What's the point of Kylo Rens character

White man bad. That's it.

Sins of the father and all that jazz

>wtf that version looks way cooler

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He is still referred to as the Jedi Killer in the FO and his current design is way better than some edgy anime robotic shit that braindead fanboys like you can wank over.

>He is still referred to as the Jedi Killer in the FO
is he? i dont recall that in the movies but i have not seen them in a while

Imagine if they'd done anything actually remotely original/new like these rather than just rehashing all the vehicles/planets from the OT

Yes. It's in the official material. Even for TLJ it's mentioned.

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ah. i barely remember that steaming dogshit. i enjoyed tfa but not tlj

>shitty edgy robotic cyberpunk design #10039473498
>original/new

LMAO

To be the Edward to Rey's Bella.

Once you realize that they're writing these movies for the twilight a d hunger games audience, everything falls into place.

Well it's been canon since TFA. And TLJ is better than TFA the boring rehash shitfest. Stay mad JJ cocksucker.

The only good thing about this trilogy is Kylo Ren. Recognize.

To sell a product

yeah i dunno. i didnt like the rehash aspects of tfa but the movie was overall enjoyable and i was excited for the next film. im not excited for episode 9 after tlj.
i agree about kylo ren. also interested in the knights of ren

>was overall inoffensive because it is braindead

and no, there was plenty wrong with TFA. The good parts of TLJ (everything Kylo related) far outweigh the shitty/mediocre parts of TFA.

I'm only watching IX if they do good by Kylo and I'm spoiling it before I give them a cent to make sure.

didnt say there was nothing wrong with tfa. as you said its a rehash of the original. was flawed but i enjoyed it mostly because of kylo ren.
i did enjoy him in tlj too, but i seriously dont remember half of that movie. the stuff with finn and the girl on the casino planet for instance, what the fuck was that?

>i enjoyed tfa
watch it again and that opinion will change

Kylo Ren was good in TFA, but even better in TLJ. Everything else is dogshit in both movies and doesn't count. But at least TLJ knew to put the focus on Kylo. Therefore it is better.

Finn was just as shitty in TFA, if not moreso.

if they cut out the casino parts and some of the boring shit with the resistance, focused it more on snoke/kylo ren/i guess rey, then i think it wouldve been a much better film.
i read the novelizations for both films and the tlj novel did a muuch better job with snoke and kylo rens relationship. didnt expand the backstory but it was pretty neat

His current design is just a Revan ripoff.

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A group of seven warriors fighting together is actually kind of an original idea for Star Wars. And a character who is a "Jedi Killer" is also pretty original. I'm not saying these are good ideas but they are original.

He is the Skywalker. This is his story. And Rey is nothing but his love interest. She's a red herring like Finn was in TFA. Kylo is the real protagonist.

>And a character who is a "Jedi Killer" is also pretty original.
nah, vader already fits that role. grevious too. knights of ren seem cool though, but i guess we will see with ep9

These were the rejected designs for Kylo Ren's character. JJ made them into KOR who are Luke's old students.

> What name should we give Leia Skywalker and Han Solo...
> Skywalker
> Sky
> Ky...
> ...
> Solo
> olo
> lo...
> ...
> ky...
> lo...
> KYLO!
> :)
bravo disney.

sauce? some of those are the exact, or close to it, same design as the current knights of ren. some of them have different weapons on the ep9 poster, but the clothing and outfit for most is identical. the first two on the left for instance are the same as what we have now. 3rd one too i think

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Read the art of TFA.

>Leia Skywalker
She's Leia Organa tho.

> nah, vader already fits that role. grevious too.
I meant like the idea of a sort of crossover between a Manndalorian warrrior and a Jedi. Like a bounty hunter with force powers, one that can use the force but is more of a bounty hunter. You could say they all did that, but the difference would be that this would not be a Sith Warrior and would just be doing it for some other purpose, maybe money or maybe just for personal reasons, but not aspiring to be a Sith. That's kind of an original idea.

