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Who gives a fuck. They're both mediocre anyway.

>not even gonna beat Avatar's first run
lmao

REDDIT IS SEETHING

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imagine trying this hard and still failing

Scott Memelson was saying it would be over 2.7b by monday LOL

>mfw Spendgame autists are going insane right now

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my empire of dirt etc etc

Quads confirm SCOTTY DOESN'T KNOW

oh no no no no no. oh noooooo

>Spendgame

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I watched Avatar in the movies 3 times. Still haven't seen Endgame..and i dont plan too. Fuck superhero shit. Its for children

I didn't watch any of these two but i guess cape shit is still better than Pocahontas in space

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only man saving us from a dystopian nightmare.

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capeshit is not better than pocahontas though

do people really care how much money a movie made at the box office? how does it impact you in any way? Both of these movies are pleb tier shit anyway

Please, i hope he will cancel those 4 Avatar sequels and actually tries to do something original.

it's a meme you dip

>be a gigantic megacorp
>brainwash npc during 10 years
>shove entire hollywood up your trash
>still can't beat the vision of a man

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I only watched Burtons Batman series and it was much better than Avatar, which was so boring i turned it off after first half

>haha...hah-ha....Bob, I activated the Avatar clause in your contract... Youre not leaving til its over

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you mean the run that lasted 6+ months? Avengers has been out for a month.

is this inflation-adjusted? also, is it that hard for Endgame to get another $100m after releasing on Bluray?

avatar sucked just goes too show you the power of marketing

God, without the star power and lack of Endgame hype the next movies will flop

Disney shills need to show their loyalty and annoy people on line

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Burton's Batman isn't capeshit
capeshit as a term was invented for the MCU

that film had fantastic word of mouth which resulted in great legs
if you were not a child you would have been around to know that

Avatar had an actual good word of mouth so people kept watching it

That's not an excuse. There were way fewer theaters when Avatar came out compared to today. Not to mention Endgame is the culimnation of over a decade of capeshit buildup, plus features some of the most iconic characters ever. Avatar is just le 3D movie with blue people but it still beats your capeshit for children.

>literally hyped for years with like 10 movies to build it up
>cant beat blue cats having sex in a forest the movie
J U S T
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Retarded Marvel numales/zoomers do at least. I can’t comprehend why’d they care if it made more money than some other movie from a decade ago that they probably haven’t seen. Is it some cry for validation for a fucking kids movie, so they can act like capeshit is serious business so they can justify investing time and money into a franchise aimed towards kids?

BASED

I haven't seen any Marvel movie beside Raimi SpiderMan and DC Burton and Nolan series. I thought capeshit refer to superhero movie genre

>There were way fewer theatres when Avatar came out compared to today
citation needed

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>10 years
this has been my issue. it hasn't been 10 years hyped.
Thanos first appearance was in Avengers 1 post credit scene (2012)
His real announcement was Guardians of Galaxy (2014)

it wasn't a 10 year build up at all

now it does, but the term was coined due to the MCU being shit and causing superheroes to take over hollywood

and 90% of the movies are irrelevant, and Thanos only got the first stone in Infinity War, offscreen
but it's what they market it as and normies ate it up

>home release sales
>contributing to total theatrical gross

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Not him, but are you retarded?

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ok, how can it get $100m more from ticket sales?

If Endgame didn't have the advantage of + 30000 Chinese screens it wouldn't even have beaten unadjusted Titanic

>china
what about counties that are already developed?

10 (ten) years of buildup and still beaten by a cheeky brand new sci-fi franchise.
Can't Dim the Jim

just imagine Avatar 2 with China dollars
$5B confirmed

Do a theatrical run of every MCU movie during the summer of 2022 for the decade anniversary of The Avengers I suppose, it's pretty much finished in its current run at this point.

didn't they already do that in some cinemas as a build up to Endgame?

Probably but not on a large scale, the problem is there's too many fucking movies in this franchise to give a shit about whereas something like Star Wars or Avatar only has one or a couple entries that are required viewing.

>good word of mouth

I've literally never met anyone who actually thought the movie was good. People went to see it purely for the 3D tech

>mouse shill doesn’t realize the big 1B comes from bugmen chinks
laughable. based retard

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Are you seriously suggesting that the amount of screens in developed countries has diminished
AT ALL (let alone enough to offset a nearly 10x increase in China's screens)? Do you have any data to support this?

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The number of screens in the USA has continued to increase (albeit more slowly) over the years. Is there some mass-closure in Europe that we are unaware of?

