I don't know who the fuck these people are supposed to be playing except Peter Parker.
I don't know who the fuck these people are supposed to be playing except Peter Parker
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Why do they have to be playing somebody, aside from your 'tism?
They're not meant to be playing anyone, they just made a bunch of original characters and gave them the names of existing comic characters.
they're Diversity user
It's the elasticity of reality. They're removed from the core Marvel universe enough that the characters don't look or act the same, but because they're not SO FAR REMOVED, they keep some of the other traits like name and place of birth and general station in the world.
This comes up in Time Travel, sometimes, but in this case it is the different universes. I think Marvel has 616 universes, canonically?
Yes I'm sure the writers at Marvel went "the MCU has many changes from the comics, how would this affect Spiderman in our new movie?" and they scientifically determined he'd be into a nigger now
616 is just the main one
I vaguely remember one numbered in the 30 thousands
Can you think of a reason he wouldn't be, without citing extant canon? And if I should delve into that same canon swamp and find a single instance where he did want to sleep with a black chick, who will be in the right?
I bet they wouldn't make Blade white. Changing characters race should not be allowed. Like Simpsons, they are yellow, but if you change their color you can't recognize them anymore. It's not the same person anymore.
>without citing extant canon
Very epic
Can you think of a reason why he would be while citing extant canon?
>doesn't know Liz Allen
That's gotta be too many universes. But, if you take it as writ, then why wouldn't there be a universe in those 30,000 where Peter wants to get jiggy with it?
Why did you recite my rhetorical question back to me? It was literally the second half of my reply. Do I need "reddit spacing?"
If I should go looking for any instance where Peter wanted to bang a black chick, who will be right? Me or you?
Honestly with how little they care about having characters the same race as they were in the comics I’m surprised they didn’t make spider-man a nigger as well. Would’ve made more sense too
I don't know who Liz is and i especially don't know when the actor is brown and comic book version is white blonde
I fail to see how it matters, since you clearly don't know shit about the canon and the very first thing you said was basically "is there a reason if we throw out the canon"? Just with that you already revealed yourself to not want to talk about Spiderman, only about race mixing
Incidentally, one such reason could be pure statistics, it's very unlikely that PP would just happen to be dating a nigger.
>five minutes into chicken and waffles and she gives you this look
the new ideal of beauty, mary jane and liz allen, the superior black versions, same initials different names
Because blade is one of the few black superheroes in the comics. Most of the comic characters are white because they were written in a time where diversity was laughed upon. I think it's a good thing to change a few white characters' race
meet your new MJ
absolutely repuslive
Of course you do (((user)))
Black Liz was hot tho
>Have literal humam perfection on the cast
>she has a bit part
Why are the Jews so cruel?
absolute state of black people
she is now the girlfriend of the fat guy
>left
Actually attractive, forgivable race recasting of a mostly unimportant side character
>right
ugly mutt, off-putting wide nose, extremely important Spider-Man character replaced with a complete SJW and, politics aside, total cunt
Apparently they were planning to give Angourie a bigger part but once they realised she wasn't that good an actor they increased Zendaya's role
Why does her skin color matter?
DC universe has a much better understanding of how free will has fractured the universe into an innumerable amount of variable universes. Some of these universes are so similar that you could spend the rest of your life trying to find any discernible difference between them, and yet others are so dissimilar that you would go mad trying to find the vaguest semblances.
Free will, that's the secret to the universe. Hawking knew it, Tesla knew it, Einstein for sure knew it. Each time any human being makes a choice, it fractures reality itself. One universe where you made that choice, and one universe where you didn't. This could be something as innocuous as you deciding to eat a bagel tomorrow morning, or something like Hitler deciding to stay in art school and become a painter.
These universes seem to share one single hive mind, an individual can only be present in one universe at one time. But I've long theorized if one was to die in this specific universe, they would respawn in the closest proximity of a reality their subconscious would be able to accept. I believe the mandela effect to be living proof of this, and that people who experience it are adjusting to their new realities as best they can, and yet still there are enough minor differences that it becomes apparent that they're not on their original universe.
Whether this is what most people refer to as God, or some sort of simulation is still left to be determined. Perhaps we're in hell. Perhaps it doesn't matter either way.
Okay so make Blade asian or a pajeet. There are significantly fewer of those than there are black people in Hollywood.