> knights of ren seem cool though, but i guess we will see with ep9
I don't know enough about them to know if they are cool or not, but a group of seven evil warriors is an original idea. The trick to doing something like this is being very detailed about each character, if they're just generic shitty characters nobody will care. Maybe they could each have a very unique force power that Kylo has and Kylo has them all? Like, one is extremely fast, the other is insanely strong, another uses almost invisible razor wires or something, etc...And give them personalities. If you just throw some random guys with helmets into the mix and they get cut down they wouldn't be interesting. Unfortunately it's too late and there's not enough time to build them up as characters at this point so it's a mostly wasted idea.

have sex

And Kylo is both sKYwalker-soLO.

That's the point he was making.

how good would this trilogy be if Rey and Kylo role's were inverted?

When the trilogy is finished, just making a Kylo Ren cut of the entire thing will be kino.

fuck off

It's just a reference to Seven Samurai which is kind of cool, but not original and there is no saying they can't do that for IX since KoR are confirmed. And Kylo is the Jedi Killer still canonically.

This. Rey a shit and irrelevant. The entire point of her story is to fall in love with and marry Kylo Ren. That's her "belonging".

Kylo is the heart and center of the story. He's even bigger on the Vanity Fair cover.

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>Rise of Skywalker
>sun is rising from Kylo's direction
>he is lower, so the one in need of "rising"

pottery

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>that creepy moment when Snoke wipes Kylo's tear
>was apparently filmed, but cut from the final

They should have just made the entire thing about Kylo and cut the shitty Resistlet/casino plot instead.

Why the fuck they keep pretending anyone gives a single fuck about the new characters aside from Kylo is beyond me. Kylo is the only new character that keeps trending and that people like despite them pushing "nu-trio" bullshit in everyone's faces.

From the sound of the VF article, it's mostly going to be focused on him (and Rey), so the "trio" shit is looking to be a bait and switch anyway so there's that I guess.

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>manlets of ren
My sides

I'm so glad Kylo killed that creepy old raisin. Way more empowering than wannabe-feminist Rey's story.

saving the legacy of the skywalkers

I worked i bought a diecast fugure before tfa came out in hopes of it being worth a lot in the future

Their Master is over 6 foot so it's okay.

>they are actually women and Kylo's harem

would be kino

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unironically this

Skywalkers are in disgrace and will rise again through Kylo's heroism/redemption whatever people are calling it these days.

>I meant like the idea of a sort of crossover between a Manndalorian warrrior and a Jedi. Like a bounty hunter with force powers, one that can use the force but is more of a bounty hunter. You could say they all did that, but the difference would be that this would not be a Sith Warrior and would just be doing it for some other purpose, maybe money or maybe just for personal reasons, but not aspiring to be a Sith. That's kind of an original idea.
funny you mention that. if you read the attack of the clones novel, the jedi council go into this a bit when discussing jango fett. they were impressed by his skill in combat and i think obi wan remarks to yoda that it would be terrifying if he had a connection to the force
about the knights of ren, what you said seems to be what is the case so far. most or all of them can use the force, and some of them do have some kind of special "powers". apparently matt smith is playing one of the knights, so at least one will have a character hopefully

Seems like a cool idea to have some sort of star destroyer with an omnidirectional mini death star cannon. Not as powerful as the real deal, but devastating in ship to ship battle and can still nuke planets when in great numbers. A fleet of those as the main threat would have been a lot cooler than Starkiller base. And it looks refreshingly different from the regular star destroyer design. But nah, lets do the standard version again, but with a smaller bridge section and then have a giant pizza slice in space. And bulkier AT-ATs that look like gorillas.

That's not Kylo, look at the hand.

i think its very early art for a character thats not in the films, but im not sure. they took stuff from those designs and put a bit into both snoke and kylo ren

It's The Seven (Light), because there's there's light shining behind them. It's a test whether they have memorable silhouettes.

To rehash the concept of Darth Vader?

