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>jj dumps a bunch of mystery boxes around so the next guy is forced to work off them
>next guy not only ignores almost all of them but basically takes a steaming shit all over them
>jj is going to ignore what he did and go back to the mystery boxes he originally shat out and had ideas for
this is going to be such a trainwreck
I don't really remember anything about these movies, what are the mystery boxes?
I stopped watching The Force Awakens by the middle of it and still haven't finished it
the plot
Finn in general
Rey being force sensitive (and able to take out a trained sith)
The lightsaber
The voices with the lightsaber
Luke on mystery island (now ruined)
Snookie (now ruined)
The fate of chewie and the falcon
Ben and his Sith training
the first order in general
Female stormtrooper general lady
the ramifications of the force returning
Bullllshit.
They've already revealed they had no plan and that Rian Johnson started writing his dreck before JJ's turd was on screens.
Do they honestly have this little regard for their audience or do they just assume people will forget?
This film will completely suck beyond belief. For them to say that the third film was planned from the start is ridiculous. I have no faith in disney. You people need to stop watching film in general. Don't come at me with "oh I can't even have fun" nonsense. Stop getting angry all the time and just ignore these films.
who are you talking to faggot?
>Do they honestly have this little regard for their audience or do they just assume people will forget?
yes
Well, they planned to have a third movie, planned who they wanted to act in the main roles and planned how much tax money they can save by making it. The rest is made up as they go along. I'd say that qualifies as "much of".
Could it be that all the controversy is just astroturfing? The mouse could be right here, in this thread and no one would know. Maybe I'm the mouse?
Right... Damage fucking control
have gender
>the ramifications of the force returning
The force left at some point? lol
Im happy i bailed on this dumb shit after TFA , i never even watched TLJ
It's literally in the title you dumb autistic piece of shit.
You people are a nuisance to humanity.
>HEY GUYS SOME OF THE THINGS IN THIS FINAL CHAPTER OF THE TRILOGY ACTUALLY WEREN'T RANDOM
Huh
This is why I don't understand why you faggots hated TLJ so much. What JJ did with TFA was so uninteresting and disrespectful, there was no way to honor it. Rian had to ignore every plot thread and make a plot that had absolutely no consequences.
I didnt think it was litteral, how did Kylo Ren even use the force if it stopped working, oh fuck it, no point in trying to make sense of this dumb shit, it onlu boils down to, buy more Star Wars products, its just a big budget comercial for cheep plastic trash
Rian apologists belong into yellow barrels and put into storage with other radioactive waste.
It never stopped working, only the practitioners went away.
I never said that TLJ was good. All I said was that it was better than dishonestly attempting to grow off of TFA.
This is why I have no respect for you faggots. You only started the anti-SW crusade after TLJ, not after TFA or R1 which were just as bad if not worse. If you were ok with TFA and wanted a genuine sequel to see what happened next, you don't deserve anything good or nice. You got what you deserved; you got TLJ.
Much of the Rise of Skywalker was planned from the start...of the production, 10 months ago.
>planned from the start
You still belong into that barrel with all the stupid shit you're typing.
>He actually liked TFA and wished for a sequel that slowly revealed more of what was teased in it
What a fucking pathetic faggot you are.
Why did Disney cede so much power to its directors for Star Wars? We've regularly heard how directors didn't like working on mcu movies because of the lack of control. Vs Star wars where the just let them do whatever the fuck.
>I don't really remember anything about these movies
I just realized I dont remember any of the movies either and I watched them all.
>Why did Disney cede so much power to its directors for Star Wars?
Are you kidding me? One was replaced to reshoot parts of the movie, another was fired before he could start the movie and another pair were fired after they made the whole movie which was then re-shot.
It's Kennedy's vision.
That strawman is so poor it does not even burn.
WHO CARES?
how jayjay is going to bring back palpatine in the most subversive way possible
Yeah I guess you're right. It just seems like they let JJ and Rian run wild with whatever though. How do you keep a job after mismanaging a 4b franchise?
JJ Abrams
Then shouldn't it be The Force Practioners Awaken
and you gotta deal with it
...and the rest is improvised
>t just seems like they let JJ and Rian run wild with whatever though.
JJ has enough clout with her former boss Spielberg to be given some leeway and even then there's reports they clash. Johnson seemingly did everything he was told to which is why she liked him so much and gave him his own trilogy to also ruin.
Why did they even change the director for the sequel in the first place?
I'm assuming JJ didn't want to be in charge of ending his own story
truly
the last message
>they weren't planned
>they were planned
Make up your fucking mind, you fucking train wreck.
People are good at forgetting crap.
