Is the live action adaptation going to be good?

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>Directed by Taika Waititi
>Screenplay by Taika Waititi
it can be

>Taika Waititi

Not that I have a problem with him, but not for Akira.

I want accurate adaptations. Everyone in the movie should be Japanese, like how everyone in wakanda should be black or everyone in Westeros (outside of Dorne) should be white. If you are adapting Star Trek, it makes sense to make the cast diverse because that is what that world is. Putting politics in front of accuracy is retarded in both directions.

Just downloaded this weirdly enough. I've never watched it before and apparently its dual audio. Should I watch jap wit sub or eng with dub?

subbed jap

Jap with sub is good. The old English dub is retarded but fun. The newer English dub is pretty good. Honestly it’s your pick.

Oh, also I should mention that the lip syncing was animated for the Japanese audio, so the others look a bit off.

I'll go eith jap then and rewatch eventually with the dub if I like it enough. Can you lads recommend any other anime? I've literally only ever seen pokemon and was interested to try watch some. Thought I'd start with Akira since its one of the most popular.

I'm no anime expert but I like Satoshi Kon's work, maybe you'll like it too. Try Paprika(2006)

I’ve only seen normie shit, but Hayao Miyazaki makes some good movies, and the first ghost in the shell movie is pretty interesting.

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the screaming just sounds right (in japanese), yk

also, Tenshi no Tamago

Everyone likes cowboy bebop. Akira's a solid choice, and if you prefer anime movies to shows Studio Ghibli is an obvious place to start. Check out Porco Rosso

Can't stand the original anime to begin with. No idea how Waititi directing should get me excited for the adaptation.

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>Code Geass
>Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
>Elfen Lied
>Redline
I fucking hate anime but those were fine.

>Can you lads recommend any other anime?
That's an incredibly broad question since there's a shitload of different kinds of anime. Without any further info I'm gonna recommend Kaiji, it's normalfag friendly and has a very intense atmosphere.

shitty movie, manga was vastly superior

Pic
Kaiba
Redline
NGE (End of Eva is the best part, but it's best to get the full story from the series first to know what's happening, even though the series is honestly pretty meh considering the protagonist)
Neo Tokyo
Memories
And this post:

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No, they're going to make either Tetsuo or Kaneda black

As long as you don't Netflix produce it, sounds like it could be kino

By what exactly? It lacked all the proper exposition the manga dealt with in hundreds of sides. How are you supposed to feel for Tetsuo if literally all Kaneda does to him is treating him like a little brother?

fpbp
i'll still probably go see it at the kinoplex like an idiot though

the original is so insanely perfect that I don’t even see the point in a remake, it’s not like they can improve or outdo it

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forget all the other pics this is the only one you need

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No they won’t. Everyone knows Asians don’t get shit when it comes to film representation. Making the main characters anything but Japanese would piss off so many people.

>5 Centimeters
Great otherwise.

Berserk TV Series from the early 90s
Cowboy Bebop, movie or TV
Movie is standalone and really good so maybe you should check that one out first before committing to the series
Princess Mononoke and Castle in the Sky
Lupin the 3rd Castle of Cagliostro (on Netflix)

Meant for

Good recommendations, although I'd rather he read Berserk, without touching any of the anime.

>Waltz with Bashir
That Israeli Propaganda piece?
Lol no thanks

sick list thank you

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It's actually pretty good all things considered, but okay.

It's fine if the characters aren't Japanese if they can make the story work so it takes place in America with American characters, but that'll probably just result in an empty shell of a story that has all the events of the story but none of the meaning.

Hate the animation, looks like a flash cartoon
It'd be like if the taliban made a shitty cartoon about their "triumphs"
just in poor taste all-around

Okay. I'm not defending it. You do you.

>only movies
How gay are you?

how gay are you? rhetorical, you're very gay lmao

I was just messing with you. the visuals are worth it tho

The anime was basically just a tech demo, albeit a great one. I don't see how some generic CGI shit with bad actors is gonna enhance that. Akira still looks fantastic because it is hand drawn, CGI doesn't impress anyone anymore these days.

They could make something cool if they used mostly practical effects and sets, but that's not going to happen.

fuck this live action trend and everyone involved

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FUCK ANIME

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I don't even want to think about who they'll get to score this movie. Hollywood music is an absolute joke.

B A S E D
Watch real Asian kino instead.

