So that explains the sexual tension

Dayne*

Their reuniting felt so lackluster this past season. I expected a way bigger pay off.

>Jon goes crazy trying to find Arya in book 5, which leads to his death once he learns Ramsay has her
It's still happening, bros.

He's American

People complaining about the ending but not realising that D&D saved us from this.

Incest is great, you pleb.

Can someone explain what is the point of Arya's character in the books? The way I see it the books have two storylines: the Blackfyre conspiracy and the return of the Long Night. 90% of the character serve the first, the rest serve the second. Yet, Arya is the only one that doesn't fit into either of those. She's too young to become an actual assassin and go through her list in the time the books have left, and she was never part of the Long Night crew. It would be just as unsatisfying in the books as it was in the show if she just arrived with ninja powers in the North and started slaying white walkers. So what's the point of her character?

Stark women just want the Targaryan cock. It's basic science

Primo spinoff series protagonist.

Maybe she dies in the books by the Faceless men. It's impossible to survive as a traitor to the Death God.

I don't see it. Her death now has zero consequences for the story.

She should have in TV and should die in the books. 0% of survival.

GRRM has some serious issues.

eww imagine having to touch that goblin bitch and pretend you love it

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Imagine not liking incest

why ya think he's in ding-dong diddly rehab ya simp

>King Kingslayer
Based

still a better ending than what we got

Oxymoron

If olfaction-biased kin recognition is not working out for your inbreeding avoidance, you're an exception.

Of course in the case of Arya and Jon, while they are not brothers, they are still first degree cousins.

It's over. Stop talking about it.

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I honestly think GRRM changed it to Sansa after book 1. Just some small details to point to it.

He clearly get off on young children and incest.

Why do so many people say he's Jewish? He was brought up as a Catholic and is now an athiest

>ARYA YOU'RE SO BEAUTIFUL

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No. Sansa thinks about Jon once after she goes south and only because someone tells news of him on the Wall, and Jon hasn't thought of Sansa at all. Meanwhile his chapters in book 5 are about Arya.

>we will never see a lesbian incest scene with arya and sansa

fuck this gay earth

>tyrion will besiege and burn Winterfell

based

GRRM is based

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>daenerys kills drogo

....red pilled?

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Sansa > Arya

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she did though

Lol, they expected her to grow into a good looking women, making it more believable. Instead they got la goblina terrible.

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Nigger dodged a bullet

It' snot how they feel for each other now, but how they'll see each other in the future. From the siblings, they don't have a strong bond with each other. Yet they both desire the same thing and are the only ones, aside from Bran, that have strong thematically links to the North/Winterfell. The show hinted at it, too. I wouldn't be surprised if GRRM gives them a Bael/Stark ending.

I love how once it got clear she is ugly as sin they changed the whole premise to JonxDany in a hurry and everything looked rushed as fuck

Jon renounced his legitimization and claim to Winterfell when Stannis offered, His only reason to attack the Boltons is Arya.

I felt more sexual tension with Sansa. But maybe I'm just an incel

Cute, you expect him to be the same person after getting resurrecting and, just because he said 'no' once, for this storyline that has been presented since book 1 to lead nowhere.

>says in letter he never outlines novel
>hurrr it says in the outline..

OH so you're banking on the resurrection to push jonsa? Jon will brought back as a wight of fire, that has already been established. The chances he abandons Melissandre and the Long Night storyline to become King in the North are close to zero.

they didn't change the premise in the show
Jon x Arya was an old idea from long before the first book was released, along with other dumb shit like Sansa joining the Lannisters, Tyrion burning Winterfell, and Jaime murdering everyone to become king

>marrying your cousin
>incest

You haven't read the last book then.

>OH so you're banking on the resurrection to push jonsa?

No, I'm saying that we do not know how being resurrected will change or affect Jon's personality. He has desired to be the Lord of WF, it's something that he has pushed down due to respect to his siblings. But how will Jon react when he sees Arya is a fake, Sansa is missing, Robb made him the heir? I think it's more probably that he chases what he wants more freely than he did alive.
The NW killing him is a reason to not stay there, at least for a while. So don't pretend to know that he'll be there for his entire plot after receiving his life back, we are all speculating here.

Spotted the Balkan

Beric didn't change much of his personality after being brought back. I's argue not even Catelyn changed much. There's no reason to think Jon won't continue to uphold his vows and duty when he come. Even if he does, there are a thousand complications to his claim. Stannis is alive and well. Rickon is alive, and the Mandelys will declare for Stannis if Davos brings him back.
Sansa herself can't even leave the Vale unless she marries Harry the Heir. She has no reason to return North without an army, and even if Jon were to take the north, she'd need either a daring plan to escape Littlefinger or a hidden savior somewhere to take her back.