Kylo went through lots of work and designs from what I can tell. Another reason he is obviously the most important character, they put so much work into him. Meanwhile Rey was pretty much the same from beginning to end and they never had anything interesting to say about her.

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damn they have some cool fuckin boots

It's from a point in the concept stage where they weren't sure whether the Jedi Killer should be Luke possessed or its own character.

>rehash

I can't imagine being this much of a brainlet. If anything, Kylo is a subversion of Darth Vader, but an actual good subversion and not the shitty "subversions" you usually see Hollywood hacks pulling.

He is not supposed to be like Darth Vader, because the point is to become his own thing and surpass whoever came before. Him larping as Vader 2.0 is portrayed as a character flaw from the very beginning. He hides and plays a part and isn't being who he really is.

The same thing as every other character, scene, set, plot point, etc. in modern Hollywood movies, and especially ones created by JJ Abrams.

To superficially manufacture an intense emotional response from the audience on the first viewing.

never heard that, thats interesting. i heard they had some idea for luke being trapped in some kind of force thing by snoke, surrounded by sand or something. cant find a good picture of it though

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Jedi Killer was never Luke possessed, fuck off. Jedi Killer is still Kylo.

Even here, you can see the robotic hand, but they are already using Adam Driver's face. He went through a lot of design changes.

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>was originally going to have that red mask that got repurposed for this mooks that die in 10 seconds
Well shit that would've been an alright look.

the story would have been more interesting if Rey was a sith and Kylo a jedi

His current design is the best, edgy toy collectors fuck off forever.

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he's a stand in for star wars fan boys and a deconstruction of anakin/vader

genius concept stuck in suckass movies

Rey is irrelevant and Kylo is the last Jedi.

I still don't know why he's evil

They just look like Anakin's boots with the straps which Kylo still has.

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God damn, he is so ugly.

No one gives a fuck about Rey.

Kylo doubles as both because he literally trained to be a Jedi and is a not-Sith and the focal point between Light and Dark. Rey is completely unnecessary and not even a Skywalker.

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agreed, but a female sith love interest would have been interesting

He's not. Anyone who says otherwise is a brainlet.

And the galaxy. Kylo will save the galaxy and MaRey Sue as well, along with his family's legacy.

Rey doesn't have a story. She's just the audience self insert. That's why she's so bland.

Saving the galaxy is part of the Skywalker legacy. Kylo has a lot of heroic traits, when he fully embraces his true self and finds balance he will become the bestest and Light-sidest hero of all. Or something.

Rey will be there to do lewd things with him like hold his hand later on.

>what's the point of anything in the Star Wars sequels
The absolute ONLY reason they make these movies is money. They don't care about story or creativity or plotholes or continuity. They write the story as it goes because it makes money.
Imagine if you had a paper and a pencil and you make random scribbles on the paper and can sell them for money. Would you care about the "meaning" or the "point" of those scribbles? NO.

I know this.

Even back during the TFA promotion, JJ and Kasdan didn't have much to say about her and didn't seem interested. Meanwhile they were saying Kylo was a character "never before seen" and just one quick look at the producation material makes it clear how much they worked on him. That and casting Adam Driver so early and not even having him audition. They even told him the end of Kylo's story apparently. He is the only character with a planned overall arc because he's the main plot. Daisy knew jack shit about Rey's story because she's not the star.

The point of Kylo's story is to be some big hero by the end and a evil/Dark Side love interest wouldn't support that. Rey being goody two-shoes does, but an old KoR lover would have been interesting.

No one gives a fuck about Rebels wannabes, not even LF. Disney only promotes them in bts stuff. The entire official promotion is centred around Kylo Ren (and Rey). All everyone talks about is Kylo Ren and his relationships, with Rey and his family. No one cares about the trio.

And he will be even bigger on the official poster.

Nah, this one is pretty ghey.

