Next GoT

First was good. Second book was self insert as fuck (I fucked the sex goddess for months, then became a ninja....while also fucking all the hot ninjas).
I would argue being a Gary-Stu though, yeah he is good at everything, but he also is retarded and fucks himself over a lot.

Yeah desu I hope he ends it now just because he’s such an unreliable nigger about his publishing dates
You aren’t wrong. That sword training bit was like he tapped into what I masturbated to as an 8 year old. It was like that “bags of sand” scene from 40 year old virgin. Sounded like he had no idea how humans bone

Any source on him whining about Trump? That sounds funny af

>writer is old and fat
>can't finish what they started
>always talking about some random barely relevant shit online
>tfw you tried reading it again but realized it was really shitty
Give me my Malazan tv show please and thank you

>Sounded like he had no idea how humans bone
what tipped you off?

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*blocks your path*

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blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2016/11/the-obligatory-election-blog/

Told her that it was this election. It’s ruining me. It’s all I can think about.”

Very true. The writing around Denna annoys me because you would have to be the most mongoloid of retards to not see that both of them are super into eachother, I mean ffs she even said as much when she was high off the resin or whatever.
And yet it's the stupid trope of neither will do anything since they are scared of scaring the other person off. It might work if he wrote them hiding their feelings better.
This is of course assuming she isn't a Chandrian agent.

Wish I could understand the hype about this one. It's a painful read. Bought it based on the name and popularity, four attempts later I still haven't finished it. There's always something that pisses me right off and makes me feel like throwing the book out of the window.

Denna is basically the fantasy equivalent of a manic pixie dream girl.

i think the whole point is that the first 2 books he has to be a gary stu, in order for the 3rd book to unravel all his faults

Two of my friends keep trying to get me to read it is it actually good?

>It’s all I can think about.

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No. We don't need them ruining something good.

Patrician taste. There were some talks about Black Company being optioned for Amazon. I hope GoT didn't fuck up fantasy books going into the future.

Are you drinking the kool-aid to such a severe degree as to sincerely believe this or are you fucking with me?

No. First was good.
Second was okay, I liked the pirates.
Third was pretty shit. I was so interested in how they would fuck with the election, and it was barely touched on. Plus now the direction of the series seems to be on a path to take away what made it good in the first place. I liked that Locke was just a dude and nothing else. Now he is what? Some reincarnation of the greatest bondsmage ever? Gee I wonder if he will learn magic.
And that fucking last scene ripped right out of a Saturday morning cartoon show? Stupid. Robo-Falconer....wtf was he thinking.

Nah, give me some Brandon Sanderson with some complete stories and enough uniqueness to not just be generic epic fantasy #24875.

is this shit good. it started with "i'm le ebin guy who has killed people and done cool shit and fucked hot girls" and I made it like 3 chapters in before I stopped giving a shit

I really just want a Book of the New Sun series for that really hot scene where the main character rapes the hot chick in the boat.
I was diamonds

Nah, her current master is obviously the agent. And is also obviously the guy who befriended Kvothe while he was chilling at the Duke's.

What's his face who poisoned Kvothe is going to somehow end up king.

I stopped reading about halfway through book 2 so I didn't know. Heard it was worse than the first 2 but what? Magic?

It's total 14-year old self-insertion garbage

>sex fairies
>sex ninjas
>m'lady main character

Fucking awful

cant wait for them to fuck it up

His relationship with the main woman character is fucking cringe. It's so neckbeard / nice guy

DEM KEEDZ ROLAND, SALLACAN THANKABOWT

Don't forget when he first got out of the fairy world and fucked that hot barmaid for a few days

HBO needs to redo Sword of Truth. Legend of the Seeker was a travesty compared to the books, and might as well have been a completely different franchise.

It sounds to me like you just hate the second book, given all of those concerns revolve around the plot of that one novel
As far as it goes the ninja people were retarded but I guess it served to show that the character sucks at sword fighting and he used magic to stop the wind

>teenagers act like teenagers

You're supposed to be frustrated user, their relationship is a pretty accurate depiction of people their age. Also Denna sucks and her nose is crooked, Kvothe x Fela is the OTP.

So shit actors and a shit finale ok

he will never finish this

Oh that was way better than the fairy, his details about the maids tits were dope

Falconers mom basically tells Locke he's the reincarnation of the most powerful bondsmagi who tried to make himself immortal, and as a result he has no memory.
This might have been her fucking with him though for what he did to Falconer since it drove off Sabetha again.

Literally stop propping up shit genre fiction. Rothfussnis fucking terrible. Far worse than Martin and Martin is pretty bad. At least go for something with half way competent writing like The Prince of Nothing, Malazan, or even fucking Elder Scrolls. I don’t give a fuck anymore. Just don’t touch Wolfe, Lafferty, Zelazny, or Peake

The problems were all there in the first book - Denna etc - but the second book really kicked it into overdrive

The ninja thing was retarded even without the sex. Oh it's a secret nation of ninjas who never accept outsiders, but in this case oh yeah sure why not let's teach this random dude all our secrets

>Sanderson

I might be able to tolerate his writing if every 3rd word wasn't some made up generic sounding fantasy bullshit. GRRM and Rothfuss both use made up words, but neither of them sound like they're sucking their own dick about it so constantly.

Fuck that, first book was alright but the second one was garbage.

I just want pic related to get adapted.

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>Elder Scrolls

I sure hope this is a joke

He's making progress as of 2 months ago, that and he said over a year ago that the manuscript was essentially written, but he "dismantled" it and was trying to "put the pieces" back together. Depression is a hell of a drug.

