Why were they all white in the fellowship?

Why do zoomers constantly mix facism and far right with biology and traditionalism?

>Tfw there's no blaxploitation film called "Niggas of da Rang" parody of Fellowship

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>he hated /pol/
If your grandparents posted here, you would be calling them /pol/

>"Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. My great-great-grandfather came to England in the eighteenth century from Germany: the main part of my descent is therefore purely English, and I am an English subject — which should be sufficient. I have been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which I served in the English army. I cannot, however, forbear to comment that if impertinent and irrelevant inquiries of this sort are to become the rule in matters of literature, then the time is not far distant when a German name will no longer be a source of pride.
>Your enquiry is doubtless made in order to comply with the laws of your own country, but that this should be held to apply to the subjects of another state would be improper, even if it had (as it has not) any bearing whatsoever on the merits of my work or its sustainability for publication, of which you appear to have satisfied yourselves without reference to my Abstammung." ― Letter 30 — Written directly to Tolkien's German publishers.

>“I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history – true or feigned– with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.”

>biology
>wholly pernicious and unscientific race-doctrine

Keep spinning /pol/.

>that he really hated black people and Jews too.
I didn't say that though , in fact I explicitly said the opposite :/

He was still a racist though. He believed in racialism, he believed in biological determinism, and was ethnocentric.

>Traditionalism isnt far right
It's about as reactionary as you can get. It's more right wing than fascism

>Race doctrine is unscientific and pernicious
No, it's still a legitimate claim within biology around the world.

>He was still a racist though. He believed in racialism, he believed in biological determinism, and was ethnocentric.

Great let's see the excerpts of his letters saying that.

>He hated /pol/
Yet all the non-whites in the books are more primitive, violent and supporters of Sauron and his evil like those Indian looking fags. I'd say Tolkein was based and that you're a faggot.

I mean, all your letters have done is prove that he doesn't hate people from being different. That doesn't mean he thinks of people in purely egalitarian means in terms of their ancestry or culture, in fact within the letter where he decries nazism he still implies he has pride for being both English and German. Which is ethnocentrism

Then there is the way he describes the ugliness of orcs

>squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, with wide mouths and slant eyes; in fact degraded and repulsive versions of the (to Europeans) least lovely Mongol-types."(Letter 210)

Yeah, ethnocentrism and racialism. Of course I'm going to guess your some raging liberal who just can't stand disagreeing with people about anything so this might be a shock to you. Here's some advice: grow up

>he didn't know elfs are real
Wew lad, watch yourself

Mythological past*

Blacks for example have been in Britain since at least Roman days. They brought tools, infrastructure and hygiene to the British Isles.

Tolkien fails to grasp how diverse Europe has been since its beginning. Instead he chooses to opt for a racist divisive approach which paints European whites as a kind of noble but troubled race trying to hold the line against an Eastern race of plundering savage slavers called Orcs.

While anthropologically, culturally, literary and historically interesting when studying nationalist and racist mythos, as a piece of entertainment it is only right that in future adaptations (such as by Amazon) diversity will come to the foreground. We will never again return to the age of exclusion and division.

It does not mean that the Lord of the Rings movies from the early 2000's aren't good. They're decent flicks in their own right. But they are also a relic of a bygone age.

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Everyone prior to a few years ago was racist/sexist/whateverphobic. It's an ever moving window so you can denounce anyone at anytime.

>Blacks for example have been in Britain since at least Roman days. They brought tools, infrastructure and hygiene to the British Isles.
Pffffttttt hahahahaha

What word are they talking about?

They don't even have tools, hygiene, or infrastructure now.

Dude, how has centuries old Roman (literal) propoganda about the Celts being unclean dirt grovellers survived in our perception to this day?

>atanari
>white

bound to get a few bites

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I believe it's an Elvish word.

Tolkien would beat people like you with a belt if he saw how faggoty you are

because they were made by a Russian guy a century ago, he wrote about what he knew. instead of doing what modern writers do shilling their imagined versions of how poc live.

