>Cong stated that he and other villagers used machetes early in the fighting when they did not have access to guns.[1] >Cong was present at the hamlet of Ap Bac, near the village of Tan Thoi, when it was attacked in 1963, in what became known as the Battle of Ap Bac.[1] Along with other Viet Cong, Cong had prepared trenches and bunkers so that the guerillas could take cover from American and South Vietnamese fire. Cong and fellow soldiers were able to destroy a series of American helicopters sent as reinforcements to the village.
>Am*rican "Soldier": >"Hurr a shell exploded and my arm got a wound from splinters, now I have PTSD for life"
>Vietchad Volunteer: >"HAHA we slaughtered American dogs with machetes. Was good time"
Dominic Russell
>Marine Roger Harris (Vietnam 1967) recalls calling his mother to tell her not to believe what she reads in the newspaper or sees on TV. “We’re losing the war… everybody in my unit’s dying. I probably won’t be coming back.” >“You’re coming back,” Harris says his mother responded. “I talk to God every day and you’re special.” >“And I said, ‘Ma, everybody’s mother thinks their son is special. I’m putting pieces of special people in bags.” kino
>American officials were stunned by the Buddhist suicides, and pressured Diem to make some sort of settlement. Showing she was made of sterner stuff, a swaggering Madame Nhu called for beating the monks “ten times over” and dismissed the suicides as a “monk barbecue show.” Not to be outdone, her husband further inflamed the situation by sneering, “If the Buddhists wish to have another barbecue I will be glad to supply the gasoline and a match.” Finally the Americans prevailed upon Diem to meet with Buddhist leaders, and he issued a mollifying communiqué. Upon learning of this, Madame Nhu accused Diem of cowardice and called him a “jellyfish” for even negotiating.
>"People ask me who my heroes are. I have only one -- Hitler. I admire Hitler because he has pulled his country together when it was in a terrible state in the early thirties. But the situation here is so desperate now that one man would not be enough. We need four or five Hitlers in Vietnam."
no shit. but if you say that today it's treason then
Easton Davis
She looks like Hitomi Tanaka
Leo Moore
PTSD should be changed to PTLD because only the losers get it.
Dylan Martinez
What book is this
Jack Harris
>Buddhist monks burn themselves to protest the Diem regime >Liberal journalists: "This is an outrage and *must* be front page news in every newspaper of note!" >Buddhist monks burn themselves to protest post-occupation religious oppression in united Vietnam >Liberal journalists: "Eh, give it a page ten blurb, no one really cares"
>few wars where the Americans were the aggressors *as long as you ignore literally every war and proxy war they've been involved in in recent memory.
The Iraqi's were just defending their ancestral homelands, the Afghans are just defending their homelands, Quadaffi was actually fucking complying with the US's demands, the Syrian government is just defending it's sovereignty not to mention the hundreds of countries that have American bases or CIA meddling. The Russians might have taken out facebook ads, that apparently counts as perverting democracy meanwhile the US topples democratically elected governments and dictators alike, destabilises entire regions while it affirms it's stranglehold on the world. There's nothing just about maintaining an empire, especially one that doesn't serve the American people. The whole warfare machine is just a way of redirecting huge amounts of money away from the average person and in to the hands of the politically connected. Crony crapitalism at it's finest.
Joshua Walker
Liberals live in your head rent free utilities included
Brody Phillips
What a fucking autist. Give your mommy some false peace of mind so she can sleep, fagtard.
Dylan Jones
I'm pretty sure it's one of John Plaster's books. He was in SOG.
They were also aggressors in the revolutionary war. They were aggressors against the status quo and illegitimately rebelling against the Crown and the authority of King George III.
What defeatist fag. How about a positive mental outlook?
Jayden Robinson
Reminder he did nothing wrong, and is just a convenient scapegoat for dumb Boomer burgers that want to blame anyone and everyone else for America losing the war >W-We totally would've won if Diem didn't fuck everything up!
>Gadaffi That was all Hillary's doing. No one here actually wanted Gadaffi dead. They all wanted Osama, whom I still believe is still out there, despite Obama claiming he got him.
