seething varys edition
/got/
Yup, into the trash it goes
The king is tired. Flood his chambers.
brienne is so hot irl. totally unexpected. and honestly who could blame varys he was the one that got fucked by shit writing the worst
>hehe, look at her go Ned. She's burning the women and children now. "uhhh Rubart we kant kill her. She jast a lil girl." Bet you feel pretty fucking dumb now eh? Ned, I tell you, if I could go back and do one thing I'd go back and give Stannis a speedboat so he could get to dragonstone in time to waste that genetic abomination. The way I see it Ned the screams of every one of those children is on your conscience. Now, LANCEL MORE WINE!
But Robert, she had no intentions of ever attacking us before your shitty assassination attempt.
To Highgarden
Based Varys.
Theres not more wine your grace. Its empty.
Nikolaj+Gwendoline Interviews>>>>>>>>>>Literally any other GoT Interview
Book Jon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Name one moment in the show with Jon that comes close to this
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Why were Ned and Robert fostered with Arryn?
here's your smirkfu bro
Southern ambitions nigga
Rickard Stark was a greedy bastard
YOU HONOURABLE FOOL, DID YOU THINK THAT SHE WOULDN'T COME TO THE SEVEN KINGDOMS WITH A DOTHRAKI HORDE AT HER BACK, NED?
ask the (((maesters)))
THEN GET MOOOOOOOORRRRE
What do you mean by why? It was a common practice in Westeros, and probably irl too is my guess.
Common to send away non-heirs. No idea why Bobby was there though.
POST THE PIC OF BOBBY B FIGHTING THE T*RGS YA SHITS
Why did illyrio give Daenerys three eggs, but not any to Aegon even though he loved him like a son? He really couldn’t give at least one of those eggs to him
would have been suspicious since yung griff spends all his time hanging out with smallfolk
On what authority or grounds did Jon foster the eldest Baratheon child and heir to Storm's End, regardless of any schemes, Steffon was still alive then. Stannis or Renly I'd understand.
Yeah, Ned I understand, fostering Robert confuses me.
Is Jon an Arsenal or Spurs guy?
The Virgin dejected Emilia vs. the Chad smug goblin
>So let me get this straight, all Dany sacrificed for this war was all for nothing? A goblin decided the outcome?
Well for one he had no idea the eggs would actually hatch dragons.
They didn't expect the eggs to hatch. They were just extremely valuable tokens. Enough for Dany to buy army and ships for Westeros. Aegon had already that.
is that from the Last Watch doumentary?
I'VE GOT SPURS
I would think Steffon wanted Jon Arryn to teach Bobby some humility and wisdom, he was going to be Lord of Storm's End and even as a boy all he wanted to do was crack skulls and fuck girls
GODS
Viserys
Kek look at maisie, why was everyone so chubby during filming, was it stress
Why did Theon feel alienated by his time in Winterfell when Ned should've been like a father to him, like Arryn was to Ned? Theon was a child when he got fostered, it's not like he'd understand he was essentially a hostage, nor would Ned allow for him to be treated like one.
Arya has her childhood stolen from her as she loses almost her entire family in rapid succession and her only coping skill is to fantasize about killing those who have wronged her. She becomes involved in a literal death cult and trains to be an assassin in an attempt to reclaim some method of control over her life, and almost loses her identity in the process. Eventually she returns to fight for what family of hers is left, and by killing the manifestation of Death itself she is eventually able to put her dark past behind her, and put aside her revenge quest eventually choosing to instead try to protect the living and seeking out new lands in the west
>B-B-B-BUT IT WAS FORETOLD BY THE PROPHECY I READ ABOUT ON THE WIKI THAT JON/DANY/MY ASS WAS *SUPPOSED* TO KILL THE NIGHT KING BAD WRITING BAD WRITING FUCK DEE AND DEE!
justice for olyvar frey
BobbyB's Parents Died when a storm hit their ship. he was too young to be ruler of storms end at the time so they sent him to jon arryn
Who's the jew sitting next to varys?
Gunner through and through
Theon wasn't fostered, he was basically an hostage
THE GREATEST THREAT THE WORLD HAS EVER FACED
KILLED BY ARYA FUCKING STARK?
does she have some condition or is it just a habit?