>le edgy phantom of the space opera man!1

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JJ was trying to play up the "trio" at Celebration but it was a flop. When they showed Kylo during the bts everyone cheered and when they showed the "trio" right after, they were dead silent was fucking hilarious. He was also the only new character trending. Maybe they wisened up by the time of the VF article.

They also cheered everytime a picture of him showed up or he and Reylo were mentioned. All Daisy ever gets asked about in interviews is Kylo. It should give people a hint that he's the main focus.

Do I need to also bring up the obvious trailer hing? His them is playing during the title reveal, just in a more triumphant note.

doesn't look that omnidirectional

To be a knock off Jacen Solo, and a bad one at that. They also somehow made Jaina even worse as well.

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He was already front and center in the "leaked fake" one. As if he is protecting everyone else as the true hero and Rey and her literal who friends are in the bg lmaooo

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Being a star wars fan in the 90s and 2000s was pure comfy. There's nothing like it now. I hear that even tabletop games are being infested by normies.

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>Jaina

Pablo recently confirmed the "rey is han's daugher leak" is fake, so stop posting forever anytime cuck

Pablo is the ultimate autistic virgin smug faggot.

Is that Paul Walker on the left

>Kylo and his army of edgy cosplayers save the galaxy

IX is going to be KINO

ill never understan why that guy goes onto social media and shuts down leaks. what is the point at all?

Yes, but he also confirmed that leak was fake stay mad bitch.

nerds are stupid and need some fat mexican telling them what parts of their magical fairytale universe are REAL and which ones aren't

Y'know for as much as they're rehashing the OT, they sure do like using the prequels as a base for their posters. A shame since how amazing the OT posters all were

To piss off retards like you.

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kys spacelord
At least the old ones looked handpainted and not like something made in 10 minutes on photoshop

The leak isn't why I called her jaina, friend. The concept of Rey and Kylo are literally paired from George's original ideas, which old eu writers already wrote about which was Jacen and Jaina Solo.

The idea's disney used have been around for a long time.

>JJ was trying to play up the "trio" at Celebration

Because he wanted to keep Kylo's storyline a secret and a surprise.

>they wisened up by the time of the VF article

The entire marketing strategy gets planned in advance. And IX marketing will be centred around Kylo (and Rey).

>All Daisy ever gets asked about in interviews is Kylo. It should give people a hint that he's the main focus.

Yes. Because this is his story.

What the fuck happened to Daisy Ridley? She looks like shit. She should tone down the coke.

>look handpainted

t. cuck

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I'm agreeing with you, autist.

The OLD ones, not that one. I meant the OT and PT.

cringe

This is probably my favorite TLJ poster. Kylo looks so sad uwu~

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cringe

his current design is terrible, you're terrible and the movies are terrible and the people that made them should be exiled from society

that must be a re-alignment since they haven't played it like his story at all, if anything he was the backdrop for rey's non-existent character growth.

You sound like an apologist trying to salve the hatred of the very same people that now hate what they once loved. You'll never turn this ship around now.

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To subvert the original trilogy, and show a strongly darkside character being pulled towards the light, instead of the usual light side character being pulled towards the dark.

>watching Return of the Jedi at home on a Saturday evening will never be comfy again

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breh it will always be comfy don't let non-canon disney shit corrupt your purity

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wait, isn't Kylo his chosen name? isn't his real name Ben? you just described the thought process of an edgy teen which is what the character is

You hope. They very well could have Rey just beat Kylo again and end the story with palpatine being an easter egg to get asses into seats.

They haven't applied a single ounce of logic so far in chartering their reign over the franchise and managed to damage a brand once seen as nearly deific to point that it transcended a capitalist 'good'

It was an institution unto itself. Major movies moved away from it when they launched a movie.

Now they hide in december and use crowd control to protect a badly damaged image.

Depends on how its mounted. Anyway, regardless of functionality, it looks a hell of a lot more interesting than the reiterations of classic ships that we got in 7 and 8.

We're at the twilight point, now.

