Sell me on these books

Feast is the comfiest book don’t even @ me

they are overrated. Look at the fandom. THey dont discuss what was so great about the books, they discuss what they think is going to happen in the next one based on their overcomplicated fan theory. The third book is only seens as good because of all the twists. The series sucks, the characters are not interesting if you read actually non fiction and understand how important people from the past actually acted and thought like. Dont waste your time

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99.9% of cases books are better than the shows or movies. This is because with a book you can go more in depth about things and storylines and aren't limited by time whereas in a movie or show you are. Something you don't quite understand? There will be a chapter explaining the whole fucking thing at one point. Plus the books are 500+ pages. They lay out more groundwork and detail than what you would find in the show. Also you get the authors direct storytelling rather than someone elses writing.

There is still a good amount of story that was told, you retard. Now what was the point of your stupid question?

so is everything until it isnt

Its a little bit better than the show. People have been praising the books ever since the show past the books and so they cant compare the show to the books. But the show actually did a lot of things better than the last two books. If you have watched the show, you dont need to read the books. Everything will play out the same except for a few differences. But yes, the White Walkers will be defeated and then Dany will attack Kings Landing or some other city, then Jon will kill her and then it will be over.

>rewind to 3 years ago

dude why should i watch the show? it's incomplete!

Martin spent two paragraphs describing in detail how a procession of horses was arranged in the second book, where each individual character was placed in it. It was completely and utterly irrelevant to anything.

it's a story not a math problem dipshit, all the fun is in the tangents

>This is because...
most books aren't written by TV writers.

The show isn't made by a severely overweight 70 year old whose last entry in the series was written 8 years ago, who currently estimates each of the last 2 books to be longer than the entirety of Lord of the Rings.

don't bother until the fat fuck finishes them

Can't say I see the fun in a tangent that blandly describes how Cersei was riding behind Joffrey, who was riding next to Sansa, while the hound was 2 horses behind next to Meryn Trant.

what's your point? i'd rather a story be great and take a life time than be filmed in a year and be utter fucking shit

Been years since I've read the books. Wonder if I'm remembering this correctly. Was there a chapter where some student at the Citadel gets literally melted by magic? What ever came of that?

your loss doubles dude

why would i try to sell you on that garbage? read Shakespeare or Cervantes you pleb

that doesn't happen, unless you mean the scene where a faceless man kills some kid, but they don't specify he gets melted

why would he waste time on that garbage? imagine believing in "the canon" because you were told do. Cervantes is ok but spearbro is a hack.

That there is a very substantial chance that he will die and the series will never finish, making your comparison a truly idiotic one.

omg two full paragraphs? you must be exhausted holy shit i mean two paragraphs....woah.....damn

Is the Hound and Arya storyline anywhere as good as the show?

>Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

ok retard

Must be remembering it wrong.

nah it's still a pretty good comparison. hell, dany almost died during the show. just because plans can be disrupted doesn't make them bad.

>if i quote trash i'll... prove my point?

better considering sandor's arc hasn't been ruined yet

Characters are developed more and don’t turn retarded and get themselves killed

fat
pink
mast

your first two points stand, but they certainly get themselves killed.

ok buddy retard

OP do not listen to this faggot he is most assuredly a shill

>THey dont discuss what was so great about the books, they discuss what they think is going to happen in the next one
maybe because they aren't finished

>Tolkien, F Scott Fitzgerald, the list goes on!

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>Shit, a valid criticism
>I could just accept that maybe the guy that keeps deciding his series needs more books to finish has some problems with brevity
>But fuck that, this fella has insulted a series that I like, ME. How dare he, gotta bust out the passive aggression on this guy
Please learn to take criticism, especially when it's not directed at you, but at a multimillionaire who couldn't give the slightest fuck what you or I think about anything. It's certainly not the only time he pads things out, though it was the most egregious I've encountered yet.

I thought Yea Forums stood for transvestites?

If TWOW comes next year ADOS should only take another 5 or 6 years after that, assuming it's a simpler task for him to write it. I doubt he'll die that soon.

You sound asspain'd but lemme explain. Two paragraphs explaining something trivial in a book series that average 500+ pages is literally fucking nothing. Probably takes less than a minute to read it, I mean, maybe for you it takes longer but it literally doesn't matter it's such a non issue and not even an actual valid criticism

>read Don Quixote and Shakespeare's dramas
>"oh no I have nothing to read anymore!"
There's more to the written word than highly celebrated classics.

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Nah, he just slowly loses the feeling of his legs

he's never going to finish, user

In book #3 Jorah walks in on Daenerys feeding her dragons in her bed and he straight up kisses her and touches her tits

The first three books are excellent, especially Storm of Swords. The quality goes down a bit for the last two books. The most interesting thing about them is the new characters like Euron and the Dorne POV stuff (both of which the TV show completely changed and imo for the worse). Meanwhile the characters we already know from the first three books feel kinda stuck in place and take absolutely ages to do anything. I feel like in the early books something significant happened every chapter. Then we get to book 4 and all of a sudden I'm reading 5 chapters of Brienne and Podrick wandering round and achieving nothing. Overall though I still think I prefer the book story to the route the TV show took.

Sandor is a much better, more fleshed out character in the books. Arya is as well, instead of just being a lolmurderassassin

The shows get progressively worse over time after the red wedding (all d&d cared about)

The books get progressively better

One word: Darkstar

But you're right you faggot

yes because all the mongoloids obsessed with GOT have read proust, kafka, joyce, celine, and mccarthy.

audible kek friend

The issue with the last two books is he couldn't keep up the pace of releasing new books, the last book he released was basically 100% setup for Winds, but it's been almost a decade and still no fucking release in sight.

reading books is gay

>low budget

Why is Jorah so based in the books?

