>2nd attempt at an American movie gets the design right, but suffers from constant cutaways and little screentime of the monster himself. Kills off the only interesting human character, forcing the audience to follow a bland soldier trying to get to his family.
>First Japanese movie since Final Wars is met with criticism of the new design and the human element of the film(a lot of beurocratic jargon and talking as I understand it)
>First ever attempt at a Godzilla anime is met with criticism and derision from both Japanese and Western fans
>Sequel to American movie tries to address the mistakes of the first film with more monster scenes, fanservice and action, only to make new ones with neglecting the plot and human element, which results in it being absolutely slamed by critics
>Only related film that had somewhat positive reception on all fronts was one where Godzilla wasn't even in it(Kong Skull Island)
Starting to think pulling Godzilla our of hibernation was a mistake
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>Nearly every movie is panned by critics and seen as campy shit by normies
>Character still goes on to become a pop culture icon that's recognized worldwide
How did they do it? If they tried pulling off Godzilla today, it would've failed miserably.
It's not fair Kaijubros. This was supposed to be a great time to revive the kaiju genre, to see it remade in the age of modern movie effects where they could do things with the genre that couldn't be done before. So far the only film that's managed to be successful is Pacific Rim
Shin Godzilla is a fucking masterpiece and easily the best film in the franchise since the original.
Edward's Godzilla is a fine blockbuster that takes risks, the decision to keep godzilla out of sight for most of the film is a good one.
In both cases anyone who doesn't like the films is an ADD riddled smooth brain.
Kong is a good adventure film.
Haven't watched the anime.
Seeing KOTM tonight.
The anime was fucking garbage, didn't like the new American one, but Shin Godzilla was absolutely based. Tentatively excited for King of Monsters.
Agreed, the franchise should've retired after Final Wars.
Got the design right!? Are you fucking kidding me? He looks absolutely terrible in the new American ones. Like god awful, almost laughable. I drew better Godzillas in elementary school.
Also 2014 was a horrible, boring film. I honestly don't know what you guys expected from this one. Dougherty's previous films are all mediocre at best. Even Krampus, his best one, sucks for the most part but the genuinely spooky and unnerving ending pulls it up a notch. Dude's a shit director, of course he makes a shit film. I'll be seeing it anyway I guess, nothing else to do. I only go to the theater once a year and I love Godzilla so even if I'm just gonna piss myself off I'll have fun getting drunk at the Cheesecake Factory first.
Shin Godzilla was amazing but its 3rd act falls short. The design of Godzilla in it is amazing though, just about my favorite ever. The human side is great, brilliant political satire with super slick editing and a breakneck pace that ironically only slows down once the monster action gets intense. I watched the first of the anime films and hated the fuck out of it. Godzilla looked ridiculous. The concept of a Godzilla apocalypse though is super cool, wish that had worked out.
I don't even hate Godzilla 1998 either, I think it's a fun little late 90s NYC setting with decent characters and some cool set pieces. I mean I understand the criticism that "it's not a GODZILLA movie waaahhhh" but it's still a comfy movie. Way too long though, and kind of dumb.
Just leave it to the nips to make good live action kaiju films. Can hardly even call this one live action since it's all cartoons anyway.
Oh yeah, fucking Kong Skull Island was the worst film of 2017. On a story and thematic level it was total bullshit but also and especially on a technical level. I have never seen so many editing mistakes and continuity errors in a big budget film. In one scene characters reference and event that they don't learn about until like 20 minutes later.
Pacific rim 2 was great
>In one scene characters reference and event that they don't learn about until like 20 minutes later.
What event?
It doesn't matter if critics pan it because audiences will love it and it's tracking for a 230 million international debut.
>Got the design right!? Are you fucking kidding me?
Yes and you must be blind and retarded if you think otherwise.
wheres the fucking gif someone post it PLEASE
When they meet John C Reilly they talk about his dead jap friend's death and then a few scenes later is when he tells them about his death.
A fat mongoloid bear dinosaur is not Godzilla and you can suck my throbbing 4 inch penor till I blow clear fluid out of the fully circumcised tip
Because Godzilla in concept is a silly idea and the movies that are self aware enough to run with it are the most entertaining. These are movies about giant monsters that beat each other up on model cities. I honestly don't understand what critics and audiences are expecting when they go into them. Part of the appeal (at least for me) is the campiness and insane plots that are just there as an excuse for Godzilla to fight aliens or robots.
How about I cut it off and shove down your throat you shit eating cum guzzling faggot?
>Pacific rim 2 was great
It was awful.
Also, KOTM made reference to the FIRST movie.
Are you offering to touch my wiener? HAHA GAY
Oh yeah I should have addressed you earlier too. Pacific Rim sucked donkey dicks hard and del Toro is a hack, his last decent movie was Blade 2 and pretty much everything he touches is shit. I hated Pacific Rim when I saw it on opening day back in 2013 and I rewatched it a couple years ago just to make sure and I hated it even more, though at least I had the hindsight at that time to realize it was much better than Godzilla 2014. I would rather kill myself than watch Pacific Rim 2
I have tweezers for that little excuse you call a dick
>(a lot of beurocratic jargon and talking as I understand it)
I see you never watched Godzilla before, dipshit.
del Taco didn't make PacRim 2.
Personally, I expect these movies to address important social problems. Like, why is Godzilla good but other monsters is evil? Maybe it's because Godzilla is unlike other monsters? Maybe Godzilla's gay, trans, or genderqueer? And he bonds with some people over that, while in the toxic monster community he never had a chance to. Maybe help show some insecure minorities like blacks and women that they actually matter and help change the world, like maybe do a clever subversion of expectations, where King Ghidora defeats Godzilla, but then Godzilla's black female friend jumps out of nowhere in a mecha suit that she has built all by herself and effortlesslt destroys King Ghidora? That would be awesome and empowering.