>much
That gives you a lot of confidence on the product doesn't it? To know a lot just gets made up on the fly.
To be fair, going full improv following TFA and TLJ isn't inherently bad. I sure don't give a shit about anything either of these hacks tried to set up.
Note the qualifier "much of"
"Much of" means they planned to make three of these fucking turkey films and soak a lot of nerds out of their parent's money. That's it.
nah, because they were normally away.
it should be "the return of the force practitioners"
The Practical Consequences of the Rekindling of the Once Removed Force Practitioners After Their Recent Hiatus
No, TLJ and TFA were both horrible. TFA had the chance to be salvaged into something maybe decent depending on the where they went in the next movie, but TLJ didn't salvage TFA and make it it better because TLJ was so fucking bad. TLJ ensured that this trilogy is awful because nothing can salvage this mess now after that.
>TFA had the chance to be salvaged depending on where they went in the next movie.
Wrong. You don't understand why TFA was shit then, and why people who thought it could have been good were retards who got baited by JJ for the dozenth time.
He sound autistic, that one, yeh he does.
Nah, he sounds insecure. CAlling himself a janitor, he's seen our shitposting, he's trying to embrace it with humor but in reality he's hurt. i can't blame him, jew jew did him dirty.
I've never seen the movies desu, I'm just a Russian paid to subvert the neoliberal clown order. If people are brainwashed with convincing arguments that Disney Wars fucking sucks, then there is no way that dems will win in 2020 and Trump will continue to sell America's uranium to Russia for cheap.
Devils advocate here, it has been stated multiple times that JJ had outlines for 8 and 9 and Lucasfilm threw them out. Star Wars is still fucked though and not getting a cent from me.
Disney always lies like this, e.g. the MCU, but normies always eat it up because they're retarded.
They didn't have any plan for episode VII, how could they have a plan for the trilogy?
Knights of Ren
It is a sin to lie
Literally the only good thing about TLJ is that it took a gigantic unrepentant shit all over JewJew and his stupid fucking mystery box shit.
Unfortunately, that is not nearly enough to make up for the self-fellating quasipostmodern pretentious trainwreck that is every other aspect of the movie.
I completely agree
They brought back the same old Empire vs Rebels, same ships, same devolved characters and PRACTICAL EFFECTS. They thought those were the things that mattered. Just tells you how they don't understand Star Wars.
Adding to this, why they didn't just adapt the novels they had was because Disney didn't like the idea of paying royalties to the writers. Think autistic nerds that would make sure everything makes sense and aligns with the lore.
Trigger discipline fags are almost as bad as his name isn't actually Frankenstein fuckheads.
But did you know that????
i dunno i'd be happy about practical effects but wasn't there some shitty cartoon cgi spaghetti monster in tfa?
technically force users were constantly being born but the empire was killing everyone who tested positive
Nu-Lucasfilm is lying through its teeth here. Daily reminder that JJ Abrams himself has admitted that he didn't even MEET Rian Johnson until AFTER Rian had written The Last Jedi.
>Do they honestly have this little regard for their audience or do they just assume people will forget?
Both!
What the fuck is a mystery box? Dumb zoomers. They’re called Macguffins.
That's not what a macguffin is and you're a dumbass.
>Being this out of touch
Oh no no no
that just killed any hype for it
I'm actually glad that Ryan made that obscenity called TLJ, he called JJ's bluff and now he'll (probably) be forced to address all the shit he hinted in TFA. He's the master of setting up bullishit that later someone else has to make pay off.
Was destroying this franchise part of your plan?
Stay mad zoomers who don’t know how to label things correctly
I'm not mad, just sad that 'people' as retarded as you still exist
At least I know how to use terms properly, Zoomer Box Jr
You just proved you don't though
>Planned
Yep, definitely.
Bull
Fucking
Shit
You're wrong though. You're the one that got the terms wrong and what's worse is you were trying to correct people
>the movies had no planning which was very freeing creatively
>actually this was all planned from the start
So Disney, which is the lie?
>Much of the movie was planned from the start
ONE SHOULD CERTAINLY FUCKING HOPE SO
>Darling: In short, a German spy is giving away every one of our battle plans.
>Melchett: You look surprised, Blackadder.
>Blackadder: I certainly am, sir. I didn't realise that we had any battle plans.
>Melchett: Well of course we have! How else do you think the battles are directed?!
>Blackadder: Our battles are directed, sir?
>Melchett: Well of course they are, Blackadder, directed according to the grand plan.
>Blackadder: Would that be the plan to continue with total slaughter until everyone's dead except for Field Marshall Haig, Lady Haig and their tortoise, Alan?
>Melchett: [horrified] Great Scott! Even you know it!
