Admit it

You thought this was badass the first time you saw it.

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You know you chop Voyager down to about 60 eps and you've got something that's kinda cool. And yeah I thought a lot of the silly video gamey stuff they did with the ships was badass. I mean c'mon why didn't the Enterprise E have a multi-vector assault mode???

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I'll say it: Voyager was alright. Its chief sin was retreading a bunch of TNG episodes instead of finding some fresher material.

>multi-vector assault mode???
the dumbest idea ever

Yes and no.

You've got more power when combined like enterprise d but unlike d you don't have to command it and the section is power with it's own power allowing you to fight a battle that likely a single ship would lose.

Lizard babies

No, why the fuck would physical armor be more effective than an energy shield? The impact alone of all of that energy would fuck up the crew a lot.

no. anything involving the Borg has always been terrible. Romulans are, and always shall be, Star Trek's best antagonists. Love the scheming but rational bastards.

Voyager wasn't that bad, infact i'd still watch it today. Its biggest flaw is it has some of the worst episodes I've ever seen of all startrek [And I've seen everything except discovery.]
That episode of the suicidal Q was actually pretty good. but that episode of the doctor deleting a useful hologram because of morality
>I can't use your knowledge because its based off of immoral acts, while simultaneously being told that he was a hipocrite because all science,especially medicine is guilty of that, even federation medicine
The show can be a guilty pleasure, but if an episode like that comes on, i'm just skipping it. Even as a kid, i fucking hated that episode

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The end moral is shit, but the Cardassian doctor was based and his actor gave a great performance. Shame the real one never showed up on DS9

not if the armor had properties that dispersed directed modulated energy

Reminds me of the Dear Doctor episode from Enterprise.
>DUDE EVOLUTION IS A SET PATH AND IF WE DON'T LET THIS RACE DIE THEN THIS OTHER RACE LIVING UNDER THEM THAT'S BASICALLY DOING FINE MIGHT NOT GET TO BE AS SMART IN THE FUTURE LMAO

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>That fucking episode
How fucking dare you bring that up

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Both Enterprise and Voyager edited down to 13 episode seasons would both be fun shows.

You could get 3-4 great seasons out of it. You'd probably need to splice filler in from the worse eps though for characterization.
unironically predicting droneswarms and things. completely practical because it was AI controlled. That's kind of dangerous thinking in the overall universe though, trek didn't really deal with the federation using AI.

That episode was really good. Even the choice they make at the end (which happens to be complete bullshit) was good. Making the characters actually canonical hypocrites is good.

I still love "Endgame." There are only two good Trek finales: "All Good Things," for being the thoughtful conclusion that The Next Generation deserved, and "Endgame," for being the nonstop flamboyant bullshit ending that Voyager deserved.

I already saw it like 20 times and I still think it’s badass.

My genuine idea regarding this is that ablative hull plating was something akin to particle synthesis (the tech used by Argturus to trick the Voy crew). Its basically a more powerful hologram, that is “more real”, this way it can synthetise rare materials with unique properties to distribute energy, plus it repairs itsef real time, for much less enegy than standard deflector shielding, so it’s also more efficient. So its a regenarating virtual hull plating that can last significantly more than deflector shielding.

>vaginal pad shoots nu-light weapons

No. No I didn't.

Voyager was terrible user.

This ep was great, it really did show the multifaceted moral dilemma of that particular situation. One can argue about the ending, but we all know it was more of a budgetary constrain than anything (how would you pay for that extra character, even if recurring).

This.

I mean, you can say that... but you should really recalibrate your judging matrix after STD...

not really. drone squadrons are literally superior in every war game scenario

the ancient ships in stargate all used drone swarms as the main weapon, the BTFO everything

enders game drone swarms are the main weapon system, to compensate for a lack of raw fire power

babylon 5 again has the oldest races using drones as the bulk of their attack force, everyone else makes do with fighter wings

hell even ye oldé navel warfare you have the small boats used as fodder to protect/harass the battleships. aircraft carriers replaced them because 20 fighters are cheaper/more expendable than 1 destroyer+crew

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episode is called "warhead". its alright but basically the federation view Ai as a life form with rights so they are not going to allow experimentation with it...officially.

voyager was pretty great. janeway too.

You'll hate the new Picard series then where Romulans are crying refugees desperate to flee to Federation worlds

Oh i know warhead, kim & his bridge-fu. Voyager portrays their AI stuff very inconsistently. Doctor having no rights but aliens having all the rights, it's fantastically VOY.

Voyager is gay

>but you should really recalibrate your judging matrix after STD...
Disagree. I will admit that Voyager is light-years better than STD but still is/was terrible.

voyager's terribleness has lots of depth, budget and crazy production and shitty acting and shitty writing and zero consistency even within a single episode. The fact that it ended up not quite so bad is an xmas miracle and that sort of underdog thing is why people still love VOY.

I still think it's badass.

Nothing intimidates like a cube in space.

Then you have a pretty high standard. My favorite Trek was VOY, but I also finished ENT, DS9 twice, but surprisingly could never really get into TNG, though I watched several seasons. Also, tried the first Trek but it was way too old for me.

But we can agree on the anathema that is STD, may the gods punish all who partook in the making of that uttercrap.

I still do and I still like the ending.

Physical armor is a much better idea than energy shields.
The shields can fail, the shield generator can fail, and the power supply can fail.
Physical armor is always there and requires no power or complex machinery to operate.

Voyager is UNDERRATED, okay? It has some of the best episodes but also has the worst of the worst episodes. I like it much more than ENT, I don't count Discovery

reminder that in year of hell the hull got FUCKED UP. Also energy fields are better inside armor than outside.

go watch year of hell or the ent expanse episode

shields/deflectors are just added protection for the hull plating. the hull plating is the most important armor. there is no/low gravity in space, kinetic impacts would not be dramatic like in your movies.

maybe try not failing physics next time youtube.com/watch?v=dCF--YOjiOw

It's shit

>destroyers being anti battleship

Youre thinking of torpedo boats and subs, the very thing the destroyer is there to combat

>could never really get into TNG
You're a fucking pleb, no wonder Voyager is your favorite.
>tried the first Trek but it was way too old for me
Get out.

Voyager was and always will be my favourite. Yes DS9/TNG are superior, but I loved the characters more, and being lost from home story. STE was overrated, and I'm not watching STD unless I'm payed to.

This is the first time I've seen it and badass isn't what comes to mind.
Does Star Trek have their own shitty Clone Wars cartoon?

t. boomer

Are there people who have actually watched all of Star Trek? Was thinking of getting into it, but man, individual series being +150 episodes killed my interest.

Who TF overrated Enterprise?

multiple times, they're mostly not serieses though just individual disconnected episodes. Could put it on shuffle and except for 2-parters and maybe a bit of DS9/ENT it wouldn't make a difference.

WEAKLING

everything except STD, JJtrek and TAS

I miss him, bros.

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