insanity, arrest and trial and leave out the murder scenes (or keep them brief) out of respect for the victims.
3 guys 1 hammer literally scarred me for life. I want to puke any time I heat the Ukraine mentioned.
That said, in good hands it would make for a very good horror film.
Camden Watson
idris elba
Adam Cooper
>idris elba Black Washing only happens for good guys, user. The bad guys NEED to be white or it is oppression
Josiah White
>SNRRKKK >HYEEEEEEE >*laughs in ukranian in background* >SNNNRRRRRRRKKKK Good times.
Josiah Cox
Behaviour corresponds to facial make up Psychopaths look like psychopaths
Brandon Collins
anyone who looks as slavic as the guy on the right should just automatically be put in prison
Jeremiah Martin
is that the guy from Oasis?
Hudson Baker
what is the name of the haircut on that guy
Anthony Perez
Or we could just decide as a species to stop glorifying batshit crazy murderers. Then, in the future, whenever one of these time bombs goes off no one ever finds out their name or sees their face, its just into court and off to jail. If they didn't off themselves to avoid that fate.
Wyatt Hughes
too gruesome for me i'd rather watch a movie about the guy/guys in scandinavia that would install punji sticks below popular diving docks. what drives someone to do this? even if you're a sick fuck who enjoys watching people writhe in pain you aren't going to see the effects of what you did unless you installed a 24/7 camera nearby
If they made a movie about this shit then other people will commit similar crimes in hopes of getting the same media attention.
Samuel Morales
We already have shootings, how bad can it get?
Connor Lewis
the trial is actually fucked up because they tried every excuse in the book to make it draw out longer. they tried to argue that the videos were cgi'd to include their likenesses and everything. it also makes it seem likely that they were selling the snuff vids online, because that one vid did get leaked somehow and as far as we know it was recorded on a cell phone. also don't forget they recorded some of the other murders
Benjamin Cooper
Its' not really that interesting a story. Ted Bundy is an interesting story not just because of his murders but because of his seemingly normal appearance, relationships, and behavior that hid his psychotic nature from most people.
Just killing people does not make a good story. There usually has to be some other angle that you could build a story around. This is why a lot of serial killer horror movies suck. A guy kills people. Ok. Thats not enough.
Michael Edwards
the fucking heavy breathing from the guy holy shit i can't forget that sound
Xavier Ortiz
as long as there is money to be made in reporting about these things and glory to be had for the killers, it will never stop
Cooper Thompson
what the fuck is wrong with slavs?
Jack Russell
The thug from some eastern european shithole hair cut. Be careful when you see a guy with that hair cut because he is full of vodka and depression from having to living in his grey and cold former soviet bloc and got nothing to lose.
Josiah Morales
the drug cartel dudes chopping up that guy while that fucking song plays is worse for me
Connor Garcia
toolbox killers were worse, still wanna hear that tape that made a jury and courtroom sick
Jack Nelson
IIRC this photo is cropped. it's supposed to have some dead hung animal next to them
Christian James
this whole thing makes me sick and i fear that one day my loved ones could stumble upon this video
Dominic Brooks
Didn't these guys kill like over 20 people for very rich people for snuff and got light sentences?
Liam Price
A white cat is hanging there.
I think it was around 30-40. And yeah, apparently some rich guy offered a large sum for 50 snuff videos, but the guys also said they just wanted to have something to remember at old age.
Carson Young
Life imprisonment for Sayenko and Suprunyuk; nine years' imprisonment for Hanzha
James Sanders
They were poking a screwdriver through his eye and he was still trying to get it out after getting his face beaten to pulp and barely being conscious, it's amazing how the body will fight to stay alive.
Austin Smith
it was 21 victims
Dylan Richardson
Yeah the number I gave did sound wrong, haven't looked at that story in ages.
Jose Peterson
my favorite part is when they start stabbing him with the screwdriver
Jace Garcia
>Or we could just decide as a species to stop glorifying batshit crazy murderers
Then what would girls watch? Every girl I know loved Zac Efron in the Ted Bundy film.
you gorefags should check out the brazil prison riots stuff is gnarly
Easton Stewart
>We already have shootings, how bad can it get? They slowly bashed peoples' faces in with hammers while gouging their eyes out with screwdrivers. In one video, they kill a pregnant lady and cut her baby out while she is alive (this video is only able tobe seen by criminal justice students and has not been leakes, thankfully.)
I'd much rather just be shot. These guys were absolute sadists, but that's why a horror film about them could be great, but it has to be handled respectfully.
Brandon Baker
>the drug cartel dudes chopping up that guy while that fucking song plays is worse for me They are worse to watch, I agree, but the cartel kills rival cartel members. 3 guys 1 hammer was an attack on a guy who survived a bout with throat cancer and was just riding his bicycle to see his grandson when he was murdered.
The Ukranian guys are even more monstrous.
Brayden Baker
"The three suspects had attended school together,[21] and by age 14 found some common ground. "Me and Igor [Suprunyuk] were both afraid of heights, and we were afraid we'd be beaten up by bullies", Sayenko stated during questioning. Suprunyuk sought advice on getting rid of their fears, which led the boys to stand on a balcony of their 14th floor apartment for hours, hanging over the railing. This reportedly had a positive effect on their fear of heights.[3] Hanzha was reportedly the most squeamish of the three. He had a blood phobia, and even refused to bathe his kitten, afraid he might scald it. Suprunyuk suggested tackling the fears by torturing stray dogs. The boys captured dogs in a wooded area near their house, hanged them from trees, disemboweled them, and took pictures next to the corpses.[3] Prosecution evidence included many of these photos taken by the suspects while underage. Some photos show the boys drawing swastikas and other symbols with animal blood, and giving the Nazi salute.[3] In one photo, Suprunyuk poses sporting a toothbrush moustache, similar to Adolf Hitler's moustache. Suprunyuk was born on April 20, the same day as Hitler, and referred to this fact.[5][22] A long video showing the three torturing a white kitten was shown in court. It takes place in their garage. The suspects fashioned a cross from wooden boards and nailed the kitten to it, then shot at it with pistols, placing foam and glue in its mouth to muffle the kitten's noises." if they ever make a movie about it, it should be focused on their youths like the quote related and keep the murder to a minimum. i do believe that some cases should be never taken to film adaptations like this and the japanese concrete girl case
Brayden Allen
>IIRC this photo is cropped. it's supposed to have some dead hung animal next to them I personally cropped it because dead animals do not belong on Yea Forums, but yes, there is a dead animal hanging behind them.