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>Israeli Propaganda piece?
dude
it's about an israeli massacre of civilians

>Akira still looks fantastic because it is hand drawn,
even the best jap cartoons are not at the level of hanna barbera western animation

Thank you, my based frog

I've always disliked the anime version due to it being over stuffed with pointless characters and plotlines and pointless bullshit in general, plus dragging on for way too long. Everything in the post-apocalyptic Tokyo is so boring and repetitive, the movie was right to skip that and go straight to the stadium mutation. Tetsuo wasn't anymore sympathetic in the Manga either and Akira being an autistic mute is way less interesting to me as well.

In This Corner of the World is anime and it not only was selected as the picture of the year by Japan's oldest film magazine, but prompted Takeshi Kitano to say that live action films were losing to animation.

Akira is a great anime to adapt because it's an absolute messy clusterfuck. And it's a masterpiece.
There's all these amazing elements to the story and to the world of the film, and the art and music and design in the original are GOAT.
So there's so much to take from it for a new film.
But the story is an absolute mess, the pacing is totally fucked, they jam way too much stuff in, none of the relationships or characters are great and there are so many different things which could be elaborated on or cut.

Like what if they actually showed Kaneda & Tetsuo as friends at the start of the film, so that we actually care about what happens to their relationship later in the film? And it doesn't have to rely on cliche flashbacks to the orphanage to establish that we should care?
What if they removed the scene in the school because it doesn't affect anything, or elaborated on it.
Same with the coup.
Same with the cult stuff.
Same with the 'terrorists'.
What if the psychic kids stuff actually worked?

The original is all this amazing worldbuilding crammed together into a story which overall doesn't even work that well with 10/10 never bettered art and music and the tone and themes carry it but it's really not some flawless sacred masterpiece like people say.

Literally nobody cares what that loser says. What people -do- care about is interesting cinema. Sorry your gay cartoons can't put up a fight against true craftsmanship.
>looks up ratings for In tThis Faggot of the World
>lower than most of that Asian kino
No surprise.

it's odd that this doesn't have any koreeda films on it considering that he's easily the best, and really only relevant japanese directly working

live action anime thread? youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-E9pzOFPM

That loser is on your list of kino films that you just posted.

>Sorry your gay cartoons can't put up a fight against true craftsmanship.
They aren't cartoons and there is a lot of craftsmanship that goes into them. Everything on the screen has to be done by hand.

>koreeda
He's great, but let's not kid ourselves when we say "only relevant," when Parasite got some pretty big praise this year. Joon-ho might start pumping out great stuff here soon, honing his talents finally.
Yeah, he had one good film and one decent action scene in Boiling, and he's got a ton of whacky comments in his old age. He was also in the latest Ghost in the Shell, the one that flopped, without doing anything for the original.
>cartoons are craft!
Yeah, elementary arts and crafts lmao. Cartoons are garbage and don't deserve any amount of praise, which is why only hacks like Kitano love it and why all awards worth a shit go to films.

>Yeah, elementary arts and crafts lmao.
Explain how it is elementary to create, say, this:

youtube.com/watch?v=PhHoCnRg1Yw

All of that animation had to be made one drawing at a time with a pen and paper. All of the backgrounds had to be painted one at a time (or animated), and often consist of multiple layers.

>Cartoons are garbage and don't deserve any amount of praise
We aren't talking about cartoons though, we are talking about anime.

>which is why only hacks like Kitano love it
He doesn't like animation.

>and why all awards worth a shit go to films.
Anime has won best picture twice in Japan, and a Golden Bear.

I hadn't even considered that. Akira's score is one of the best parts of the film desu.

youtube.com/watch?v=jafd97yJFOI

only relevant japanese director lad

and i'll be very surprised if the guy who made Okja, Snowpiercer and The Host, which i did like, but are by no means amazing films, has actually managed to make a true kino, but hey most Palme d'Or winners this decade have been worthy.

>won best picture twice in Japan
The Tokyo Animation Award
The Japan Academy Prize for Animation
Big whoops. Nice. Much props to your cartoons. All these decades and they finally managed to snag awards in their own catergories. Not a joke at all.
>Kitano doesn't like animation
One good opinion from him. Ghibli should have had that man teach them how to produce a good one-shot action scene before his mind went.
>The Fart Wind Rises
HAHAHAHAHAHA
AHHHHHHH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I have more respect for K-On.

Oh true, you did say Japanese. Yeah Joon did great at Cannes this year. Can't wait to see Parasite and The Lighthouse.

No, I mean best picture. As in best anything. Live action or animated.

>HAHAHAHAHAHA
>AHHHHHHH
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Still waiting for you to explain how there isn't any craftsmanship that goes into making anime. Well?