"Nah its Chill you humiliated Loras like the fag he was"
In the books, Theon's inner monologue says that Ned was not cruel but fairly distant and professional. Theon had no doubt that if Balon started stirring shit again that Ned would cut his head off without a second thought. Sansa didn't like him (though he did want to fuck her), Arya and Bran and Rickon were too young for him to have a real connection with and Jon was always off brooding in a corner somewhere.
Theon's only real friend in Winterfell was Robb.
Christ even compare that to S1-7 Jon
>sent to the wall at 17
>kills a wight to protect the lord commander
>goes from being a proud highborn bastard to humble member of the night's watch
>taught someone as whiny and useless as Samwell Tarly to find his courage
>given a rare Valyrian steel sword by the lord commander as a token of appreciation for killing a wight to protect him
>killed one of his own men in order to go covert among the wildlings
>went as far as breaking his vows, partly to remain covert, mostly because he fell in love
>earned the respect of Mance Rayder, the leader of the wildlings
>ultimately sacrificed his relationship to remain loyal to his cause
>held off the wildlings at the wall at the cost of the woman he loved
>kills Karl fookin legend Tanner, avenging his lord commander
>ventured alone beyond the wall to confront Mance Rayder face to face
>went against the orders of Stannis Baratheon and remained a member of the night's watch, as well as mercifully killing Rayder
>brokered peace with the wildlings to keep them safe from the threat in the far north
>killed a white walker and many wights in the process
>died and was brought back by the lord of light
>honorably executed those who betrayed him
>rallied the northmen and battled against the Boltons, winning in the end
>crowned king in the north
>was never a bastard but rightful heir to the throne, Aegon Targaryen VI
>allied with Daenerys Targaryen at the expense of his title to gain more soldiers and supplies for the incoming battle with the white walkers
>ventures beyond the wall again just to get a wight to the south to prove the threat is real (even if that is fucking retarded)
S8 Jon
>whipped to Dany and acts like a pussy throughout
>kills like a handful of wights at battle of winterfell and not even 1 white walker
>doesn't even touch the night king
>screams at a dragon
>does nothing
>bitchstabs Dany
>goes back north
Lena in the glasses, Gwen in the white shirt
The circumstances were quite different. Though Ned treated him well, he was still aware that he was basically a hostage.
Left or right?
Robert was fostered way before that and when Steffon died he was splitting his time between Storms End and the Eyrie
Does Daenerys ever ask about this in the show?
Pycelle wants this deleted
> trains to be an assassin
Her training consisted of telling believable lies and fighting with sticks, how did she learn how to wear a persons face? How did she get that black girls face she wore when she was at Frey's castle? Did she kill her? How did she impersonate Walder Frey's voice? How did she learn to fight with a sword when she was only had a few lessons of sword fighting in season 1 when she was a child
In the books, there is heavy implication that all the killings have had severe psychological impact on Arya, making her a bit distant from the world.
On the show, Arya's route of becoming assassin is nothing but wish fulfillment power fantasy. It doesn't cost Arya anything. She's just a super skilled anime character now. None of GRRM's multi-layered approach of the cost of power. This is why Arya killing Night Goblin is anti-climax. She's sacrificed nothing to deserve it. She's a wish fulfillment character.
Dead show, dead general. Let it go.
Source?
>On the show, Arya's route of becoming assassin is nothing but wish fulfillment power fantasy. It doesn't cost Arya anything.
This is what bothers me about her on the show the most, she doesn't suffer any consequences whatsoever.
Please stop defending bad writing. And have sex
>even as a boy all he wanted to do was crack skulls and fuck girls
based
>Why didn't the fellowship fly the Eagles to Mordor?
fuck off with your MauLer-tier non-criticism.
Eh, you're not wrong, a lot of Arya's quest does feel like wish fulfillment at times, and of course a TV show is never going to be as detailed as GRRM's point of view narration, but I feel like Arya was one of the characters who got the best treatment in s8. She gets a lot of moments that re-humanize her after seasons of nothing but GURLLL POWAR and her final scene with the Hound where she's confronted with what mindless revenge quests get you I think they were able to stick the landing with her arc.