>Orcs look like ugky Asian people.

Lol what the fuck does that have to do with ethnocentrism or "racialism"? Tell me where in that obe sentence he espouses those ideas. And what about biological determinism? I have quotes of Tolkien EXPLICITLY rejecting racism, apartheid, and anti-semitism and all you can do is desperately project as many of your /pol/ ideologies as you can into one sentence.

>Of course I'm going to guess your some raging liberal who just can't stand disagreeing with people about anything so this might be a shock to you.

I'm not the one so desperate to put Tolkien into a neat little box to define what he'd think about politics half a century after he died. I never called him a liberal!

>Here's some advice: grow up

Woah nice badass finisher.

i love this pasta

>anglos
>european
Kek

He killed a lot of /pol/acks in Spain.

How come poltards can't fathom that aboslutely no one likes them but but themselves? I'm a far right wing ultranationalist that despises non-whites in white countries and I hate /pol/. They're a bunch of manchild neo nazi women haters clutching their pearls about getting punched for saying nigger in front of niggers and having mental breakdowns whenever a non-white is portrayed in one of their capeshits or vidya. All they do is piss and moan about things that don't matter and talk tough before running away from things that do matter. If there was a Spanish Civil war type situation I'd refuse to fight alongside poltards, though I wouldn't even have to worry about that because no one from /pol/ would even show up.

You mean niggas of da bling

>blacks for example have been in Britain since at least Roman days. They brought tools, infrastructure and hygiene to the British Isles
In your fairy tale of revised history for the sake of political agenda, do they say why Africa lack all of those things now, even in the countries with the smaller amount of outside intervention?

>I'm a far right wing ultranationalist that despises non-whites in white countries and I hate /pol/

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High level bait

was sauron a metaphor for nigger?

>wholly pernicious and unscientific race-doctrine
Eventually you'll learn that wanting things to be true and saying them as if they are doesn't actually make them true.
Unlike black people being dumber than white people, which is an actual true thing

>He killed a lot of /pol/acks in Spain.
excuse me what?
>Tolkien voiced support for the Nationalists (eventually led by Franco during the Spanish Civil War) upon hearing that communist Republicans were destroying churches and killing priests and nuns.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien

Yeah because IQ tests are hard science and psychology is a STEM field. But whether it's true or not Tolkien didn't think so and that's the point.

Tolkien had access to 4channel?

He was probably conflating Tolkien with Orwell, who joined the Republicans but was forced to flee the country when they started killing anyone who counter-signalled the atrocities or wasn't leftist enough. The experience made him anti-Communist for the rest of his life.

Yes, the cave troll was originally meant to call Aragorn a jew and then say he's triggered when he asks what a jew is

I think he stopped browsing with moot, haven't seen his trip in a long time

Because the white man stole it from them during slavery.

because white people are actually heroic and brown people are 99.9% mindless and evil

everyone in this thread, have sex

Tom Bombadil was based on a regular /pol/ user. That is why his wife is the stereotypical blonde wheat field /pol/ fantasy.

How would a annonymous imageboard work back in tolkiens day?
they would get delivered a newspaper-like compilation of the old threads and news threads each morning, and have until the afternoon to sends their posts addressed to existent threads, or new threads. If a thread doesn't get any reply it doesn't comeback the next day, and it is replaced by a new one from the waiting list
I guess thread spam would be a problem as well

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/pol/ isn't an image board. It's a way of life.

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because its written by a white man

They would meet in the town square and scream out racist red pilled comments at each other, hiding their faces behind masks like the KKK

A nigger would just have tried to steal the ring

Haradrim not white. How is any of this arguable?

i didnt know dragons the size of mountains were an acceptable part of European fantasy but a black man somehow stretches that same fantasy to breaking point

Because Tolkien pitted pure good against pure evil

>mirroring real history

By which I meant the Umayyad and Mongol invasions.