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Oh I think they won’t do much with that, but it always seem to me like that was JJ’s original plan. Maybe he’ll do something with that in the third movie.

That saber would be kino.

I decided to look at the Thrawn books after I watched TFA. It was nice; helped wash out the bad taste.

It's always been his story, stay mad brainlet.

>thinking Disney liberal feminist fan fiction is canon
This is George Lucas’s story. It’s not the story of some hack Jew director with ZERO story plans, or the story of Spielberg’s old secretary. The Empire was defeated on Endor, it’s up in the air whether Thrawn and Jaina/Jacen’s stories are the real ending, just believe what you want

But George Lucas decides what's canon and he decided to sell it to Disney.

George created Kylo's concept and it's been kept mostly intact. Stay cucked.

Is there a bigger Chad than Adam Driver, seriously? His face would look like a joke with any other personality and vibe, with the fucking Dumbo ears and shit. He's attractive with the sheer power of his personality. That's impressive.

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It's too obvious. His current saber is the best, the other one would've gotten a lot more shit from brainlet fans anyway.

The instability is a more subtle and cooler metaphor than literal blue and red blades. Not to mention the claymore/Knight imagery it adds.

this
basically nu star wars is the cinematic equivalent of twitter libtards scribbling bad webcomics trying make their opponents look bad but are mostly just embarrassing.

No it hasn't. Jacen was seen as someone that rival'd his grandfather for looks and was a wizened-jedi that had went on a force lore journey that brought him to a path where he had to sacrifice himself to protect what he loved even if that made the world hate him, including his own family.

That story and what we have are nothing alike, not even a little bit.

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same, but for me it was this kino

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i dunno. thats how he started but he was full on psycho before his death.
also pretty sure he turned "bad" because of that bird-sith/jedi character and lumiya corrupting him, along with being captured and tortured by the vong

...

Driver will become an even bigger chad after SW IX. Everyone will sing his praises. Women will go mad over him. Men will appreciate his talent.

Yeah, good for him. He seems like a bro.

Jacen Solo is not canon. And will never be canon.

He seems like a chill dude in interviews. And he can act unlike Boyega and Ridley. Respect.

Nope. Stay mad, disney cuck.

Lucas, Cameron and the gang have been lowkey trashing these films as soon as TFA came out. Dishonest retro garbage fanfic. The Lucas sequels were supposed to be about the microbiotic world (once again mentioned in the TPM retrospective:
starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-i-the-phantom-menace-oral-history)

Disney sequels have zero lucas concepts. ZERO. Ask Lucas himself.

this

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>The instability is a more subtle

to fuck rey

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should see what his sabre is like in the novels. smoke comes out of it when its activated and it gives the impression that its about to explode

except twilight was good

>army of edgy
is star wars saved?

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>Fucking source?

who are you quoting

rule34.paheal.net/post/view/2876362#search=Rey

>Daisy knew jack shit about Rey's story because she's not the star.

That's actually hilarious. Poor Daisy. LF is promoting Rey as a legend for new generation but everyone is going Gaga over Kylo. Her hero status is also on the verge of getting snatched by Kylo. Adam Driver/Kylo really ruined this for her by outshining her completely. Kylo is clearly the star of ST.

Episode 9
>Enemy is trade federation spin off
>resistance is still focused on the Order
>New trade federation are creating cyborgs to rule the galaxy
>Rey is a cyborg with implanted memories
>intimate scenes between Rey and Kylo where Kylo is exploring her memories and helping her piece her life together
>Knights of Ren and Kylo take out trade federations and army of cyborgs
>epic sacrifice by Rey to save the galaxy at the last minute
>what’s left of the First Order coerce with the Resistance to create a democracy

What would your reaction be?

>they didn't dig the bigger death star
>how about a bunch of smaller ones?
>give yourself a raise

Not being a complete manlet helps.

>implying that I would watch the movie

That's just Dr. Doom.

Thats actually pretty insanely good, thank goodness that pervert + artist occasionally meet together

>Saber not in pooper

dropped

And then supposedly pumped and dumped her too.