I didn't see Shin Godzilla, I'm only going off what others have said. I have no opinion on the movie otherwise
Uhh I'm almost there ridicule me harder daddie
Speaking of dads I had a weird thought at work earlier. I work at a restaurant and I went to clean the bathroom and I had flashbacks of when I was a kid and we would go to the buffet restaurant as a family for nice dinners and special events. $9 all you can eat, free for kids on Tuesdays. Well I remembered that buffet had like a very large bathroom. Lots of stalls and urinals. I think that's because dads overeat at buffet restaurants and then have to take a big greasy shit and blow out their boypussy and stink up the whole place so the cocktail shrimp taste vaguely fecal. They make the bathrooms so big so the dadpussy odor can be contained and all the dads can be taking big dumps together and everyone's grunting in the stalls next to one another and they all just know it's cause they went a little too hard on the short rib and spaghetti at the buffet. Nothing like another man's grunt through the wall while your quivering anus is pinching one off after little league practice.
Name one (1) word from OP that you don't understand. These are all fairly common words here.
Yeah no shit moron but I still don't wanna see it
Shin Godzilla was good and I will hear no complaints about it.
>>>First Japanese movie since Final Wars is met with criticism of the new design and the human element of the film(a lot of beurocratic jargon and talking as I understand it)
Shin Godzilla was no doubt a masterpiece those western fools can't realize that
Godzilla has always had a human element.
The fuck are you talking about, retard?
>First Japanese movie since Final Wars is met with criticism of the new design
I've only seen criticism of the second form, but the Japanese have generally thought it cute and named it Kamata-kun.
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>This creature has gained a cult-following within the fanbase for his cute, and somewhat derp-like appearance.
>and the human element of the film(a lot of beurocratic jargon and talking as I understand it)
The movie was a critique of Japanese bureaucracy.
So naturally the Japanese critics loved it and it won several Japanese awards, while gaijin critics sat there scratching their heads complaining about all the "jargon" and "talking".
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>First Japanese movie since Final Wars is met with criticism of the new design and the human element of the film(a lot of beurocratic jargon and talking as I understand it)
Shin Godzilla is absolute fucking kino of the highest order, the fuck are you talking about
My sister watched it with her friends and they are normy as fuck and understood that it was a commentary on Japanese bureaccuracy
Kamata-kun is unironically my favorite form in the entire film, the first shot of him tearing through the street is absolutely terrifying.
>All the fucking falseflagging in this thread
None of these fucking fags come to this website so what the fuck do you gain from lobotomizing yourselves to act like them?
It's so satisfying to watch a fandom go down in flames, specially after reading weeks and weeks of posts of them claiming this was gonna end capeshit. Don't @ me either. Just keep crying and fuck off.
>GoDzILA 2014 DiDnT ShOw THE MonStErS EnOuGh
>He thinks the ones shitposting everywhere were the actual fans and not the people actually talking about Godzilla
I'm absolutely @ing you because half those fucking posts you're shitting on were probably made by you.
>make Kaiju movie
>Kaiju are minor side characters with maybe five minutes of cumulative screen time
>focus is on poorly acted and poorly written boring human drama that isn't about anything
It's dogshit, get over it. Watch Shin Godzilla for a movie where the Kaiju is always at the center and the human parts are both compelling and comment on contemporary politics.
If Shin didn't exist I can see how an imbecile can claim 2014 wasn't awful, but you have the example how to do it right right in front of you. There's no excuse for defending 2014.
You have to be pretty daft to see ten word long administrative titles covering half the screen every couple minutes and just shrug and say "it's probably naturalistic". There's things to shit on in Shin, but this just shows they have no brain.
>Godzilla has always had a human element.
And it was often as bad or worse than in 2014. Saying it was always there doesn't excuse it being poorly done.
KING KONG IS THE CHAD BITCH!
>(a lot of beurocratic jargon and talking as I understand it)
You clearly imply you had trouble understanding something in the OP.
It was so devoid of love and passion that even normies could figure out that it was a senseless cash grab, and when even the average normie can see that is over.
That was a quote from OP. Again, you're retarded.
Never said it did. Just that Godzilla has always had a bunch of zipperheads sitting around talking or some woman running around like a fucktard.
it's a normie movie not a kaiju fan movie, get over it and get a new hobby you fucking nerds
Why is it so hard to design a good looking Godzilla? American Godzilla is so fucking fat. Shin Godzilla, while it has some cool design elements, just feels off. Would have loved to see a Godzilla with the head of pic related with the glow and skin of Shin Godzilla.
>First Japanese movie since Final Wars is met with criticism
But the moonmen loved Shin Godzilla and it's (small) international audiences were enthusiastic about it as well.
So?
People have always shat on Godzilla, even when it first came out in the entire world
If you haven't noticed, Godzilla is still a very niche series, "fans" are people who only watched the American Godzilla movies
Shin Godzilla is great but the massive exposition dump on the first act is really bad, critics in Japan even noticed this
Plus the soundtrack isn't that great either.
It's just reused songs from Evangelion or mixed versions of already existing songs, there's hardly an original song that's its own (which probably explains why it didn't win best soundtrack)
>results in it being absolutely slamed by critics
Critics are subhuman garbage 98% of the time. We all know this and for proof there's a rotten tomato critic reviewer who's assblasted the movie wasn't political nor catered to his clumsy politics or stances.
>Never said it did.
Someone will say it, I was just getting it out ahead of time.
Ive literally never been interested in Godzilla. King Kong is much cooler and his movies are always quality.
The original 1933 Kong is based as fuck. Try not to laugh at all the anti-woman dialogue in the first half. Legitimately fun movie.