Nathaniel Flores
literally the only good things to come out of Eastern Europe was Yulia Nova, Tchaikovsky, and the space race.
Joseph Watson
>scared of blood >bro just torture some dogs that'll fix you right up >it works
Robert Brown
Sometimes I look at people facial features and I can easily tell that they have demons inside them
Samuel Ward
reading about this shit gets me so fucking agitated. Something about just a couple of smarmy shit-eating kids committing the most inhumane acts imaginable for laughs makes my blood boil. The current slew of mass shootings gives me what I guess I'd describe as a deep empty sadness but this stuff just makes me see red for some reason.
David Parker
I feel you. I first saw "3 guys 1 Hammer" when it was posted on Yea Forums back in like 2008. I couldn't sleep well that night. At a party shortly after, my cousin ttalked about how he was forced by his boss (at an auto-repaair ahop) to watch it, and he started crying, and he is the toughest guy I know.
Elijah Collins
i remember someone showed me it at 18. i found it disturbing but i can't say it effected me. same with other gore stuff. 4 years later, just thinking about this stuff makes me feel depressed and ruins my day
Jordan Hall
Your an fucking faggot and kill you're self??
Aiden Bailey
>committing the most inhumane acts imaginable for laughs This is what Hitler was trying to prevent
Lucas Allen
There's one of those videos that actually made me feel good, the torture of "Little Vampire", some Mexican drug dealer who used to gladly torture his victims with drills and such. They tied his hands up behind his back and beat him with chains, iron pipes, wooden planks and stabbed him repeatedly in the back as he was squirming about helpless, like the many people he tortured himself. Something that really agitated me was the video of those Asian teens beating a small boy and burning him with cigarettes at some constuction site, IIRC they were also throwing rocks and killed him.
Tyler Lewis
Why are threads being made about these 2 dudes now, exactly with this pic? I saw threads like this on /pol/ and Yea Forums yesterday. What gives?
Nolan Cox
Some faggot podcaster must have brought it up somewhere.
Leo Carter
The most fucked up thing about them is this:
They recorded the murder, so we saw how horrific it was.
Ted Bundy also smashed girls' faces in with logs, but we never saw the pictures. Their video shows us what murder with a blunt-object is like.
Bundy probably did worse, it just wasn't taped, yet girls love him, especially since Zac Efrom played him. Has the world gone mad?
google "run the gauntlet 3 guys 1 hammer", click on first result.
Warning: the dude was innocent and a stand-up citizen, murdered by 2 fucktards. It is very hard to watch, I only link it because I don't think reality should be censored.
>run the gauntlet 3 guys 1 hammer btw, you have to google what is in the quotation marks without the quotation marks.
Hunter Robinson
>which even most of /pol/ is afraid to even watch.
kek i watched that shit on Yea Forums back in 2007 when half of /pol/'s userbase was still shitting their diapers
Aiden Phillips
Hanzha didn't actually kill anyone, he just helped them rob some people prior to the murders.
Brody Allen
its kinda funny that 'nice guy' meme exists considering how many murderers, rapists and downright evil men are popular with women
any of kind of strength or attention will get you more ass than being a boring but overall descent individual. How fucking dare you expect to exchange nicety with pussy, in a world where even gisgusting slobs like Avery have multiple flings beyond the walls. The supreme gentleman himself would be swimming in it from conjugal visits if he didnt an hero.
Zachary Cooper
There is way more interesting shit about Ted Bundy that you didn't mention. How he escaped from prison multiple times. How he helped the police in Washington catch the Green River Killer by telling them not to move the bodies they find because he knew they would come back to fuck the corpses like he used to. How he used a legal loophole he knew from law school to marry a woman during his trial. His mind-bendingly self-aware interview just minutes before his execution.
He's one of the most fascinating people of the modern era, second only to possibly Roman Polanski.
Ethan Gray
link to video?
Jacob Murphy
>self-aware Didn't he blame porno for making him rape and murder a bunch of girls? Doesn't seem very self-aware.
Nicholas Torres
I just re-watched it and it isn't even that bad. Yea they hit him in the head and basically blow his face off and then fuck with him for about 6 minutes. The quality is so bad it loses some of the shock factor. The vid of the cartel beheading some cop and then cutting open his sons chest and pulling out his beating heart was worse.
Josiah Walker
>kek i watched that shit on Yea Forums back in 2007 when half of /pol/'s userbase was still shitting their diapers Ahh, the golden years of Yea Forums. Yea Forums used to be the main moard, now it is reduced to a shitty sub-board to fap to Instagram pics of questionably-aged girls.
Not exactly. You should really read or watch the entire interview for yourself.
"Before we go any further, it is important to me that people ... believe what I’m saying, and to tell you that I’m not blaming pornography. I’m not saying it caused me to go out and do certain things. I take full responsibility for whatever I’ve done and all the things that I’ve done. That’s not the question here. The question ... and the issue is how this kind of literature contributed and helped mold and shape the kinds of violent behavior. Fueled ... Well, in the beginning, it fuels this kind of ... thought process. Then, at a certain time, it is instrumental in crystallizing it, making it into something which is ... almost a separate entity inside. And that points you at the verge, I was at the verge of acting out on this kind of fantasy. Now, I really want to understand that. You had gone about as far as you could go in your own fantasy life, with printed material, and you may ... or printed and, video or films ... Films... magazines ... whatever. ...and then there was the urge to take that little step, a big step over to a physical event.