>those twig arm and huge torso
terrible "art"
Arryn was without heir so he had enough love and care to impart on Ned and Bobby, in contrast Ned had tons of fishspawn with Cat and he probably got tired of taking care of his own children AND his sister's child AND the hostage ward.
>non-criticism
How is her having abilities she never learnt in the series a 'non-criticism', seems like Faceless Men aren't hard to become when all you have to do is cut off someone's face and you magically can have their voice and mannerisms, where did Arya even get the poison? She spent all her money to board the ship, did she steal it? Did she make it? Does she even know how to make poison?
And how did they turn so different from each in their attitudes and values other despite being fostered by the same man?
The seed is strong
>What was Aragorn's tax policy?
>How were the Hobbits able to fight well enough to survive catastrophic world ending battles when the extent of their training was a few impromptu sparring sessions with Strider and Boromir?
Personalities are genetic, twin studies show this, any parent or sibling knows this
what do you need to faceless man? it seems every idiot can wear a mask and learn every fighting technique with just a stick training montage. where is the magic? why Arya? why literally anyone else? Arya wasn't a master swordman in season 4. She just knew how to plunge it. Nothing else, nothing more. Reminder ahe got dissarmed instantly in season 3 by Thoros. So her training must have been in season 5 and 6, yet we see nothing and no insication of progress. How can she throw knives perfectly, how can she appear out of nowhere in the back of the NK. How did she rule the twins in season 6? She knows jack shit about it.
>and almost loses her identity in the process
get the fuck outta here. this never happened. she tried to say that she was no one and she was told that she was lying. and finally when she manages to be no one (somehow) she says she is actually Arya Stark. Anyone who defends this shit must be mentally ill.
The Night King had a hard life
book jon is amazing
>When I was 16, all I wanted to do was crack skulls and fuck girls - but the old man taught me what was what...it's not his fault that I didn't listen.
>How were the Hobbits able to fight well enough to survive catastrophic world ending battles
They were shit fighters, they were saved numerous times during fights throughout LotR
Yup that's what I would do
Cutest psycho!
Is there a more tragic character than Theon?
>bullied and made fun by his older brothers as a child
>familt gets killed in a rebellion his retard father started
>basically held hostage in unfamiliar land by the people who defeated his father
>finally return to the iron islands, his father hates him for reasons completely outside his control
>makes a series of bad decisions in an attempt to gain his father's favor and respect again, turns against his only real family, deeply regrets it
>gets captured and tortured for years because of it
>father still doesn't care
>about to be executed by his crimes
He deserved to be happy.
they were shit fighters. retard.
>She gets a lot of moments that re-humanize her after seasons of nothing but GURLLL POWAR and her final scene with the Hound where she's confronted with what mindless revenge quests get you
Mind you that comes way after she's already killed off every potential person on her hit list, including the very manifestation of evil and darkness. It has very convenient timing because again it doesn't cost Arya anything to back away now. Only Cersei remains on her list and by now everyone knows she's as good as dead already anyways. So Arya can have all her cool moments, killing Littlefinger (that one could be criticized in the form of a book) and the Night King and still in the end retain her humanity and walk away from the whole thing without a scratch.
Does that sound like a GRRM thing? There is this kid who has killed a fuck ton of people and taken part in a weird ass sect and by the end of it all, she's just normal adventerous Arya? This is the lowest form of fanfic. The one that exists only to fellate the characters. D&D are so massive Arya fanboys they completely missed the nuances that makes her character arc so intriguing and disturbing to read.
JUST
lool
what a chad
Can someone pls post the hound image full of green text about syrio forel
whats the current /ecg/ bros?
Aragorn's tax policy has zero importance to the story and the hobbits didn't "fight well", they were being protected by more competent fighters and even got captured by the enemy.
You just KNOW they banged
fuck that goblin for murdering this innocent man
You know I agree with most of what you say but I can't bring myself to get so fucking mad about it. Sorry.
At least you're criticizing thematic coherency of her arc (real criticism) and not like that other dipshit who thinks she didn't grind enough experience points (fanboy autism that would get you laughed out of the room in any serious discussion of narrative art)
imagine being born in the british isles, knowing the fate your genes will give you.
