Is Luke Skywalker a badass?

It's dbz-tier bullshit, the power creep quickly became absurd and legends rightfully deserved to be gutted for being 99% complete shit. The only Luke that matters is OT Luke. Everything else is garbage.

Yeah when he was blasting fools in cloud city

Goddamn right he is
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This, most of the time he loses every fight unless he gets help, but that's good, because you can then acknowledge how strong his opponents are.

He used to be.

>Hero's Journey
Of course, as it usually goes, he just repeats his arc. If we go off Hero with a Thousand Faces, the climax of Star Wars is Luke turning off the targeting computer, because this is his apotheosis. But then he gets to have another apotheosis when he turns off his lightsaber in front of Sheev, because, what's the arc for Moses after he descends from Mount Synod? If you ask George Lucas, the answer is, the Second Mount Synod.

Turning off the targeting computer signifies the beginning of his acceptance and training in the force and in the ways of the Jedi. Throwing away his lightsaber signifies his mastery of his Jedi training.

Yeah, but Mark Hamil IRL is a much bigger badass for spitting in Disneys face after they destroyed Star Wars.

Yes.
Jedi trained from earliest childhood.
He managed to be on the same level or surpass them with barely any training, in comparison.

Best Joker too.

Yeah that's why he's opening theme park rides for them

Bullshit
Throwing away the saber SHITS on everything established before including any inbetween character development.
After CENTURIES Yoda still had his sabre, wielded it like a blender and had no problem absorbing those shitty force lightning bolts.

Ryan was under orders to deconstruct toxic masculine heroism by turning the old male heroes into utter bastard lunatics and that´s what that piece of shit did.

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Eh Hamil´s a whore.
Only thing he did was looking a bit shellshocked and a couple of furious glances at fucking Ryan, but that´s about it.
Rest is cuck central, his twitter is utter SJW lunacy.

>After CENTURIES Yoda still had his sabre, wielded it like a blender and had no problem absorbing those shitty force lightning bolts.

Prequel trash is trash. He doesn't have a lightsaber in the OT.

Did you miss the entire point of Luke's training on Degobah and confrontation in the tree? Violence wasn't the answer or the Jedi way. If he continued down that path he was going to become just like his father, as is evidenced through him seeing his own face behind the helmet and him staring at his robotic hand after going ape-shit and cutting off Vader's.

You honestly have to be some kind of retard to not understand such simple story telling.

WAIT WAIT WAIT! There's been a misunderstanding. You think I'm talking about him throwing the saber away in Episode 8. I thought you were talking about him throwing his saber away at the end of Return.

Getting to the top of a staircase is not the same as taking the first step.

Throwing away the lightsabre is a progression from turning off the computer, but not the same.
as said by this user Turning off the computer is Luke realising Obiwan is right and he's more powerful with the force than using a machine.
Throwing away the weapon is something else, maybe Luke realising Obiwan & Yoda are wrong and that Vader doesn't need to die to end the Empire. It could be Luke realising violence isn't what the force wants and that if he just lets the Force flow through him and others good will happen regardless.

You're probably thinking of Last Jedi and we're talking about Return of the Jedi.

Kino

OT Luke yes. Disney Luke no.

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Brie will play him in the remake

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That's consistent with the OT, faggot. The Emperor and Vader knew Luke had the same potential as Anakin, that's why they wanted to convert him. I mean they literally had Sidious say "He could destroy us." and Vader "You can destroy the Emperor, he has forseen it." You'd have to be a total fucking retard to think that Luke wasn't supposed to be a Force prodigy in the original movies.

Wtf i love Legends now!!!

>the most powerful being in the entirety of star wars lore
who

He was an hero for a different timeline.

No

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He's talking about Abeloth, but she's not the most powerful being in Star Wars lore, though she is pretty far above any Sith or Jedi.

I think he's talking about Abeloth, a literal Dark Side God / Demon. But to my understanding old man Luke didn't beat it alone, it was going to rip existence apart with it's chaotic powers, that the sith / dark jedi / new jedi / etc teamed up to fight it

You don't have to wield a lightsaber so efficiently that you look like you're wielding 30 at once and become a literal force god to be a force prodigy.