It happened in stages, gradually, it doesn’t necessarily – not to me, at least – happened over anight. My experience with, I’d say, pornography, generally, but with pornography that deals on a violent level with sexuality, is that ... once you become addicted to it (and I look at this as a kind of addiction) like other kinds of addiction, you keep ... you keep looking for more potent, more explicit, more graphic kinds of material. Like an addiction, you keep craving something which is harder, harder, something which ... which ... gives you a greater sense of excitement, until you reach the point where the pornography only goes so far, you reach that jumping off point where you begin to wonder if... if maybe actually doing it will give you that which is just beyond reading about it and looking at it."
Jace Powell
I've seen all the ISIS shit, all the FUCKED UP cartel videos, those Danish chicks getting fucked up in Tunisia, the Chechens, and all the other classics, but I still can't bring myself to watch 3 guys 1 hammer. Something about it turns my stomach even more than the rest of that filth.
Aaron Robinson
>Dnepropetrovsk how the fuck do you even pronounce that? I don't want to sound like an idiot when I'm making conversation at parties
Austin Morales
Pornography is unironically a mind virus that a particular ethno-religious group uses to subvert Western Society and undermine the monogamous nuclear family. A man has as many masters as he has vices.
I mean its not good, but honestly the cartel videos are worse. The worst thing I've seen wasn't even a video, it was a transcript of the Toolbox killers raping and torturing a 16 year old girl to death. By the end she was begging them to kill her.
Probably not something you should read to be honest.
Carter Wright
>psychopath makes a self-serving excuse it wasn't self aware at all, just another attempt at manipulation. the man represented himself during trial and """cross-examined""" people by making them go over the details of the crimes in detail over and over again while he stared at them. always made sure to talk about the crimes in 3rd person like he was watching himself do them again. it wasn't porn, bundy was just fucking nuts. hundreds of millions of people watch porn and some are even addicted (which certainly isn't healthy) but crimes like this are still exceedingly rare compared to the availability of porn. if there is any correlation it is very weak.
Julian Morris
At least with the cartel videos you can kinda assure yourself that the person getting murdered was involved in some dark shit themselves. With 3 guys 1 hammer it's literally just some random guy who was unlucky enough to be fated to cross paths with them that day.
Zachary Jackson
>On 18 August 2009, the Supreme Court of Ukraine referred the case back to the Dnepropetrovsk regional court of appeal. The move was welcomed by Igor Sayenko, who stated that it was a step towards clearing his son's name.
Why were a disproportionate amount of serial killers based in California? Why did serial killers seem to take off around the same time as pornography? Pornography deals in fantasy and disassociation. Just because people watch porn and don't become violent criminals doesn't mean that some can. Not everyone who grows up poor commits crime but there is still a correlation.
Go read up on some serial killers. For example, RIchard Ramierez was shown pictures of his uncle raping and murdering women in Vietnam as a child. Being exposed to this material fuels their addiction. Look up how many modern killers have tons of violent porn. Look at how many women in the porn industry and brutalized, raped, and even killed by pornographers.
Stop denying what's right in front of you. Stop watching porn.
Hudson Hernandez
if you think about it porn was rampant back in the 60's and 70's and sexual related violence against white women also rose up. It's crazy that Jews can subvert an entire nation in a very short period of time.
Leo Young
>walks away scott free more NUKES
Julian Bennett
That's still the most fucked up case I've ever read
Yea that loud whining for several minutes as that poor old man was dying turned me into a different person. A 14-16 year old shouldn’t have access to the unfiltered internet, If I remember right that video was on here around 2008 or so. I’ve seen horrors since then but that was one of my first and probably the most brutal, save the occasional almost comical middle eastern/cartel murder.
Logan Ross
Not really. Plenty of those getting murdered in Cartel videos are cops who wouldn't take bribes.
To quote the masterpiece film Sicario:
"It's genius what they do, killing people so brutally. It makes people think that they must have done something to deserve that. It's genius what they do."
Lincoln Baker
jesus
Justin Wright
>Why were a disproportionate amount of serial killers based in California?
The main reason is there are a shitload of people there. It’s a huge state with multiple major cities. You could combine a dozen flyover states and not get close to the population of California.
Jace Ward
It must be one psycho and two betas, right? What the fuck are the chances that three people this equally insane find each other in school
Liam Cox
What's a fucked up murder/massacre that nobody really talks about?
For me it's the McDonalds Massacre in the early 80s
Henry Collins
The fucking Japanese. They don't kill often, but when they do, it is horrendous.
Oliver Sullivan
>transcript of the Toolbox killers raping and torturing a 16 year old girl to death don't fucking read it
Connor Moore
Clearly you don't know what the word "disproportionate" means. 10 percent of serial killers worldwide were in California. Why did they start popping up around the same time as hardcore porn? Why does almost every serial killer look at and/or make violent snuff porn?
Stop trying to deny the relationship between porn and violence dude. It's very obvious you have some issues.
Austin Walker
Why are white people so violent
Ethan Jackson
Look up the Roth decision of 1957. Pornography and obscenity was never considered a First Amendment issue until this decision set the precedent and ultimately opened the floodgates.
Oliver Taylor
>slavs >white
Jose Anderson
sick fucks can be cowards too. even if they couldn't bring themselves to bear witness i think they'd still get off on the fact that serious damage was done by them
nobody "stumbles" upon that video. i get you fearing your loved ones developing the urge to seek out these kinds of videos, but the mere fact that it's out there shouldn't concern you
Lincoln Carter
I dont mean this at all in an edgy way so Im not sure how to phrase this exactly but did you guys not know already before reading or watching these events that these types of things happen?
Owen Evans
>Yesssssss goy, watch as much porn as you can! >Soon you'll be nice and relaxed! >No more bad thoughts, just nice friendly and innocent porn!
Obviously we did. But it's entirely different to confront the reality of it through documented video evidence.
Matthew Campbell
We're whiter than the western Europe and USA. You are all just jealous and out yourselves as petty angry cucks))))
Leo Parker
Kids stumble upon this shit. They don't really know what they are in for. They show it to their friends without telling them what it is to shock them.
