What the fuck was his problem?

Yes

Yes. It has some fairly low lows, but the highs are extremely high.

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>tfw no squaw gf

based
cringe

imagine being this much of a low attention span brainlet

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lead poisoning

AS A BOY

also the middles are strong middles, never too high or low

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The Good Book reminds us not to judge our fellow men, lest we ourselves be judged. But if you ask me, this fellow Hickey was a real jerk!

He was not fit to be a sailor.

He was a devious seducer.

That scene was creepy as fuck. The distorted music and the realistic shanking. 10/10

He thrived in chaos. Until he didn't.

he was a faggot

He saved a bunch of men during the fire tho

He couldnt even save people right, gutted a man just to save them. Being Hickey is suffering.

Not enough threads about this show. eskino

he was a criminal stowaway that killed the original hickey and took his place aboard the voyage. He was already a cunt

If he hadn't gotten lead poisoning and gone insane from being hunted by a demon gestalt bear, would he have gone to the Philippines without complaint and stopped murdering?

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I may have to watch again, but I dont think he did anything out of malice before the poisoning/ psychosis, he only did things he had to

Was that in the book? I didn't like it. Like, it should have been that Hickey was a cunt, but just like a regular cunt, but the voyage turned him into the murder-cunt that he became

But why do that? What were his motives for any of it?

He did not get delusional. He was just a cunt.

The thing that annoys me about this show is when everyone's walking around unflinchingly with bare faces and often with no gloves either in the Arctic in the wind, sometimes at night even. Later on in the series they're even outside in basic shirts or sometimes naked/shirtless like Hickey. They'd be frostbitten and losing fingers in an hour trying that shit in the Northwest Territories.

Even during summer?

>name a character Goodsir
>is in fact a good sir
Pottery

He realized he could gain control of the tunbak and had to cause a bunch of events to put him in position to make the offering to it. Lead poisoning from the food probably played a part

meant for

That's boring in my opinion. I really liked the reveal of his character in the show (not sure if it was the same in the book.) It honestly added a lot when he was finally revealed to be a psycho because you could see how great he was at manipulating people, and the audience as well because he was portrayed as a good guy early on. I could see how some people think it's hamfisted though.

No dude. He was a clear psychopath by definition. Before he entered the voyage he murder the real "Mr. Hickey" and took on his name. He was a fucking nut

according to an old sailor in the book which have seen it all, there is always someone like hickey in any boat who always predates on cabin boys.

It was a real life person, but mfw Goodsir is a Good Sir.

he was a gay faggot

Bro as the show progressed almost all of the lead actors had frostbite scars and infections all over their faces. Some of the extras too. It was a low budget show so they couldn't add all of those minute details to the entire crew of the two ships.

post the rubicon pic

No. In the book he is pretty much just evil and planning a mutiny before the ships even get stuck.

Even in the middle of Summer, even at the Southernmost point they would have arrived at in the territories, the hottest it ever would have gotten would have been less than 10C.

It's an acting problem. Particularly in some scenes where they're in wind or out at night. The director should have had a constant reminder on set/location "IT IS COLD". One thing that took me out of the series routinely for immersion.

was disturbing as fuck when they showed his mutilated, gutted corpse. Normally I hate "le ebin good guy who is obviously the hero" but I really enjoyed Goodsir and his sacrifice, and that cannibalism scene is etched in my memory of fucked up kino

he was delusional

yeah fair enough. I haven't watched the show since it aired, but I just remembered them depicting how fuckin cold it was really well. I'm sure they messed up a few times. The last half of the show made me not even notice because of how nuts it was. I'm pretty sure it was summer though when they finally took the trek on that island but I assume you mean when they were stuck on the ships for the first year (2 years?)

It's not THAT cold there in summer.

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You normally hate the epin good guy who is 100% morally right lmao because they're shoehorned in and obnoxious, Goodsir was just a curious / kind person.