>Elder Scrolls
>competent writing

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At least the shit he makes up is an integral part of the worldbuilding, concurrent themes, and overall plot as opposed to random shit thrown in there that ultimately doesn't matter or connect to anything else in the end.

Shallan and her stupid quips are killing Stormlight for me. Tell me she gets better

>ninjas

Name one aspect of the Adem that correlates to ninjas
>never accept outsiders but lets teach this random dude
They taught him because the only other choice was to kill him and exile Tempi.

The entire Adem section was excellent worldbuilding, you have no taste and are not of the Lethani.

>dumb pathetic wizard cuck has sex with a harem of empowered sluts including a literal god of sex

vs

>alpha cuck wizard fucks his own daughter and spits in the face of the literal actual prophesied messiah at the height of his political power in front of all his constituents thereby emotionally, spiritually and mentally cucking the messiah into letting him walk away alive

I still have to finish wheel of time but there is only one king amongst the grimdark fantasy and that's Bakker, you fags

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Worst book I've ever read.

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>Use snopes to see if Hillary actually did all those universally accepted war crimes that even Obama couldn’t stomach so he fired her GOY!
>Don’t vote for Trump even tho I voted for Perot because it was a way to rebel against the establishment and now you have someone that actually win to do that
Like seriously this guy admits he voted for Perot and then says well you should vote for politicians because they have experience and even though they have betrayed you every time they could, they’re REALLY good at it you fuckin Shabbos goy

>not of the Lethani
I'm kind of sad this will never be a meme

No it's awful.

imagine how much they'd fuck malazan up. tattersail alone would be a mess

nah, i'm not as big a fan of the books as i was a few years ago, but i can still see what he was going for. all im saying is if the third book is much better than the first or the second then he will probably have redeemed himself

>random shit thrown in there that has no impact

>t. Read the books one time and was too simple to see/understand the absolutely ridiculous amount of foreshadowing, double meanings, and hidden connections

Barbarians do not have the Lethani, they could never understand.

>prince of nothing
my nigger

>being this much of a lorelet

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Fuck no. It lacks all the things that made GoT popular, but has the same problem that Asoiaf has:
>fat neckbeard piece of shit writer cant finish his story

this, at least Achamian fucked his whore constantly

>given that he can't even get the third one out.
I adored "Name of the Wind" when I read it first in 2009. I highly enjoyed the sequel, but it had flaws, like others describe in this thread, some things are described "wrong", like the sex or fight scenes.

Then I read that he finally got a gf and got married and got her pregnant. Suddenly the beta male peacocking escapism is not needed anymore and its been almost a decade since the last book. Typical beta male behaviour.

>second book where Kvothe gets laid and nothing else happens

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hey someone actually likes this

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The biggest issue with this book isn't even all the ninja sex shit, it is the fact that everytime we are in the middle of a story arc it gets abandoned and the book moves forward to a new arc.

it helps too that esme is actually an interesting and realistic character. i need to do a re-read but really the only disappointing thing about her is that bakker never actually backs up the fact that she is "preternaturally intelligent" other than the ipso facto she's still alive and somewhat sane while being surrounded by goddamn dunyain for decades

>mfw the skin spy says he wants her cunny

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Based.
Second trilogy in September First Law bro.

these names are kind of fucking with my head

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Everyone else their age seems to be fine

>not Kvothe x Devi
fucking pleb

I agree with most of this, but I thought the falconer was fine, it's not like it wasn't set up

I unironically want Devi to paralyze me with her mind and then rape me, which I'm pretty sure is what Rothfuss was fantasizing about in that scene

yeah i always got the impression that Kellhus just wanted to cuck Achamian to keep his hooks in him. but i suppose a good whore would be a good reader of people

Nope she gets worse

Great first book with awful sequels
I cant get over how the writer turned a noble and just character into mass murdering genocidal psychopath in a matter of weeks, he got it worse than Danny in Got finale, at least she killed or ordered killing of hundreds before, Locke couldnt even bring himself to send one person he hates to death unjustly

if she's not playing Devi I ain't watching

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Huh? You mean he might be responsible for the catchfire plague?

>Worst book I've ever read.
Same.
No joke i hate read it to the end, i dropped many books i didnt like before, but this one made me so angry i just had to finish it to see how much more it can piss me off
How does does a edgy Harry Potter rip off turn into porn is beyond me, second book was just him fucking everything that didnt run away.

Well it ended up being that she was the only one who could actually sire dunyain. IIRC there is a throwaway mention of all the different mistresses he cycled through to get more kids but they always died/made monstrosities. She was like the 1 in a million normie woman that could handle his powerful pure dunyain seed.

god damn that's good news. GUess I need to re-read. Its been years. I could actually see this getting a decent adaptation too and would love to see the inquisitor realized on screen. Best character.

If only this could get some recognition

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A monster Hunter clone?

The story you mong which is amazin

They'd make her black, thin and flat.

Even though Malazan is one of the most diverse worlds without shoving it in your face, you know that's what would happen.

I haven't read Silmarillion, can someone explain why Hobbit/LotR/Silmarillion books covers often have sun-behind-mountains graphic? Is there symbol behind it?

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all those covers were designed by the same guy

Listen to the audiobook as a reference

Kvothe is the biggest Gary Stu in history.

The whole fairy sex scene chapters read like they were written by a retarded neckbeard.

devi is the only reason worth reading the books. she's the only character in the whole series that makes sense

>I grabbed her tit and it felt like a... bag of sand

Kek

He regularly used to repost retarded buzzfeed articles about trans stuff on fb.

He's the ultimate neckbeard white knight. It's funny that he paints himself as a big progressive when all his female characters are one dimensional and Kvothe himself seems like a Gary Stu written by a horny teenager.