Everyone knows this stuff happens but seeing it or reading about it in graphic detail is very different. It's much harder to just leave in the back of your mind when its staring you right in the face. It's much more difficult to compartmentalize.
Cooper Evans
Literal evil. I'm glad I'm not a soulless pece of trash like these empty vessels. I'm thankful i have god in my life to have kept me intact through all this filth the internet has created.
In many ways the internet was a horrible mistake.
Kevin Wood
You're whiter because there is practically no sun over there.
He said that literally minutes before his execution. He had zero reason to lie and he was a genuinely helpful person after he got caught who helped the police catch other serial killers, like the Green River Killer.
Jacob Morgan
So you'd be a piece of shit like these murderers if you didn't have the Sky Daddy? Sounds like you're just as crazy as they are.
Jace Barnes
>forced by his boss (at an auto-repaair ahop) to watch it kek what the fuck
Carson Wright
Technology in general was a mistake. We just don't realize it yet because we haven't had a nuclear holocaust
...yet.
Zachary Green
(((Samuel Roth))) why the fuck I am not surprised anymore
Ayden Adams
true unless someone shows it or sends it to them
William Rodriguez
Even in religion is a lie, people who attend church are statistically happier, have more satisfied marriages, better children, and are WAY less likely to commit suicide than atheists.
You do realize that even if you know a placebo is a placebo, it still helps?
Caleb Wilson
He also had zero reason to tell the truth. He was a deluded serial killer, why would I or anyone else believe him? Just because he boasted about how he went about killing doesn't mean I should take him at his word.
Oliver Watson
not linking someone something on an anoymous board isn't censoring user
Sebastian Watson
>people who attend church are statistically happier, have more satisfied marriages, better children, and are WAY less likely to commit suicide than atheists. source?
Angel Brooks
Clearly you don’t know what that word means, retard. It’s not disproportionate if millions more people live there than in other states.
Show me an actual study that proves more serial killers per capita come from California. Until then, you’re just another /pol/ tard blaming Jews and porn for everything.
Jayden Campbell
I bet things are suddenly starting to make a lot more sense
yeah it's clear the one in the right of OPs pic was the ringleader psycho. the other 2 were most probably just so desentitised that they became sickos. but they are all psychos in the end
No but i wouldnt assume that some atheist redditor would ever understand what belief is like. If you weren't retarded you would realize i implied i was not permanently damaged by all of it, not that i would have been like them.
Dumb fucking athiest fag lol
Adam Butler
im not an abbo i dont huff petrol. surely theres another way bros
Again, I don't really believe God is real in a literal sense or even trust most of the Bible. But I still got to church every Sunday and I just feel good afterwards. Even when you know a placebo is a placebo it still works. Try it yourself.
Isaac Bailey
You don't even fully believe in it lol. You've just convinced yourself you have. You are lying to yourself.
Julian Cooper
you realise he was doing everything he could to delay his execution right? this includes elaborating on murders and manipulating people to hear what they want to hear. he was a master manipulator
Grayson Turner
>tips fedora
Lincoln Lee
>imagine behaving like this and still trying to convince others you're a virtuous christian
It's disproportionate when 10 percent of the WORLDWIDE serial killer population is in a state with 1/400th of the world population.
John Wood
there's nothing wrong with going to church to just enjoy the community and get in touch with spirituality. it's an integral part of the human experience imo but can easily be done alone via meditation or simply being in nature.
Jack Peterson
Never claimed virtue, only stated my faith.
Now imagine you being butt hurt by that lol
Thomas Powell
So why did he specifically say he didn't blame porn? He just realized it was an addiction that fueled his obsession with sex and violence. You seriously don't think violent porn can't awaken something in people? You realize the exact same thing happened with Richard Ramierez?
Jaxon Torres
You can't get the community aspects from being in nature or meditating alone, but you can get it from other places. I joined a rock climbing gym and I definitely get that community "high" from being there. It's pretty awesome.
Jayden Russell
This is one of the most commonly misquoted things ever. Ted Bundy said "pornography", but he wasn't referring to pornography like we see pornography today. What got Ted Bundy aroused was those old timey "woman in danger" stories like pic related or like those old Wonder Woman comics where she's tied up and about to die. He would read them and get aroused by a terrified woman facing death or getting strangled. THAT is what he was talking about fucking up his head, not watching people screwing.
He said those comics had a sexual allure to him because it sexualized a woman being harmed and endangered and it turned him on immensely to the point where reading the comics/pornography wasn't enough anymore and he had to go out and do it for real to get a thrill.
So referencing modern porn in relation to Ted Bundy is retarded. It's not what he was talking about.
Going to church requires you to buy into a lot of the other crap as well. If you're not a religious person you might have less in common with your average Church goer so the community thing only goes so far.
Gavin Taylor
Another example of the type of "pornography" Ted Bundy was talking about.
Modern porn is far more violent and insane. Go watch some Max Hardcore or Facial Abuse. Men beating women, causing them to cry and puke, have emotional breakdowns, and bask in their suffering. Controlling and degrading them, torturing them mentally and physically.
Oh and it's almost always Jews. Go figure.
Kevin Walker
if a, otherwise normal person could just be "awakened" into a sadist murderer so easily just by watching violent porn then we'd have considerably more of them running about. richard ramirez was regularly beaten by his father and grew up around constant violence. he was fucking mentored by his cousin who shot his own wife in the face while ramirez was present when he was a teenager.
but yea it the porn that did it.
Austin Kelly
This is classic Jewish pulpul argumentation. You're just playing with the definitions of words instead of addressing the heart of the problem. If anything, what Bundy is saying about pornography being dangerous and harmful is EVEN MORE relevant than it was when he said it, considering the fact that the pornography we see today is even more grotesque and vile than it was in his time.
Chase Ross
psychopathy is genetic, user it will never stop until we purge it
Sebastian Brooks
>Modern porn is far more violent and insane. It is not more violent than choking a woman to death or cutting her head off. You can argue it's abusive and unhealthy, but there is a difference in the material. The closest parallel would be sick fucks that like things like guro porn or things like that.