If everyone is ugly, then nobody is ugly.
>MauLer tier
get fucked
Yet the best you can do to show why it's a bad criticism to show why not having character development in the form of acquiring skills that define your character later on, you incorrectly refer to the Hobbits being depicted as good at fighting in lotR
Imagine if they filmed the series with foresight of what was to come and filmed all the child actors scenes at the beginning so they don't outgrow their roles like they did in the show. Imagine 10 year old Maisie killing the NK.
>He unironically likes Mauler
Yikes.
>four beverages
>chad chugging
MauLer lifts a fuck ton of completely legit criticism against the series.
Based Vlad was the best thing about the documentary
>attempts to discredit a well versed critic with non criticism
gonna be a yikes from me
agreed
>LOOK AT THEM, NED
>I'VE STILL GOT A SON, AND YOU'RE DAUGHTER'S ALIVE
>OUR HOUSES FINALLY JOINED, NED
>no wait why's she leaving, ned??
>ned????
Fuck that goblin
Mauler is a pedantic autist plothole surfer and his entire arguments read like a freshman student trying to artificially inflate his word count so the professor doesn't realize he's not actually saying anything at all.
> You're mine. Mine, as I'm yours. And if we die, we die. All men must die, Jon Snow. But first we'll live.[6] —Ygritte to Jon Snow
are spaniards really this brown?
>Theon's only real friend in Winterfell was Robb.
And he got Robb murdered.
Enjoying the show, fans? Would be a shame if someone...
>Subverted
>Your
>Expectations
I miss her
>we missed out on this kino speech
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Seriously fuck D&D for shitting on Ned's legacy with the whole "hurr ned was stupid for being honourable" when in reality almost every single northen house remembers their loyalty to the starks which was forged and refined by Ned.
>mauler uses big words I don't understand so the impression I get is his criticisms lack substance
Shouldn't you be on /pol/ saying the same thing about sargon?
no he didn't
He absolutely dissected Episode 3 from every angle. He nitpicks at time but he usually stays on criticizing the broader strokes and how wrong D&D are adapting the characters.
Why does Tywin talk about creating an 1000 year legacy? Cersei’s children are Baratheon’s not Lannisters, the family dynasty they’re continuing is the Baratheon one
>boohoo I suffer being hung and having been raised by a much better family than those ironiggers
He was a mong.
Loras! Highgarden!
>see one brown girl
>"are all spanish girls this brown?!?"
>completely ignores the other girls
>What was Aragorn's tax policy?
Umm stupid moron showfag, LITERALLY the entire basis for this whole setting is nitpicking details like this.
I thought this was all pretty readily apparent and I think that was enough motivation for the evil ice zombie lich king. He's the remnant of a blood feud from tens of thousands of years ago fulfilling the programming he was given
Did people who think the Night King wasn't "explained" enough want a scene where he sits down with Bran and discusses his motivations for wanting to take over the world?
Won't it have been great if we got some great feels moments from Dany and Jon like this:
>Ygritte: D'you remember that cave? We should have stayed in that cave. I told you so.
>Jon: We'll go back to the cave. You're not going to die, Ygritte. You're not.
>Ygritte: Oh. You know nothing, Jon Snow.[13] —Ygritte and Jon Snow
D&D fundamentally misunderstood ASOIAF in thinking it was just edgy nihilist fantasy. It's dark and demoralizing but in the end it's obvious that GRRM is an idealist.
That's why he wants Jaime stop fucking around and prepare to become the lord of Casterly Rock.
>UHHHH MUH MILITARY TACTICS BAD WRITING BAD WRITING
>WHY DIDN'T THEY HIRE 10,000 MORE EXTRAS FOR THE FUNERAL SCENE IN EPISODE 4 BAD WRITING!!!!
Please justify the Episode 3 military tactics.
Theon sacking Winterfell is why Robb needed to re-cross the Twins.