You just have a fetish for nerdy petite femdom goth girls

>goth girls
she isn't goth at all, she's described as a preppy chick if anything.. and she's way counter culture. other than that, yes :)

Looks like cloakshit's back on the menu, boys

is there any way to write sex into a book without having it come off a shit? honestly..

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In the Silmarillion the sun literally sets behind the mountains in Valinor. It then goes under the earth back to the east where it rises.

Theres like 8 fucking pages of sex in a 1000 page book, what is your deal? Book 2 spends more time dealing with vintish court politics than it does sec.

I doubt people will be as invested in a harem anime about student loans.

God I want a big tittied asian gf

Cast exclusively feminine K-Pop idols, and I assure you people would.

Why was I able to read the Silmarillion in one week but I've spent my whole life failing to read past the midway point of Two Towers?

Every straight man does.

Maybe true, but the sex parts are so cringy that they ruin everything else
>dude thousand hands lmao
>dude sex play lmao
>dude the barmaid was just as good a fuck as the literal sex goddess who taught me to fuck lmao
Just pure shit

This is required reading in all the geek circles around here (Stevens Point) since a lot of the nerd folk actually know the guy, his original manuscripts were getting passed around before he was published, a friend of mine still has one of the pre-publication copies he forgot to give back. It was a pretty big deal when this actually took off. I got a copy of this for my birthday but I'm a shit that doesn't really read much so I never got around to it.

stop right there

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Because the silmarillion was edited and published by christopher tolkien. J.R.R. was a linguist, not a writer.

ARCHED PHALLUSES

Sounds like you have tfw no gf user. Ill concede they weren't the best parts of the book, but I really can't see how those parts can specifically make you dislike the book if you liked it up to that point. Personally I really like the books, but I could understand if someone didn't like the writing style, or the characters, or the lore. Hating it just because 2% of the second book contains some scenes you couldn't relate to seems kinda spergy.

it really bleeds into the rest of Kvothe's writing though.. that's the problem. idk, something about Kvothe's writing in the second book made me really angry. like... he's just so cocky and retarded, idk man..

Feist has written so much there’s 20 seasons of material.

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true, but no one in tv has patience to commit to 20 series of high fantasy stories

Get the FUCK outta the way. The show is already in production. 30 seasons guaranteed. The epic fantasy genre ended here. Everything after is just trying to pick up its scraps. Wheel of Time is Lord of the Rings done right.

The only fantasy series that even comes close is Guardians of Ga'Hoole

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But he's cocku and retarded in both books with the exception of his time in Tarbean. Even Rothfuss once described his outburst at Lorren as a "hissy fit"

He's like 15 years old, its how they act. I can respect you disliking those character traits more than disliking the fact that he fucked a few bitches though.

i just think it's bad writing, and i don't think i have ever met a 15 year old that is as retarded as kvothe is despite how "smart" he is

I feel like ot could work maybe as an anthology series where each season is a different saga. That way could pick and choose the best ones.

>30 seasons guaranteed
most of it is filler and descriptions, also they're going to fuck it up with diversity shit

I like that, some obviously better than others

>diversity is our strength

>fuck it up with diversity

Hope the Adem get burnt down in the lat book of the trilogy, arrogant with no reason to be

Agreed. 95% of the book is great, but the Denna "relationship" is gross to read.

>that spoiler

fucking based and owlpilled

>He's like 15 years old, its how they act.
He doesn't act like a 15 year old most of the time, so it's sort of jarring when he "reverts" to childlike behaviour

lol rothfuss

>Implying Rothfuss or Martin are better than Elder Scrolls writing.
They’re honestly on the same level. And at least Tamriel has some originality to it in terms of races, pantheon, and their take on demons

Now this one seems interesting.

Zelazny is my favourite author. I'm going to have to get into Wolfe more, just finished the Fifth Head of Cerberus/

>And at least Tamriel has some originality

>The thinks he has the next GoT when the lead isn't female in 2019

No nigga, if anything has the potential to be blown up it's this crap.

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Is this the cuck who sings for a whore and gloats when other guys fuck her?

Rothfuss and Sanderson are cancer, they write to appeal to the tabletop/MMO crowd and it shows

I just hope the Koloss don't look too fake

Have you read anything else by Joe Abercombie? I liked the First Law trilogy, except the anticlimactic ending that was intentionally left open.

I read Best Served Cold recently and it's one of the worst books I've ever read in my life. It's like it was written by an edgy teenage boy. Even worse than the worst of Rothfuss. Not sure if I can ever stomach another Abercrombie again after that pile of shit.

The next GoT is probably just going to be the fuckin' Lord of the Rings series isn't it?

>Malazan
>Competent
Fun game with those books. Take a drink every time the word pathos is mentioned.

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It's already pretty diverse with lots of female characters and multiple cultures, but yeah they'll fuck it up.

I tried reading Mistborn and I thought it was really boring. It's one of the few books I actually stopped reading.

How do all these fantasy books get popular? Do all these fantasy authors have some kind of pre-built internet following or do the publishers actually work at marketing them?

First book was solid. Great building of characters and the world.
Second book had based C'taeth. Everything else was shit.

Easy. Be a pulp author from the 1950's.

They literally made some autistic /vg/ user's wood elf head canon official after he spammed it on reddit enough.

Elder Scrolls lore might have been high tier back in the peak druggy Kirkbride days but now come on.

>I tried reading Mistborn and I thought it was really boring
That's because it is boring. The only time the first book is even remotely interesting is when the streetrat girl lead is faking at being a nobleborn and getting her spaghetti everywhere. Before that and after, total shit.

