Frasier best sitcom

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it's full of homos, daphne's mother is in it, daphne's cockney brothers are in it, any and all of martin's 'girlfriends' are in it.
frasier is very funny though.

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>change my mind
OK... it's not

>good writing
>good acting
>original premise
>silly but self aware
>beloved by critics and audiences alike

hm u were saying??

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To be fair, you have to have a very IQ to understand Frasier

this beats them both imho

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newsradio or 30 rock

if you think you’re better than everyone it’s the perfect show

I can't, because you're absolutely correct.

Cringe.

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The best thing to come out of seinfeld is Seinfeld 2000. The actual show is trash.

Based.

the only good thing to come out of Seinfeld was Curb Your Enthusiasm and that racist Kramer rant. Jerry Seinfeld himself can't be funny for the life of him, the only funny character in the show was George, who was based off Larry David.

>30 rock
Turbo cringe.

>not finding Kramer funny

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at that point you'd have a better time watching Sunny which is my personal favorite, I like it even more than Curb Your Enthusiasm.

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Wut. 90% of the humor is at Frasiers expense. He’s a self important windbag. That’s why it’s funny

It's Always Sunny is basically Seinfeld with sub-humans. I like both.

>implying the show filled with jews isn't the most subhuman

Seinfeld is Seinfeld with subhumans, my digited friend.

Two gay brothers mincing around? No thanks

I actually have yet to see Seinfeld, and I have only seen Frasier, not Cheers. I feel like I am so used to Sunny and Curb I feel like it would be too low energy for me to tolerate.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Angell
>David Lawrence Angell (April 10, 1946 – September 11, 2001) was an American television producer and screenwriter. Angell won multiple Emmy Awards as the creator and executive producer, along with Peter Casey and David Lee, of the sitcoms Wings and Frasier. Angell and his wife Lynn both died heading home from their vacation on Cape Cod aboard American Airlines Flight 11, the first plane to hit the World Trade Center during the September 11 attacks

Curb is literally about a jew who lives in Los Angeles and ends up fucking a Palestinian woman who makes terrorist references in bed. Shit's brilliant

Not trying to change your mind, I love Frasier. Can't believe this happened to the them

Larry David is such a self-hating Jew that he's based and an honorary gentile. If the holocaust ever happened again but for real this time, I'd definitely let him hide in my attic.

There's so many episodes where he bags Jews and Judaism.

The show changed after that happened

The characters in Seinfeld are just self-righteous assholes who think they deserve everything. The It's Always Sunny characters are assholes, and Dennis is self-righteous and thinks he deserves everything, but they go much more out of their way than the cast of Seinfeld does when they destroy people's lives and do tons more illegal shit.

You're probably not going to like Seinfeld as much then, since it's not nearly as exciting probably. It's funny, but not if you didn't watch it before. It's nice to have on in the background or if you're bored and don't want to commit to watching something too long.

The show makes fun of people that think they are better than others

Yeah I have a bunch of other things on my list that take priority, but I did pick it up at some point so I'll get around to it.
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this shit was funny too, though

>"Dammit, Niles. He should have listened to Mr. Silverstein's warnings and skipped work that day."

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Exactly

I seem to be the only one who thinks it would have been fitting for him to end up with Roz at the end instead of just staying lonely and confused, but I'm sure the more avid fans of the show would hate it, it just makes sense seeing as he spends the whole show being a snobby narcissist and he sees himself as "above" her, shouldn't he have like become more humble and got some last-minute development?

It makes sense but that would ruin their friendship and their professional relationship

Roz was trash though, Frasier of all people knew what a whore she was, why would he accept to end up with her? He should have stuck with that high-profile lawyer he was dating.

I have a very iq!

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Doesn't he leave the show in the last episode? I only watched it all the way through once. I am rewatching it with a friend who considers it his personal favorite, the only thing I am not looking forward to is Mel's whole arc. pic related is me every second of screen time that horrible character gets.

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she wasn't nearly as trashy as your average person in 2019, and the running joke was that she was more socially successful than him despite only being his producer. I don't recall people having as high standards in the 90s. there were no cucked/wife's son memes, nobody cared about that shit.

normie

Mel gets her comeuppance which is satisfying. Yes he leaves for a new city. There are rumors of a Frasier reboot with Kelsey Grammer in the works where Freddy begins to act like his Martin

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*Like his grandfather Martin

why did they have to improv though? and he's palpably ugly i dont want to stare at ugly people.

That sounds pretty interesting, although I recall Fred being kind of sickly/wimpy more like his dad and he was raised by Lilith, so if they wouldn't be spinning that around like he was overcompensating for all of that, I don't see how they could pull it off and make the characters seem like themselves, or have any sort of goals to pursue.

>and he's palpably ugly i dont want to stare at ugly people.
then go watch Skins, Glee, or some other shit for highschoolers.

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I think it was more along the lines of that the son is rebellious to their overbearing father and mother and adopts the lifestyle of his grandfather. A sort of tribute to John Mahoney

>overbearing
they barely spend any time together? in the show he sees his kid like what, 5 times?

You're proving his point.

>hah! what do you mean it's a show for people who think they're better than others? it's a show about bringing self-aggrandizing blowhards down a peg, something I particularly enjoy, since I am not one myself! I don't see the irony in this at all!

His parents are both Psychiatrists, and with Lilith as his main caretaker you could see how he could rebel. Imagine both your parents psychoanalyzing your every move

if my parents were Fred's parents I'd probably become a crazy anpriv and live like an alcoholic shaman in the woods.

or i could watch frasier or seinfeld where there aren't people that are palpably ugly in way that isnt cute. honestly what a garbage take bud

There is plenty comedy laughing at the common man, and the one where it makes fun of socialites you think it's just for them?

Then stop staring at yourself in the mirror user

just stick to The Originals lol

go to sleep Graham, you have essays to mark

that was mean, bud

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Well that's what I'm saying. They are just rumors but it makes sense for him to adopt his grandfather's ways and is a nice tribute to John Mahoney and the character he played

You're right, I'm sorry user.

peak comfy kino

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Oh wow he only died last year? Why did I not hear about that? And ... he was English? Why did I not know that either?

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newman and george were fat and cute. jerry was average but he dressed well. larry david is just appalling an appalling jew with no ass. if you think not having an ugly star is just as important as writing in tv shows then youre a normie

HE NEVER GOT A STICKY

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>write Seinfeld
>base George off of yourself
>write another sitcom about you playing yourself
so he should have cast someone else as himself, this second time around? also, he's an old man, he knows what he looks like, why and how would you ever consider this important enough to mention?

Both shows encourage the Jews. Frasier literally knocked up a Jew, making his only offspring a Jew.

because it's funny

>mfw I realize I am posting in a haunted thread

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>low energy
Found the zoomer

no my parents just did a lot of coke

The Big Bang Theory

Daily reminder.

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>newsradio
Patrician

based and bazingapilled

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My mind broke reading that.

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huh

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what did he mean by this?

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WHy is his name Kelsey Grammar if he can't spell his last name right lol

this also, drives me absolutely insane. it's probably just Irish or German though

Main Mommys love this guy

Thoughts on the leaked reboot script?

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BASED

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I never understood the appeal of this show.
Not funny at all

That's dark.

>wouldwatch/10

>30 Rock

if you can only count seasons 6 and 7, then yeah maybe

the correct answer is American Dad

I just wish they could get another jack russel terrier. I had one as a kid and they are smart. Smarter than you would think

Season 3 is and some of the later episodes put it under cheers and Seinfeld