>I have more respect for K-On.
K-On has lower production quality.

>No, I mean best picture. As in best anything. Live action or animated.
>Japanese awards
Okay.
>Still waiting for you to explain how there isn't any craftsmanship that goes into making anime.
It's called mise en scène and dregs of society like you wouldn't know it if it hit you.
>K-On has lower production quality.
Okay? And? It's an authentic piece. A trite, garbage piece, but far more respectful to the vision the creator wanted. Anyone with integrity would rather smell those farts and The Wind Rises' diarreah.

>Japanese awards
So?

>It's called mise en scène and dregs of society like you wouldn't know it if it hit you.
Yes, that exists in anime too. So where's your proof that no craftsmanship is involved? I'm waiting.

>Okay? And?
And how can you slam The Wind Rises for not having any craftsmanship put into it but claim that K-On is better when K-On has lower production quality?

>It's an authentic piece. A trite, garbage piece, but far more respectful to the vision the creator wanted.
The Wind Rises is completely a Miyazaki movie. K-On is based on a manga and had three people writing it and seven people directing it.

>So?
Oh, so you know nothing about the French or America at all.
>mise en scène exists in anime
Less than Jackass, somehow. Pic related.
>K-On has lower production quality?
And?
>The Wind Rises is completely a Miyazaki movie
A Miyazaki wash. Old man makes another adventure movie about youthful adventure in his pursuit to match the old Disney films he loved so much, but is too old to capture the magic of his other works because he just rehashes it all, again. Snore.

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Shoji Yamashiro didn't write the Akira score to picture, so what they produced was a sort of symphony that the editors could drop into the picture wherever they wanted. That could be done again with the original recording, but considering the way music is thought of in Hollywood it doesn't seem likely.
God, I just know they're going to get Lorne Balfe or some other hack to do it and it'll have gamelan samples in the main titles and that's it.

I never said anything like that. All I said was that two anime movies have won best picture in Japan. And I also said that one has won a Golden Bear. And an Oscar, if you think that's so important.

>Less than Jackass, somehow.
You clearly know nothing about anime.

>And?
And I just told you:
>And how can you slam The Wind Rises for not having any craftsmanship put into it but claim that K-On is better when K-On has lower production quality?

>A Miyazaki wash. Old man makes another adventure movie about youthful adventure in his pursuit to match the old Disney films he loved so much, but is too old to capture the magic of his other works because he just rehashes it all, again. Snore.
It's his movie. K-On is a manga adaptation made by several writers and directors. The Wind Rises is the superior work here, according to your own criteria. Miyazaki has never tried to make Disney films, and what exactly is The Wind Rises supposed to be rehashing?

>Miyazaki has never tried to make Disney films
Haha, yeah not responding after this one. You're a bad troll.

Not him and
I didn't love the wind rises but it's not really about Youthful adventure.
It's not a kids film either

It's more a portrait of a dreamy artist, an plane otaku piece, and miyazaki headfucking himself about the war and his fathers involvement.

tonally it's bittersweet if anything, not joyous.

>No End of Evangelion
Infinitely better than fucking Angel's Egg.

I didn't troll anywhere. His films are nothing like Disney's.

This exchange just proves once again that anti-anime posters are subhuman retards who know nothing about film or art and should all be locked away in labor camps.

>his films are nothing like Disney's, the company that owns Ghibli rights and whose films he wanted to make a real Japanese story for, taking their whimsical style and bright painted backdrops

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There are a million legitimate criticisms you can make of anime though, even the supposedly 'elevated' stuff, which generally tend to upset anime fans.

but i guess that's true of most things

Disney owned the rights to distribute their films, and again his films are nothing like Disney's. You've either never seen Ghibli or you've never seen Disney, and it's not possible for you to have seen both and still conclude that they are similar.

There are practically zero criticisms against anime that are valid.

the influence goes both ways
nu star wars and nausica
moana and ponyo
castle in the sky and up
spirited away and coco

and miyazaki claims to not have even seen most disney films like he said he didn't watch the lion king and he doesn't like watching films in general lol

>There are practically zero criticisms against anime that are valid.
you and the other guy are two sides of the same coin

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Then where are the valid criticisms? They always turn out to be bullshit.

i shant be bother with you weeb

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>his films are nothing like Disney's
This is why he's known as "The Japanese Walt Disney". Ah, yes, truly a man of great arguments.
>he doesn't like watching films in general
He's actually spoken a lot about how older animations made him want to animate, especially Russian works, who Disney also stole a lot from before he ever decided to animate. Russia's actually pretty sick and underrated when it comes to animation. Czech as well. The Czech new wave was an amazing era for film.