Here's why people think the Night King wasn't "explained" enough:
>the 3 Eyed Raven was in bumfuck nowhere North of the Wall for hundreds of years and the world got along fine not knowing he existed
>the Night King and the White Walkers only recently became active again after thousands of years for unexplained reasons
>the NK's plan is explicitly to kill the 3ER because he is the guardian of human knowledge or something
>the WW and NK fuck around for some time beyond the Wall seemingly amassing the army of the dead
>the 3ER is safe in his tree cave because of the magical ward around it plus the NK doesn't even know where he is
>the 3ER calls Bran to his cave after Bran becomes a cripple for some reason
>the NK doesn't even attempt anything before Bran bumps into him in a vision and gets marked
>the NK kills the existing 3ER but Bran is the new 3ER and escapes south of the Wall
>the NK knows where Bran is but still doesn't attempt anything before having a dragon delivered to him
>the NK possibly couldn't have even crossed south at all without the dragon
>the NK is so focused on killing Bran that he ignores major threats around him
>the NK genuinely dies from being stabbed with Valyrian steel once and nothing more
>the Valyrian steel kills him even though dragonfire didn't
>the fact that Bran is now the 3ER means absolutely nothing and he uses the newfound knowledge only once
>the fact that Bran is now king means absolutely nothing
Why did the 3ER call Bran? Can the NK predict the future? Why does the world need a 3ER at all let alone as a king? What would have the WW done if Bran wasn't marked and if the dragon wasn't delivered to them? Why didn't the CotF or Meera just snipe the NK with a dragonglass spear at the cave? What were the WW waiting for all this time? What was their goal after killing Bran? What was the old 3ERs' plan for Bran if he had never been marked? Why anything?
gods maise williams was a cutie back then, i want to suck on 14 year old maise's feet while i pound her asshole.
Fuck off Dabid, trying to force unnecessary drama by getting everyone killed through stupidity is not good writing. It's just making everyone look dumb. It doesn't make your villains look competent.
Now we know why Season 8 sucked balls.
>fighting outside of a wall
>Star Wars
Oh boy
Some of it was justified by the real world constraints of where they were filming - they wanted catapults, but there was no way they could have fit them near the walls of Winterfell without fucking with every single shot that would take place there, and the set of Winterfell they've been using since s1 is not large enough to fit them. Mauler is the type of person who absolutely would not understand this because he's someone who can't engage with stories besides trying to rationalize the real world "logic" of a fictional world and story.
Some of it was goofy like the Dothraki charging to meet the Army of the Dead, though I guess if they had a throwaway line that the dothraki were supposed to just charge and retreat, leading them into Unsullied spears that would trap them to get burned by dragonfire, it could have worked. Ultimately, though, I don't get upset over it, because I am not a fat cheeto dust nerd on the internet with a lazy eye who thinks Game of Thrones is a lecture on proper military tactics.
>>WHY DIDN'T THEY HIRE 10,000 MORE EXTRAS FOR THE FUNERAL SCENE IN EPISODE 4 BAD WRITING!!!!
The fuck? he never says this
Speaking honestly, would Robb have been a good king?
I can't remember in the show, but the books its cause Moat Caillin is taken by the Ironborn and they can't get through it. Also Ramsey is in charge of retaking winterfell from the Ironborn. Robb just needs to honour the alliance with the Freys after diahonoring them. Nothing more.
it always pisses me off when people claim that asoiaf has no moral center compared to stuff like lotr. it’s a story about suffering and sacrifice but always with the theme that survival isn’t always worth it and you should strive to be as good as you can
and Ned commiting "treason" is why Robb went to war, but I'm sure Ned didn't get Robb killed
At least Theon became a good man
tfw no wildlingfu
>The north remembers, Lord Davos. The north remembers, and the mummer's farce is almost done. My son is home
Still get chills desu
meanwhile in the show all the lords conveniently forgot except for the epic bear loli
kys you nonce
He literally whines about who got the invitation to be present at the funeral because he thought there weren't enough individuals present
if you tried to explain that the scene doesn't need thousands upon thousands of CGI extras clogging up the frame he'd just sperg out and start rambling about logic for the next 20 hours
yes, if he managed to survive for long enough
Robb and Balon bend the knee to Stannis. What happens next?