Alexander Gutierrez
I'd frag that zip and his whole village
Robert Green
You try being positive stuck in a jungle with asian rice farmers shooting at you with russian weaponry
Brayden Jones
The US has been the aggressor in every single war it's fought, minus the revolutionary war, the korean war, and world war 2. Iraq Afghanistan Panama Pakistan cuba Bosnia laos cambodia vietnam-the list just goes on and on and on. And that's not including all the CIA wars and special operations invasions that happen. And the usa lost most of those wars.
Nicholas Myers
ARVN literally doing nothing right going so far as to sabotage their own training and efforts. Diem at the head of this doing nothing to stop this and even encouraging it while the civilian populace is protesting constantly
These are the types of leaders that elect to deal with the Great Satan. Really makes you think.
Samuel Taylor
You are retarded if you think they destroyed airborne helicopters with machetes Additionally, never forget Vietcong were slaughtered by the millions just to have their country become America's factory behind China
James Butler
I may be out of your country but I'm in all of whats left of your white women, you smelly, brown, 5ft tall, overweight Amerishart.
Jose Watson
it literally means communist traitor
Owen Jones
>ARVN literally doing nothing right going so far as to sabotage their own training and efforts. Which was a meme pushed by, again, American military brass that wanted to avoid any blame for their own incompetence. >"No, the problem isn't us indiscriminately opening fire on farming villages because Billy-Bob Jackson got spooked by a water buffalo, its those dumb lazy gook cowards that are probably working for the commies anyways..."
-typed Nyueng while on his two minute lunch break, wishing he had anything to eat
Eli Reed
Fuck off Nazi fag. Hitler was a piece of shit, especially if you're an actual right wing nationalist. That ball gargler single handedly destroyed nationalism and paved the way for left wing globalism. The US had strong isolation elements that would've kept the US out of direct combat until at least 1944 if it weren't for those slant eyed dumb fuck japs bombing pearl harbour WW1 was an enlightenment european war with modern weapons that got blown out of all proportion to the limited war it was supposed to be. 20 years before it happened all that would have happened is Britain or Germany would've ceded some colonies and maybe a chunk of a province or some island, and everyone would've went home. The USA had no business joining ww1, every soldier on every side wanted it to just be fucking over and for a year before the USA intervened mutinies were occuring in every army, on a massive scale in the French army. Had the USA not promised Britain it's massive reinforcements all sides would've agreed to conditional surrenders and the seeds for ww2 and globalism would never have been planted...not so soon anyways. But over course amerimutts had to ruin the world and send over fresh troops to finally break the stalemate and get hundreds of thousands of more men killed and wounded so the eternal anglo and kikes in congress could implement their ZOG plans.
Fuck US patriots. You're all a bunch of israeli cock suckers. I'm glad 9/11 happened I just wish it hadve been worse.
Grayson Brooks
>The USA had no business joining ww1 lmao en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram Not to mention the unrestricted submarine warfare which the Germans reengaged knowing damn well it would get the U.S involved
Hunter Gonzalez
>be WW2chad >fight in the greatest war the world has ever seen, go back home to a hero's welcome and have multiple kids >be Vietnamcuck >OH NO THE FUCKING CHINKS KILLED MY SQUAD, DUDE MUH PTSD What went wrong?
Aiden Reed
IIRC Soldiers in Vietnam actually experienced significantly more combat than WW2 troops due to the nature of guerrilla warfare. >war is hell but contact is a mother
John Russell
Hitler was based and literally did nothing wrong. Only 3 people still assmad about him today are Jews, slavshits, and bongs, or various other tiny irrelevant European pitstops that he trounced all over
Samuel Morales
>ww2 rifles
lmao, their foot soldiers were better equipped than the US army
Evan Brown
>their foot soldiers were better equipped than the US army source?
WW2 veterans were also PTSD-addled and crazy. The arguably most famous one in US history (Audie Murphy) was a rampant alcoholic who spent all his money on sleeping pills just so he could close his eyes for a moment and not hear constant screams and horror all around him. It's just that a lot of these men didn't have a media willing to listen to them about their problems.