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The customer mentality

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>mouse shill
I don't like either of these retarded movies thank you very much. Cinemas have been on the decline in England over the last decade, mainly due to netflix, hence my post

how about all the other countries in development?

>retards watched Avatar back then
>retards watch capeshit now
Reminder that if a movie breaks 1 billion or even 200 millions it means it appeals to the masses which are retarded.

Have sex.

you first

Capeshit was a name given to superhero comics, it existed before the MCU.

I doubt it will be as big as the first one. Avatar was "special" because of the 3-d spectacle factor, and the sheer uniqueness of the experience. They aren't going to replicate that success without some new ground-breaking technology or gimmick (like how the only reason End Game got close is because of 10 years of hype and buildup).

>he didn't appreciate the cinematic experience that was Avatar
reminder arguing the movie is shit is complete proof you never seen it in a cinema and therefore your opinion is worth nothing

imagine the tears when avatar 2 breaks 3 billion

>They aren't going to replicate that success without some new ground-breaking technology or gimmick
the hype has already begun. 16 feet depth 3D incoming

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source: your ass

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>dude you weren't impressed by its videogame aesthetics?! LMAO
Kill yourself.

Huh, well then I retract my statement. If it truly is another true breakthrough then yeah it'll probably hit the top of the list

Endgame made over $100m in UK Box Office. Thats Skyfall numbers (incredibly impressive)

Alright you win, most of the independent cinemas have closed down though and been replaced by huge chain companies, which is kind of sad. Only a couple left in my city now

Àvatar and Avengers are both Disney...

disney has less rights on Avatar than they do on Spiderman in live action

>"people" on twitter telling everyone go watch memegame again to beat avatar
Why are Capeshit fans so pathetic ?

>replaced by huge chain companies, which is kind of sad.
agreed

>disney literally moves Avatar 2 release date

something they can't do on Spider Man since Disney doesn't own Spider Man, at all

Avatar is a Disney property, it's even getting a ride at Disneyworld

He’s right, though, and your non argument will not change that. The plot is laughably thin, but the spectacle was unlike anything seen before or since. And it will not be surpassed with the continued maximization of profit vs CGI quality.

>Avatar 2 release date has moved several times
>moves after disney has distribution
>DISNEY MOVED IT LMAO
honestly are you stupid?
>Avatar is disney property
they hold distribution as did Fox. Ownership is obviously with Cameron's company, Lightstorm Entertainment
>its even getting a ride
which opened over a year ago which Cameron curated. Are you stupid?

Just wanted to remind you that the only time I've seen Avatar was back in 2009 when I got a camrip, never watched it again

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>No communities
>No church/temple/shrine
>No moral center
>No family
>No meaning
>No sense of worth
>No justification for life's suffering
>No conviction to commit suicide
You're seeing the effects of a society finally coming to pass after decades of corporate control in which brands have replaced religion as the arbiters of moral worth

Never heard it before MCU

Because you have no friends. Have friends. Have sex.

Oh NONONONONO

Fucking based. He's an insecure arrogant prick but I love him for this one thing alone.

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you said they had less rights on it than they do on Spider man, but in reality they do have rights since they can move around it's release date, something Disney can't do Spider man movies since they do not own it at all and the ones distributing it are Sony

I think you're doing some damage control there, you can't deal with Disney being behind the one thing you shill everyday here

Its interesting to note that all the other 2 billion movies besides Infinity War was during December. If Endgame was given a winter release instead, do you guys think it would have had the legs to reach 3 billion?

I used to browse Yea Forums and it's been around before the MCU it just wasn't used for movies because we didn't have a flood of superhero movies back then like we do now.

>but in reality they do have rights since they can move around it's release date
please provide proof disney moved the release date? the release date has moved several times before and you claim its now disney who control it.
you are a spastic
do disney have any rights in Avatar? yeah they could refuse to distribute it. Im sure that would lead with Cameron going elsewhere, but then why would disney be as retarded as you

>the vision of a man
whoa... amazing...

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and I will never watch Endgame

but it has flying rocks and a CGI jungle now!