>pathos
>gelid
>detritus
>hissed
>ochre
>demesne
>propitiations
>epicanthic
>preternatural
I love Erikson but he does have a boner for certain words

I like the 2nd era Wax and Wayne stuff more. It's just fun and creative with the use of magic, no pretensions of grandeur.

Fantasy is piss easy to write so YA novelists have all their ducks in a row.

I remember somewhere in book 1 when pathos was hit multiple times in the span of two pages. What the absolute fuck?

guessing word of mouth on interest circles like Yea Forums, reddit, cons ect. half of what i've read has come from Yea Forums threads or 'top 100 novel' lists

The first was pretty good but this one was not

People are trying to get Wheel of Time off the ground, and in this age of woke bullshit it ticks all the boxes that would make a studio exec salivate.
They might fuck it up trying to make it progressive or some shit but that isn't going to stop the attempt.

Mistborn just Avatar the Last Airbender but with powers based on alchemy elements.

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Reddit the book

My heart is broken that Pratchett is dead since even alzheimers Discworld is still more enjoyable than most fantasy I read.

I thought raising steam was an ok conclusion, everyone got a cameo

Well yeah, I wasn't completely shitting on the later books. They had some noticeable fuckery but I still enjoyed them a lot, mild shame that it ended on a Tiffany Aching book just 'cause I'm not that wild about the witches in general but it was still nice. Got my fingers crossed the Amazon adaptation of Good Omens will be enjoyable at least.

they are also doing a tv series about the Watch, but i'm not hopeful

I like Granny and Nanny, never read any of the tiffany ones, cause yea don't really care, I do wish weatherwax had had a few more cameos in the Watch stories tho, I don't think she ever met Vimes

Booktube. It’s an sjw circle jerk where 20-60 yr old bitter feminists talk about how great shitty YA novels are because they “identify with the characters” or the novel presents “a really unique and inclusive perspective”

I'm not either. Especially if they try to make it a new/unique thing rather than an adaptation from the books. I've mostly enjoyed the TV movies/miniseries they've done of Discworld (Going Postal and Hogfather being really pretty good, Color of Magic being tolerable except for super goddamnn weird casting) but I'd be really leery on just doing a show about the Watch. I would've been more okay with it if Pratchett was alive and involved, but doing it without him keeping an eye on it I just dunno.

I think you may be right, I don't remember Granny and Vimes bumping into one another.

Granny and Mustrum are fuck buddies but it would've been nice to have a scene with her and Vetinari or Vimes, would've been hilarious seeing Vetinari and Granny the two biggest control freaks trying to out control the other

I was looking for some decent fantasy/medieval graphic novels and all the lists are shit like
>this author has strong female characters
>this one using them/ they pronouns
etc. it was awful, anyway I had to find old lists and found stuff like the black dragon and northmen, good stuff

I hope Denna just offs herself by the end of it, and that's what throws Kvothe into a depression. She's such an awful character, holy shit

>It's total 14-year old self-insertion garbage
>Gary Stu in Hogwarts
>Denna is basically the fantasy equivalent of a manic pixie dream girl.

These are are perfectly valid critiques and yet I still liked the books. Honestly, if sexual awkwardness and Muh Chosen One tropes drive you nuts you might as well ignore 90% of the fantasy genre.

I can forgive a fantasy author for being an autist or being derivative. Refusing to finish the fucking story is another matter entirely.

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I'd be ok with pic related being the new GOT. It's edgy, and kind of dumb in places, but a decent read
The Mags scene was actually hard to read

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So if I throw enough strong, ethnic, genderqueer sues into my fantasy novel, I can manipulate these people into marketing for me?

GRRM is more likely to finish his series than this weirdo.

Honestly, the worst part of these books is how much Rothfuss fellates himself over the "silence of three parts"

that whole trilogy is suppose to be a prequel

Was it? It wrapped itself up pretty well by the end, the only thread I can think of off the top of my head would be Trudana Jadwin. We also got the Durzo prequel book, too

the dual in 10 years would be a major one, also the forest and the sword and staff are still their, also the red kk is still around, and the silver one iirc

Didn't Durzo chuck the red into a volcano? I haven't read the series in a while
Also, the whole Ezra's Wood thing doesn't really need to be elucidated on in any way, the Beast reclaimed both Iures and Curoch and went home

Yes. You'll probably win a hugo.

you realize the beast is the Wizard right? anyway the author said its a prequel, but he's writing those prism books so hasn't gotten back to it

If I'm going to read some fat neckbeard's masturbatory self-insert fantasy, it has to be better written than that.

I recall not being repulsed by the way it was written in The Fault in Our Stars.

Next GoT is The Wheel of Time.

The real next GoT coming through

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excellent trips

I liked book 1, book two is great up until they defeat the bandits. The parts of the books in the fae and with the adem give good plot details/worldbuilding but you read it and know that Rothfuss never got laid in high school

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impossible to do live action thank god

Bad series. Entire second book is just the characters stumbling over themselves going in random directions until Vin shows up and solves everything in a couple pages. It really felt like a first draft where he was just brainstorming ideas.
Wax and Wayne is leagues better.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No.

A Diskworld show was made though. It's called Adventure Time.

GoT is for basedboys anyway.

She is good in the second book and her plot is interesting. Then she becomes worse than ever in the third book. I hope she goes back to being interesting in the later ones.

Next GoT is this.
youtube.com/watch?v=0Qz8L4KaTss

I honestly can't get myself to finish reading the first book. I have tried a few times but I just can't read it.

I enjoyed this series. Maybe I was stupid and didn't notice but a lot of the twists in it surprised me. I didn't get that in his other series, but this one genuinely got me a few times. You can tell it is a little less polished then his other books but I might like it more because of that.