Prove that I'm a weeb.

Tezuka is the Japanese Walt Disney, and his works weren't like Disney's either.

>practically zero criticisms against anime that are valid.
12FPS
Lip-syncing
Fan service
Unorignal stories
Poor character design
Terrible writing tropes, such as the "In other words" line constantly showing up.
Big anime eyes
Shonen and Moe as a whole
*disappears behind you*
*talks for hours between each punch about nothing*
Third-grade words as far as the eye can see
Oh boy, another high school show!
Oh boy, another gothic loli show!
Oh boy, another magical girl fart!
Whoa, is that another card game made into a show?! Gotta buy!
*has to defend animation shortcuts because I'm a huge weeb*
Wow! Another music video in a movie! And it's shiny!
Miyazaki is literally known as The Japanese Walt. Stop trolling, you idiot.

>[there are no valid criticisms of anime]
>not a weeb

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>n-not a weeb!
Coming, this summer season.

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I know this is a fairly unpopular opinion here, giving the recent general shenanigans , but i thought that Alita was a fairly decent anime adaption. Not great, but a 7.5/10 which is better than every other adaption to date. I've read the manga a decade ago and was surprised how much they crammed into the movie despite it being a totally neutered PG13 adaption.
So i believe it is possible to do a decent adaption of any anime if the artists who are doing it put enough effort into it (and understand the original).

Akira tough is a difficult beast to adapt. How big is the budget? They have to put a lot of money into it to make it look and feel great, there is demand for tons and tons of VFX, probably more than any MCU movie. Are they willing to spent that much?

All valid criticism, but none of it applies to Akira.

Artists not developing a unique illustration style for their story is enough to not like something.

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>12FPS
Most people can't distinguish between 12 and 24. Fun fact: Akira is mostly 12.

>Lip-syncing
Japanese has far fewer sounds and the lip flaps are made to match the Japanese script. Most people watch with English dubs. There are also production advantages to animating before voices.

>Fan service
This is exaggerated and subject to double standards. Literally anything goes in the West, but anime is put on full blast the second there's any suggestion of sexuality.

>Poor character design
It has the best character design in the world, hands down.

>Terrible writing tropes, such as the "In other words" line constantly showing up.
Tropes are universal and inescapable ("You better come take a look at this!").

>Big anime eyes
How is this a criticism?

>Shonen and Moe as a whole
Shounen is just a target demographic, and moe is a feeling you have towards a character.

>*disappears behind you*
>*talks for hours between each punch about nothing*
That's a battle shounen thing.

>Third-grade words as far as the eye can see
?

>Oh boy, another high school show!
High school is a setting, not a premise or genre.

>Oh boy, another gothic loli show!
Goth loli is a character type.

>Oh boy, another magical girl fart!
?

>Whoa, is that another card game made into a show?! Gotta buy!
How is this a criticism?

>*has to defend animation shortcuts because I'm a huge weeb*
Virtually nobody understand a single thing about how anime uses shortcuts and why, how it compares against other animation.

>Wow! Another music video in a movie! And it's shiny!
?

>but none of it applies to Akira.
I couldn't bash Akira. Pic related is an example of fantastic animation, and done in an interesting way. There are few things anyone could say is bad about Akira.

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>sister hits him and calls him a baka
>while saying anime is crap

>Miyazaki is literally known as The Japanese Walt. Stop trolling, you idiot.
Maybe by brainlets. It's Tezuka who is equivalent to Disney.

Prove that I'm a weeb.

Prove that I'm a weeb.

What are you talking about?

The biggest appeal of Akira was how much of a technical achievement it was, making it in live action misses the point entirely

>I'm Shinji
Hahahaha
Fuck please tell me what show this is.
>prove that I'm a weeb
>continues to gish gallop every comment
Mad weeb not responding lmao.

>Akira is mostly 12.
No its not.
That's actually what sets the movie apart from others.
Its filmed at 24 and animated at that framerate.

If an anime art style looks generic, the artist failed to put the work in to make something interesting. Copying the work of others is retarded, they should develop their own visual style.

akira uses cliche flashbacks to establish why we should care about the two main characters relationship between each other (and why they care about each other)

ultimately you don't and the film falls flat based on that.

akira crams way too much content from a long manga into a feature film and has terrible pacing because of it.