No. They just give you that impression because the good guys are always portrayed like angels. Robb and Ned are so whitewashed and both needed more gray.
>Mauler is the type of person who absolutely would not understand this because he's someone who can't engage with stories besides trying to rationalize the real world "logic" of a fictional world and story.
being this retarded
Why does it seem like the Starks are nicer to Theon than Jon
user keep watching. That guy is literally the guy in charge of snow and sow effects. He kept shit talking the production. You know that council scene to decide who the new king would be? They shipped him down to Spain, on location, just to sprinkle some fake snow onto some corners that you don't even see in the episode anyway. He literally was telling the camera he had no clue why he was down there.
what they did to the north in the show is an abomination
>pshh, themes are for eight grade book reports, kiddo
>we're expecting a siege so we're going to put our entire army outside the walls of the castle that's being besieged
The entire basis for why the characters are in danger is stupid.
"Foes and false scripts are all around me, Lord user. They infest the media like roaches, and at night I feel them crawling over my story." The fat man's fingers coiled into a fist, and all his chins trembled. "My story came to David and Dan as a guest. He was to be treated as he deserved, with moderate budgets, quality dialogue and few battles. And they murdered him. Murdered, I say, and may David and Dan choke upon their fables. I drink with David, jape with Dan, promise Cogman the script of my prequel... but never think I have forgotten. The book readers remember, Lord user. The book readers remember, and the mummer's farce is almost done."
Cute
Jon was an edgy autist
Jon tarnishes their father's reputation
>Robb is whitewashed when he butchers his own allies and betrays all of his alliances, which gets him killed
dumb showfag
Theon is trueborn and a son of a powerful house, they have to be slightly nice to him. Jon is a bastard so by all the social norms of Westeros they can treat him like shit
Why did Tormund kill the lord of bones?
fuck that britbong meme is fucking real
looks like a 50 year old fat mexican woman wtf
Then you have tens of thousands of soldiers cramped together ultimately accomplishing nothing while the undead swarm the walls.
The idea that the first thing you should do when fighting to defend a castle is to hoard up inside and do nothing isn't valid, anyway. Having a wall of spearman to lock the enemy down while archers rain death on them from the walls (like the Golden Company planned to do before they got fucked by the dragon) is a pretty good idea.
Does anyone have a source of Emila running around Bobbyposting at her castmates, calling their names stupid and screaming for more wine?
Night's watch in the books should annexed and turned into a military district.
Because the wildlings respect strength and the Lord o Bones was never going to break bread with a crow. He was going to fuck with their attempts to make peace
She cute
I imagine standard medieval policy
its part of the muscles in her face are paralyzed
Hopefully, the prequels will shed some light on it all.
Emilia did nothing for me in early seasons but around s6 where she got thicc and her wardrobe got darker and more regal she started doing crazy things to my dick
Mad Queen dany is so fucking hot and I unironically masturbated to her facial expressions when hearing the bells
>deploy a phalanx that's going to get immediately overwhelmed because they're outnumbered 100:1 and flanked because the enemy is coming in from all sides, without erecting ANY kind of barricade in front of them to slow the enemy advance and bottleneck them to a form where your troops can slaughter them, is a good strategy
"No!"
You just fed your phalanx to the Night King for free, who is going to rez them and use them against you
Dumbass
>Then you have tens of thousands of soldiers cramped together ultimately accomplishing nothing while the undead swarm the walls.
You literally just have them man the walls while you build a large fire lit trench and have dragons reign fire, the placing of the artillery wasn't bad other than the soldiers being behind it, they could have easily placed the Unsullied and Northmen further in front if having the catapults so close was an issue, or not have any catapults seeing as they only used them twice then stopped
Emilia was always cute
Dany started getting interesting around season 7
desu the snow guy was pretty based
>without erecting any kind of barricade in front of them
well, again, I think this is where we're getting into the actual real-world constraints of the production.
That dude was based. Every other word out of his mouth was "fuck."