I really didn't like her in 3, I guess she was ok in 2, I did like in 3 how she got btfo by the beggar boy
>no your not helping you stupid bitch you've made my already shitty life a living hell

Its even more r3ddit than got

yikes

Hyperion man

Everyone recommends this guy's stuff. I read about 50 pages from the first Stormlight book and it seemed like ok-but-not-great YA fiction. Should I give it another try?

Leftists are too stupid to get through these books.

There just honestly is no way this series could ever be made into a series. It would have to be animated, if anything. Which is good.

no satan, its all YA tier stuff I mean generally they are a very easy read, and BS can't help having these "epic" conclusions which are usually pretty fun, but it is very much YA tier, all of it

I was really pleased, and surprised that he actually did that for the character that had a bunch of other shit handwaved for them. She really got btfo there and was pretty crushed. I guess she herself wasn't the most interesting in book 2, but the stuff around her was interesting, I like Pattern and the people she hangs around with I guess, not really her. The chad Adolin deserves better though, but whatever.

It is pretty good, it takes a while to get into. I like them for what they are, a nice fantasy series with good world building and such. If you don't like them then that is ok too. They aren't as crazy detailed as the Malizan books or anything. They are kinda like popcorn fantasy and they are nothing complicated.

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and its squeal Endymion where a Florida swamp man goes on a multi planet adventure with his underage girlfriend

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For something to be the "next GoT" it would need to have normie appeal, which the Malazan books don't have.

Unironically yes. You could probably ink a sweet boom deal in the process. I’m not lying when I say I’ve legitimately considered doing this just for the shekels.

Adolin and Dalanar are the only ones I care about, also Dalanars wife I guess she's pretty great, its gonna be good when Adolin finally wakes up his sword and gets powers

just make sure your slaves are black otherwise they'll cancel your book even if you're a poc yourself. although making slaves black is also probably racist

Like fuck am I writing about slaves in 2019. But I'm gonna do that other shit.

Those two are the best ones. Kaladin was good in the first book but he started to annoy me in the second one and the third one he was hardly in it but still managed to be a bit annoying. Dalanar is based as fuck though and I also can't wait for edgedancer Adolin. It would be pretty cool if he started to wake up and heal the other swords too.

Name of the wind is trash. Most of the book is just him trying to find enough money for tuition, it’s really bad. The conceit on the story is that he has 3 days to tell his life story, and decides to take 1 day to talk about how he paid for magic school

nah he's a dustbringer

I heard these are confusing reads. preach me the truth brothers.

based

His sword is one of the ones for an edgedancer isn't it? Pretty sure it is.

A lot of people claim that. I think it's all the names maybe. I didn't think it was too bad. There's a character reference at the beginning of each book if you need it.

idk, edge dancer would work better I guess with the whole dualist thing, but dustbringers are suppose to be the 'dark' ones, and adolins a murderer

Caspere knew this

the first book explains little but is still a great read, you're basically dumped right into the middle of everything without being told whats happening and some of the magic isn't explained for example how the big bad tyrant is captured by the thing thats suppose to be his own source of power. 2nd book is great though and the whore series is worth reading

They can be a bit confusing simply because the cast is so big and someone mentioned like 4 times then not again for say a whole book tends to have you lose track of them. It is a worth while read though.

It somehow drops you in the middle of things while the actual plot doesn't start until the 4th book.

Most of them are murderers at some point. It doesn't matter about the dark or the light or whatever one that fits his personality either, since he won't have to go through those trials since he is just going to heal his sword. To be honest I was a little disappointed in it being an edgedancer sword instead of one of the other ones we haven't seen much of when it could have been literally any one of them. There is just no way he won't be made some form of radiance though. He just doesn't have the past trauma really to qualify for that shit right now so it is being bipassed by him fixing his sword up.

Based

The Heroes is by far the best one of the stand alone books and compares quite nicely to the trilogy. Red Country is worth the read for Logen returning but besides that it's nothing to brag about.

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yea you're right

>Implying Cuckbride is a good writer
>Implying c0da wasn't mostly terrible
>Implying the trail of Vivec does not read as some fanfiction.net "My OC is super special" garbage
>Implying Todd was not completely based for making it non-canon

That said I do like the greater cosmology in general, and I will say he Kirk had the right idea black people totally would have attempted to enslave and genocide the other races if they were in a position of power it's just what everyone does.

unless being a murderer is the trauma he has to get over and that coincides with fixing the sword

Post a better fantasy character than Logen Ninefingers. Protip there is only on. Let's see if you guess it.

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REAL talk assuming 8-10 episode seasons

S1 = book 1
S2 = book 2
S3 = book 3 with some of TSR leaking in on the last episodes
S4&S5 = books 4-6
S6&S7 = book 7 -10, and a portion of Gather Storm
S8 = TGS and some TM
S9 = TM and some AMOL
S10 = AMOL it would even be fine to be a 6 episode season just make sure the last battle is 3 episodes long.

He doesn't seem to be upset about it though.

been a while since i read it, i thought he wasn't happy with what he did.

Did the television show even get to the communist empire?

They're HORRIBLE books.

>hi im the main character and im pretty epic. one time i hid in some rose bushes while mommy got raped and it made me so fucking epic. look, i'm the leader of this band and when you question me and how fucking epic i am it kinda... pisses me off? alright?

couldn't really get past this shit

Instead of goblins lets have rape goblins with upsettingly humanish faces. and instead of dwarves lets have really pretty bald marblesque giant mages that rape. and instead of demons lets have rape aliens from ?outer space?. and the regular humans? Oh yeah they rape.