Akira even has a high school setting at one point lol

It's an amazing film but it's certainly not flawless.

>Anime will become one of Japan's greatest assets
He's not wrong, it is one of the things they're most known for.

>Screenplay by Taika Waititi
source?

God I love Metropolis

no the biggest appeal of Akira is how cool the world of the film is, how alive the city of neo-tokyo feels with all its conflicting groups, the religeous cult, the political struggles, corporate greed, the military, the warring biker gangs, the terrorists

and secondary is the tone and feeling of the film, contributed to obviously by the music and the art, but how the film feels.

the animation is next.

Prove that I'm a weeb.

No. It really is 12. This is what I meant when I said people can't tell the difference. If you look at Akira with a video player that can do frame stepping, it's mostly 12.

There are something like 50 anime that come out every three months (which is just a fraction of all the manga and light novels getting published), it's not possible or even desirable for all of them to look totally unique. This is a stupid expectation to have.

this. with all his virtue signaling about not wanting to whitewash it, where does he get the chutzpah to appropriate this Japanese story for himself? Why not give a Japanese director 1/10th of the budget this will eat up and let him (or her!) direct it with a Japanese cast and crew locally where it is set: in fucking Japan!

It's already out youtube.com/watch?v=PsO6ZnUZI0g

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can you just pick what you personally believe and talk about that please

instead of constantly trying to catch people out for being hypocrites.

if AKIRA had been a meidum budget OVA nobody would remember it. it's mainly famous because it was most boomer's first exposure to anime. it's long forgotten in japan.

these are all opinions which can be challenged.
>cliche flashbacks
no, they work pretty good imho.
>terrible pacing
nope, its not the greatest but far from terrible
>high school setting
I absolutely hate school settings in anime, Akira's scenes do have a reason to paint an interesting picture about the society it is set in. It makes totally sense from an story-telling perspective and it was what...like 3 minutes of school?

No its not on 12, its a mixture of 24 and 12.
Characters and dynamic effects/objects often in 24, some background and secondary stuff in 12.
Get your facts straight.

Japanese feelings about Akira are hard to understand because thematically it's ultimately about the threat of total annihilation right?
That's uniquely related to the Japanese Psyche.
And I think it's something which they might shy away from, and which also is impossible to really culturally understand as someone else.

It's the one thing which i think is the most important issue adapting it outside Japan. But no one ever seems to bring it up in these threads.

>Akira even has a high school setting at one point lol
Yeah, I said -few- things, and this is one. The Japanese have a relly weird Peter Pan complex. Probably because they're overworked.
>akira uses cliche flashbacks to establish why we should care about the two main characters relationship between each other (and why they care about each other)
I want to agree with you in theory, but the flashbacks aren't something we've previously seen in the story, like how most anime shows today practice. It's hard to fault that one since it's a flashback with new information. Agree to disagree here.
>akira crams way too much content from a long manga into a feature film and has terrible pacing because of it.
I never read tha manga, but I agree. There was information missing, but they made the best with what they could. Since I didn't read the manga I'm not even sure how much missing info was critical, it just felt like it needed to slow down in some transitions.

Again, you can see that it's mostly 12 if you use framestepping. It only looks 24 because you can't tell the difference. I can't necessarily tell the difference either.

Flashbacks are a cheap narrative device. And especially used in such a fundamental way as they are in this story.

You might not be bothered by it because you don't have a sophisticated understanding of storytelling or any real taste, but that's not an opinion, it's a fast.

> its not the greatest but far from terrible
ok as long as you recognise that it's not great. Because everything in that film should be great. It is an incredible film. Any element which isn't great, is dragging it down, and is a flaw.

>and it was what...like 3 minutes of school?
yes, and it's a fine scene, which does make sense in and of itself, but Akira simply has too many things crammed in. And that is one of the things.

akira not being remembered in japan has nothing to do with it hitting "too close to home" and everything with it being 30+ years old and just another anime flick for them. for westerners it was the first taste of something different, an introduction to a genre/an artform. that's why it's held in such high esteem in the west.

consider you remove the flashbacks
Now you're never shown Tetsuo & Kaneda getting along, you have no understanding of why Tetsuo has such an inferiority complex or why Kaneda cares about him and goes to such great lengths for him, and as an audience, you don't care about their relationship.

'saves him in an orphanage flashback' is the most cheap emotionally manipulative story device to do that possible. And it's not just some detail. It's fundamental to the story even working at all.

which it doesn't. Because as an audience we don't really care about either of the two main characters or their relationship.