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More damage control? Yawn even watching the trainwreck is getting boring now
>115884276
EPIC TROLE
enjoy your ban
Rian is still that 1 kid trying to get attention by being overly dramatic
Sad
I want to FUCK rey in the MOUTH
>t. poor trigger discipline
Im sure they had many plans.
This is plan b: Carrie fucking died irl.
Compensating for audience reception of Rose and Finn as well.
People.have loads of plans, whether they intended for this, thats another matter.
People don't give JJ enough shit for what he did to star wars he is one the reason why the entire franchise is dead, with his Mystery box shit.
>I don't understand why you faggots hated TLJ so much.
>it was shit because it HAD to be
I still have not seen a single nu-Wars movie, I just get a feed drip of memes from Yea Forums.
It was going to be shit regardless. It DID have to be shit. It was a no-win situation. Taking a dump on TFA >>>>> a dishonest attempt to salvage the horrible fake storytelling of TFA.
macguffins are (mostly) physical objects the characters pursue/fight for and mystery boxes are any unanswered detail that could (potentially) pay off later
Jesus, everything about Rian is so embarrassing. How hard did he get bullied in highschool?
This.
>JJ makes a cookie cutter star wars film with enough Mysterious bullshit for anyone competent to write a convincing sequel to
>Rain being a retarded writes his own fanfiction that ruins the mystery boxes set up in TFA because subversion
>JJ and Lucasfilm go into damage control mode, pretend episode 8 doesn't exist, and just continue on with the plan they originally had
>replying to a tripfag
Yikes.
Probably what happened was that Rain didn't get the message and thought having creative directing powers meant he could make up his own story. Disney/JJ probably did have a road map for the sequels, but Rain fucked it up, so now they just have to try and ignore/retcon episode 8
How could I know? everyone is anonymous with Yea Forums X
All I give a shit is what about Rey. What the fuck is her powers? Is she a Sith creation? Was Kylo Ren lying about her? Will she ever be a jedi now that Luke is dead?
>film isn't even out yet
>in damage control mode already
>giving a shit about rey
Literally why
Hahaha, nice try, into the memory hole you go.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH I WANNA FUCK THAT SLUT
I fucking hate the media cycle. I wish I wasn't a coward and I was just able to option out of media and bullshit. But I love posting on Yea Forums. I have no friends, I have nothing outside of posting nonsense, pretending to be retarded or talking about things I life.
Fuck the media!
Rian status BTFO
I wanna destroy her autistic pussy
I want to have sex with her.
They were both shit, but for different reasons.
How many pics of you holding your hipoint aiming at the camera or a mirror do you have? Be honest.
soys are painful to watch
>THIS is a 10/10 Aryan specimen according to white people
I always plan how to handle my garbage.
My theory was that Snoke was just some jobber who contributed nothing to this retarded story.
if you have to say this in the first place to placate fears that's a pretty bad sign
They say that now. It's bad for the box office if they admit that nobody had clue as to the direction and narrative arc of this trilogy and they still don't.
> Rey. What the fuck is her powers?
She is Kylo's equal and his love interest. That's all. Her powers are whatever seems feminist and empowering on screen. It will not be explained further.
>Is she a Sith creation?
No. Her drunk parents abandoned her on Jakku.
>Was Kylo Ren lying about her?
Yes. Kylo lied. Rey killed her parents. Everything else Kylo said was true.
>Will she ever be a jedi now that Luke is dead?
No. She won't be a Jedi. Kylo is the last Jedi.
There. Now fuck off.
Only Kylo's character arc was planned and set in stone. Rest was made up as they went along.
Who care? Movie with still make 1 billion.
literally this
TLJ was garbage but Jew Jew's "mystery boxes" can get fucked. TFA was utterly uninspired and I'm glad Rian took a big dump on Snoke's dead body.
it's okay guys the last movie of the prequels was by far the best one (even if it still sucks)
That means ep 9 is going to be the best one!!
I wish TLJ was as good as TFA and I'd be excited for this movie. ROTS was my favorite star wars movie growing up, shame how TLJ pales in comparison to the prequels
Underrated post desu
>Finn in general
What mystery is there?
>The fate of chewie and the falcon
Same again.
You left out Rey's parentage (which TLJ also shat on) and Knights of Ren.
>implies jj gives a fuck
it will just be a remake of return of the jedi.
jj doesnt give a fuck.
surprised he doesnt get lindelof to write it just to fuck everyone.
Does anyone actually believe that?
same desu
trilogy was planned
plan was ignored
yep it is technically the truth.
(the plan was to make money btw)
>What mystery is there?
What exactly his purpose being in the story is at all.