Mine was some Targaryen boy at the Battle of the Trident. My horse took an arrow so I was on foot, slogging through the mud. He came running at me, this dumb inbred lad, thinking he could end the rebellion with the single swing of his sword. I knocked him down with the hammer - Gods, I was strong then. Caved in his breastplate. Probably shattered every rib he had. Stood over him, hammer in the air. Right before I brought it down he shouted, "Wait! Wait!" They never tell you how they all shit themselves. They don't put that part in the songs. Stupid boy. Now the Targaryens hide across the sea like everyone else. He could have lingered on the edge of the battle with the smart boys, and today his wife would be making him miserable, his sons would be inbreds, and he'd be wanking three times in the night to piss into a bowl. Wine!
It's been more than a week and I'm still not over Jaime Lannister's butchery by D&D
Varys was alwys the wise one, he was right about the script for last episode being shit and not worth the 8 years build up - The D&D called him a traitor killed him off because he spoke out
lol some powerful lore
are you kidding? In every scene Robb is seen in a good light. the same happened with Dany. And yes I was talking about the show because I want it to bemore like in the books. go check if you have autism.
>steps on caltrops
>shatters into a million pieces
Well, again, HBO offered Dabid a blank check and 10 episodes to film season 8, plus they had a whole extra year to get it done, but Dabid took advantage of none of those things because they wanted to shit it out as fast as possible to make Disneybux, so basically fuck production constraints, they were just lazy cunts and it shows.
>I think this is where we're getting into the actual real-world constraints of the production.
They delayed the show for a year just to film, they had an extremely high budget, HBO actually wanted 10 episodes for S8, Dabid just wanted it over so they can fuck off to Star Wars
>BENIOFF: HBO would have been happy for the show to keep going, to have more episodes in the final season. We always believed it was about 73 hours, and it will be roughly that. As much as they wanted more, they understood that this is where the story ends.
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Me too user
think you've got enough hydration going there, mr. lannister
>He knew that Kit would be a manlet even then
yeah a bunch of pointy wooden sticks in the ground is really expensive...
YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL
funny that pic related was the moment it went to shit for Jamie, making him kill his cousin in that retarded scene made no sense
The only one not happy about Goblina killing the Night King is fuking Varys.
>based
>a bloo bloo Jaime's arc MUST be a straightforward redemption arc and anything more complex is BAD WRITING
Probably still bummed about his fate
>We always believed it was about 73 hours
How can they always believe this when they don't even know the story? Who thinks like this?
>Thank god I only have to wear this wig one more time
>Thank god I only have to act with Kit one more time.
It's less a question of money and it's just about the necessity of building miles of trenches and shit clogging up the frame just to make armchair tacticians happy
I could get past the kinslaying if they’d kept him moving forward and not just tied him to Cersei bc she didn’t have any other screen partners
It's before that
Any man who shed a single fucking tear to this soap opera shit should off himself
kek, why didn't Jon and Dany strap huge bags of dragonglass caltrops to the dragons and then spread them all over the undead?
>Books: castration and other forms of emasculation cannot prevent men from finding strength and power in their own ways. Despite having their genitals removed, both Varys and Theon have deep wells of inner strength they draw on to take charge of their own lives.
>Show: NO BENIS!!1!1!!!!!1!!!!!!! xD
not what I said
got any more furdik screenies?
Tyrion makes a couple of no cock jokes because he's a bit of an asshole but do you *really* think the show is arguing that Theon and Varys are lesser men?
They both went out like champs
Ppl weren’t happy abt that decision, they were just cheering for their pal Maisie getting a big moment.
Hey bro, Theon got kicked in the crotch and didn't react, remember? That's REAL strength.
the woman in the doc who kept swearing was annoying desu
I mean, what's so objectionable about him killing some random Lannister he doesn't give a shit about?
Dabid get off Yea Forums and go apologize to the fans.
itt: a bunch of virgins who haven't even been in a street fight without crying afterwards discuss high level medieval battle tactics
top kek
yeah she was the location manager I think? either way really annoying
>- The D&D called him a traitor killed him off because he spoke out
Yes D&D kill off actors for favoritism. This is why any person who dies in the show shouldn't be considered dead in the books or vic versa
no she isn't, better than on the show, but hot a is a bit far.
REMINDER
she's too emotive like women in general who know they're on camera
never forget
>”Theon, his face a bloody mess, rises to his feet a third time.