Jacob Harris
>Since his military service, Murphy had been plagued with insomnia and bouts of depression, and he slept with a loaded pistol under his pillow.[92][93] A post-service medical examination on 17 June 1947 revealed symptoms of headaches, vomiting, and nightmares about the war. His medical records indicated that he took sleeping pills to help prevent nightmares.[94] During the mid-1960s, he recognized his dependence on Placidyl, and locked himself alone in a hotel room for a week to successfully break the addiction.[15] Post-traumatic stress levels exacerbated his innate moodiness,[8] and surfaced in episodes that friends and professional colleagues found alarming.[95] His first wife, Dixie Wanda Hendrix, claimed he once held her at gunpoint.[96] She witnessed her husband being guilt-ridden and tearful over newsreel footage of German war orphans.[97] Murphy briefly found a creative stress outlet in writing poetry after his Army discharge. His poem "The Crosses Grow on Anzio" appeared in his book To Hell and Back,[98] but was attributed to the fictitious character Kerrigan.[99]
just read the summary of the war on wikipedia, China and Russia gave them an infinite supply of fresh produced weapons, artillery, vehicles, food, clothes and whatever else they needed. This rice farmer meme needs to die
Robert Rogers
>China and Russia gave them an infinite supply of fresh produced weapons, artillery, vehicles, food, clothes and whatever else they needed Yes China and Russia supplied but them but to suggest they were better equipped than the U.S Army? Nonsense
Daniel Gray
Stages 5-8 are Anglos and Jews
Gabriel Brooks
post height and jaw
Alexander Morris
>I'm not the one living in a communist bugshit country have you seen all the brown people around you? have you seen statues taken down and burned american flags? sounds like a mutt bugshit country on its way to communism
Ayden Hill
IIRC they were better equipped than the ARVN for the first half of the war, who were stuck with Korean War surplus weapons
Carter Martin
But they won the war.
The failure in Vietnam was entirely political. The VC won in the end because they agreed to peace, waited until the alliance left, then reattacked when there were barely any troops left in country. The US fucked over the South because it reneged on its promise to return if that happened.
Never, ever trust the US government. They have fucked over every single ally they've ever had going all the way back to Jefferson and Tripoli.
Brayden Rodriguez
>IIRC they were better equipped than the ARVN for the first half of the war source?
Oliver Williams
Even ancient soldiers grew weary of war. There are historical anecdotes of young recruits shitting themselves on the spot before a battle as they lined up to die, men drinking themselves to death upon coming home, et cetera. It just isn't really well understood because very few historians back then were interested in preserving tales of sad men who were lonely and killed themselves after hacking down a bunch of screaming foreigners and children. The "YEAH I LOVE KILLING" types are normally broken, too, trying to take control of their nightmares and self-loathing instead of succumbing to them, putting up a macho and psychopathic front. However, some of them are just psychopaths. >t. family with quite a few veterans of various wars.
Cameron Adams
My dad is a Bosnian war veteran and he still gets night terrors. Used to scare the shit outta me as a kid
Justin Lopez
>For much of the war the South Vietnamese were armed with castoff U.S. equipment of World War II vintage, such as the M-1 rifle (not well suited in weight or configuration for the relatively slight Vietnamese, let alone in terms of its limited firepower) and the carbine. Meanwhile the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong were getting the most modern weaponry their communist patrons could provide, including the famous AK-47 assault rifle. As a consequence, during the Westmoreland years the South Vietnamese were consistently outgunned, with predictable results in battlefield outcomes and morale, not to mention reputation. "Great emphasis was placed on improving the ARVN constantly," claimed Westmoreland,1 but that was simply not the case. Air Vice Marshal Nguyen Cao Ky, South Vietnam's sometime Vice President, later recalled bitterly how "the big, strapping American GI carried a light, fully automatic Colt M-16 rifle into combat with hundreds of rounds of ammunition, a match for the enemy's AK-47 assault rifle. Until after the Tet Offensive of 1968, our small soldiers carried heavy, eight-shot American M-1 rifles so obsolete that the U.S. National Guard did not want them."
No. Troop morale reached virtually zero eventually. Are you forgetting how "search and destroy" missions became "search and evade" missions, where platoons sent out on patrol would just camp in safe areas and send fake radio reports, because they were too shitscared to patrol into VC-held territory like they were supposed to? Or the open mutinies and more and more soldiers outright refusing to go on patrol as it was a death warrant. Or the Battle of FSB Mary Ann late in the war where an entire American base was attacked and completely sacked, with very little resistance given, because the American troops had lost all their fighting will by then?
