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Jesus fucking Christ.
Title of the thread should be "/RBMK/ Chernobyl General"
the thread picture is great though
Thank you for your service artfag
Phuck me with your irradiated dick anons.
Now you have to make more of these, you do realize that, comrade?
very nice oc, op. you're not at all a faggot for forgetting /Chernobyl/
Aaahhh...
MOMMMMYY AIGFHUFUCJJKKKKK
I'm mainly here to argue about women in media being to skinny.
>based retards splitting general into three
now
ehh, getting used to the bern
/ C H E R N /
Aaaggghhhh...
>german robots
his balls are toast
AAAAHHHHHH...
Rads aren't the same as roentgens
aaahhhhhh..
IT WAS A FUNNY PICTURE, YOU ASSHEAD. JUST FUCK OFF FOR THEE SECONDS.
Why didn't they just use a high pressure hose to blow the rocks off the roof
where's the webm version
The joke is that he's fucked. Thank you.
getting it set up now user
I'M GOING BACK TO CHERNOBYL AND I'M GOING TO STAY WITH CORE-CHAN AND KEEP HER WARM FUCK THE GOVERNMENT FUCK THE JANNIES AND FUCK THE COFFIN
I'M BRINGING HER BACK NOOOW
why didn't they shoot high pressure hoses at it?
what is his secret
You would still need someone standing on the roof
the vodka and sausage isnt on the table after the cut
the nigga ringing the bell on the roof changes masks after the cut
there was no graphite outside the reactor
the reactor never blew up
based aaaaaaaghhh poster
No they wouldn't, you could fire it from a long distance like they do with fires
no fap
Core chan is dead. Bury it.
Let's remember the old core chan, RIP.
Eat sausage with bread, drink vodka, dont make the animals suffer.
Simple really.
But what power would water have then?
why dont just nuke the core?
salami, bread and vodka
you don't need anything else
shoot graphite at her
based retard op maker
>yfw when why not just shoot the graphite
You have 90 second to browse this thread. When you're done, put your meme folder in the recycling bin and proceed to the decontamination area.
He does his best.
>Зapeзepвиpoвaнo для тpипфaгoв
Blyatiful.
/RBMK-1000/ Chernobyl General
It's the correct official name.
WHAT DOES THE BUCKET SAY?
>cuts boot on rebar and graphite rock
>exposed to raw meme clicking
>ANGRY CLICKING
AAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH...
arguing about the name is such a spiteful/got bullied in school thing to do
You're done, Comrad Shitposter
>Comrade soldier. You're done.
>You have gained doneness
Reminder that the Joker situation was more grim IRL, they didnt immediatly realise its fried, they thought its just stuck, so they were also sending soldiers to get it unstuck up there, there is a video of a pissed off general yelling at the scientists for sending his men up there for nothing
this show is so kino, I'm literally cumming in my panties
fuck, unexpected loss
OH NONONONOOOO HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN BROS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
where on this table would this guy be?
en.wikipedia.org
>only 1 episode left
what will we do without /rbmk/ bros?
why do people care about the accents? this guy in barry sounds like shit, it wouldn't work if it wasn't comedy
Reserved for tripfags
wait for whatever Jared Harris will grace us with next, user
I'll go back to eating canned tuna with rice, corn and hamburger dressing.
fics where
Comrade Soldier, you're done
Fuck off Cinemasins
This, wtf is there???
I guess we will reach a long "dry" period in this place as has happened before countless of times. Expect cunny threads to rise again and jannies to commit suicide.
Is that a house cat in the exclusion zone?
I don't wanna lose you guys...
oh shit new core-chan content? OP you are an legend and a real human bean
what about going into the reactor now with a bag of thermite and an acetylene torch and setting some of that core rock on fire again. could you get it to melt down for real?
>"И бoлтoлoгиeй cвoeй зaнимaтьcя, блять!"
youtu.be
Go obsess about something else.
I will read that book though
>stood outside more than 90 seconds
>probably even glanced at the reactor core for a bit
>stuck foot under a graphite block
>fell in radioactive water near other graphite blocks
>got his boot cut
I'm sorry user...
back to sneedposting I guess
Voices from Chernobyl
That cat performed his duties perfectly, got an 800 ruble stipend and served the Soviet Union.