>10 years on
>still seething
lmao

NOOOOOOOO BROS WE WERE GONNA MAKE IT REDDIT PROMISED IT WOULD BE A PIECE OF CAKE

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No because it would have missed the Chinese holiday that made it gross 200 million more in that country alone

TRANNY SEETHING
LMAAAAAOOOOOOOO

>not seething at the death of cinema

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yikes

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so Fox delayed the film previously several times?
you are a retard

seethe more tranny

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>they still haven't learned

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Don't forget to adjust for inflation.
It's 17% from 2009 to 2018.

its still moving, theres still a chance

that specific argument of his is correct tho, don't be retarded. I'm glad capeshit didn't win, but Avatar is NOT an original, compelling, or intelligent story. It was big because of the spectacle.

lol its dead

Reminder that Cameron is a liberal, trannies love him and Avatar is literally about a guy changing his body into a totally different one.

everyone loves him but seething disney pakis

It would probably open much closer to The Force Awakens' opening, so no
But it could probably beat Avatar

> Avatar is literally about a guy changing his body into a totally different one.
No, it's about "MUH NOBLE SAVAGES" and vaguely about "MUH EBIL COLONIAL OPPRESSORS". The "body changing" (which is not even an accurate description) is incidental. The problem is that he betrayed his fucking species for exotic pussy.

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you know that liberals absolutely hate him for true lies?

I TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR BUT IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

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see in you in july when spider-man makes a billion

merely an endgame aftershock
get ready for the flopperoo next year. probably the chinese superhero film theyre going to release

literally
everything it made between 2.187b (Titanic's 2nd place) til now doesn't even matter

it will "misteriously" break a billion dollars too, another win for diversity

First one didn't . Why would this one?? I like Jake but the movie looks boring

>superhero shit is for children
>I'm gonna go watch muh 9 foot tall blue aliens

because all mcu sequels have increased except age of ultron.

yeah sci fi is higher tier than spandex wearing meme spouting retards

With the exception of Age of Ultron, every movie within each franchise of the MCU have made more than its predecessor.

Funny thing is the entire kinoplex I attended opening night was paid for by a couple guys handing out tickets. Frontloaded and shilled beyond belief.

so just like black panther and captain marvel then

Bargaining stage

I never watched that shitty cgi pocahontas remake
Despite the hype, the shills...

no one actually watches marvel movies. too bad only we Yea Forums intellectuals have uncovered this conspiracy. the plebs will forever be in the dark

Good, we dont have the lies of the church going on, so we can finally have a true crisis and seek meaning in a void where there is none. It will kill us or make us stronger.

Doesn't mean it would make a billion though

I too tip my fedora to you my fellow big brain nibba

Yes let's go along wondering if chopping off children's dicks and letting them be adopted by a community that makes up the vast majority of STD cases and suicides despite being a tiny fraction of the population at large. I'm sure the Muslims will wait peaceably for us to settle the matter.

The king of cinema

Yep, based. All Marvel cucklets BTFO from now until the end of eternity.

HAVE SEX

>this just in, a former staffer for ShareBlue finds abandoned truck full of uncounted ticket stubs for Avengers: Endgame. Early reports are saying this may push Marvel’s latest entry into the top spot for worldwide gross, and the truck contained several boxes of stubs for Captain Marvel and Black Panther as well.

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it needs only 13.6% increase

Bullshit. Disney would never stoop so low!

>I am inevitable

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Disney already bought 21 billion worth of tickets across the mcu + 10 billion for budget and marketing. they can't do this any more. Bankruptcy is around the corner

The money laundered through the tax shelter films you’ve never heard of could fund this ten times over

nah they will go bankrupt soon and we will finally claim victory.
Yea Forums always wins baby

They also bought all 13 billion pixar movies gross + star wars as well. We know no one watches them. Who are they trying to fool

Don't forget tickets were cheaper back then too

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the absolute state of Cameroncunts

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Give them a break. They just spent 220 million on aladdin's opening. Plus they have to buy 1.5 billion for Lion King as well.

It's fucking precious that regular tickets today are more expensive than 3D tickets from 10 years ago

I would fucking kill myself if I wasted that much time and effort going to see any movie especially a shitty one.

>I rate on a chinese smoke signal toon board

You can just buy a ticket and go do something else if it’s that important to you

I’m 30 and I’ve never heard anyone talk about Avatar, even once.
All my coworkers were losing their minds about the avengers. I also remember being 10 or so and everyone in the world talking about titanic.
How did avatar make that much? It’s literally never talked about or remembered outside this board

I've bought about 10 tickets for some movies that really liked and just gave them away to random people who were coming to watch it, because I can't watch a movie more than 2-3 times in quick succession even if I like it a lot.