Its pretty dark high fantasy with tiny dash of sci-fi and heavily steeped in philosophy thats easy enough for pleb like me to understand. There's no typical LOTR callouts, instead you get a mix of conan the barbarian and event horizon as your fantasy creatures. Each set of books follows a crusade/jihad and is absolute kino in that respect. Really cool system of magic that, along with everything else, ties into the greater philosophical themes. I blasted through all of the books so quick and i've been horny for more like no other. I genuinely can't find a series like it that scratches the same itch. It has ended at a point where it if he didn't write anymore it is an actual proper finish, but he is writing more so theres that to look forward to.

I don't remember there being that much rape.

Maybe I should reread them.

the real story will never ever ever get put on screen I mean come the fuck on, all the rape the beautiful communist rape, and glorious statues, and evil chickens and i mean come the fuck on never ever going to happen

I enjoyed it :) Read it twice. Only book I've ever done that with but too each his own. Cheers! :3

Yea Forums is where i found bakker and apparently he's god damn retarded and is completely averse to marketing and just smokes fat blunts all day and writes about how the machine future will cause a semantic collapse resulting in the death of contextual information in between figuring out the physical logistics of the next rape scene he writes and how black and cold the semen of a skin spy actually is

but with him and other writers they've literally been around for decades and are just barely becoming popular as fantasy has slowly built up in the zeitgeist with LOTR and GOT. Your average showbabby has no fucking clue who fuckin robert jordan or any of these other dweebs are.

If you are bookfag though then info travels fast in the small circles. If you read books at all then you probably read a lot of books and if you are a genrefag then you are gonna know who most standouts are as you hunt your next fix

this basically, people have known about all these for years but tbph its the same fucking authors recycled over and over haven't seen anything new in years, just the next book of w/e author, and everyone has to have a fucking shared world now, EVERYONE, its all so tiresome, still at least their is literally more books to read then could ever be read in a life time, so their is that

based Ga'Hooligans

Kludd had a hard life

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is this any good? was thinking of picking up either this or the Malazan series

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I liked them when I read them and I was younger and much hornier and my palate was ok with the sugary sweet wish fulfillment. I still think his magic 'sympathetic alchemy' system is fucking excellent and simple and I love that merlin word magic shit too but the more I ruminate the more I dislike how childish quite a bit of the execution is and the series asks nothing of me and and his own prose and imagination is extremely tame so there's not even the high of day-dreaming about his world.

Unfortunately the author is too gay and simple for himself to not ooze into his books. Its like if GRRM only wrote about sam and sam was the star of the entire series and every book we get to hear about sams fat pink mast and how sensitive he is and some throwaway negative traits because these dweebs don't even have the fucking manners to be outwardly self-loathing except in some coyish plea to be liked or pretension at humility

go to bed joe

>There's no typical LOTR callouts

Prince of Nothing is literally a twisted grimdark inversion of LotR.

emwama - hobbits
nonmen - dwarves/elves
library of sauglish - iron mountain
kellhus - aragorn
sranc - orcs
bashrag - trolls

the next GOT in that it has the potential to take longer than asoif to finish perhaps

>tfw the jews chapter or the shore-leave terrorist guy's story

probably the only thing to touch on those feels was interstellar message scene. why is space so fucking sad bros

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These books are shockingly violent for kids' books. Like, owls literally rip each other's spines out with steel claws. It's metal as fuck, but the first few books are boring. Shit gets real once the actual plot begins.

Retard level novels

Not really,the first ones are okay but after Lord of Chaos it starts to become pretty shit,i would only say to read them if you are new to fantasy.

WoT is comfy fantasy with some great moments, sloggs 3/4 of the way through but ends strong. word count is stupidly high thou, larger than GoT and Malazan. Malazan is fantastic but it'll dump you in deep straight from the start

lies is excellent, the pirate one decent, the wizard one kinda sucked, but Lies really is very fucking good, and can stand alone

>Malazan
>Lord of Chaos
wat?

asking about WoT

honestly,
5: isn't great but has that jordan epic battle conclusion thing so its ok
7 n 8: same really
9: 9 is great but since you just slogged through 7 and 8 it seems like its more slogging, but really WH is good
10: the worst, its just fuck its the worst Rigney even apologized
KoD: maybe my favorite tied with 4 and 6
in short its only CoT that sucks

Conan the Barbarian or even from the same series, Glotka.

if there isn't rape in one scene its the implication or threat of rape in another. I would go as far to say that the book has an electric undercurrent of rape such that even in scenes that don't contain any mention or explicit reference of a rape, or activity which may lead to rape, the reader is forced to acknowledge that rape is always an option, a hairs breadth away at any singular moment within the series.

Any scene with kellhus? My god, man. Everything the man does is a rape. You just get forced to consent!
Akka climbing a mountain to be alone with his thoughts? All he needs do is doze off for the rapes to begin.
Esme or Serwe in any scene at any time? Never a more rapeable character has been written than these too morsels of rape bait.
The non-men rape to remember!
The inchoroi, the self-styled "race of lovers", rape to save their very souls!
Even all of their creations through the foul, blasted flesh arts of the tekhni are literal rape goblins and rape dragons and rape trolls
All the gods rape, all the demons rape, every word every page is suffused with it.

It is truly a masterpiece of literary fiction.

Wheel of time is very dumb, stay away if you can't stand corny shit and stupid women characters

ah see

I'm halfway through the first Wheel of Time book, Eye of the World.

This is my first venture into epic fantasy beyond Tolkien, so that probably affects my opinion, but I'm really enjoying it. It was very, very slow to start (took NINE chapters to leave the village), but once things get going, I was pretty engrossed by the lore and everything. My only major complaint is that the three protagonists are all boys, and at this point are entirely indistinguishable. Need more Egwene.