He's not a literal Force god, though. There are real Force gods in both canon and the EU that blow Luke out of the water, like Abeloth, the Bedlam Spirits and the Ones, which are literal physical manifistations of the Force.

Sorry, you don't have to temporarily become a literal force god.Is that better? Whenever Star Wars becomes power-level based it instantly becomes trash. The prequels were trash because of this, the sequels are trash because of this and the VAST majority of the EU is complete shit because of this, prime examples being Legends Luke and Starkiller.

No.

A badass is mean, tough, and unconcerned.

Luke is caring, somewhat vulnerable, and very concerned.

He's a bit more badass in Jedi but the pulled back and only went half way.

Oneness doesn't make you a god though. Starkiller achieved oneness and Sheev still destroyed him.

You're confusing badass with anti-hero.

that he is a badass is a thought that never once crossed my head
he always looked and acted like a half-wit in the wrong place at the wrong time

what the fuck does that have to do with anything he posted

that's because Yoda probably had time in his exile to realise what parts of the training were actually important, so he gave Luke Jedi training without all the superficial indoctrination shit

cool pic source?

>He managed to be on the same level or surpass them with barely any training, in comparison.

>Useless in episode 4, only feat of strength is using the force to make the death star shot
>Can barely force pull his lightsaber in episode 5, largely fails his training at every turn, not being able to lift the X-wing, losing concentration constantly, fails in the dark side cave, constantly complains because he's desperate to become strong enough to save his friends, leaves prematurely. Gets absolutely blown the fuck out by Vader, who isn't even trying.
>In return he's probably even with Vader at best, in terms of power, an old cripple on literal life-support. Only beats him because he temporarily fails and gives in to the dark side. Is no match for the emperor and would have been killed by him if not for Vader.

Explain to me again how he he was on the same level or surpassed actual Jedi Knights? Other than surpassing them from a philosophical standpoint.

This, except with a significantly less negative implications.

When he lets Vader take him to the Emperor, it seems pretty obvious he has no real plan. Considering he knew full well his friends were plotting to blow up the Death Star, it should've been obvious to even him that being ON it would be a royally bad idea - unless, of course, he didn't care if he lived or died and his entire goal once he chose to turn himself in was to saving his father, even if it killed them both.

In a second thought, I guess that kind of makes him a badass.

Vader in Return is at his peak fuck off prequelfaggot, twirling =/= being strong in the force, pulling the Saber out was actually pretty impressive since it was embedded in fucking ice.
>not being able to lift the x-wing
>implying an average jedi could
When Luke almost lifted it Yoda's eyes nearly popped out of his fucking head

>Vader in Return is at his peak fuck off prequelfaggot

Vader being stronger in the suit is prequel/EU/Disney shit, you queer.

Fine then, nowhere is it said or implied in the OT that Vader is less powerful than he once was, everyone is terrified of him and he is an OG Dark Lord

Nowhere in the OT is it implied that Vader was the literal chosen one and space jesus, who would bring balance to the force and become the strongest jedi either. He was just a jedi traitor that was the emperor's right hand man.

Vader was still strong enough to hunt down and kill heaps of Jedi Knights

You’re talking about disnified coverband fanfic. None of that matters bc it’s not part of the story any more than the amateur-hour books are. Prequels don’t even count. Star Wars is a trilogy of three films followed by 40 years of trashing it to cash in.

Not until ROTJ. In fact, his vulnerability is a crucial part of the story in ESB. Han was the always the token badass.

I don't believe it was ever implied he was a jedi hunter in the OT either.

In that pic he looked like the kid from
>Mom said it's my turn to have the controller

>Han was the always the token badass.
Han was a Porter.

Obi-wan says it to Luke in a new hope

Didn't Obi-Wan mention something about him hunting down and destroying the jedi knights to Luke in ANH

Says what?

>A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights.