Any kinos about struggling to make it in America?

this is fucking sad, how the hell do you start your own life on an income like that

Why are millennials so entitled? Most of the older generations had to live on much, much less.

You dont.

All part of the (((plan.)))

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>California and new England are expensive and poor

At least new york liberal brainlets get financial compensation for struggle fucking in a retard state. Imagine being poorer than a fucking Minnesotan.

Keep taking comfort in muh flyover though poorfags.

cost of living was also much, much less, you fucking idiot

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>tfw make $24.5k/yr after taxes
>with guaranteed raises over the next five years
>dont have to pay for my own healthcare

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>live in Michigan
>just started job making 60k a year
>mfw

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Minimum wage in 1970 was equivalent to $20 today. Which means millennials are making half what boomers did at the same age and houses cost 5x as much.

>didn't fall for the college and student loan meme pushed by kikes
>I make nearly double that high range with 0 debt
I'll be able to buy a house free and clear soon

>I make less than median

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this, a kid at maccas makes more at 17 lmao

can't afford to go to school, buy house, have kids or even save to retirement.

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Minimum wage in the mid 1970s is equal to $27 dollars in todays money you fucking kike maggot

THE ENTIRE NATION HAS TAKEN A 40-50% PAYCUT, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT NIGGER?!

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That's because everything costs double in Australia. Don't you savages pay like sixteen bucks for a Big Mac?

Gay

living the american dream

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stop being a nigger

Sad future is I see a lot of Millennials never retiring so there will just be seniors everywhere working normal jobs.

You make 40k a year and you're boasting?

He's obviously comparing the same currency and not USD with AUSD, you retard.

Milk is $2 for 2L (half gallon?)
Bread you can get for like 80c at the supermarkets

Tech is usually the expensive part but only like Apple

Big mac is like $5 something burger, $10.50 large meal

Min wage just went up too

>The commission's annual review decision takes the minimum wage to $740.80 a week or $19.49 an hour.

Retail is $37/hour or something stupid on sundays

I work in yurop for an outsourcing US company and make more than that chart's maximum, and I don't even have a degree yet
It's easy as fuck to get a job, the problem with median salary is it includes the retarded degrees that don't reflect the market's needs for anything, and thus make no money

Stand up, I think I need to fight you.

Society is collapsing before millenials are seniors

Don't plan your entire life on McDonalds income? Fucking triggers me when fags write articles about "how am I supposed to support my 4 kids on miniumum wage without a husband boohoo the system ain't fair"

>US economy crashes in 2009
>people expect things to remain the same
Just because they said the crisis was over doesn't mean it's over you retards

what the fuck

live within your means

The global economy won't make it that long. We're running out of resources. China's entire economy is built on making empty ghost cities with empty homes no one lives in. They borrow shit loads of money to make these pointless housing projects just to keep their economy going. Eventually that's going to crash and take down every other economy with it. The 2007 collapse was an appetizer for the big one. Most people are going to go back to levels of poverty not seen in centuries in the West. We'll consider the people from the Great Depression as rich by the new standards.

jewish new world order moving into their endgame

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I said double that range

you have to pay for healthcare too retard

>is built on making empty ghost cities with empty homes no one lives
Not true. People live in those cities now.
Retarded fags reported nonsense and even dumber fags such as yourself believed it.

I don’t got no job cuz nobody will hire me because I’m too autisticy (I should prolly sue or something for discrimination huh?) that look like a lot of money to my broke ass

are you tradie? i should just give up trying to go back to school and just a trade job.

I don't pay hundreds per month in coverage

If i i'm unemployed or have no income you don't pay and still get covered. Doctors are bulk billed. Even if you go to a private one and pay $85 you get the rebate from the government

Gay escort. Live in Georgia. Pays pretty good.

Oh, well I do hope you are saving money. You can't depend on that forever.

There a tons of videos showing the empty cities with no one in them.
youtube.com/watch?v=TiTDU8MZRYw

youtu.be/Ie6zd3Rwu4c?t=266

That's so ridiculous. You can't look at this chart and not see the result of mass immigration, globalism and jewish schemes.

My dad was a gay escort. I'm taking over the family business. 8th generation.

>mfw poorfags

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>extended oregon
>24000
those fucking kikes only have that because they come down here to buy shit without sales tax

>still posting that abc Australia thing from 2013
Kys

same shit here you dumb retard abbo. But milk is 2.99 a gallon, ground beef is 2.50 a pound. Fucking eat it chinese colony

Yeah. I make money on the side with some hobby LLCs though

>Millennial are too stupid to ask for a better job or pay

Even when I worked a McRetail job I got better pay then this

And Chinese billionaires fleeing the sinking Chinese ship. Chinese new rich are buying up homes across America, Canada, Australia and other Western nations to keep it safe when the coming Chinese market collapse happens. They leave the properties empty so it drives up housing and rent costs.

forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/04/19/an-update-on-chinas-largest-ghost-city-what-ordos-kangbashi-is-like-today/#1081c9832327
Read instead of watching 6 year old videos, you mongoloid.

>TFW making $200k at 24

The real joke from that map is that you can actually live in Montana with $18k a year, but you sure as fuck can't with $21k in Cali (or $50k for that matter)

>some hobby LLCs
How do I get to this level of chadditude

but we make $20/h you dumb retard lmao

Finished pharmacy School like 2 years ago and landed a staff job at Walmart for 65/hr. I guess I'm doing ok, my scholarships prevented any undergrad loans and I lucked out when my aunt left money for me in her will so I was able to keep my pharmacy debt below 100k. two years before I'm 30 so hopefully I can buy a house by then

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>h-hey c-can I get a rai-
>you're fired

Its not really pacos fault house prices are up, its the devaluation of the dollar and foreign investors sucking up all the houses. Along with jews making giant bubbles.

I know, I was counting that as part of globalism.

I'm at $150k with an electrical engineering degree, what's your major?

>make twice what the median millennials are making in my state
>still feel like a failure

>our country is bad from all these other western countries
>what makes the difference
>the republican party
>best keep voting them in

This. For most of the midwest states you can actually live alright on that pay but for the bigger meme cities you'd actually be homeless.

t. Missouri

>tfw make high 7 figures at 18

Literally not an argument, I told you the prices we have almost the same shit. But hey you can keep acting like a dumb retard all you want. Ill enjoy my cheaper housing while your shitty studio in the city is 1k a month or some shit in melbourne. You fucking tiny prison island nigger.

>every state especially california is just made out of cities
Fly over cucks once again showing how stupid they are

Mass immigration has an influence on the cost of housing for sure. More people=more demand=higher costs. This is mostly applicable to the cost of renting, but if houses are too expensive to buy, that's what you're stuck with. Housing in general is a shitshow.

>tfw I go on the internet and lie

?????

>chink can't deny the empty cities
Did you even read your link? Says it was a city built for 5 million people and it only has 100K residents now. Most of the homes are still vacant.
>“Another fact is that Kangbashi still looks like a ghost city even now, with 100,000 people here," Wang concurred.

Seriously thinking about killing myself about the thought of having $20k in student loan debt and I'm only halfway finished with my business degree in finance. I literally have nothing except $200 in liquid assets. I'm honestly discouraged about pursuing my degree further and don't feel capable of handling a trade to live modest life. I can only think of some kind of practical job like CIT.

cant wait to kill boomers like you

telling me prices like that aren't helping, it's not even cheap/cheaper

how is $1000/m bad for a shit place? You earn like $3200/m min wage, work weekend with penalty rates and it's like $3400.

>jealous poorfag
Kys

millennials are just lazy bro, you just need to get a better job :)

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$20K isn't too bad. I've heard of much worse. Not going to lie, the job market is fucking tough out here in the real world but you can still make it. Having contacts matters more than ever now since most jobs are gained by knowing someone or getting hired from the inside by a company that already knows you.

>looking at electrical pages of some blueprints for a remodel
>engineer/architect drew a fire sprinkler head inside/above a lay-in light fixture
The fuck do you guys do to mess up like this?

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>still spouting faggotry from his 6 year old video
Not filled up yet. Oof, kys
What was your retarded video saying again?
>China's housing bubble will burst in 2017
Again kys
>it's not empty
>d-doesn't count
Kys

It's rather dumb to see posts like this
when it's supremely obvious that
A) that's because of people flocking to major cities in which the housing is already mostly taken up and thus the price can get retardedly high without dwindling the demand, while flyover states are cheap as fuck to buy a house in
B) boomers will only live for so long and when they do all those houses they bought in the 60s and 70s will be sold out eventually, thus creating more competition and driving prices down
People that look to buy houses now in meme cities like NY are the equivalent of buy high sell low autists

Millenials are a hopeless generation. Even Zoomers are starting to look better equipped for the job market.

Australia world be the best country in the world if they had gun rights like ours

How much do you want to bet this is because Millenials are too dumb to live outside the city driving up prices

They are this eras Lost Generation.

Next is war

Universities are getting shittier by the day, and you can easily see that in STEM related fields where zoomers don't know their shit and yet have a degree
And then they complain that their degree cost "too much but it doesn't help their careers"
People born after 2000 should bail on uni and start working at 16-18 as interns imo, they'll make it much farther that way

Your 3 year old article said the same thing.
>city meant for $5 million
>government couldn't even pay people to live there
>Less than 5% inhabited
Even Detroit is better than that. That makes Detroit roughly 40x more populated.

>tfw your a construction inspector for a state dot
>your job is juts like shitposting where you point out something the contractor did wrong and watch the firestorm of asshurt flow
>you spend your nights shitposting on Yea Forums and in real life

Find needs and fill them. It's especially good if your product/service helps other businesses.
I know that's not the greatest answer, but my stuff is specific to my local area

I'll take it. I'm done watching things rot. Let it all come down.

Based Strauss–Howe generational theory poster

>disabled
>can't do physical labor
>brainlet
>too dumb for university
>mid twenties
>unable to join military

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>War in the 21st century.
Go LARP on /his/ or something

Is this the biz equivalent of "just b urself bro"

i do think he could if he invests it right

The military wouldn't want your disabled ass.

So what is the point of working for 20k when welfare programs offer at least as much?

>thinks war can't happen in the 21st century.
Tell that to the Ukraine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, or soon Iran. All of the world's powers are closing in on Iran now.

Me again. Gay escort. Like I said. Find out what your local area needs and fill that niche.

>Grow up playing video games
>Too afraid to take life by the balls and get a real career and start a family
>Blame everything on successful generations
Millennials were a mistake, let's hope Zoomers do better

cope

Being paid more when your internship ends

Didn't say the same thing at all. It also talks about your falsely reported faggotry. Kys.

t. never listened to old people talk about the old days

In the first world obviously

Anyday it's going to happen I swear! You are worse than doomsday preachers

>let's hope Zoomers do better
They're all polygender trannies and gayboys who are brainwashing themselves with fortnite or snapchat. Good luck with that, memelord.

How to make it in America

ended too soon

There's already a war happening. It's an information/culture civil war that's entirely ideological. You're just not fully aware of it because it's a type of warfare we've never experienced before, but it shares similarities to the Cold War.

low iq post

yes its terrible, in arizona you can pick up a studio for 400 bucks

Millenials are actually human though, unlike gen X. They know the game is rigged and won't play it, unlike those idiots buying into it.

You didn't read it. Don't blame you. I already quoted where it said the same thing. Empty city. Half your article talks about how you can walk around most of the city without seeing any people still.

Either that or they're /pol/ and Murdoch Murdoch fans. Especially white boys. A rift is growing.

Welfare is an extremely unreliable income to rely on. Many kinds have a time limit and in more conservative states you can get kicked off if you make even close to minimum wage somewhere else.
Plus, being on welfare is just embarrassing. The majority of Americans that go onto it, are only on for a year at a time.

Wow, really?

Either way, neither group is getting a job

This is why we need UBI.

The great thing about being a millennial is I can literally file for bankruptcy and make all my debt go away. Feels good knowing that I can spend money I don't have and after a couple years start over.

In Phoenix or out in the middle of nowhere?

Can't declare bankruptcy on student debt though. Not saying its an issue for you, but for the majority of millennials it is.

But your housing is thousands of dollars out of whack, you have shit internet, a ban on flat chested women in porn, and can't even buy a Megatron toy unless you have a real gun permit.

Should've never lost the emu war, mate.

You mean another group of zoomerswho also plays the "its everyone else's fault" card? Yeah like I said, good luck.

To be fair if every animal on our continent wanted to murder us we'd probably have better healthcare too.

Student debt is one of the hardest debts to discharge when you go bankrupt.

When the average 25-30 year old is earning half of what they earned 50 years ago, sorry it's somebody's fault. The question is who will get the blame.

I'm not American but if that's true your economy is going to get a lot worse real soon

Probably themselves, for paying for a degree without finding out how much they can make from it and if they can actually work with it

>When the average 25-30 year old is earning half of what they earned 50 years ago, sorry it's somebody's fault.
I thought you were just whining about millennials blaming others for their professional/career shortcomings? Make up your mind, its not helping the efficacy of your proselytizing.

It's fucked already user. Millennials are taking out 30 year loans for a car these days.

>brainlets actually think we wont be killing each other in the streets before 2030

LOL!

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That specifically would be the fault of the adults who raised millennials, encouraging them to pursue their passion in college.

That doesn't explain all the young people without a degree

Well, if anything it's gonna be a fun next few decades
I wonder what country will make it out alive, maybe Taiwan or some shit

Lawn care is the go-to example for starting a business with no money. Try to find an equivalent for your area if you really don't have startup funds. If you do, maybe try risking it on high end equipment for a service that other businesses would use

You can't shift all of the blame off of the person making the actual decision
Parents play a big role though, sure

You literally can. Forgoing payments over a period of time will set them to default status and will then be processed as an unpayable debt eligible for bankruptcy. The only real issue is if you're trying to mortgage a house.

I blame colleges and universities. Like 2/3rds of the people going there should be going to trade schools or just straight into the workforce, but they do it anyway 'cuz you gotta go to college to not be a loser, right?

Yeah but good people don’t go bankrupt because of a medical emergency like in the states. Even with insurance they weasel their way out of helping all the time because it makes them a more efficient business.

Who do you think is going to be sent to die in those places to help reduce the population? Zoomers from the first world.

You're not wrong at all but defrauding schools is a thing and a lot of people don't understand exactly how they exasperated the issue even further by having loans backed by the government, giving them a blank check.

I was literally defrauded myself and while 6 states, 2 unions and the government are suing the shit out Navient, it's taken three years just to get Betsy Devos to be told to finally fuck off.

Giving up is also a problem
Just look at all the NEETs hoping for $1k a month

CS. Currently working on machine learning + computer vision projects.

Is giving up the problem or just another symptom of something larger?

Based high IQ poster
Computer engineering degree + computer security master's here, aka a job for the next 100 years
Comfy life

Private debt in America is really high but other Western nations are even higher per capita and as a ratio of their GDP.

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Globalism will replace you. You're "overpaid."

You can read into it however you want, I'm not going to argue over philosophies here, I'm just saying that if
>you took a meme degree
or
>gave up
or
>got yourself in some kind of retarded dead end job
then you're at least a little bit to blame yourself

there won't be any people left

Everything costs 2x to buy as much you tard.

Might as well get paid in yen.

Based and red pilled.

I'm not from the US though, so I am globalism incarnate
Also the computer security field is fuckempty right now, and outsourcing to pajeets create blunders like you can't imagine
Information security is something you can't cheap out on, most corporations and governments are now coming to realize that, if anything it's about to boom hard
Just look at the current jobs available and how many of them are filled, and then look at the job growth projections literally anywhere

50 years ago was a time of unprecedented prosperity and shouldn't be counted as the baseline

you make twice as much and probably pay twice as much on everything, how much is your internet and how good is it?

>tfw my mom scored a comfy work from home government contract job pulling nearly 100,000

Years later I still don’t know how I got so fucking lucky.

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It's a catch 22. You can have a perfect credit score with no way to utilize it thanks to dti ratio.

I DONT EVEN LIVE WITHIN 100 MILES OF THE BAY AREA AND ITS STILL EXPENSIVE AS FUCK

ITS NOT FAIR

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I just want an easy job that pays well and gives benefits, but it's impossible to find without a million years of experience or some degrees

>he doesn't think rajeesh will replace him
You might as well have a target on your back.

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Was that the hbo show about macklemore making jeans?

Im the same age as you but I've never had a job and don't even leave my house. I bet I get more (You)'s than you at least.

You're looking at this as though these choices exist in a vacuum and have no context.
That kind of personal blame view of "you failed, not the system that directed you" is the entire reason the failure rate is so high.

>unprecedented prosperity
Only because of unprecedented spending
The spending continued, but so did having to pay for the original spending so the gains balanced out

If you put every looming threat to human civilization on a wall and stand back, you get a composite image of a giant middle finger. We're fucked. NONE of this matters. Every single person is going to die.

see my post on that here

High IQ ML guy here.
Compsec always seemed too fucking nitty gritty desu. Sounds like you could meet some interesting people though.
Every computer vision problem I work on sounds like some sort of cyberpunk sci fi thing. It's a really cool field to be in right now.