They're better than the show, but the series will never be finished. There's no point to reading them.

>using TV stills as book covers
Name a single literature practice more disgusting

>A Dance with Dragons
>lots of setup for the battle between the Targaeryens
>the battle doesn't happen till the next book.
Bravo GRRM. At this rate winter won't come in The Winds of Winter either.

TWOW coming soon, save up some change for it

In general it tells the story in a very interesting way. He uses POV characters to tell the story, and they have limited information, understanding, and their own biases so if you want the whole story you have to pay attention to background details. We never get the POV of a king's perspective, Daenary's is the only monarch to have POV chapter. So a lot of their decisions and thinking can be ambiguous. Things like Renly being gay are not overwhelmingly obvious in the books, and there is obviously a lot of plots going on that the characters aren't aware of. This limited information is why fan theories are so popular.
The better parts are
>Much more detail on why things are happening and the world they are in
>Very few plots are just completely wasted as in the show, he usually tries to have a payoff for everything besides food descriptions and even those are sometimes relevant
>The magic and fantasy are infinitely better done and actually are taken seriously
>The scheming is much better with limited information and being inside character's heads

Soon! Anytime in the next five years now! GET HYPE!

It's real this time

I'm sure you have a respectable set of literary insight and knowledge beyond posting authors on a Mongolian Milkshake forum

Stop reading after Storm of Swords. The last two are boring as shit.

What if he dies?

At the time they came out they were edgy because it was fantasy written for adults

Now every fantasy writer tries to be dark and edgy and ends up just being cringe so I give Martin credit for doing it right for at least three books
the fourth being where things start to go off the rails

Books 1-3 build the world and the story flows seamlessly. Books 4-5 are just lore+ and they don't push the story too much because the fuck fuck decided to make one book for half the characters and the other for the other half. So you end up rewinding in 5 just to see what the others were doing in all this time. I have a love-hate relationship with these books.

ANYTIME NOW!!! THIS TIME IT'S REAL TOO!!! I'M SO EXCITED I CAN'T SIT STILL!!!!

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If he dies we get the rough versions of the last 2 books regardless

>The ship groaned and growled beneath him like a constipated fat man straining to shit.

Wel, then...

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>Books are bad because people are excited for the next one despite knowing it may never come out
>In a lore that is constantly teasing new shadow rulers and conspiracies within it's world
If you don't like them that's on you, but these books are really good considering the genre is Tolkien or nothing.

>the fourth is when it starts going off the rails

Fuck you, I liked it. 2=3>4>1

FUCK YOU FUCKING FAGGOT FUCK YOU

I don't think your average GoT reader claims to be an authority on high literature. You should know Kafka, Proust, Hemingway, Goethe never wrote with the intention of accessibility.
ASoIaF is genre fiction written for the purpose of story-telling. It's merits are not based on the exploration of metaphysics or the highest functions of language.
Honestly, the value comparison of classical literature and genre-fiction of any kind is empty. Two wildly different arts that appeal to two different appetites and readers can have different appetites.

>rough versions of the last 2 books
user, I...

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>I know the future
Kys faggot

Martin lies, I admit that

Well at least we won't get the retarded Battle of the Bastards, because Stannis will liberate Winterfell from Ramsey in the books.

>Two paragraphs
Imagine being this much of a brainlet

asoiaf is not one of those books

Literally what has he been doing all this time?

Well that's honest, Stephen king used to say the same about his dark tower. It's their work, however shit it may end up being. It's us who must decide if it's worthy or not.

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What site is this?

It's from GRRM's "not a blog"

>imagine being this dense
the order in which you ride determines your importance, king in front, crown prince second, queen third and so on, it gives you information about the social order if you aren't too stupid to realize it

Yeah it's real this time cause this show's fall lit a fire under his ass for real

I honestly don't see how that could be the case. The books have already set lots of characters down paths that are very different from the TV show. I'm thinking of things like Lady Stone Heart, Euron Greyjoy, The Dornish Master Plan, Young Griff and Rickon Stark. Even if the book and show have some similarities there is plenty of material here that will be totally different. Hell there are already entire character arcs that the show didn't include. If you care about this world and these characters then books are definetly worth reading.

I think op is asking from the shows point of view. Would the books be worth reading to someone that enjoyed the show? There reworded it to fit in Yea Forums.

The only thing I'm expecting in the books is king bran

TOP LOL

Where did this come from? Did this fat motherfucker shared it or it's a leak?

YEAH, HE HATED THE SHOW'S ENDING, IT TOTALLY MOTIVATED HIM TO... Ok, fuck it, enough of this. Stop defending the fat fuck. If, IF, we get TWoW, it won't be for another year at the very least, but it's way more likely that we'll get nothing for a few more years. He said he liked the show's ending, the book would end essentially the same, so if anything the show was a trial run for the reception his big ending he's been working towards for years now, and he's probably less motivated to write it than he was before(and he wasn't, he said before that the series had become a monkey on his back). ADWD was 1000 pages and took six years to write, and he wasn't producing shows left and right back then. The next one is supposed to be 1500 pages, which should logically take 9 years, but now that he's busy producing, who fucking knows.

allegedly most of the battles were meant to be in dance, but that would've made the length too long for his editor's taste so they pushed them to winds, assuming winds would be out in a reasonable timeframe

fuck you grrm

>memespeare
Yikes!

It's going to take a hell of a lot of setup to make that ending make sense

dany chapters are the best ones if youre into prophecy. the books make it seem like the show ending is going to be different.
i hope she gets the red door