>20 years old
>5'4"
>88lbs
>evidence of lead poisoning in his body

Imagine getting on a wooden boat up to the end of the known world, essentially just going into space for them. You're headed into a place where for 95% of the year the temperature is so far below freezing that exposed skin will begin to get frostbitten in a minute or less. You're accepting that for the next indeterminable amount of time, you're just going to have to live with the fact that the air is going to hurt your face, or you probably just didn't know. Meanwhile you're going to have to walk out onto ice flows where every step you take could result in plunging into water that will paralyze you instantly and drown you in a moment. And that's just if everything goes perfectly according to plan.

In reality, when everything goes wrong, as one would expect, your food is rotten and makes you sick and miserable every day, and it's slowly killing you. For whatever reason, even in the Summer, the ice around your ship that has hiked it up onto a miniature glacier is not melting, meaning at this point there's no discernible difference between summer and winter, and no knowing if the ship will ever be let loose from the ice again. You're so far from help and the nearest outpost that walking there would take another year's journey, and the only way to have supplies for that journey is to haul 800lb sleds loaded with them across ice and rocks and uneven terrain.

All of this so England can have a slightly faster trade route to the Chinamen.

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You are legit retarded. You can be naked in -40 C for 30 min and get 0 frostbites. Have you ever lived above the polar circle?

One of the most Southern points they reached was King William island, which is still within the top blue reaches of 6 degrees in July. Not to mention that during the Franklin expedition they suffered one of the coldest Summers ever known where the ice did not thaw that Summer.

Sometimes they did, sometimes they didn't. The fact that they were all still bundled up in thick clothing most of the time even while inside the ship was a good touch. And I don't remember them ever using that awful "blue filter cold" that Hollywood tries to put on scenes to make them seem chilly. It's just moments here and there where you see a character handling things without gloves, or in the final act where they're walking the tundra in basic shirts or even shirtless or naked at times where I have to think "That would be cold as fuck and they'd be losing all those fingers functionality in five minutes or less".

You sure about that...? 30 minutes, butt-naked? Fucking doubtful

He never had the makings of a varsity sailor

Yes. Did it a couple of times myself. If you wear boots and don't touch anything it's fine.

Don't be a cock-inhaling faggotboy my nig

cbc.ca/news/canada/frostbite-the-cold-hard-facts-1.1209140

Temperatures in the Arctic circle go down to -50C not even factoring in the windchill effect. If you have a -65C wind blowing in your face it will literally freeze the moisture of your eyeballs and turn your face numb and all the moisture in your nasal passages will also go frosty breathing in. There's a reason polar expedition trekkers have every inch of skin covered for their entire journey, including goggles over their eyes.

If you'd like to learn more, here's a guy who hiked Antarctica only at -30 temperatures plus wind and he's discussing how he had minor frostbite spots on his face only from only pinhole exposures in his facemask: youtube.com/watch?v=adrBuG103gM

The main reason the expedition failed was due to bad luck, the mid 1840s experienced the coldest years that region of the world in recorded history. Had it been a normal year the ice would have melted enough in the summer, but it never did.

You are talking about long-term exposure. 30 min won't kill you.

>verifying that you are indeed a negro by showing me that you cannot read
>Once the wind chill makes the temperature feel like –28 or colder, exposed skin can freeze in under 30 minutes. When it drops to –40, frostbite can occur in less than 10 minutes. Take it to –55, and you're in danger within two minutes. Anything colder than that and Environment Canada warns you shouldn't go outside at all.

That makes more sense. I figured you meant literally stepping on ice/snow bare-naked with no shoes in -40 Celsius. Bare feet would probably get frostbite in a minute or two

Why are you such a faggot.
ktva.com/story/39786993/the-40-below-club-a-uaf-tradition-of-braving-the-cold

>people walk outside in their underwear to briefly snap a selfie in front of the thermometer then run back inside

Wow that sure refutes scientific data of the effects of cold and wind on human tissue.