I like all those things more than the shit that we ended up with.

People went to insane lengths to decipher that hidden text and I don’t even remember what it says

I bet this fat fuck wants to fuck his own little sister sister. On the left btw.

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If you do remember let us know. I'm interested.

Wasn't it that they weren't related after the plottwist?

>His mother is a stark.
Out with your showfag fanfiction

>saved us from imouto/onichan kino

>Ywn get your asshole licked by Ashara Dayne and Lyanna Stark in a shared rimjob
Why even live

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In the the book an army of south of the wall wildlings is gathering in the wolf wood and bear island to rescue "The Ned's" Daughter from the Boltons

he's progressive, have sex incels.

Except they do change. Cat more than Beric, because she stayed dead for longer I think, but he suffered with each resurrection. They both embrace darker aspects of their characters, get more intense. The same will happen to Jon, don't fool yourself.
On Rickon. He's a child. You are even giving another valid reason that may take Jon to WF, to take it in his bother's name, as someone adult will have to act as WF's leader until the boy lord is of age. If he survives.
>Sansa herself can't even leave the Vale unless...
I don't know why you are assuming that I'm expecting for her to have the same plot of the show. I don't, but one thing I'm certain is that she'll be back to WF. She's been thematically connected since Joffrey made her stare at Ned's head and she instead looked for the North, for WF.

Also Joffery and Sansa had a Baby and Rob "Mutilates" Joffery in battle

>Arya falls in love with Jon
>Assassinates Dany faceless style out of jealousy

tell me that's not an improvement

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No they don't change much at all. Catelyn just goes on a revenge rampage.
Also Stannis won't just vanish. You can't 20-good-men his army away in the books. And if Rickon returns the Mandelys stay with Stannis.
You bring forth all of Sansa's thematic connection with the North but ignored Jon's and Arya's thematic connection to each other? Jon a Targaryen and Arya looking like Lyanna. Jon being the main reason Arya clings to her identity. Arya being the reason Jon stars trusting the Red Woman and rising to attack the Boltoms, the final push for his murder.

The fuck are you talking about?

Dude I hate kit for kissing emilia but he's lucky he didnt have to kiss Maisie

>balkan
t.Brainlet

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Beric was brought back quickly each of the 7 times but he says he feels less of himself each time and cant remember a lot of his past life before the war started. Catelyn was dead at least least days and was brought back by basically by a paliden of the lord of light not a priest

>Dude I hate kit for kissing emilia
Why?

He found out he was part Jewish

I WW2 Thousands of Jewish Kids were hidden as Catholics many either could not be found or the church would not let them go and a few chose to stay with the new identities

I thought I was pretty clear.

It's not really incest he's not her brother. I guess technically he's still her cousin but back then that was normal I think

>back then
"Back then" when? Back when there was dragons? Go shave your neck

>Every time I come back, I'm a bit less. Pieces of you get chipped away.
They change. Their memories are affected and their personality intensifies or is altered.
>You bring forth all of Sansa's thematic connection with the North but ignored Jon's and Arya's thematic connection to each other?
Oh, I see. You are a JonxArya shipper or whatever it's called in fandom.
Understand this, user, there's no romantic feelings between them and their have a strong sibling connection. I've not erased or denied this, I just don't think GRRM will transform it to romantic love like it was in the outline.

>Understand this, user, there's no romantic feelings between them and their have a strong sibling connection. I've not erased or denied this, I just don't think GRRM will transform it to romantic love like it was in the outline.
But he will for Sansa? Fuck off.

Mommy issues?

Even if it's not technically incest it basically is. It would be a lot weirder for Jon to fuck Arya than Dany, even after the reveal. I don't see anything wrong with Jon/Dany desu.
It's more about being raised as brother/sister than actually being genetically related.

Not much different from Dany and Jon

Yes, it is indeed what I think.
>Fuck off.
People aren't obligated to hold the same opinions as you. If you can't argue them to defend your view points in a rational manner, don't bother commenting.

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I have a really hot couin. yall lyin if you say you woudlnt

Who isn't nowadays?

Single children often have an invest fetish because they fundamentally see this erotic appeal to having a member of the opposite sex in constant close proximity.

I will read the books if this actually happens

He has siblings, sisters.