>No one gives a fuck about Rebels

So glad the fag team crashed and burned.

Ezra is the last Jedi

Oscar the grouch is a sith?

This shit looks like fucking Naruto. Glad they didn't go that way.

To be le the morally ambiguous anti-hero with a heart of gold at the end

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a meta-commentary on fans clinging on to the past. which is supposed to be a gotcha in justification of the new films, but misses the point that the old films were actually good and they 'kinda forgot' to make the sequels even half decent.

I wasn't talking about your favorite faglord Jacen. When George was making the ST concepts, he made the concept of Han's son killing him and burning down Luke's temple and going Dark Side. That is still intact with Kylo stupid ugly cuck.

Read above ugly dumb cuck. Kylo is the closest thing to George canon in the ST. Stay mad.

More subtle than a visual red and blue saber, yes.

Another cool tidbit from official material is that Kylo has to constantly perform maintenance on his saber to keep it working. That's why it's gutted and open partially, for convenience since he always has to work on it and would have to open it anyway.

Also another great metaphor for the character itself constantly questioning and evolving and breaking down.

>tfw even Kylo's lightsaber has more characterization/lore than Rey/Finn/Poe combined

kek

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If they end up cucking him out of a redemption arc to feature the trio and troll the fans, I will blow Disney up. Cap this.

youtube.com/watch?v=to2SMng4u1k

it's funny that in trying to paint diehard fans in a bad light with Kylo, he also became the most interesting character

That's the problem. Concept-Rey and Concept-Jakku were great, too. Then they dumbed Rey down to a Mary Sue who just needs to smile at another character to make them love her. Jakku started as a weird mix of the filthy London of industrialism and dystopian future architecture. What did we get? Sand dunes.

There were genuinely good ideas for the ST. But none of them made it and regisseur swapping killed off the rest.

What did they change about Rey?

From her design, made her clothes match her surroundings, i. e. desert rags. Not much is known about actual developments/ideas for her. Pretty sure they never planned to go far beyond the Disney princess theme anyway, hence why they made her the poor pity-invoking orphan rather than the tough loner.

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Dystopia-Rey

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white women fuck dogs so really it's not surprising they find this goblino de la oscuridad hot.

t. seething manlet

don't @ me ever again, roasties.

>Concept-Jakku

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>closest thing
lmao cope

everyone working on these movies is laughing at you every day

user, I like that picture and appreciate that you posted it. Thank you.

>A group of seven warriors fighting together is actually kind of an original idea for Star Wars
Dark Forces 2 already did that. That said, I rather have that than what we got.
starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Seven_Dark_Jedi

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Is there any reason why none of them have lightsabers?

This one looks a combination of Revan and Starkiller. Why couldn't we have this instead?

We'll never really know now, since Rian just had to subvert the entire series. This trilogy is dead, IX is just picking up the pieces

It’s fine. At least his name has a significance to it and wasn’t some “Henceforth, you shall be known as Darth......... Vader! Yeah, that’s it.’

>twilight was good
Dude. No.

Damn, who were they thinking of getting? She's cute.

As much as I loved that game, "Dark Jedi" is a bit of a ridiculous oxymoron.

That's what I'd like to know.

Honestly... my only complaint is that they fucked up the progression of events. They should've combined all the Ahch-To bits into VII to condense the plot just into finding and bringing back (or killing) Luke just to have Han die there, then revealed Starkiller Base and destroyed the Republic in VIII some years after that with Luke screwing with Ben to help the Resistance escape, then destroyed Starkiller Base in IX along with whatever this Palpatine fuckery is (I hope it ends up showing a Force Ghost battle and Anakin telling Ben he's a fucking disgrace).

At least then Starkiller would've had a better trilogy-spanning plot progression than the fucking Death Star.

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Damn fuck this gay ass timeline. That would’ve been way more visually refreshing.

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impregnate rey

To be a brooding, conflicted, smoke show.