Jesus. It doesn't mean you lose your toes and fingers after 30 min. It's just really painful. Especially when you get back to warmth. I worked in cold all my life, camping on glaciers and drilling permafrost boreholes at -40. I still have all my fingers and toes.

You might have missed the part where he killed Mr. Hickey and stole his identity in order to obtain a position on the ship and start a new life on a Pacific Island, an act which assumes a life of similar actions in which he is escaping

Exposed fingers and toes? Literally yes, in 30-40 minutes.
You're not standing watch on a ship's deck for 4 hours without gloves in -40 temps without losing the tips of your fingers if you're not wearing gloves.

>he was portrayed as a good guy early on
You thought he was a good guy?

4 hours sure, but 30 min is not enough if you have enough fat and good blood circulation. And if you are a man.

My gf thought she was a Chinese.

most accurate portrayal of homos desu

>I still have all my fingers and toes.
Yeah, because in your fantasy scenario you wore gloves and boots lmao

>Once the wind chill makes the temperature feel like –28 or colder, exposed skin can freeze in under 30 minutes. When it drops to –40, frostbite can occur in less than 10 minutes. Take it to –55, and you're in danger within two minutes. Anything colder than that and Environment Canada warns you shouldn't go outside at all.

Shifts are 4 hours retard, which is the whole point of this discussion

smithsonianmag.com/history/for-40-years-this-russian-family-was-cut-off-from-all-human-contact-unaware-of-world-war-ii-7354256/
>Dmitry built up astonishing endurance, and could hunt barefoot in winter, sometimes returning to the hut after several days, having slept in the open in 40 degrees of frost, a young elk across his shoulders.

Go out and do it, bud.
Tell me how that works out for you

>built up

How many 19th century British sailors "built up" an immunity to what you perceive as an RPG style "frost damage"?

Yeah and Wim Hof exists too.

It doesn't change the fact that there are objective effects that cold has on human tissue.

He was a crazy taternigger before the lead poising

I think that wasn't Hickey. Wasn't it Goodsir or that clone of his?

No, it was Hickey, not the guy who got mauled by the demonbear

The reactor's fine Akimov

But it's not. I've done soil sampling in rubber gloves. It's not that dangerous. Stop quoting that canadian pussy shit.

>REEEEE stop refuting me!!!!!

lmao you can't even last five minutes on Yea Forums without shitting your pants, let alone subzero temperatures

The distorted voice trying to talk added a lot to the scene. It's great.

He wasn't actually Irish, only the original Hickey was. That's why Crozier couldn't detect his accent.

You are legitimately retarded.
>Oymyakon has two main valleys beside it. These valleys trap wind inside the town and create a colder climate. However, children are still allowed to go to school if it is warmer than −55.0 °C (−67.0 °F).

I bet they send their kids to school in t-shirts and shorts right?

tfw 15,000 roentgen

No, but they all die in 2 min.

Why did they put him on a hunting party?

A criminal/killer from the hellworld of a Victorian city is stuck on military naval ship in the middle of the artic for three years when he thought he would be in a tropical paradise in a year.

>eerie music starts playing
God, that ending was surreal.

I liked the music during Goodsir's death more.
It made his suicide more... believable? Like it was all fantasy.

He went crazy because he had the worst facial hair in the entire crew. I mean if I saw Collins or Goodsirs chops everyday while I had that scraggly shit I would want to murder

The manbearpig ruined it for me. I loved everything else about it thought.

Goodsir's powerful mutton chops made me ashamed of my perfectly adequate but not at all special beard growing ability.

The man's maw is more thick and coarse of hair than his head.

Imagine arguing against science lmao

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>guy named Goodsir
>he's a good sir
>ship named Terror
>terrifying things happen to its crew
>monsters name is Tuunbaq
>wants people to turn back
Real fucking subtle

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