There is a difference between liking physical dominance, or even extreme physical dominance to the point of rape, and liking actual violence and harming and murdering of women that is arousing you and getting you off. Totally different interaction and motivation behind that kind of arousal.
Nathan Campbell
I never said they were an otherwise normal person. But the fact is serial killers were far more prevalent in the 70s and 80s after porn started taking off. And these days we have incel mass shooters who are fueled by the very same thing. Porn makes them desire women sexually despite them being totally unavailable to them and they take their anger and sexual frustration out on the world.
Go watch Taxi Driver dumbass.
Jeremiah Martin
Fuck every single one of you that says this is the most horrific shit they've seen. Get back to me when you gain a soul and watch the fucking BRICKED.com video.
Cooper Diaz
>This is classic Jewish pulpul argumentation. No, it's not. They're distinctly different classes of items. You claiming it's "pulpul" or some kind of jewish manipulation is just you being a fucking moron who doesn't want to deal with nuance. It's as dumb as me claiming that handguns are sniper rifles and then calling you a manipulative jew when you try to correct me because they're both guns.
Alexander Miller
I disagree. I think they are activating deeply related parts of the brain, stimulating primal urges toward dominance and violence. Causing women to breakdown, cry, feel fear and believe they may well be killed.
Plenty of pornographers go on to murder women, go read about Chico Wang for example. Plenty of porn chokes women until they nearly pass out, watch some Cody Lane shit. Porn is some of the most sick, violent shit in existence.
Cooper Evans
>but there is a difference in the material They're both still fucking awful you stupid kike. That's like saying there's a difference between jumping off a building and jumping off an even taller building.
Jose Martin
psychopaths they never felt fear in the first place and are lying to make you sympathetic for them
Oh that’s right, you’re a /pol/ incel who just saw them in some other post and is repeating it.
Wyatt Wright
Neither, think Hugo Boss and Volkswagons.
Luke Smith
>I disagree Well, too bad. You're fucking wrong. If you were right, rape and guro wouldn't be separate porn categories. They are. If they were rooted in the same thing, those two categories would have a ton of overlap, and they don't. People who like guro porn or the like are extremely rare and far more sick/violent people. Normie women and men fantasize about rape commonly and it's one of the most regular types of porn in existence where the line between rape and a woman loving it is the focal point.
You seem woefully undereducated on this subject and are approaching it with your feefees rather than an actual understanding.
Eli Thomas
I think the guy on the right is named Igor. I've always thought that was such a ghastly, evil-sounding name, and he has a face to match.
William Mitchell
>They're distinctly different classes of items They're both examples of obscenity
Ayden Brooks
>That's like saying there's a difference between jumping off a building and jumping off an even taller building. ...There is a difference between those two things you complete fucking idiot. Jesus. Guarantee you have a double digit IQ.
>arguing with a muh degeneracy /pol/nigger who probably has 30Gb of BLACKED porn on his hard drive guys pls
Bentley Powell
They are separate porn categories because sick fucks like you have very specific fetishes. It doesn't mean they don't activate similar parts of the brain.
The kind of rape women fantasize about is not the kind of shit Max Hardcore and Facial Abuse produce. Do most women fantasize about a woman genuinely sobbing, being verbally abused about her life, slapped the shit out of, throat fucked until they puke everywhere, and then choked nearly unconscious? Or do they just want to see a big guy overpower a woman who slightly resists him?
You're using a logical fallacy by resorting to ad hominem attacks calling everybody a bible thumping retard.
:^)
Levi Reed
That vid is babyfood compared to the evil that has been pumped outta Mexico in the last 5 years.
Landon Williams
Religious people are happier, have better marriages, better behaved children, and lower suicide rates.
Go kill yourself atheist faggot.
Andrew Powell
Pretty much this. Why people still argue with moral crusader NEETs is beyond me. They're always way more fucked up and secretly suicidal but act like internet Paladins or something.
>Although it doesn’t have the same proportion of serial killers per capita as some of the other states on the list
From your own website. How stupid are you
Isaac Powell
Why not use money from the box office to hire someone to take care of them, in a mafioso sense?
Cooper Collins
If you don't like it, you should leave
Thomas Rodriguez
that link does not support your position. it states that california has less serial killers per capita than the rest of the US, which supports the other user's point about california having a larger population. it says nothing about worldwide rates which would be suspect anyway considering the police reporting of many countries. the 1/5th number could be explained by a myriad of causes.
Brayden Moore
He's either referring to the vid of the couple driving where a random brick smashes through the windshield at high speed and kills the dude's wife who's sitting in the passenger seat, or the vid of the Russians who pick a fight with a random dude walking along with his wife and one of them hurls a brick at the guy's head and he drops dead and his wife freaks the fuck out
Both are bad but nothing compared to the cartel or hammer vids
Anthony Hernandez
What’s your discord senpai
Zachary James
>there are degrees of severity >but durrrr not past my own magical cutoff where everything is "sick fuck territory" >past that line, all porn is equally bad and it all has the same root desire and cause! You're a braindead fucking moron. Just because you're too intellectually lazy to differentiate between different types of "hard pornography" and how much risk the individual who enjoys them poses does not mean they are identical.
I'm done giving you my time. You're a legitimate moron.
Aaron Phillips
Is that the one with the brick crushes the moms head while on the highway road trip? if so, That shit is intense.
So you clearly have seen facial abuse and everything else you mentioned. How can we trust your morality? Are you one of those assholes obsessed with Mayli?
1/5 of all serial killings were in a state with less than 10 percent of the US population...
Eli Richardson
Yeah I'm sure retarded niggers that pop out babies left and right are super happy too. You're the equivalent of a cockroach. Too stupid to know any better.
>smashes through the windshield Seen it. It's nowhere near as bad when there isn't human cruelty involved. >one of them hurls a brick at the guy's head Haven't heard of that one but it can't be that bad if he didn't suffer for too long.