STILL THE KING

Jesus they came close

Captain Marvel is still in some theaters. Do people really think it's done here? Do people really care?

confirmed flop
the mouse is dead
DC wins again

AND THE KING SAT UPON HIS THRONE OF GOLD
SMILING AT THE PEOPLE BELOW
FOR HE'D KNOWN THAT IN HIS LIFETIME NO ONE WOULD SURPASS HIM
BUT HE WOULD INSPIRE THE ONES AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PILE
SO THEY COULD CLIMB THE MOUNTAIN AND TAKE A SHOT AT THE THRONE
MUCH LIKE HE HAD DONE ALL THOSE YEARS AGO

STILL, HE SLEPT COMFORTABLE AND ALONE
KNOWING HE'D STAY AT THE TOP
FOR AGES TO COME
THE ONE AND ONLY KING IN THE GOLDEN THRONE

I assume most people don't care because it's just symbolic. They'll end up with very similar gross anyway. Endgame will probably be 20 million short.

>3D
>non 3D
End Game won

Bros, I want Endgame to be #1 over Avatar......

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I mean Endgame did have a lot of 3D. But it made over a billion in Asia alone where tickets are pretty cheap. 90 million tickets in China alone. So it probably sold more overall

Who gives a shit? This is Disney masturbating all over themselves.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND MECHANICAL HANDS
OR THE RULER OF EVERYTHING?
I'M THE RULER OF EVERYTHING, IN THE END

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only in the US, and making nickels

Imagine how much Avatar would've made if China was the box office treasure trove it is today in 2009. It'd have easily broken 3 billion.

of course, it would have made at least 700 million in China, which would put its total at around 3.3b

I won't give a shit about comparing the future Avatars to the capeshit I'm sure will still be going strong because more than Avatar or capeshit movies, they're all Disney movies.
For now I can be glad that the massive buildup and A+ list actor roster weren't able to beat the movie that wasn't Disney at the time.

We'll see when Avatar 2 comes out. That should make 4 billion

idk, I hate that it (and basically everything) is Disney's now, but I AM curious how the sequel will do over 10 years after the original.

Reminder that Disney almost got Avatar back then because Fox was nervous about it and thought it would be a disaster, but when Disney decided to take it Fox took it back

Well, you can't compare Spiderman to all the other Marvel shit. Spiderman is the most recognizable Marvel hero ever, and it got Endgame's push.

You should worry about the new characters that are getting their movies. Iron Man triumphed because it was more down-to-Earth, and RDJ's charisma saved the character. The Eternals look like shit, and Chinkman needs an extremely charismatic actor to pull it off.

Take a hike, bozo

Going to watch it again to cover your ticket :)

How does James do it? First it was Titanic. He managed to make a movie about a boat sinking the highest grossing of all time. Then he beat his own record by making a movie about tall blue alien people vs colonialism in 3D.

Whats the next movie he'll make that will beat his own record again?

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3D tickets becoming big back then.

I can't imagine being this autistic

HEY GUYS?

DIDN'T AVATAR TICKETS COST LIKE 30 BUCKS BECAUSE IT WAS IMAX 3D?

THERES YOUR FUCKING EXPLANATION YOU ABSOLUTE GOD DAMN RETARDS HOLY SHIT

Endgame at MOST will earn $45-50M domestically before it's taken out of theaters.

It will need to make $60-70M overseas in order to take over Avatar.

It will be close. I think it will be $10-20M behind.

Yep as someone else mentioned all that money was because the tickets were expensive, people saw it not only in 3D but in 3D Imax.

No one ever, ever talks about Avatar, it's a completely forgotten movie, but in that half a year period it was like an "event" to go see, much like a play or something, rather than your typical "movie".

And it sucked and was a ripoff of Dances with Wolves and no one mentioned it even a year later. How the fuck they're gonna shit out 5 more of these fuckers I can't imagine, these might be the biggest failures in movie history.

I don't know anyone who has mentioned Endgame, compared to people talking about Avengers 2012 constantly

Anecdotal evidence is for fags and you're an idiot

Good God...

>Yep as someone else mentioned all that money was because the tickets were expensive, people saw it not only in 3D but in 3D Imax.
disproven

What the fuck? Did you move to live under a rock this past year?

The complete opposite is the truth for MOST people. Avengers 2012 was a lower point in Marvel history, I know I stopped watching Marvel after like Iron Man 2 and didn't start again until Thor 3.
Face it, Ragnarok and Civil War and shit brought Marvel back on the map - everyone was shitting on Marvel back when Thor 2 and Avengers 2 and shit came out. Marvel's popularity was at its peak during IF, and EG.

Don't be delusional.

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I guarantee that's a ticket from Alabama or some shit, not from New York City.

Just looked up Chenal 9, fucking Arkansas lmao, of course it's dirt cheap.

