Did the MCU ruin movies? I am thinking so based on the reaction to Godzilla.
I feel like the MCU ruined movies in a way because now a movie cannot be a silly blockbuster, it needs to fit into a interconnected world, it needs to be chock full of "relatably human characters" and have "realistic villains who fit into the sociopolitical landscape and have possibly better motivations than the so called heroes". Its all just unrealistic to expect out of every movie. Sometimes movies should just be epic, fun and cool for the win and shit.
Lots of franchises have been ruined by these expectations too, James Bond,F&F, Jurassic Park, "Dark Universe" arguably Batman and Superman, horror movies all need a cinematic universe for gods sake. We need an ITCU, Conjuring CU, Haunted House CU lol
ok end of rant but does anyone else think cinematic universes suck?
I just miss blockbusters being one-off stories with a proper beginning, middle, and end. Adding “cinematic universe” crap makes a film feel like a 2+ hour-long advertisement for a bunch of other 2+ hour-long advertisements.
Kevin Hill
godzilla has always been a universe. they keep bringing back godzilla to face off or team up with the same familiar monsters.
Asher Brown
I was talking about this with my dad after we saw John wick 3. I said that its a shame that every movie has to be a prequel to another one, and that we can't have a story that gets tied up with a bow at the end like we used it. Now it's sexual upon sexual because money I guess.
This. I was really enjoying the MCU up until around the end of the second phase when I noticed that every movie just felt like the same shit being regurgitated, and nothing of consequence ever happened for the sake of preserving the status quo and making the audience feel comfortable. People can say whatever they wanted about BvS, but part of why I loved it is how uncomfortable it made audiences feel. I was fine with it and had no problem accepting it as an elseworlds story where the characters were different, but after hearing about a million people trying to tell me the movie was shit because "Batman wouldn't do (X)" or "Superman wouldn't do (Y)", I realized none of this was objective criticism and learned to stay the fuck away from capeshit, because it was already beyond salvation. Audiences are too stupid and Hollywood is too jewish to ever let an original idea succeed on its own merits anymore.
>we saw John wick 3. You're a part of the problem.
Ryan Reyes
Have sex.
Eli Sanders
Not that guy but, look at John Wick 1 if you want another example of what you’re saying. It was a fairly fresh idea that thrives on its own. Now it’s sequel bait to some John Wick universe. The only pure action movie that wasn’t part of some dumbass sequel b8 that did fairly well for itself that I’ve seen in awhile was Upgrade.
Austin Wright
Blame the normies who keep watching the MCU and then blame the companies that keep copying it. If everybody ignored the MCU, It would go away.
Joseph Taylor
Mommy?
Jeremiah Brooks
Most of all blame the shills who recommend every turd Disney shits out in the franchise, yes even Captain Marvel
>after hearing about a million people trying to tell me the movie was shit because "Batman wouldn't do (X)" or "Superman wouldn't do (Y)", I realized none of this was objective criticism Except it is valid criticism you hole. How brain dead do you have to be to make, in your own words, an "elseworlds" style world your status quo main continuity for the masses to see? If you're making the DCU you don't make edgy conflicted Superman or murdering Batman your main version of the character.
There's nothing wrong the Cinematic Universe style format, I've come to appreciate it now as super high budget TV episodes, I prefer it a lot more to the linear format of old franchises that was just movie -> sequel -> sequel -> prequel -> sequel. The problem is that Hollywood suits just fucking suck at planning these, Marvel barely manages cause they have their formula and people were getting tired of it since 2015. If you can find a visionary who WANTS to make these huge crossovers movie happen like Fiege, then it can work, but if you don't have a brain and a 5-year plan these CUs will always fail.
Nathaniel Thomas
>Feige >visionary You fucking shills aren't even trying to hide it anymore, holy fuck.
Easton Watson
MCU only refreshed old concept from 1940s. Universal Monsters and Godzilla movies were ones that started it.
Isaiah Gonzalez
The Mummy might have been better without all the "SHIELD but for monsters" bits in the middle, but even the straight Mummy parts were mediocre
Carson Hernandez
My mistake I triggered you using the nice word you use for your auteurs, allow me to fix my typo. >If you can find some asshole whose competent enough to plan ahead on a franchise, who WANTS to make these huge crossover movies happen like Fiege, then it can work, but if you don't have a brain and a 5-year plan these CUs will always fail.
Bentley Howard
Saw a redditor on here once ask how they were supposed to care about a character that wasn't introduced three movies ago. Didn't know how to explain how good film making can make you care in that introduction scene.
I like the cinematic universe format for some things but don't want it for everything
Asher Phillips
One user compared it to Men In Black more than SHIELD.
Oliver Long
Main continuity is the comics. All movie adaptations are elseworlds
Colton Wilson
In universe its Men in Black. But the point was to do what SHIELD does in the MCU, bridging the gaps. Dr Jekyll would have popped up in the other movies to create continuity, the way Coulson and Fury did in the Phase 1 Marvel movies
Jayden Perez
Pretty much agree, I was surprised when I saw BvS and it was actually more enjoyable than most Marvel movies. I thought the beginning where you see a civilian's view of a superhero fighting a supervillian and all the destruction it causes was strikingly original.
I mean, the movie wasn't good or anything, Jesse Eisenberg was horribly miscast, the film felt overly pretentious, and the 30 minute final boss fight at the end was mind-numbingly godawful, but at least there were a couple neat ideas throughtout.
Nicholas Moore
But to be honest I doubt they would team these monsters up. It's just silly, they wont cooperate like Avengers. I thought Dark Universe was something like "Prodigium presents: monsters around the world" but on cinematic scale. You know, showing dark side of universe: Mummy raging in London as a throwback to colonialism and bringing all that fear. Invisible Man showing dangers of advanced technology in hands of madman or Frankenstein aka dangers of medical experiments going too far. And everything with Dr Jekyll, scientist and monster himself.
Logan Perez
Sneed was a mistake.-former Chuck's Fuck and Suck owner
Gavin Cruz
if people go and see them its probably because they want to. you should go outside
Cameron Turner
>Did the MCU ruin movies? >it needs to be chock full of "relatably human characters" and have "realistic villains who fit into the sociopolitical landscape and have possibly better motivations than the so called heroes".
Obviously not, because no movie in the MCU has those.