Thanks user
Caleb Moore
>retard doesn't even know what an ad hominem fallacy is Pro tip, retard: You can make fun of someone while arguing with them, and it doesn't mean ad hominem has been used. Ad hominem is an argument replacement method. Being derogatory itself is not ad hominem. Pea brained fucking loser.
Isaiah Allen
Shut the fuck up you filthy jewish pedo. You will not be spared in the coming race war.
Jack Sanchez
I hope you think about me the next time you jerk off to pornography. Who's your favorite adult film star?
I've read about it. I know what their stuff involves, I've seen documentaries on the stuff, like the Max Hardcore documentary and Girls Do Porn. I've read interviews of girls who have done abuse porn. But I haven't watched it because I'm not a Jewish pedo satanist like you.
Benjamin Walker
That one vid where the cartel niggers cuts the head off the dad infront of the kid then cuts the kids heart out was savage.
Colton Rogers
>Yulia Nova I'm still sad she never did a titfuck scene at least
Jaxon Phillips
Dostoevsky is pretty based
Justin Anderson
Why do basedboys love porn so much?
Leo Brown
Aww someone is upset he's a miserable jewish faggot who is gonna kill himself in a few years because he has no purpose or a virgin pure and religious girlfriend. How pathetic. I'm gonna go make Sally blow me again to remind myself how much of a "cockroach" I am lol.
James Cox
>those Danish chicks getting fucked up in Tunisia Where do you watch your gore? I haven't seen this one and a couple of others, mind sharing?
Jacob Walker
I don't watch pornography. I won't think of you 5 seconds after leaving this thread. I only remember people that make decent points, not reverse SJW retards that can't justify their retarded feelings.
Josiah Foster
Don't forget CP.
Lucas Turner
I don't know why I'm so hesitant to watch it. I've seen worse shit based on the written, detailed synopsis posted on a snuff forum. But there's something about youthful killers torturing an old man sadistically that unnerves me to no end.
Jonathan Bailey
>internet NEET moral crusader ranting about the importance of avoiding pornography >tries to prove "superiority" by claiming he will have some faceless whore(that doesn't actually exist) give him a blowjob Wow you sure showed me. Don't be too rough on poor Sally, now.
Kayden King
>I don't watch pornography Then why are you defending it? You're no different than an edgy Ayn Rand libertarian who thinks heroin should be legalized because people should be free to do whatever they want.
James King
I catch it all on here. The danish girls video was pretty popular on Yea Forums for a week or two.
Two Danish girls went on vacation to Tunisia and got nabbed by some amateur Islamist group who raped them before beheading them. The girls cry out for their mom as it's happening and it's really shitty to watch.
Robert Robinson
Aww someone can't even believe others can get laid. Maybe stop jacking off and go outside and join a gym or something? Actually on second thought, you'd probably just get kicked out for beating off to girls.
Jaxon King
I thought it was funny. I mean it's not nice, but if they can't avoid a shit skin country, they don't really deserve to live. And most snuff videos disturb me because most of the people in them don't deserve it.
Isaac Thomas
the tool box killer transcript is some real shit. never heard of them before. what the fuck. and one of the dudes had an IQ of 138.
Ian Collins
You definitely do watch porn you gross jewish faggot.
Xavier James
Facial Abuse is kino-tier porn. I love it.
Robert Ward
>Then why are you defending it? Point out where I "defended" it you idiot. I disproved and rejected the claim that aggressive and even physically abusive pornography was identical to pornography that depicted physical harm, torture, and murder and pointed out that the two categories have no overlapping interest despite your(or possibly someone identical to you in this thread) claims that the motivation and arousal for such material is from an identical place. It clearly isn't.
Not once have I promoted viewing pornography in this thread, I just don't approach it by going "hurrrrrr its all jewish sorcery! dem sex ting bad!!!" like you retards do.
Brayden Hernandez
Yaeh, I dunno what it is about this one in particular, but I've consistently refused to watch it, despite all the shit I've seen since. The fact that they really drag it out, as well as the sad story behind it (they basically ambushed a dude who took his bike to work through a detour rather than his car). These fuckers also killed pregnant women.
I think part of it is due to the fact that these were psychopathic killers who were in a society that possessed some level of decorum. I don't deny Ukraine's probably not the nicest place to live, but I imagine it's filled with very nice people and doesn't have an absurdly high murder rate unlike some shithole in the Middle-East or Africa, where the people are probably the problem. They were just bored, young men that felt the need to go out and kill strangers.
Kevin Morris
I don't, and I'm not jewish you mindless barking dog.
Josiah Mitchell
>no overlapping interest Come on, man. Nobody reading this believes you.
If it acts like a jew, it smells like a jew, has scales like a jew, and has a forked tongue like a jew, it's probably a jew.
Nolan Morgan
Then they're stupid. Go ahead and ask how many people that enjoy rough sex on the internet how many of them enjoy depictions of women being murdered, tortured, killed, whatever. There's none. That's why they're separate categories.
Because I have sexual interests and I know how they work. I know how kinks and porn categories work. There are very few porn categories that do contain significant overlap unless they're broad enough to encompass other fetishes.
No, the people that like rape and even harder rape are not the same people that get off to dismembering and killing people, you fucking idiot.
Owen Thompson
You guys are so unbelievably gay
Lincoln Price
So you've got ALL THIS KNOWLEDGE about the ins and outs of pornography, but you JUST SO HAPPEN to not watch porn?
GImme a break you crypto-kike. This shit is more see through than your jewish invisibility cloaking technology.
Levi Evans
that's why we need to nuke ukrain for good guys
im tellin you they are not people
Kayden Davis
>I know how kinks and porn categories work. But like, how would you know if you don't watch porn?
I don't watch porn. I have watched porn before, years ago. Pretty much everyone has at some point in their life, especially if they post on Yea Forums. I don't watch it now or seek it out now, no. I lost interest in it years ago.
Nathaniel King
the murder rate in ukraine per 100k is higher than the US and fits quite nicely with a few african/ME/Carribean countries. now, granted, some of these countries probably have shit reporting but that goes for many places. "the people are the problem" is over-simplifying things. people are the problem everywhere but it needs more than that.