If it doesn't matter, then there's no need to change her race in the first place ;^)
why does anything matter?
why does gender matter?
why does the name Liz matter?
Why can't Liz Allen be a Pakistani man named Abdul in the next movie?
They both have wide noses user lol. And Zendaya technically isn’t playing Mary Jane, she’s Michelle, an original character in the place of MJ.
Because i can't tell who these characters are supposed to be. What if you made a Shrek movie and the donkey was changed to a pelican
There's a need however to cast the right actress for the role, despite her skin color. She obviously was the right choice, despite not looking like you'd want her to.
i feel like peter dwinklage is a better actor then her
Zendaya is much wider. And, even that gross feature aside, she’s much less attractive
>What if you made a Shrek movie and the donkey was changed to a pelican
It wouldn't matter one bit. the donkey being a donkey isn't integral to the plot, however liz being blonde, would actually ruin the plot reveal at the climax of the movie.
why the FUCK would that old lady raise a pelican brainlet
Thousands of people probably are, that's not being discussed here.
Deconstructionist trash. Why have anything be anything? Just sit in a dung pile huffing a cow's arse. Even as bait it angers me
then you say youd cast him as MJ or whatever
In a fantasy world where ogres and dragons and literal fairy stories are a real thing?
Gee, beats me. That WOULD be puzzling wouldn't it? A FUCKING PELICAN?
Crazy.
MCU Spider-Man is like a bootleg version of Spider-Man
She's not playing an important or iconic character by any means, could have been any white actress ;^)
>beacuse fantastic animals exist youre supposed to throw away logic
No
Yes. She could've. It would've made the impact of Michael Keaton being her father have less of an impact though. So you see, her not being a blonde, white girl would've been a not-so-smart decision.
Replace Donkey with a Pelican that talks and has the same personality. How does the story changes? Oh, it doesn't? Why I...
What was his name again?
She was the right choice because now black women feel empowered to date white men and white men want to date black women because they're the epitome of beauty. Fully white children are going to become a rarity in 10 years time
1-pelicans cant have sex because they have no penis (no half dragon kids)
2-it would break the first movie, why would that old lady have a talking pelican
3-he wouldnt need to use the flying powder to try to run away from the soldiers
did you even WATCH shrek
Actually, its Penis Parker.
Believe it or not she's a fashion icon
what did she mean by this expression and body language?
>1-pelicans cant have sex because they have no penis (no half dragon kids)
Did you see a vagina on the dragon?
>2-it would break the first movie, why would that old lady have a talking pelican
Why would she have a talking donkey?
>3-he wouldnt need to use the flying powder to try to run away from the soldiers
You got me there, movie ruined i guess.
>did you even WATCH shrek
Apparently not as much as you did.
how about the third movie where the whole plot is about donkey turning into a horse huh
is this whiteface?
>Why would she have a talking donkey?
because shes a farmer and one of her donkeys talks
why would a farmer have a pelican in the first place
and repitiles have normal sex unlike burbs
Answer me pleb, why couldn't the ogre be replaced with Joe Biden huffing the donkey's ass?
based fatso
Will they manage to redeem Flash at all? He's nothing like in the comics or previous movies, I can't see him standing for anything, or even looking up to Spider-Man.
How do you even remember this much from some 20 year old kids movie?
they are characters made for the movies
>why would a farmer have a pelican in the first place
kek listen to yourself. THEY LIVE IN MAGICAL LAND
A talking pelican in a farm is not the same as a white girl on a movie.
>she wasn't that good an actor
way better than zendashit
Ew
Why?
>magical land
just because its magical land ou dont throw away basic logic brainlet
why not pick that guy that plays the mountain to play her then
>just because its magical land ou dont throw away basic logic brainlet
Yes you can. Logic took a holiday the second donkeys started talking and having hybrid babies with dragons, you putz. Look at you circling around this stupid subject just because you can't accept a non-white woman in a movie role.
all im saying is, the actor does matter and youre a retard to say it doesnt
again are you ok with the mountain playing her then?
or since spider man is make believe world too just put a dog there
I was hoping this thread would have some cute pics
The'y CAN'T make Blade without Snipes, not even another black actor would be good enough.
>the actor does matter
In this particular case it does. Casting a white-blonde woman would lessen the impact of her being Michael Keaton's daughter as most people would've figured said plot twist. Her being a woman of color helped.