Americans were defeated on the military and political battlefield. Maybe they could have won if things were done differently, but they weren't, so they lost.
Don't forget that they're talking about first generation M16s, which had an exceptionally high chance to jam and didn't even have a forward assist yet. It was a piece of trash compared to the mass produced AKs the north vietnamese army were using.
Vietnam "sacrificed its male population" yet nowadays the country is 99.99% vietnamese while the usa is barely 52% white american, so how did that work out for you?
Logan Martinez
The M16 was a fine rifle the issue it had was that troops were told it didn't need cleaning which resulted in the jams IIRC. After kits were issued to clean and maintain the rifles the issues disappeared
Benjamin Morales
I never said he was bad, user. Just that the US was after him.
Jordan Diaz
>Americans were defeated on the military Most battles the U.S. won, though. The problem was the U.S. wasn;t allowed to invade actual North Vietnam because we feared Korea 2.0 with china. This is what people don't understand. There's a reason why the U.S. didn't get to Hanoi, or even tried to. We only bombed it.
> "search and destroy" missions became "search and evade" missions
Pre-Tet. For some reason, people think the war ended with the Tet Offensive, not Paris in '73.
There's no "No" about it, user. The NV and the US signed peace accords and the US left. Then the NV made their move. A move that has been employed since in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Stick it out until the public turns against it, the US pulls out and attack. Smart. It's an almost assured long game victory since the US doesn't engage in real warfare anymore. They do hold-pattern warfare, which is just a meat grinder.
Troop morale was absolutely low. There is no disputing that. Why would it be high? They were drafted into a war, shipped off thousands of miles away and hamstrung by not being allowed to legally advance past the DMZ.
Blake Rodriguez
when gaddaffi would still be in power, the refugee flood into europe would not be possible.
Isaiah Collins
Winning battles are irrelevant, so are body counts. In a guerilla war, a guerilla army wins every battle they survive. Winning individual battles is irrelevant against a guerilla war, what is relevant whether they were able to destroy the enemy, flush them out, find their base of operations, destroy their supply etc. The U.S. was never able to accomplish any of these things. The U.S. could have hypothetically won the war without even invading the north if they had been able to destroy the PAVN/VC hiding places, bases, and supply lines in the south, but despite years of bombing campaigns they weren't able to. In fact, they we enemy was stepping up their supply and gaining more experience, while Americans were losing more and more ground, losing more ammunition and supplies, losing soldiers, bringing in soldiers without experience, and most importantly, losing morale. This is what led to a military defeat.
In the American revolution, the Americans lost more battles than they won, but in a revolutionary war, this is irrelevant. What's relevant is maintaining 3: supply, manpower, and willpower (third is most important). The Vietnamese maintained and increased these three things constantly throughout the war, despite having defeats in actual pitched battles, and thus won the war.The Americans lost these three things: they lost support, morale, manpower, and were unable to politically and militarily keep up their momentum. They were unable to find and locate the enemy and indefinitely flush them out, they were unable to stop them from infiltrating into the south, they were unable to cut off their supply routes. That's why they lost.
Vietnam could have been a winnable war had the Americans played their hand differently, but they didn't. They went in expecting a pitched battle like in World War 2, what they got was the American Revolutionary War except they were the British.
>He was wounded 14 times over 54 months of combat, was awarded theMedal of Honor, eightPurple Hearts, aDistinguished Service Cross,[a]aSilver Star, and fourBronze Stars. >He was nominated for the Medal of Honor three separate times over a 13-month period but received lesser medals for the first two nominations, which were for actions performed in Cambodia where the U.S. was fighting covertly. He was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions on December 30, 1968, his third nomination. >He retired from the US Army after 36 years of service as a fullcolonel, and the most highly decorated service member on active duty.[2]
The Paris Peace accords were virtually a defeat treaty, the U.S. signed them knowing it would mean they would effectively bow out of the conflict and leave Vietnam to it's fate. When the North kept up their insurgency and the Soviets kept supplying them, the US could have committed to the war again, or even fully supplied the south, but they didn't. The US had accepted defeat long before the North finally captured Saigon. The US had no willpower to fight the war at all, and that is a defeat.