It's just a wild crazy ride. The film is amazing, but as a story, it's a failure.

The solution would be to have a first act which actually shows their friendship. Which is what i hope the adaptation does.

I have no idea but i kind of imagine that it's a cult classic there. Like I know that people in japan care way more about contemporary culture but that's true in general everywhere.

It's got nothing to do with any specific work, no matter how 'significant'. Even say The Godfather isn't really actually relevant now.

and cool if you don't want to talk about what I said about the theme of annihalation
but also fuck you

>it's long forgotten in japan.
Source? I'd be willing to admit that a younger generation might not know or care about it, similar to US youth for classic US films(like The Godfather or Taxi Driver), but with the level of success its achieved worldwide, I doubt its just completely vanished from their public consciousness. Any country that makes a product that is successful throughout the world tends to make it a part of their history. I'm sure it's at least still remembered academically or by people working in the industry who respect it.

You are wrong on both accounts.
Go fucking google it and educate yourself.
Large parts of Akira is animated at 24frames and people can clearly see the difference between 12 and 24 frames per second.
I can tell the difference between 24 and 60fps and if you can't, your perception sucks. Maybe your copy is shit or your frame-stepping is jumping 2 frames at once.

>you don't have a sophisticated understanding of storytelling
do you have any argument that isn't a childish ad hominem.
>that's not an opinion, it's a fast.
There are no facts when subjectively judging art.
Flashbacks are not automatically bad, context matters.
>Akira simply has too many things crammed in.
I don't think so. That's just your opinion.

yeah this is what i think as well
i think maybe that user was just trying to point out that kids these days don't have a narrow window of anime like 'akira, miyazaki, bebop, the list can go on' which you'd see in an anime threat on Yea Forums

>Flashbacks are not automatically bad
sure, but i explained specifically why it is bad in this instance

>Who are they even for?
They're for fans of the original curious to see how it looks in live action, and for people who've never seen the original because they aren't manbabies who watch cartoons.

the flashbacks also exist to serve a parallel between Kaneda & Tetsuo's relationship and that between Akira and the old kids.

But that doesn't really work either, it's just not given enough space.

The fact you didn't point that out highlights the fact that it didn't work.

Yeah, because Japanese love action adaptations of anime aren't literally always sci-fi channel original movie tier dogshit.

Google what? I have Media Player Classic. It has framestepping. I can open my copy of Akira and see for myself that it's mostly 12 FPS. This isn't a matter of perception or opinion. There is nothing wrong with my copy. Akira is not 24 FPS. You just thought it was because you and most people cannot tell the difference, which is what I've been saying all along.

Berserk 1997
Jojo
Monster
Hellsing
Jin Roh
Ghost in the Shell movies and tv series, but not the newest or the live action because they suck
is this bait? no wonder you hate anime with such shit taste

>I fucking hate anime but those were fine.
I never see this said about anything else. Just anime.

You are simply wrong, go read up on the movie. 24 AND 12 FPS.
Its a FACT, and i already told you i can see the difference, everybody can.
At this point i am starting to believe you are just trolling.

Again... I used framestepping to see the framerate for myself. The internet is full of people saying it's 24 FPS because they can't tell the difference and have never checked it for themselves.

>At this point i am starting to believe you are just trolling.
How is it trolling to use framestepping to confirm that a movie is mostly 12 FPS? Please explain.

youtube.com/watch?v=1NpbLMvtEsU

I am not denying that there are scenes which are animated in 12fps, but you seems to deny the fact that there are scenes (alot of them) which are clearly animated at 24.
Otomo said so in an interview, it has been discussed in numerous publications and everybody with a working perception can actually see it. You can also calculate it by looking at the lenght of the movie and the amount of cells they did.
~160000 individual cells.

I never said there isn't any animation at 24 FPS, I said it's mostly 12 FPS.

>You can also calculate it by looking at the lenght of the movie and the amount of cells they did.
Or you could just load the movie in a video player and framestep through scenes and see that it's in fact mostly 12 FPS.

Needs this one

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Synthwave works well with Akira youtube.com/watch?v=Z0BUmTOwyCU

Source? Looks like something I'd watch

Let me break it down for you imbecile.
124 minutes are 7440 seconds times 24 frames per second equals 178560 individual frames.
The drew around 160000... the difference is roughly 10 minutes.
>it's mostly 12 FPS.
No it isn't.
Case closed.

Framestep doesn't lie. If you advance frame by frame and every other frame is a new frame of animation, then it is 12 FPS. That's what most of Akira is.