TDK and Iron Man started this shit and Star Wars wasn't here yet. Muh geek nerd shit wasn't the mainstream brainwashing behemoth that it is today, so you didn't have faggots talking about box office numbers as if they were gospels of faith every time a new film came out. That's it. There was no cottage industry yet.

you're the delusional fuck
Avengers 2012 was a lot bigger in conversation
>Face it, Ragnarok and Civil War and shit brought Marvel back on the map
fucking lol

What the hell happened in China? Did they loosen up their laws or some shit?

You won't need glasses to watch Avatar 2 in 3D. It will revolutionize film-viewing, and easily break 3 billion.
This was Marvelcuck's best shot and they missed it.

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Even Guardians of the Galaxy was more talked about among normies than Endgame (post-release)

>tfw all 4 of them outsell the last one
>tfw Disney made it so by buying all of the tickets

How was Avengers a low point? It had critical acclaim and became the 3rd highest grossing movie of all time when it came out

5 more months in theaters. It has to make $100 million in 5 months

That is embarrassing, pathetic and sad.

Can I start shitposting about this with the normies? I want to trigger the marvel shills

We were all talking when Dark Knight hit a billion dollars

James Cuckmeron is extremely reddit

I don't remember hearing anyone talk about Avengers 2012 but I guess it was because I was at college partying and when people nerded out it was about more popular things like GoT.

Yes Guardians indeed, that is an exception of course. Way bigger than Avengers 2012.

Lmao yea which records were broken by pretty much every single Marvel movie since...

>what is inflation
Highest grossing film is Gone with the Wind and that capeshit flick is still a billion away from it

It’s literally the #2 selling Blu Ray of all time to this day and was nominated for Best Picture. You sound like a socially stunted retard, stop posting

mm no
only infinity war and endgame beat the first avengers

Is there a scale that adjusts for not only inflation but ticket prices? A matinee is like $12 today, hitting a billion isn’t nearly the feat it was a decade ago.

gone with the wind didn't make all its money in one run, but through decades of re releases. its original run lasted 4 years and there is no info on how many tickets it sold. not to mention the theater was the only place to watch it at that time as home video didn't exist and people didn't even have tv at home

>5.1k upboats
That's 5100 people first in line for day of the rope

I will forever stand by the fact that after all is said and done no one will give a fuck about Avengers 2012 and only 4-5 Marvel movies will be really remembered and talked about in the future (GOTG, a Captain America here, an original Iron Man there, and IF+EG as a combo)

Can you not read? The YouTube channels literally didn't exist with any sizeable audience at the time. Cuckman didn't have a million people watching his shit. Jahns still looked like a coked-out vampire. These fags didn't have networks yet and none of them were being invited to press junkets or screenings because they didn't have the audience to justify it. The cottage industry didn't exist, and no, some manlet spic obsessing over this stuff in his basement doesn't count.

I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter

I never went to Avatar, but James Cameron bought a shitload of tickets under my name. With the way that nobody talks about Avatar, I suspect this happened quite a bit.

Either way even if they get to 2.8B they haven't truly beaten Avatar. Bunch of idiots.

Care to explain in a way that doesn't make you sound like a paranoid schizo...?

>Disney bought all the Captain Marvel tickets
>Paranoid schizo
Point made.

Endgame made over a billion in Asia where tickets are fairly cheap, but unfortunately there is no data for tickets sold, but I bet it sold more overall worldwide than Avatar

The point still stands no matter the state, dumbass
Tickets were cheaper 10 years ago

The shills didn't get the memo from their supervisor.

You quoted me but I was talking about Avatar which is the #2 selling Blu Ray of all time and nominated for Best Picture. Avengers is a flash in the pan compared to that

>only
Spider-Man is a good marvel character but Disney ruined him. that much of an increase seems unlikely even if people liked memegame

Oh my bad, in that case those stats don't even matter much, the bluray was sold to idiots to justify themselves buying a 3D TV which don't even exist anymore and Best Picture was during one of those years with like 10 shitty ass nominees lol

This is easily the worst attempt at damage control that I have ever seen. Stop posting, you’re retarded

The west is doomed, DOOMED I tell you

This but unironically the other way around. I've only heard from this Avengers garbage from my 12 year old nephew and the shills on Yea Forums

This is a sad COPE if I ever seen one

>30 year old men and women at the workplace
>talking about superhero films
That's it. I give up. I hope the Muslims win the West is a fucking joke.

I agree. I can't watch my favorite films that many times

arachnoboy is gonna floppity flop

Not one single person would go see endgame if they rereleased in a few years because Capeshit is awful

>Guy says England
>You use UK
Neat.

>It will revolutionize film-viewing
Not really, as no one else will be able to do the same for at least another 10 years