Also the battle of FSB Mary Ann was in 1971, long after the Tet Offensive, it was obvious by then US soldiers on the ground had no desire at all to confront the enemy. Even if Nixon was comitted to a full on victory at all costs, you can't do that when you're own soldiers don't want to fight.
Juan Mitchell
Địt con mẹ mấy con chó Mỹ
Brandon Peterson
>Vietnam could have been a winnable war had the Americans played their hand differently, but they didn't. They went in expecting a pitched battle like in World War 2, what they got was the American Revolutionary War except they were the British.
You can just come out and say you don't know what you're talking about instead of wearing your keyboard out.
The goal in Vietnam wasn't to conquer the North. It was to stop them in the same fashion as Korea. In no way, shape or form was it similar to the Revolutionary War, which America only won because the Brits didn't think it was worth it to keep. They literally raped the US 25 years later in 1812.
>live in the greatest age of warfare >your chances of victory and survival are directly based upon your mental and physical prowess >victory brings you wealth and land and women, in addition to eternal glory in great poems and works of art >still find a way to piss and moan about it all
Basically you're saying soldiers have always been boomers?
>winning battles is irrelevant >use one battle was proof
Ian Adams
>victory brings you wealth and land and women, in addition to eternal glory in great poems and works of art No, it brings those things to the generals. At best you get some minor spoils and a lot of injuries, trauma, and wasted youth.
Ayden Collins
The American's goal in Vietnam was to keep North and South Vietnam divided, or more specifically, to keep the South Vietnam under an independent non-communist government. The US wholly failed in this regard. The US failed to defeat the enemy in South Vietnam, let alone in North Vietnam. Throughout the war, large parts of the South Vietnamese country side were occupied by the the Viet Cong and PAVN. It was never the American's goal to conquer north vietnam, it was to keep South Vietnam independent, and they failed at that.
Gavin Allen
Yeah and the South got all of that and more from the USA and they were still defeated by northern rice farmers.
Jace Bell
Viet civilization is over 2 millennia old, and have fended off Chinese dynasties. The U.S. was just a punk kid with a big gun.
Austin Gray
>your chances of victory and survival are directly based upon your mental and physical prowess >"CRASSUS, GET BACK HERE, WE JUST NEED TO WAIT FOR THE PERSIANS TO RUN OUT OF ARROWS BEFORE OUR SUPERIOR DISCIPLINE, TRAINING, AND MORALE-"
The thing is many people who enter the Army arrive with undiagnosed mental illness. It's often Pre Traumatic Stress Disorder.
Jayden Brown
The important point you retard wasn't who won or lost the specific battle, it's to show the Americans didn't even put up a fight and ran away. They had lost all morale and willpower to fight, and thus they lost the war.
Carson Martinez
mutts seething itt
Joseph Ross
>Viet Cong >named Cong
Austin Hughes
This was only true once absolutism took hold and armies became exclusive property of the state. Campaigning before that brought huge opportunities to veterans of the winning side, many of whom were granted land and estates in conquered territories or back home. Generals gave a free hand to their troops to sack conquered cities, meaning you and your buds had legal license to hurt whoever, steal whatever, and rape whomever you wanted, and to take as much plunder and slaves as you could. And that was all in addition to the wealth the generals bestowed on you as well, because they depended wholly on soldiers willingly following them since their power flowed from their men. Soldiering wasn't the brainwashed occupation it became during the enlightment, where all you would be given is a state salary (which was a pittance) and the rare opportunity to steal a silver plate or two-all while you were serving beside criminals and near literal retards because that's the quality of men gunpowder armies attract.