Does dog killer guy get his head dunn kirked in this kino?
webm
>Mы пepeжгли yжe yймy coлдaт здecь!
In english it doesn't sound nearly this brutal.
It will not be made to suffer.
Dude literally looks like a Jewish caricature
>radio and evacuation audio is russian/ukrainian
>everyone speaks english
>all text is cyrillic
this was a weird choice but somehow it works
/rbmk/ baneposting will never die
ay blyat
He is transcaucasian.
>we put that on the moon
>not THAT one
>i know
what was the point of this part
Is that what Jews call it when they pretend to be white people
You clearly aren't a slav or a russian. Homo-hate is part of soviet culture. You're not even allowed to be apathetic towards them, you have to show disdain no matter your feelings.
What's the difference between roentgens, rads, rems, sieverts, curies, and grays?
You didn't see graphite.
YOU DIDN'T, CAUSE IT'S NOT THERE.
are we getting the propaganda numbers again?
no its an ill defined group of people who aren't exactly white but aren't exactly shitskins either
>Notice me senpai
this has to be the worst webm in the history of man
Why did there need to be a third thread? And why the fuck is everyone encouraging the idiot who made it?
THEN DON'T LOOK AT IT SLUT!
russia racist druckkkf pol
holy fuck kill yourself and never ever make webms again ever
youtube.com
Maybe you're fag?
Oh I thought it was like transgender, they're not Caucasian but they identify as Caucasian
FUCK YOU TRASH PUSSY
Oh I know. That's why it's so exciting. Repressed homolust is kino.
>find my memes posted on Chernobyl Reddit
we have some moles
>what the fuck is this faggot doing
>Did you see a sign on top of the building that says "Graphite Storage"?
>No
>You know why you didn't see a sign?
>Why?
>Cause it ain't there cause storing graphite ain't my fucking business, that's why!
what was the full thing they said to the soldiers before they went on the roof?
these are the same thing, different scale for sieverts and grays
>roentgens, rads, rems, sieverts and grays
Could you tone it down with the inducing others to commit suicide-remarks?
Did they really shoot all the dogs in Chernobyl?
every general is reddit
ledditors in my general? contact the kgb
No Russian.
nah it refers to the caucasus mountains region where they live
basically its armenians and georgians (azeris are shitskins and will always be shitskins)
no he's Georgian, his name is Bacho (short for Bachana)
What are those light brown circle things on his chest?
they're all jews in my book
They shot every dog in the Soviet Union.
what stalker do I play
>this entire city must be purged of animals
They actually did kill all the animals and with some exceptions some were secretly spared
>blasting radiation particles around
they all suck. no audio dialogue.
არაფერი უნდა იცოდეთ კავკასიის შესახებ
Just point the hose downwards bro
Where's mentalcrash?
No idea. I'd guess maybe something to mount the lead shielding on under the rubber exterior garment?
Embrace the Atom
georgians are actually pretty based you should read about their history its interesting
also their alphabet is elven runes for some reason
Are there any canines in this thread? Has anyone seen any canines?
Seems like they did a pretty terrible job seeing how the area is now a teeming with all kinds of wildlife, including canine.
why don't they just bulldoze the reactor and build a new one there
destroying this boipussy every night
SoC and CoP. If you want to suffer play Misery. If you want to suffer even further, play CS.
meant for
sword/regen
But the led shielding was ad hoc and not planned by the authorities.
no they only shot capitalist dogs
embrace my DICC, user-kun
Well, that's a fucking unsatisfactory answer, isn't it?
based countries
Fucking Russians man.
>you should read about their history its interesting
yeeeeah, I'ma have to come back to you on that one, buddy.
Call of pypriat with the mods :
>Call of Chernobyl
>Arsenal Overhaul
you can now be a liquidator with a mosin
What the fuck is with all the race-baiting? Are Zoomers seriously going to ruin everything right before the finale?
missing Bangladesh which is getting a VVER reactor soon
based Schrödinger's cat. Like it or not, Dyatlov is what a peak physicist looks like
Why would someone shoot a dog, before burying them in concrete?
is this social commentary on the state of webm creators on this site?
you might aswell slap an iFunny mark on this user
Well, not all of them.