Also if you're wonder why I haven't read ASOIAF, it's because I have a policy against starting series that are unfinished. Believe me, I'll be glad to buy the whole set when (if) the story ends. Speaking of which, any recs for series that are totally finished? And I mean totally finished, no eternal prequel/sequel/spinoff bullshit. Preferably newer adult stuff, but I'm flexible.

I prefer my rape to be explicit, and tasteful.

Congrats on figuring out what marketing is

Lot of hate in this thread
The fact is, Rothfuss is a talented writer with a very simplistic, yet distinctive writing style that is very likeable
He created a neat world with its own rules for magic that frankly far more interesting than anything in the Harry Potter universe, which is straight flight of fancy anything goes bullshit
The books were accessible yet well done, they're good for what they are, pop fantasy deal with it
if not you're a pretentious faggot that needs to go back to Yea Forums and continue arguing about Joyce

Isn't the MC a ginger?

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A ginger and a cuck and proud of it.

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Yeah take that rotfuss haters he's just as good if not better than jk rolling at world building.

I don't get it.

If you like a book series, why would you want a TV adaption? They're always shitty. They'll never reach the bar the books set, and the 'showrunners' will make changes that ultimately detract from the story.

The last thing I would ever want is an adaption of any book I liked. They would ruin it.

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>Anonymous
Very low standards dude

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa, i forgot about this passage
it has so much cuckery and m'ladyness concentrated in it i'm surprised i didn't die of acute soi poisoning

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They are "confusing" in the sense that the author drops you in the middle of a world that has hundreds of thousands of years of history, multiple races/continents/etc and features hundreds of characters. And there's no old mentor guy explaining everything to the reader so you have to learn/guess what all the fantasy terms mean.

It's a difficult series to get started with but it is brilliant. Do note that they're military fantasy so whether you like reading about the stories of various armies (and soldiers within them) marching/fighting through continents may affec your enjoyment.

So they make a nice box set of the whole book series, duh.

>BoTNS

Absolutely based. Probably unfilmable, given how Severian lies, forgets things AND tells the same events from differing timelines

Severian is really the pinnacle for overpowered protagonist without being a Gary Stu
>edgelord executioner
>handsome ladies man without trying
>master swordsman
>war hero
And eventually
>augustus caesar meets God Emperor of Mankind
>space jesus

Yet at the same time, he's a lying moron who trips over his obvious attempts to seem like the good guy, and has such an alien sense of justice and even inscrutable motivations in any given scene that it's basically impossible to self-insert. He's basically if Hannibal Lecter fused with Anakin Skywalker who gained mastery over time and space but was a bumbling retard when he wasn't screwing his only friends over extremely trivial reasons and trying to convince you it didn't happen moments later. Think of the Chapelle's Show interviews with Rick James

>blocks your path

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>All the contrarians in this thread
I guess you didn't have the chance to be contrarian to Asoiaf before it became mainstream before GoT, so this is your chance to say that two very critically acclaimed books are shit before they are adapted. This place is more contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian than Yea Forums sometimes.

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Now this is a proper series.

>Sincerely hated Name of the Wind and Wheel of Time when I read them years ago
>Now everyone will say I'm just jumping on the bandwagon hate train because they get tv adaptations

Even in reddit threads about this series you'll see people bring up the very same criticisms brought up in here. Sorry not everyone's into your juvenile wish fulfilment fantasy book.

Gardens of the Moon is the first book published, but it already has like 5-7 books that tell stories before its events, and you don't get the full scope of story started in Gardens of the Moon until 4th book after Gardens of the Moon.

So, the first book is a literal casual filter, you'll be reading hundreds of pages that won't mean anything to you until they do.

I don't really get why people assume Malazan Empire is impossible, they'll just cut and streamline things here and there, maybe dislocate couple of events but if they'll treat it like Dabid and Daniel did first 3 seasons of GoT, it might work.

The CGI is getting cheaper and easier to make, the only problem is amount of characters.

>I heard these are confusing reads. preach me the truth brothers.
the cast is like 30+ people
I gave up when they kept adding more, and to piss off most have similar names and similar jobs or descriptions, at some point i didnt know who is who and i dropped it

Lmao, nobody took the bait.
Is this god fuck awful series even known by anybody anymore?

I was willing to let the gary Stueness aside until the point were he rticked a literal sex goddess/fae into releasing him the stupidest possible way, which jumps into how he is now a sex machine who pleasures all the women in a 20 mile radius.

inquisitor glokta is the superior character

>No.

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He's a ginger gypsy.

i dont get this meme. did you just read this about the book and regurgitate it? thats not what happens at all, he literally fell in love with the sex goddess and she wanted to know she was the best sex he ever had, and he honestly said she was his only one and couldnt compare her to a human, so she kicked him out and basically said 'have sex' since then, hes only fucked like 1 chick, and it was those ninja people, where does this sex machine meme come from?

When I read this passage, I really felt like I got to understand the author. It gave me the same dirty, disgusted feeling I got during that scene in It.

>So my self-inse- err, my main character is super charming, witty, bold and talented
>"So why is he always broke?"
>UHHH STUFF KEEPS HAPPENING
I hate a MC with underdog syndrome, feels like something written for self-deprecating cucks.

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One line in the novels sticks out to me. Hes talking about an accent and kvothe says it sweats sex. Just the dumbest shit I ever heard. I almost put the book down. Also i saw an infographic on /lit talking about the book calling it a harry potter clone. 'A precocious young man attends magic school'

Nope, he goes back to that tavern and the barmaid who previously teased him for being a virgin can now just tell that he's had sex, and so she immediately drags him away to fuck with barely a word spoken

Makes sense considering the author's bio of quickly getting bored with his hobbies and moving on to something else.
Writing was just another hobby for Pat.