Soldiering used to be a chad occupation that might even elevate you to the ranks of nobility. Ancient soldiers had no right to get PTSD they were well compensated for their hardships. Unlike the modern brainlets who serve for minimum wage a shitty pension ans nerve damage
We were talking about American units not their allies
Juan Jenkins
>realizing nazis were jewish tricks all along
Landon Gutierrez
A sane person un Yea Forums? What sorcery is this
Cameron Reed
Based guy. But his meemaw was right. Arvn was ok desu. Also remember all the drugs, smuggling, raping and killing innocents the burgers did. Thats not the actions of a stable army
Kevin Perry
>not giving your ma some peace of mind Boomers are selfish narcissistic pricks
Charles Thomas
Based
Jayden Stewart
Their facial structure are sharper and more angular compared to the typical mongoloid. t. SEAnigger
Camden Moore
>tfw America and Vietnam are like old drinking buddies now, but America has to put up with Vietnam's lovably wacky war exaggerations
>VC was so fast he killed and threw several people into a hole before getting captured
Jason Cruz
Cong talks a lot of shit.
Oliver Williams
Not only was he right he was also within the confines of the law. The man he shot was an enemy combatant not wearing a uniform or insignia and was involved in the murder of civilians. What you are seeing is a legal summary execution by a commanding officer.
Hunter Mitchell
he's surrendered and unarmed, its illegal.
Nolan Morgan
Read up on the Geneva convention. The fact he surrendered makes no difference as he was an illegal combatant to begin with. Summary execution is the consequence of being an illegal combatant.
tard
Easton Lopez
>invade south Vietnam >south Vietnam asks for assistance from USA >US initially only sent advisors and aupplies/arms >involvment escalates slowly until Gulf of Tonkin incident >hurr usa bad, gommunism good Learn from history
America killed millions of them while American casualties were only in the 50k region
These nips also had the backing of China, Russia and Cambodia and they still couldn’t get the job done. Now Vietnam is a trading partner with the US.
Carter Murphy
adolescence is calling america's enemies dirty commies and muslims adulthood is realizing america is the great Satan and hoping that all their enemies humiliate them Can't wait for an Iran war.
lol stop baiting, not even dick cheney would believe the shit you’re spouting
Lincoln Foster
Niggah South Vietnam didn't even exist until the US put Ngo in there as a president. Both side already agreed to vote to see which one ruled the country until Ngo won with 97% vote.
Blake Murphy
You know absolutely nothing about the Vietnam war and get most of your knowledge from boomer reddit memes.
Adrian Lee
They're not nips. Nips is used to refer to japs because of Nippon. These are vietnam fucking shits
Department of Defense Statistical Information Analysis Division say US had ~360,000 casualties
and (as monstrous Americans usually do) you totally ignored/didnt care about your """ally""" South Vietnam's casualties (which US supported like you mentioned China/Russia did for North).
Notice also how North Vietnam did, in fact, "get the job done", as they reunified Vietnam, which was their entire goal of the war (and the entire goal of preventing this was what US tried to prevent, which they ofc failed)
I guess North Vietnam "lost" though, since due to unrelated massive geopolitical changes since then, Vietnam and USA now have good relations today, decades later. I guess you could say the Axis won WW2, they had fewer casualties, for example. and Germany has better economy than Russia today :D I even say a BMW in Moscow! B)
>his first wife, Dixie Wanda Hendrix, claimed he once held her at gunpoint.[96] She witnessed her husband being guilt-ridden and tearful over newsreel footage of German war orphans.[97] fuck
Liam Jackson
Also, the North sides casualties are bit inflated due to Americans & Co. killing civilians and lying about them being enemies to satiate their blood-lust
Britain started hiding arms and munitions on civilian ships filled with passengers. If you were trying to win a war and needed to stop the flow of supplies, what would you do?
James Hall
Nice pepe.
Hudson Mitchell
>Britain started hiding so what you're saying is the british teleported to the united states, assumed control of american ships, stole US arms, stowed them on the ships, sold tickets to US citizens under false pretenses and sailed the ships back over? the united states had nothing to with getting the weapons on the ships in the first place?
Angel Brown
>you got ass fucked No I live in the first world, the viet cong make my shoes now.
Jackson Rivera
>millions Vietnam today say around 850,000 military deaths + 180,000 civilians deaths = 1,030,000 total deaths. US estimate between 660,000 and 950,000 deaths.
Blake Morales
see
Gabriel Cooper
Not only that, the following year of the USS Liberty attack the US increased their funding to Israel x4
Aaron Gutierrez
>America killed millions of them while American casualties were only in the 50k region
Why can't we have a non shitposting discussion of the war?