>again are you ok with the mountain playing her then?
Never did I imply anything of the sort. Trace back the conversation and see for yourself. Stop being childish for a second.
So a huge middle aged strongman or a dog is believeable as a romantic intrest and classmate of peter parker. Same thing as a teenage girl.
you said why does it matter that shes black?
so it does matter?
oh now were using ''logic in make believe land''
why would an ugly black girl be any different
I don't know. Most people watching these movies have no idea who these characters are supposed to be, so I guess the producers figured they can portray them however they want
I hope they do one where all of the character are aryan gods
The main marvel comic universe is 616 and the MCU is 99999 or some iirc
Apparently not
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In the mcu universe Peter Parker thinks this blonde girl is absolutely disgusting
She looks like she could beat his ass. Why cast this twink?
In FFH they have the only girl in the cast who could actually play Mary Jane fucking this beast. It'd be less cruel for the actress if they had her fucking a horse or donkey
It's pretty unrealistic for a guy like him to have a girlfriend to begin with. He spends his free time building LEGO kits.
Because Liz Allen in the comic book was a bitch. She treated Peter like shit. Most of the people ine Peter's life treated him like garbage, or ignored him. Peter was very much an angry bitter character with no friends when he was created and before the spider bite. Pretty much just the kind of kid you would expect to get super powers and then run off and use them for his own personal gain. Just the kind of person you'd expect to see in a position to help someone and do nothing out of spite or petty revenge. And this was acceptable because all Peter's classmates were white. So now Peter is in a more diverse school system, do you really think you can you show all the diverse students at school treating the protagonist of the movie like absolute trash. No, they all have to love him and appreciate how smart he is. They now depend on him to win the quiz championship. Is the now brown Flash Thompson a strong violent confrontational bully that does whatever he can to make peter's life hell simply because he's weaker, NO. He's ultimately another smart well off kid that is just jealous because Peter is smarter than him so he makes fun of him from time to time.
Pic, Guess who the red head and blonde are.
The new Spider-Man movie is one of the most obvious examples of why race matters.
>she wasn't that good an actor
DELET THIS!
>And this was acceptable because all Peter's classmates were white. So now Peter is in a more diverse school system, do you really think you can you show all the diverse students at school treating the protagonist of the movie like absolute trash. No, they all have to love him and appreciate how smart he is. They now depend on him to win the quiz championship. Is the now brown Flash Thompson a strong violent confrontational bully that does whatever he can to make peter's life hell simply because he's weaker, NO. He's ultimately another smart well off kid that is just jealous because Peter is smarter than him so he makes fun of him from time to time.
You deserve more replies than you're going to get.
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Oh this is the hilarious part.
>Bendis creates an OC asian fat kid to be the best friend of Miles Morales called Ganke
>Sony thinks that a fat asian best friend is a good idea
>Changes his name to Ned Leeds, a (white, blonde) Daily Bugle reporter from the comics who eventually becomes brainwashed into the supervillain Hobgoblin
>Now don't have to pay Bendis a penny because it's not Ganke
>Probably don't have to pay Lee's estate a penny either since the character is so different from Comics!Ned.
But that's Lizzie
stay mad whitey
>Antagonising white people is a great idea I can't see what could go wrong.
>How did Trump get elected i am confus
I honestly didn't expect to get many if any. And I thought those would be calling me incel or something. I'm glad someone appreciates or at least understands my opinion. I'm cool with just this. Thanks.
>Is the now brown Flash Thompson a strong violent confrontational bully that does whatever he can to make peter's life hell simply because he's weaker, NO. He's ultimately another smart well off kid that is just jealous because Peter is smarter than him so he makes fun of him from time to time.
That kind of character is cliché as fuck though. One of the best parts of the new Spiderman movie was how it avoided the usual high school movie bullshit.
Tbqh the bully ultimately being just an insecure jackass rather than the usual borderline psycho was far more true to life.
It's not the same story as your Rami movies you dumb boomers
Ongurry is the best spidey girl.
kek
I love that image.