>Facial Abuse is kino-tier porn. I love it. I tried to add Mayli on Instagram, saying she was a model-woman. She blocked me bros :(
Joshua Fisher
she never did a porn, right?? and in the end she reducing her bust, fuck.
Ethan Rivera
But you still have interest in making sure that they fucked up shit you like has NOTHING TO DO with killing and dismembering women.
Seems like this subject really struct a chord with you, crypto-kike. I wonder why that is?
Oh and your scales are showing.
Julian Davis
Because I have seen porn before. I don't watch it now and haven't for quite a while. I did not say "I have never seen pornography before". I thought that would be obvious but apparently you retards need it spelled out.
Matthew Lee
>I don't watch it now or seek it out now, no. I lost interest in it years ago. Why did you lose interest?
Jaxson Morgan
You love it because you hate women and your mother and yourself. Seek help.
Christopher Cook
>But you still have interest in making sure that they fucked up shit you like has NOTHING TO DO with killing and dismembering women ...What? What the fucking are you babbling about now?
>Seems like this subject really struct a chord with you Well, yeah. When people say stupid shit it irritates me and I feel the need to correct it. It's an autism curse. You guys just happen to be a neverending factory of stupidity.
But even my autism has its limits and this level of jew ranting and barking has gotten boring. You're literally an insane screaming basement dwelling psycho so it's better to just leave you to that fate.
Michael Nguyen
>Because I have seen porn before. How old were you when you started watching it?
Carter Campbell
Girlfriend at first, then just didn't need it after that. Got off fine with my imagination. Better even. Didn't need it.
Christian Smith
I wonder why you need to differentiate between the different types of obscene, abusive hardcore porn. I wonder why they need to DEFINITELY be separate categories in your mind.
Almost like you're hiding something...
like youre...
NEUROTIC.
Oh vey I think ya matzah ball soup is getting cold! Bettah retract those gills!
Carson Gray
Was your girlfriend also autistic?
John Ramirez
Sorry, but the dismembered corpse of your next door neighbor doesn't count as a girlfriend, not matter what your rabbi/reptillian overlord told you.
John Cruz
literally me lol
Jace Harris
Fuck help. Fuck women.
And you're right, I hate my mother.
Bentley Hughes
CAN YOU NIGGERS SHUT UP on that note when is mindhunter returning
Big surprise. I wasn't guessing either, I'm in graduate school for clinical psychology. Seriously get some help buddy, you don't need to be this miserable. You don't need to get off on torturing women, you're just projecting your hatred for your mother onto them. They never did anything to you. You can get better, I've seen it happen.
Eli Martinez
You're kinda proving his point by posting that.
Nicholas Perez
Sauce on that? Can't find anything and there's no mention of it on wikipedia
Sebastian Gray
>Porn good Seriously, who the fuck in their right mind thinks pornography is unironically a great thing?
Can you actually picture a socially well adjusted, attractive, successful, or "chad" type person ever actually posting or believing some long winded incel rant like that? The answer is no.
Easton Jones
Do you think Chads masturbate excessively to porn?
Ayden Nelson
>starts of with "Semen retention is critical to ...blah blah..blah kek peak schizoposting
I think chad is indifferent and will jerk off to porn when and if he feels like it and not write a giant essay on why it's manly to avoid it. That's why incels make up all sorts of "man rules" so they feel they can eventually BECOME manly if they follow them where actual chads just do whatever they want.
Benjamin Williams
>that pic then wouldn't monks be the manliest chads of all?
William Davis
It's hilarious watching addicts try to rationalize their self-harm.
Funny, it made me want scrambled eggs and hot sauce.
Colton Butler
It does look a little spicy like that. I'd put ketchup on it. I wonder what he tastes like though for real. Very metallic obviously. Can you imagine eating his bashed in face while he's still alive? I want to do that to a pretty girl.
Justin Lopez
seeing this when i was a kid really fucked me up. especially because i used to go on regular bike rides through woods with friends. I've probably seen worse shit now but i'll never watch this shit again.
Justin Gonzalez
That's exactly how you should feel. It's basic human empathy. We are all selfish, weak creatures but the vast majority of people feel there are certain lines which shouldn't be crossed and that crossing them should have consequences.
Ryan Kelly
>which even most of /pol/ is afraid to even watch.
lmao I watched that shit when I was like 13
Alexander Barnes
get help user
Colton Rogers
Same, that was the worst thing I know about. Genuinely considered breaking into the prison one of them is held in and torturing him to death.
Jonathan Parker
what if you put your penis in his mouth while he chokes and snorts on his blood like as a prank then said no homo haha
Is everyone in this thread just memeing about this video being traumatising? It's so grainy and low quality you can't see what's happening. Compare that to the HD cartel videos you have today. Can bet that all you pussies claiming it ruined you for life have never even seen it, given that far worse webms are posted on Yea Forums every day.
Wow, you're hardcore dude. It's so cool that you were so upset that you ACTUALLY were going to do such a daring and dangerous thing like break into prison and exact righteous justice on that monster. Wow. Wish I could give gold but I don't know how to log in here :(
I find it hilarious how many of these supposedly 'good' people now think torture is great because the victims of it are allegedly bad. Normie hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me.
Brandon Cooper
you faggot
Lincoln Powell
its not about the quality of the video its about the sound >those gurglings and moans
Wyatt Watson
It's different. Cartel victims most likely deserve what happens to them. These random Russians folks didn't deserve to be beaten to death with a hammer or stabbed repeatedly with a screw driver by three crazy Russian dudes.
Benjamin Wood
how is it hypocritical to want to hurt someone solely because they did it first?
Jonathan Ortiz
The only thing funnier is that they don't have the strengths of their convictions to actually do anything, they'd probably be shaking after giving them a bitch slap and spitting on them then run out puking out when someone with balls decides to actually get violent.
Samuel Campbell
>these guys totally deserve to be dismembered alive for reasons I don't actually know, but I assume they did something wrong Whatever makes it easier, retard.