In my story I do not deal in Absolute Evil. I do not think there is such a thing, since that is Zero.

so many people falling for obvious bait
ay lamo

stop expecting white male fantasy authors to insert POC into their stories. if you want a black fantasy story write it yourself. stop asking for handouts no one owes you shit

There are black people in LotR. They marched with the Haradrim.

>Damn. I didn't know elves were fucking real.

Tolkien has explicitly said numerous times that the Lord of the Rings Universe takes place in prehistoric Earth.

From Letter 211 (1 of 2):
"May I say that all this is ‘mythical’, and not any kind of new religion or vision. As far as I know it is merely an imaginative invention, to express, in the only way I can, some of my (dim) apprehensions of the world. All I can say is that, if it were ‘history’, it would be difficult to fit the lands and events (or ‘cultures’) into such evidence as we possess, archaeological or geological, concerning the nearer or remoter part of what is now called Europe; though the Shire, for instance, is expressly stated to have been in this region (I p. 12).6 I could have fitted things in with greater versimilitude, if the story had not become too far developed, before the question ever occurred to me. I doubt if there would have been much gain; and I hope the, evidently long but undefined, gap* in time between the Fall of Barad-dûr and our Days is sufficient for ‘literary credibility’, even for readers acquainted with what is known or surmised of ‘pre-history’.

I have, I suppose, constructed an imaginary time, but kept my feet on my own mother-earth for place. I prefer that to the contemporary mode of seeking remote globes in ‘space’. However curious, they are alien, and not lovable with the love of blood-kin. Middle-earth is (by the way & if such a note is necessary) not my own invention. It is a modernization or alteration (N[ew] E[nglish] Dictionary] ‘a perversion’) of an old word for the inhabited world of Men, the oikoumenē: middle because thought of vaguely as set amidst the encircling Seas and (in the northern-imagination) between ice of the North and the fire of the South. O.English middan-geard, mediaeval E. middenerd, middle-erd. Many reviewers seem to assume that Middle-earth is another planet!

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From Letter 211 (2 of 2):
"I imagine the gap to be about 6000 years: that is we are now at the end of the Fifth Age, if the Ages were of about the same length as S.A. and T.A. But they have, I think, quickened; and I imagine we are actually at the end of the Sixth Age, or in the Seventh."

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Because one inspires images of Fire and true mindless destruction and the other is a dragon

Post that other picture of Middle-earth overlaid with ice age Europe showing Doggerland and everything.

Was meant for

Umayyad? Umadbro? Huh? Niggers made up an invasion and called it "Umayad"? Seriously?

the black people are the orcs

Funny thing is archeologists are now discovering that humans and civilizations have been around much longer than we previously thought and that those advanced civilizations may have been wiped out by a global natural disaster. We're a species with amnesia basically.

So, while not scientifically accurate from a fantasy perspective Lord of the Rings can line up.

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DAS RIIIIIITE

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Orc's skin tone is "sallow" meaning a sickly grey/yellow/green color.

Because they were stopping evil.

Dragons are part of ancient European folklore which the stories are based on, along with elves and dwarves, you retarded niggermonkey.

> fantasy element deeply rooted in European history
> non-fantasy element known not to be part of Europe

wow, you're right, no difference at all.

They were Uruks actually.

>hey brought tools, infrastructure and hygiene to the British Isles.

Yeah, and then kinda forget them there and never created new ones for themselves back home.

Imagine if the movies were made today. 70% of the fellowship would be niggers, women and fags.

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It's some kind of Ebonics, i can't say it

cause it was made in the 90s when people were racist still no way they would get away with that bs now days

>Dragons are deeply rooted in European fantasy
>Black man is not deeply rooted in European fantasy
There are black people, they were in the group of Easterlings with the Haradrim, they got cut down by the good guys in Return of the King, didn't you watch it?

think about it logically

The books where written between the 30´s and 50´s and the lore is inspired by norse mythology. The films where just accurately (as much as possible) adapting the source material. (which is why these movies where actually that good)

And that's a good thing

If you're a faggot

Tolkien would beat you with the dictionary he worked on

>knows more about history than an Oxford professor of ancient linguistics
Ayyyyyyy