This shit was the most smug, miserable slog I ever forced myself through. I don't even know how I got half way through the second book before I gave up. The only cool thing in the entire series is that creepy tree that manipulates everyone it speaks to via the butterfly effect. Faggot should have just written that as an SCP article and dropped the rest

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>DUDE, CHANDELIER LMAO!

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>don't touch Wolfe or Peake
How about I touch your head with my hatchet you tasteless faggot

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The only good thing about this series is the background stories Rothfuss gives. Like the same story told from a different point of view and you don't know which version is the right one because it's lost in legends now.

Other than that I found the book really fucking tedious. From the start we're told Kvothe is this legendary adventurer but by the end of the book, or even by around half of the second book, Kvothe is just an idiot getting into trouble at the University. And what the fuck is up with spending so many chapters in the university? And what the fuck with those dragon chapters?

so the king kvothe kills is that little shit kid from his school, thats distantly related to the king at that time? theres going to be a plague or something that kills 90% of the royalty, and that shit is left as next in line, then kvothe gets to murderlize him after he rapes denna as king?

The problem with Rothfuss work is the classic case of the artists paradox. First, he wrote the main story first and then wrapped the construction story as a framing device. The problem with that is that the framing story - in the inn - is thus both better written and more interesting.

The Hogwarts-esque bullshit just isn't as interesting as the village being attacked by spiders.

Secondly, and worse, is the obvious self insert. I honestly haven't read the second book - the famous beta orbiter paragraph just shut down all interest. Painful. Not to mention EVERY other female character thinks he's gorgeous but he ignores them. Just too cringe.

Third, and this annoyed me the most, is how small the main character is. His entire family - his whole life - was destroyed by these figures of myth that aren't supposed to exist, but the back third of the first book is taken up entirely with trying to bag some pussy. Who fucking cares man? Realise what's important.

This. Sand dan Glokta ftw. Youve gotta be realistic about things.
Anyone else really hate that Dogman cucked West?

>dragon chapters
granted, ive only read each book around the time when it was released, but i dont remember any dragon. are you talking about that lizard thing that ate trees because it liked the maple syrup in them?

Although I like the books, lol no. Unfinished million word prologue to what he actually wants to tell. Kvothe is such a fucking cuck though, holy shit.

Author is a prick, apparently.

west deserved better then getting magical cancer. i wonder if the new series that takes place 80 years or whatever later will have much of bayaz

But it will be shit. It's a guarantee. Why would you be happy with a box of shit?

Yes. It just kind of feels like it goes on and on and that particular story arc is basically unimportant.

>what the fuck is up with spending so many chapters in the university?
Rothfuss himself is a huge manchild who clung to attending university for a greatly lengthened period irl as a form of extended adolescence and so he naturally projects that onto the life of his self insert

Kvothe even admits to bast and chronicler at the end of the last book that he spent too much time on the university. Btw that whole shit with bast breaking into chroniclers room on the first night and threatening him is stupid. "Make him remember hes a badass". Makes no sense

Two books
Of a guy going to school
And moaning about his "OTP"
yeah nah prefer not to watch hours of bullshit again ay

>Second book was self insert as fuck (I fucked the sex goddess for months, then became a ninja....while also fucking all the hot ninjas).
this
felt like 12 year old fanfiction

both these series have shitty love interests that string along the protag while having no reason to be desired

> locke
> having no reason to desire sabetha

Dude he has a redhead fetish left over from his past lie.

EXTREMELY wholesome adolescent fantasy

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Patrick lost his virginity to an old hippy lady and pined after alt girls. They are all whores so no surprise there

Youre just envious you cant do 1000 hands.

oh shit I read those, Mormons wrote it. There are shit loads of mormon scifi and fantasy books. Makes sense considering their holy book is just christian fan fiction

the sparhawk books are the superior eddings books

based, I read these when I was 8. I remember liking the other series, spearhawk maybe?

strong family values, very wholesome series

>tips imaginary hat in your direction

Worst shit I've ever been memed into reading.

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you do know that hat tipping and imaginary hat tipping was actually a thing that happened quit a lot, right? surely you arent letting memes rot your brain are you?

>absolutely detest Kingkiller Chronicle
>can't stop reading it

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>you do know that
>right?

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Hats used to be very popular, especially for people who worked or spend a lot of time in sun, so recent memes should distort your view of reality.
Hat tipping or other elaborate gestures with your head cover or references to it were a norm.

>when the weaponized autism hits and you cant think about anything but memes
thats a yikes from me, dog

yup, it will be "diverse"

Kvothe will be black. Screencap this.

it already has gypsies, black people and slant eyes. how much more diverse can you get

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No love for Jack Vance’s fantasy novels? Lyonesse would make a fucking amazing TV maxi series.

for me it's Paksenarrion

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>where does this sex machine meme come from?
You know, that part when he's back to school and there's all sorts of rumours about him having sex with girls left and right? Denna confronts him about it too, so it's not only stated by narraiton but also by the characters themselves.

it's a prequel btw guys

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There's nothing worse than getting into a book store, seeing all the pretty covers and knowing that you
a) don't have to time to go trough all off them
b) know that 80% of them are pure shit and it's a tedious task finding out online

Also, why all my local bookstores don't hold not a single Evola book yet they hold the communist manifesto? Is this a trend in your bookstores?

entire casts of characters can go missing for multiple books and then come back out of nowhere. good luck casting that and having normies follow it