>easy job that pays well and gives benefits
This isn't the Boomer era anymore. Boomers outsourced all of those jobs. They don't exist anymore. Now you need to be an expert in multiple fields with 40 years of experience and a master's degree with 12 certifications to get entry level pay doing the work of 4 employees by yourself.

Maybe but when something is affecting entire generations you have to consider what is actually going on systematically. It's not like people were born deciding to become loser neets or to get useless degrees.

yeah one generation got to live with the spending, the other generation got to live with the debt. isn't that awesome?

outsourcing to lowIQ streetshitters will never replace western workers
all those morons do is spew out endless reams of code so useless you need to go over all of it with local monkeys anyway

If I had to get up and go work every day for 20k per year I would literally kill myself and everyone around me.

I already work with Rajeesh. Rajeesh is getting paid $200k as well.

As I said, read into that however you want, I'm not arguing with that
Compsec is generally fuckboring and mostly consulting yeah, but it pays well and leaves you a lot of free time to do actual fun compsec things like reverse engineering and the like that generally don't pay well unless you're top 0.1% of those in that field

My plan is to get a house and then trade student loan debt for equity debt, at which point I could lose the house and not give a flying fuck since I'd feel goddamn rich and go back to renting.

You live pay check to paycheck. Average rent in the US is around $800 (actually more around $1000 but I'm making an example here) even on a 25k salary (again being generous) that's a little under half your yearly income just to put a roof over your head before taxes, any college debt and other basic needs.

It's either buy shit on credit, get a second job or move back home if you want to actually save money.

im from Russia and im wanna die

it's because ww2 ravaged all other markets while the US was intact to resupply the world

the boomers basically treated this as an oil boom they squandered like any third world country

I never supported the original spending, but just giving up isn't really a solution either
Not everyone will make it but many still can, I personally don't plan to get fucked up the ass for something X/Y/Z did

best studio rents in the san diego region I can get are about $1300 before I'm driving an hour to work

Jesus imagine living in overpriced NY on this income.

same

>tfw earn 3x my state's millennial average

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>I'm gonna get mine so fuck the rest of society

Income doesn't mean much without also knowing the cost of living.

You did not read it
>this cities are empty
>they are not
>d-doesn't count
Kys

If you lads you think you have it bad, I'm the compsec guy and I'm from fucking Greece, if I made it you sure as fuck can

Because you are too afraid to go into the workplace and show a little confidence.

Well, yes desu
I was never big into society
If someone with a philosophy degree wants the same money I make, ill say fuck that any time of day

Confidence is either given to you for free or you have to waste time earning it over years, you don't just "show" it.

Yes

based North Dakota

>I was never big into society
but you live in one

If the rest of society collapses, you're going down with it user.

B-but muh firm handshake...

Yeah, you gotta roll with the punches some times

>tfw $45000 at 25
I still feel like im getting fucked here

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Probably, but aren't we all?
Why not live as best I can till then?

>21k in commiefornia

how the fuck do they live? I make 70k and I feel fucking poor

True, but ours is the generation that has to pay for it, and we have to accept that. Or at the very least stop bitching about missing out on some golden age where you could buy a home with a part time job or support a family of 4 on a single salary

youre fine if bills are paid and you got a plan and an eye towards your future career development

>mfw make $12k a year

>Probably, but aren't we all?
Some of us will thrive.

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Basically, yeah

It's dragged down by all the niggers who earn nothing on paper because they steal and deal drugs for money and the beaners who work for $7/hr under the table also showing $0 income on paper and living 14 to a 2 BR apartment so they can afford it.

Because if people work together and fix shit, it won't collapse at all

Isn't that like 60 after taxes? Aren't you barely making it?

In some (shittier) areas, housing is cheap and apartments go for like 600/mo. Cost of living is also discounted

Yes, the rich and powerful
Don't read too much into it, that's how it happened in every societal collapse ever
How do you see that going along right now, where blaming everyone is the name of the game?
Do you honestly believe a few individuals will change that instead of seeking martyrdom over nothing in return?

Where do you live? Cost of living varies so much that 45k in one region only goes as far as 25k in others.

How the fuck are you supposed to save up and buy a house in this day and age?
I'm not a communist but it might be time to start seizing land and freezing housing prices if this keeps up

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Imagine being this naive and bluepilled. Shit is totally fucked and there is nothing any of us can do to stop it. Best case scenario is slowing it down but even that's not really an improvement. I'd rather everything burn to the ground while I'm still young enough to maybe survive it and come out the other end.

>Where do you live?
midwest, so its relatively cheap