FUCK OFF SLOOT
>There are sixteen RBMK reactors running in the Soviet Union right now. We have to fix them. The only way to do that is to go public. Force the central committee to take action.
>The only way to do that is to go public
I know that Ulana is stupid, but this goes beyond even that. Why would she say that the only way to fix faulty nuclear reactors is to blow the whistle? Is it not in everybody's best interest to avoid further accidents?
Why not just tell them at the next meeting that we have found a fatal flaw in the reactor design, this could happen again, lets fix them in secret? How would this affect the reputation of the soviet nuclear industry?
>Is it not in everybody's best interest to avoid further accidents?
Let me just redact this.
lost
slavs don't care. if you lived in literal shit, you wouldn't care either
ah , indeed
i didnt knew thanks user
I know that but everything looked home made, including those rubber exterior garments.
If you didn't notice, the problem was already spot ten years ago and they did nothing. There was no guarantee they would fix the reactors even after the disaster
Can a man even be radioactive enough to be a danger through physical contact? I'm pretty sure I read an article about Fukushima where some scientist claimed this was a meme.
It's for strengthening the places where shoulder straps connect to the heavy lead apron. Pretty standard stuff.
t. soviet stuff knower
based retard
>mom actually thinks strong woman was the voice of reason in this show
>had to explain she was composite character representing scientific community at large
*sigh* You're exhausting to talk to.
How old is this data?
If you ingest/inhale a fuckload of highly radioactive chemicals, you will emit gamma photons from within your body. Getting hit with neutrons until your constituent atoms become unstable is theoretically possible, but comically unlikely.
they should've wore glasses to protect their eyes from the high intensity photons
I'm just saying slavs are too drunk or coked up on paint thinner to give a flying shit about stuff.
One bepisode bleft
stop posting this pic
>high intensity photons
Oh, shoot, I missed the part where you said "physical contact". It was kind of a special case with the firefighters because the particulate matter they encountered upon arriving had caked itself to their skin. So, they themselves were not a danger, but touching them was dangerous because they could shed chemicals on you.
carbonbrief.org
3 years it seem
=3
Wouldn't you be super-dead before you ever become radioactive?
a blue blue
>URAAAANIUM FEVER
>Believes core didn't explode
>survives radiation sickness
Literally too smug to die
Odd, since Finland has had two power plants since 1980s.
>install stalker COP
>its an english dub
what the fuck, years ago I had a version that had russian voices and english text what the fuck is this shit
That's kinda what I meant by "comically unlikely". You'd have to get hit a million times harder than Ouchi - or at the very least receive an unprecedentedly intense blast of neutrons.
>his hope and life
>gone
you finns are always so needy attentiongrabbers
which barry pic should i post instead?
That actually makes sense. But how caked would they have to be to be this dangerous? Did the radioactive particles somehow bond with their skin? If not, wouldn't they wash that shit off first thing at the hospital?
There should be a russian audio select in the settings
youtube.com
>Comrade Dyatlov?
>What?
>What's that explosion?
>Where?
>There! In the reactor!
>Who?
>The RBMK! How could you explode it?
>What?
>That!
>When?
>When I was on the roof, you and...and...
>Who?
>You know very well who, that graphite there!
>Where?
>Dyatlov!
>What?
>THAT GRAPHITE ON THE ROOF?
>What graphite?
>The graphite from the reactor
>When?
>But Comrade, aren't you even going to take a dosimeter?
>Why?
>Because of....
>...Comrade Dyatlov?
>What?
>Where do you want the feedwater?
LOL the other threads are still going
OP is a massive faggot
this show really makes me thirsty for some BARRY'S RED COLA
They got some weird looking dudes to play in this show.
fuck off back to r*ddit, nigger
we know. but there's so many retards here it doesn't even register
>He could explain his immediate thinking, however. “You’re inefficient, Valery. You’re going to work yourself to death before the reactor has a chance to do it.”
>His hand had breached Valery’s zip and was exploring gently, past his cotton briefs, coming to rest with Valery cupped in the palm of his hand. He curled his fingers and gauged the weight of him.