Ian Edwards
mfw the north was bombed onto the negotiating table and signed a peace agreement effectively ending the war in 1973 but because of watergate nixon couldn't come back and fuck the north over again and the us government reneged on their deal to help the south out if the north should ever show any signs of aggression mfw nobody ever mentions this
Gabriel Torres
Anything involving the US will turn into shitposting
Because it's always filled with communist apologist shitposter.
Colton Walker
Based Diem. Too bad Kennedy was such a cuck faggot and made a coup against him to appease the CFR jews.
Joshua Harris
>Autocratic despot purges his political enemies before he & his brother rigged election so he won 98.2% then unilaterally declares he is President >Rebel against this obvious attempt to install a dictatorship >United States then supports this dictator. >United States then starts a military coup to replace their dictator. >There are four more coups or attempts at a coup within a year. >United States create a false flag to justify an invasion of your country to prop up whichever dictator they have in power. >United States floods in troops, starts bombing your cities, dropping chemical weapons at random, murdering civilians who they are supposed to be protecting >Fight this illegal criminal invasion. Get called an "enemy combatant spy" and executed in the street by a pawn of the United States and the South's petty dictators. At least that man's death served the greater cause of defeating the Americans and their power hungry puppets.
Angel Bailey
The Ayatollah was a CIA plant put into power by the CIA.
Isaiah Smith
>there are rules in war lmaoooo
Christian Watson
that's all nice and all but it doesn't change the fact communist and other authoritarian dictatorships need to be fought against
Connor Watson
The US public had completely gone off the war. The NVA captured Phouc Long, the US Congress voted down additional requests for funding and the US didn't come to rescue the inept South Vietnamese Army. 6 months later Saigon fell. The US wasted a decade propping up a succession of corrupt idiot politicians & pathetically weak generals.
Evan Roberts
>muh domino effect
Liam Hall
yes, what about it
Adam Smith
do you realize how fucked we would be if india became communist?
Kevin Gomez
who gives a shit about poos sharing their poo
Cameron Cook
>who gives a shit if most of the world wants to kill us
Levi Jenkins
based and redpilled, he knew he fought for the wrong side
Adam Gomez
China is already pointing nuclear weapons at everyone, what does it matter if India's shitty nukes are as well?
Benjamin Bell
1-Vietnam war wasnt about socialism. The goal of Vietnamese people was to liberate Vietnam from French and American colonialism
2. Countries have a right to choice socialism if they like. US has no right to invade other countries or stage coups just becaus they choose socialism. India would reach levels of development of China (100 percent literacy, 76 years life expectancy, high urbanization, agrarian self sufficiency etc)
Sebastian Green
>why does it matter if we have more bad people that want to team up and kill us you're an idiot
Gabriel Edwards
>bad people
USA is the vilain, thought. Stupid boomer.
Dominic Watson
This. Fuck Iran
Robert Martin
>The goal of Vietnamese people was to liberate Vietnam from French and American colonialism Nah, they should have embraced the americans like the Japanese did. They would have gotten their independence AND freedom.
Now they live in poverty.
>Countries have a right to choice socialism if they like. Absolutely not. Socialism is by definition authoritarianism. If another country wants to stop another country from becoming socialist, it's objectively a good thing.
>US has no right to invade other countries or stage coups just becaus they choose socialism. Yes they certainly do, and the only thing Pinochet did wrong was he wasn't free market enough.
>India would reach levels of development of China (100 percent literacy, 76 years life expectancy, high urbanization, agrarian self sufficiency etc) Is this a joke? China under mao starved millions of their own people. Countries that embraced free markets gained much higher living standards. India would had had a famine much worse than China if they became communists.
Even a 5 year old could understand why central planning doesn't work.
The communist vietnamese tortured and killed millions of their own people. The USA were liberators, but they did it in a foolish way.
Nolan Taylor
If my country decided to turn socialist, you bet your ass I would want the americans or NATO to kill the commie shitstain monopolizing power.
Adam Williams
>India would reach levels of development of China (100 percent literacy, 76 years life expectancy, high urbanization, agrarian self sufficiency etc) KEK China only did this because they ABANDONED socialism and implemented a market economy.