Elijah Miller
Meh Funky Town was way worse. Guy got his face carved up by cartel. Literally a bloody red skull gurgling blood while swinging his chopped up arms
Nolan Gomez
Age of everyone ITT: -16
Bentley King
Yeah I don't care if some brown person that supports the drug trade and murder of other folks gets murdered.
Jaxson Stewart
Honestly, violent criminals should still be burned at the stake. If you hate people like the guys in the OP, and want them to suffer, then execute them by burning. Burning to death is a terrible, terrible way to die.
Gabriel Lewis
Ukraine is a shithole filled with pseudo-russians, it's worse than most ME countries by almost every metric. It's even worse than some African countries.
Asher Ward
Again, your lack of self-awareness is incredible. You don't care if people get tortured as long as they 'deserve' it. Fucking idiot.
You too.
Carter Cook
And Moldova is even worse than Ukraine. Parts of its infrastructure are third world tier.
Communism, not even once.
Aaron Martin
Correct. I also think the death penalty is justifiable for people who "deserve it"
Jayden Martin
Yeah and who gives a shit that some gypsy got beat to death by teenagers? In any case, nice assumptions. It's definitely not common for innocent people (or at least people who don't deserve to be hacked to death and their genitals shoved in their mouth) in shithole countries to get mixed up in drug violence, no sir.
Luis Hall
It's funny you phrase it this way. In the film Sicario Jeffery Donovan's character specifically addresses this issue "It's brilliant what they do. When they mutilate a body like that? They make people think they must have been involved, they must have deserved such a death cause they did something...oh it's brilliant what they do."
Ryder Kelly
Ok, idiot.
Nicholas Adams
If they were truly involved then yeah, they deserve it. Any more movie quotes?
Benjamin Reed
Everytime I see a Slavic person I wanna puke. Not because of the video, but because they're generally disgusting people.
Juan Roberts
Thank you
Ryder Long
Remember this when you form your opinion on animal protection laws.
> "The Guys First Practiced on Cats"
Christopher Williams
Spoken like a true hard talking faggot who would never get their own hands dirty.
Asher Martinez
>Any more movie quotes? On a television and film board? The point is you can never know who is "truly involved". But I get it an action thriller's dialogue can get a bit high brow for anyone!
Ian Richardson
You wouldn't even believe me if I told you.
You don't support the death penalty?
Adrian Powell
This thread would've been excusable a decade ago, but worse webms get posted to this site every day, and often even on this board. I'm convinced every one here is an unironic redditor.
Jaxson Mitchell
No, I don't.
I suppose this is the part where you tell me I'm a cuck, or spew some stupid drivel about how some people just 'deserve' it.
Nicholas Williams
You can believe whatever you want.
Jacob Torres
So can you, but that doesn't mean your beliefs aren't stupid and illogical.
Lincoln Butler
There was also a third guy that was a bit more pussy than the other two so he was only involved in a couple murders and even then he was mostly just along when they did it.
Thomas Richardson
Likewise
Thomas Collins
That guy who got his heart cut out after his cop dad was decapitated. Most of these guys didn't deserve it
Elijah Allen
They didn't do it for fame. Read about how they tortured animals from a young age. They loved to inflict pain.
Jace Nelson
Difference being that you've been presented numerous reasons ITT why your beliefs are illogical and hypocritical, which is probably why you can only respond with passive aggressive snark, because you lack any rebuttal to the notion that your lust for the death penalty is just a crude desire for vengeance that would solve nothing.
Samuel Young
No, that's what I'm saying. It was fucking retarded but it put me into a mindset of "this can't be allowed to stand." for half a day or so
Isaac Price
A cat that they crucified.
Alexander Nguyen
People that deserve the to be fucked up is somehow inhumane?
Xavier Foster
Christ, you're even more of a fucking idiot than I realised.
Adrian Hall
It's okay user. Cling to your high minded ideals.
Levi Thomas
They said that about the snuff collectors to impress their classmates but there is no evidence of that.
Brayden Cooper
It's not him clinging to his ideals, it's that you're obviously severely underage and you argue like a fucking moron.
Blake Perry
>deal drugs >kill people >get killed
>somehow this is a problem
Parker Hill
It's been pointed out multiple times that cartels don't just target rival cartel members, and you telling yourself that everyone they kill is guilty of some heinous offense (be it to them or society as a whole) is pure ignorance and rationalization.
Charles Anderson
I thought abortion was okay though?
Asher Rodriguez
And you definitly have proof that whoever they kill isn't guilty because of a movie quote?
Ian Roberts
Stop jerking off so much, you fuck.
Luke Hall
Has nothing to do with the movie quote, retard. Maybe read about what indiscriminate savages the cartels are and that wanting nothing to do with them can get you and your family killed as easily as actually getting involved and getting in over your head or being part of a rival gang.
Ryder Brooks
I see I see. So all the videos are people who dindu nuffin.
Logan Myers
Hanzha wasn't there when they did that. He was at like three murders and didn't directly participate.
Landon Morales
Nobody said that, but you insist they all did because then you can watch gore without being worked up into some faggy moralistic tizzy fit.
Ayden Scott
And Rammstein
Matthew Russell
Meanwhile, the poor Russians murdered by thee guys one hammer were clearly innocent.
Juan Stewart
And what about the cartel videos makes those people clearly guilty other than assumptions pulled from your ass?
Liam Johnson
Also, the weak should fear the strong and The Maniacs' stated purpose was thinning the herd.
Thomas Davis
Your proof of their innocence being?
Jonathan Brooks
Google is your friend, retard. Thread's over.
Brody Thomas
Unlikely. They lived in central Ukraine away from where the fighting occurred.
Isaiah Sullivan
mountainous part of Morocco not Tunisia
Julian Young
I like facial abuse but don't hate my mother, she is very chill and not a cunt
Samuel Butler
Speaking of that, how was his uncle never court martialed or convicted of war crimes if he literally took photos of him tying up, mutilating and beheading civilian women?