>Valery looked terrified, assuming this was a test, or worse. “I’m not… I swear. I don’t want…”
>Boris’s look was omniscient.“They gave me your file. I know about the indiscretion at the academy. You did well, keeping yourself out of trouble afterward.” Boris was stroking him, rolling him. “I won’t let you get hurt.”
>“They’ll hear,” Valery choked out.
>“They won’t have had time to bug this room,” Boris explained. How loud do you get? He thought wryly. He was watching Valery closely.
>Valery, for his part, started filling, getting thicker under the heat of Boris’s palm and the inhumanly impassive expression on Boris’s face.
>“Is this required of me?” Valery asked, helplessly owlish behind his glasses, awkward from his thin strawberry hair to his toes.
>“No,” Boris said. “You can leave. This isn’t, hm, Party business. It’s nothing at all.” With his hand wrapped around Valery’s now flushed and half-standing cock, his knuckles rudely jammed into Valery’s underwear, jostling his balls with every cunning iron of his thumb up the underside. “But I would prefer,” Boris said coolly, “If you stayed.”
I bet the last episode will be 5 minutes recreating the night of the explosion then 55 minutes of Mary Sue comparing Dyatlov to Trump.
Some people post hurtful comments that sting and cause harm.
>But how caked would they have to be to be this dangerous?
Depends on the material. Seeing as smoke was billowing directly from the core, I wouldn't want to touch them after they'd been out there a single minute.
>Did the radioactive particles somehow bond with their skin?
Doubtful. It's like how the coal miners got all covered in coal dust. The main difference is the dust here is heavier and terribly radioactive.
>wouldn't they wash that shit off
Usually they would have; that's what "decontamination" is, and it's what you saw happening to the Colonel General dude and his truck. The firefighters might've been too fucked up to endure harsh running water, though.
>build scaffolding towers
>get a machine on the tower that can push a metal pole over to the roof
>put a shovel on the end of the pole
>move the graphite in from the safety of the tower
>or even can you just push it in
would that really be so hard?
Why didn't they build another power station, lift it with helicopters and drop it on top of the old plant?
surprised no one has jumped on the pavel meme yet
not much to be done with it
>all that radiation hitting the camera sensor
They couldn't endure a sprinkle of water? Whatever skin that dust was on was already cooked or died due to necrosis. They wouldn't feel anything.
What is the price of fanart?
M-mommy?
what does this banner say?
90 seconds on the roof wearing protection, or 45 seconds without protection.
>tether hot air balloon to ground
>raise tovarisch above roof to safety
>use high pressure hoses to blast graphite into core
Have you never been really, really dirty? It would take much more than a light sprinkle, and merely breaking the skin of someone with ARS can be disastrous.
>Cunny - 10 rubles buy two get one free
based double trips
I'm only on episode 1, does radiation genuinely melt you as fast as depicted on the show? Blokes are wandering round one minute then turning into puddles the next.
Men are really gonna get it in episode 5!
along the lines of "our goal - the wellbeing of all"
>you're done
>standing that close to the mighty graphite while million billion bullets are giving your chromosomes the how-you-do
I admire the now irradiated balls of this man
The one guy touched graphite directly from the reactor's core. The radiation was strong enough to burn his hands almost instantly.
I sometimes reply to my own posts. The (You)s are still counted towards the total.
Well, maybe. Then again, having reactor cum on your face is probably a lot worse that any blood infection from broken skin.
Regardless this is all conjecture. Is there any real data on this subject received through use of scientific method? There's an awful lot of bullshit surrounding this story. Like a fetus "absorbing radiation" instead of the mother.
I don't know but it's supposed to be the name of the 4th episode (the best so far)
no they don't
Nobody is turned into puddles in 1st episode. There's one guy roasted by steam from the reactor explosion, he's the one who's corpse is carried out later.
>The Happiness of all Mankind
There's only one instance of that I can remember, which is pic-related. His hand would only look like that if he had somehow fucked it up while handling the fire hose. The spicy brick alone would have done that to him over the course of about 10 days, not 2-ish hours. Other than that, pretty damn accurate. Vomiting and face-burning can occur instantly.
the lads who looked into the core were getting hit with anywhere between 50,000 and 1,000,000 roentgen per hour. 400 roentgen is a potentially lethal dose. 800 roentgen is certain death that no amount of treatment can save you from. sitnikov, akimov, and toptunov all got a total dose of around 1500 roentgen each.
What the hell? They're taking video of the reactor and it isn't fucking killing their camera and making them vomit from the sight? How much has the radiation decayed in the forty years?
they had to put that in so the retarded viewers would get the danger.
good times
Yes, and I'm glad they did. It was awesome.
brykhanov was asleep how is it his fault?
"Our Goal - The Happiness of all Mankind"
what about when I close a thread and then come back the next day to see that someone has responded to me, but since I've now closed that thread no (you) appears?
Is it safe to say that after looking into the reactor the best option would just be blowing your brains out?
To next to nothing by this point, anywhere outside of a few hot pockets. All 4 main radioactive isotopes released by the initial explosion and fire have half-life of less than 40 years. My understanding is that the most radioactive and dangerous isotopes (like iodine-something-something) became completely harmless after a week.
Why would that happen?
>sperged about this show so much my dad is now watching it and getting excited telling me stories about how they killed a bunch of sheep in scotland when it happened in case of contamination
I serve the Soviet Union.
No, you have to let God decide when it's time.
I'm on my work computer and don't want people snooping around after hours
Thank you, cumrad
>half life of less than 40 years
So now looking at the reactor is totally fine, just with some extra cancer risk?
Thank you.
>Sitnikov
>Received fatal dose (about 1500 roentgen), mostly to the head after being sent by Nikolai Fomin to survey the reactor hall and peek at the reactor from the roof of Unit C.
>Received fatal dose (about 1500 roentgen), mostly to the head
>fatal dose
>1500 roentgen
>mostly to the head
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK YOU FOMIN
dyatlov looks like he aged 15 years in 9 months
Unless the thread is archived, you should be getting your (You) payment.
Hate to break it to you but the majority of physicists in USSR at the time were women, same with tons of other scientific branches.
He stared at the core for minutes, what a retard
What would happen if I just kept looking at the core while it was burning, would I just keel over eventually?
Those are beta burns. They come pretty quick and never go away again.
1 sec, 10 min, wouldn't make a difference. He's noodle soup anyway.
>no Valoris fanfics
I'm disappointed
>got rekt by a mail order nuclear engineer
I think that would depend on how violently it's still reacting, as the reaction will produce gamma rays regardless of any specific half life. I think it's still going, at least...
Also, half life means what it looks like it means. The radiation is only *half* as potent once that time is up.
I never see the (you) if I've even closed and reopened the tab, but thank you for confirming my cache will be larger than anticipated when I open it.
fuck's that?
He has mastered the atom.
dude just check archive of our own
>archiveofourown.org/tags/Chernobyl%20(HBO)
I'm waiting for Pavel/Bacho desu
I love him in that scene.
I love him in every scene
Valery + Boris
Hm, never had this issue.
As long as you wear a respirator, don't touch anything and decontaminate yourself afterwards, you should be fine. You could probably give Elephant's foot a kick and be fine at this point.
where do i watch this online, my usual site only has the first episode
Beta *and* gamma. You can see his flesh collapsing under his skin. Only the skin itself would have shown damage from beta particles, and the initial burn would be bright and uniform.
>Call the memebrigade.
I've been on Yea Forums since 2006, dabbing is the worst, absolutely the worst and cringiest of all the memes we ever had. zoomers and social media destroyed Yea Forums for me. this is my last post. goodbye.
There are less than a dozen people on earth that have seen an exposed nuclear core. If I'm going to die anyway then I would revel in the sight.
i fucking hate the shoehorned cunt she could have been used as a plot device to tell us more about what happened but they just made her Jesus Christ incarnate
>here legasov let me tell you everything about the reactor that you have missed and i somehow know even though i have literally never been there, i just looked at some blueprints and figured everything out lol
>PAVEL GET IN HEEEERE ! WE'RE TELLING WAR STOORIES
Do they translate their fanfics into other languages?
I have the worrying feeling that she is going to ruin the final episode.
I'm more pissed about the small inaccuracies that keep adding up, like helicopter crash and so on that her.
Anyone know if Brezhnev got those 4 Hero of the Soviet Union medals for something real or just through corruption?
same though desu
episode 4 was kino as fuck
Id put it on the same level as episode 1
It's a strong woman!