So Bran, or 3YR, on the throne after all.

Isn't it less dangerous to have a kid with a cousin than with a woman past 30?

There's nothing to argue when your point is: this thematic thing will happen but this other thematic thing won't because I don't want to.

I FUCKING KNEW IT! Arya and Jons relationship in the show came off so fucking weird. The way they hugged each other and the way that she fucking cried when they said goodbye in the final episode. It definitely felt like there was some incestuous undertones between the two. Is this hinted or more obvious in the books? Any specific lines?

Yes. Read Jon's chapters in the last book. Some of Arya's too.

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Except I never denied that Jon loves Arya, as her brother. I just believe the feeling won't change its nature, nor do I see any hints after GoT. The Arya in the outline isn't the same as the one in the books.

And yet you think Jon and Sansa's will put of your own wishful thinking. And if you want to base on themes, there's way more for Jon and Arya.

>there's way more for Jon and Arya.
Yes, as siblings.
>And yet you think Jon and Sansa's will put of your own wishful thinking
No, I believe that when GRRM put in his work that their desire of a future family is the same, that was a hint their path may take them both there in the end. That both are deeply associated with WF and the North is another.

>Jon = Rhaegar's son
>Arya = mini-Lyanna
>siblings
You're denying this but going lengths to draw a thematic connection between Jon and Sansa.

Siblings as how they were raised and think of each other, don't play dumb. Jon being Rhaegar's son and Arya looking like Lyanna don't mean they will end up together, especially when their personality isn't the same, especially Jon and his father.

Wrong. Arya is described to be like Lyanna in personality, while Rhaeger was also described as a solemn person.

CANT BE BOTH

Yeah, she has some aspects but not all, Arya is much more of her mother's daughter than the show gives it credit.
>while Rhaeger was also described as a solemn person.
user, please, go to tumblr and look at all the pretty pictures. You're being pathetic and this is the last time I bother with you.

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*fans, not show.

>Arya is much more of her mother's daughter than the fans gives it credit.
Yeah, mind giving some examples here?
> user, please, go to tumblr and look at all the pretty pictures. You're being pathetic and this
What the fuck are you talking about you mongoloid? You're the one doing jumpings of faith here for themes you can't back while completely ignoring something as simple as hereditary simbology, which might as well be romance 101.

Arya ran to him for a last hug. “Put down the sword first,” Jon warned her, laughing. She set it aside almost shyly and showered him with kisses.

>jon also dreams of kissing arya

why couldnt the nazis just look under the pants

isn't her 8 or 9 in the books? So Jon is a pedo

She's eleven now. Dany married Drogo at thirteen.

11 now, but Jon last saw her when she was even younger. So a pedo.

Based Jon.

OI FORK ME JERN SNEW.
AY, I WILL PUT ME PECKER IN YER TWAT AND POKE IT NORF

There's nothing wrong with being a pedo, cuck.

shut up, they just love each other
not everything is boners
arya takes after lyanna, jon's mother
it's a close instinctual bond

Battle of the Bastards is 100% happening in the books. Most scenarios I imagine will play out but this one is very obvious it's going to happen.

They are also going to have Ramsay unceremoniously kill Roose. Although it will have a lot more impact in the novels though.

Winds of Winter will definitely come out so we will even be able to witness all of the similarities with the show. Remember GRRM talked with them for days about the endings across multiple dinners payed by D&D, imagine how grateful GRRM was for the free food and millions he got from the show.

There will be slight differences though I imagine, like Jon getting with Arya in the end.

Also Night King is definitely happening.

They weren't supposed to be related you retard.

>#/ourguy/

I didn't realize Alabama had internet access.

>principle
Bravo, George!

Jonrya fans being pedo doesn't come as a surprise.

this

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>too young to be an assassin
No she's not
>and go through her list in the time the books have left
She has plenty of time. The next book will easily be 1500 pages. Plus the book after that. Plenty of time to kill her way through Westeros

Jon is dead in the books

You are completely deluded.

Disgusting

Technically he's dying from all the stabbing, not confirmed dead yet.

He gonna be brought back and gonna fight the boltons. We are also going to find out stannis is going to die the same way in the books and get rekt by boltons just the same.

they grew up as brother and sister. that makes it even worse.

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The main plot guidelines should remain the same, but GURRRM might change things a bit just to fuck with people. There are also plenty of plot threads that were never even touched in the TV show.

This is fake. Cousin marriage is normal in the Islamic world and it has by far the highest rates of consanguinity.

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