Post more Ang Oories
You absolutely correct. MCU Peter doesn’t face the same adversity the real Peter does. He has a sidekick/friend who he can talk to, no shames him for his hobby because everyone in school has same hobby, his “bully” is completely unthreatening, and he’s always wanted to be a hero meaning there’s no way the first thing he’d do is use his powers to get money. There’s honestly no way he’d let a burglar get away out of spite causing his uncle in fact, in fact you could argue Uncle Ben doesn’t even exist in the MCU
I guess when it reaches that "borderline psycho" thing you're talking about, yea it gets tiresome or cliché. But for me I find the "insecure jackass" to be an even bigger cliché. "I was picking on you because deep down I wanted to be you" it's laughable. True to life is most of the time they're assholes raised without limits or punishments for their behavior. The Jealous thing is just bullshit teachers and parents made up to help kids cope with a tough time in their life without having to get too involved. And people with public personas run with because it frees them from having to deal with criticism.
>if you antagonize white people they'll vote for a big fat reality tv star who can't spell
wow so scary
They’re blackwashed characters, it’s not that complex. Liz is boring and woke MJ is fucking insufferable.
So why make her black? If it doesn’t matter why be racist to white people? The actress specifically says she was made a black character for “diversity” though, so clearly they think skin colour does matter.
you're the only one making a big deal about it
Zendaya is shit though. She should kiss Weinstein’s arse nightly because without his garbage taste in women she’d have no career.
You didn't answer the question.
Make him a Yazidi with blond hair, that’s rare.
no one cares about her skin color except you.
>the right actress
Yeaaahhh because there’s no way a mediocre actress like her got the role because she’s black. You’re naive as a child.
The actress herself even admitted they black washed the characters for ((diversity))
She would’ve perfect as Gwen
Fuck this gay earth
He’s perfect, way better than Garfield and arguably better than Tobey.
Bullshit. Vulture being the father of Peter’s gf is the shock factor, but Vulture being a race mixing failure and the kid looking like she’s direct from the Congo while her mother looks mixed American is fucking weird and immersion breaking.
Aww femcel, projecting onto black women won’t make the boys look at you any more favourably.
As you can see, Peter, yes. I have betrayed our people. But you don't understand. You don't understand the heaven that is going up to your pelvis in dark meat. They really are like animals, just like my father always told me. "No son of mine would be caught dead courting a nigress." But once you've had a taste, Sally from Sunday school who was saving herself for our marriage just doesn't cut it anymore. I was 25 when I had my first rumble in the jungle. And you know what I did, Peter? For 15 years I prowled street corners sweeping up every black mama I could find. Big ones, fat ones, short ones, tall ones. Fatherless half-breeds litter the streets of New York. They still tell stories about me in Harlem, hoots from old ladies about Adrian "Massa" Toomes and his bag of whips. What I'm saying, Pete, is if you're gonna do this, you better go all the way. Show my daughter why we've been running the world for thousands of years.
She’s not an icon, she’s a diversity token nobody but ‘woke’ boomers in the media cares about.
jesus christ, no wonder he was the villain
Because he’s beautiful and looks like a teen, why cast those gorillas as the love interests is the correct question.
faggot
Hey there fellow kids! Don’t we all just love race mixing? It’s so gosh darned hip!
dats liz osborne homy
Because race does matter to them, I’m calling out your lies that it’s not important. Admit you want white people to not care, while everyone else gets a free pass from you.
The mother, Garcelle Beauvais, is Haitian
The daughter, Laura Harrier, is literally mixed (half white)
There is no problem with this casting whatsoever.
Because he’s a lying cunt who knows damn well they changed the races for political reasons, therefore proved skin colour matters.
You care, you support this racism too, or you would ask why they made white characters black. Instead you’re pretending it’s not important. Let’s make Aladdin white blond then shall we?
Liz, like Flash, grew to be friends with Peter, it's just that Liz vanished when Peter went to college and Flash stayed in the book.
It took Peter becoming Spider-Man to mature and make friends with his old "enemies", who were really just teenagers being teenagers.
I’ve got taste in women, clearly you don’t.
Haitians are mixed Euro + African, Liz looks way darker than her in the film with more African features. It doesn’t work. Race erasing is wrong in any case.
White people deserves this though. You're so evil.
Except that the people messing with white people are mostly other white people. The elite liberal city whites shit on the white race but really they mean all those "other" whites not as woke as them. It's white people who make things like BLM powerful through their assent, they just do it to establish themselves as even higher on the social ladder. As usual, the real enemy is the traitor within.
>If you antagonize black people they’ll just destroy there own community and blame it in whitey
So progressive