She knows everything and can do everything better than stubborn old men.
He gave them to himself, it's standard practice
>and so on that her.
>watch last scene where made-up woman scientist scolds the two men
>female family members go "you tell em girl, women are always braver than men"
>I say " I don't see a single woman on that roof"
>silence
Why are women like this
>things that never happened
1 > 2 > 4 > 3
First ep had fantastic flow of events.
He was a WWII veteran, aide to General Zhukov, and helped execute Lavrentiy Beria, so he may have actually earned them.
than, cunt
Watching Episode 2. That woman fucking bothers me already. It's like some dope traveled back in time as a time-tourist but can't stop herself from showing up at key moments and give everyone a lecture, she's so fucking out of place.
this convo didn't happen
And then the graphite clapped
it did tho, I'm watching it with the entire family
Just keeping an eye out, friend.
Haha wow you really pwnd those thots! Based!!
based OP
if you are the one who drew the pic
Get with the times old man, we like NEW THING now.
it's mentalcrash
Considering what they usually give those for to real heroes (same things you get a Medal of Honor for) no, he didn't earn any of that.
What do you want
this is great lmfao
proper general edition
>THERE'S A MAN GOING ROUND, POSTING MEMES
oecd-nea.org
>All of the dosimeters worn by the workers were over-exposed and did not allow an estimate of the doses received. However, information is available on the doses received by the 237 persons who were placed in hospitals and diagnosed as suffering from acute radiation syndrome. Using biological dosimetry, it was estimated that 41 of these patients received whole-body doses from external irradiation in the range 1-2 Sv, that 50 received doses between 2 and 4 Sv, that 22 received between 4 and 6 Sv, and that the remaining 21 received doses between 6 and 16 Sv. In addition, it was estimated from thyroid measurements that the thyroid dose from inhalation would range up to about 20 Gy
According to US Army a dose of 150-1000+ is necessary to cause immediate (as in less than 24h) blisters:
books.google.pl
Like I swear that woman is like when they edited Tom Hanks into historic footage in Forest Gump, only even less convincing.
??? Not even a tankie, I'm just saying it's possible he might have earned them because he literally fought in WWII
Frankly, he deserved them for killing Beria, who was a man more evil than Stalin himself, which was already a pretty considerable degree of evil
You just know China is going to make a Chernobyl remake any day
You do know where you are, right?
It's good that they had SOME banter during this episode, so that it won't look that they are suddenly friends after the time skips.
I noticed it too, but at the beginning, Legasov and Scherbina explain the roof situation in tandem. Like
>legasov explains
>scherbina adds info
>legasov add details
>scherbina clarifies the scientific words
>legasov finishes the explanation
>general asks what to do
>scherbina tells him HE'S the one who decides that
It's like they found a natural work flow after so much time working together
>faggots starting threads before the old one ends
Why is this allowed?
>what is the bump limit
and yet you had nothing to say about three separate Chernobyl threads being up at the same time
its the best way to continue discussion without (ideally) having multiple people start threads at the same time once the old one is archived.
Most of the firefighters who got exposed died about 13-20 days later.
It's a joke. Boris is so stupid he thought Legasov was talking about that robot in particular - not the type of robot in general.
we had an actual nuclear scientist comment on this and he said that he would likely be burned because the graphite would be fucking hot, not because of radiation (radiation burns aren't so fast)
This comrade is delusional
Brezhnev was just a politruk, he didn't do fuck-all in combat.
Iirc, the guy who picked up the rock irl said "it's warm" and set it down without complaint, same as in the show. The whole scene is unrealistic in various aspects, e.g., the firefighter's glove is thick enough that beta burns should have barely formed at all. Still kino tho.
fun fact: they shot at the elephant foot with an AK to extract some samples
Agreed and amplified, fellow leftist incel! women are bad because they're racist!
No, the core itself is still melting downwards, and will continue to do so for quite some time.
The foot is still very radioactive, it is composed of many different materials and contain several decay chains with varying half lifes.
Gamma decay is mostly a leftover after alpha/beta decays and spontaneous fission. If there is gamma you can assume the other processes are active aswell.