Harrag takes a deep breath. He charges at Theon, throwing everything he’s got left at his adversary.
Clutching Theon’s face in his big, dirty hands, Harrag slams his knee into Theon’s groin.
But Theon has no balls.
Just the slightest possible smile from Theon, as he receives his first ever benefit from castration.
He slams his forehead into Harrag’s nose, the single greatest headbutt in the history of filmed headbutts.”
Loli Maisie was a qt
keep fight the good fight, Dragon.
t. street thug who puts trebuchets in front of armies
Where's this from?
idk she’s pretty in a aristocratic way
His shitty accent tho...
I didn't make sense in the scene and Jaime is an honorabu faggot who keeps getting in situation where he has to be dishonorable and that situation wasn't one of those
What was the point of this coflict
Could this situation have been avoided?
kek
I kinda like that about her. She's constantly making faces and cracking just because he herself thinks it's funny, regardless if she has an audience. It might be partly due to any brain damage she sustained during her surgeries, but she seems not to have a filter and will just show whatever emotion she's currently feeling.
I worked with a guy that acted just like her. He would do all this crazy shit even when no one was looking because he was entertaining himself. I think Emilia is the same way.
Remember that "conflict" in S7 where Arya and Sansa are plotting against each other?
I was at the edge of my seat the whole time!
>Where's this from?
It's from one of the dragon demands videos.
Jon wasn't sent to the wall, he volunteered
Yeah, if Dany wasn't a carbon copy of her daddy.
Sansa pretty much drove her mad to gain power in the North.
He would have been so-so. Being thrust into a war for independence in your first day of leadership is a pretty unenviable position so it's no surprise he fucked up there. He valued justice and honor over stability, thinking he was emulating is father, when we know Ned had sacrificed his honor every day for 17 years.
>What was the point of this coflict
Making conflict for the sake of conflict. It's so fucking stupid.
Reminder that Andy McClay and Vladimir Furdik are /ourguys/
yes, imprison them. Also what's the point of asking them to bend the knee if it means breaking their allegiance to Cersei? What's the point of having turncoats bend the knee?
StREeT FiGhTS WiThOuT CrYiNG
being this fucking retarded.
So it's just whishful speculation on his part
dany sucks. slagsa knows this and hatches an elaborate keikaku to kill her using her catspaw jon
I mean sure it's okay in small quantities but she just seems too over the top about it. Maybe she does it subconsciously because that's her or her aneurysms caused it.
Dickon was really handsome. Maybe not a turbo chad but he's really attractive.
He doesn't especially book theon
>StREeT FiGhTS WiThOuT CrYiNG
why do soiboys write like this?
>Also what's the point of asking them to bend the knee if it means breaking their allegiance to Cersei? What's the point of having turncoats bend the knee?
I would declare I'm the new king and grant them all amnesty like Lincoln, that way I can't be accused of being a tyrant
imagine being such a cuck that you follow the bitch who killed your best friends father and brother
yeah she did
>Dany gives them multiple outs with bending the knee and taking the black
>They keep telling her to fuck off
>Tyrion is upset she executed them
Everyone who gave her council was retarded, but he was especially stupid
go fuck yourself, book theon is one of if not the best character in the whole books
>Dickon was really handsome. Maybe not a turbo chad but he's really attractive.
If only he had bent the knee
If Robb knew about Jon's parentage, he would've probably been less inclined to marry Jeyne. After all, he feared raising another Snow.
Dragon Deludes pls, the book and the show will have the same ending, face it
just put them in jail you idiotic dragon whore
>killing a family line that could easily cause an uprising later on in the area they are from
Sansa just became ideologically invested in Northern separatism. It's retarded that she still wants to secede after Bran takes the throne though.
>the book and the show will have the same ending, face it
There is no night king in the books and king's landing happens before the long night in the books.
>who killed your best friends father and brother
but Sam hated both of them
You really think Cersei is facing death by brick user?
>Arya has her childhood stolen from her as she loses almost her entire family in rapid succession and her only coping skill is to fantasize about killing those who have wronged her.
describes viserys and daenerys
>king's landing happens before the long night in the books.
Source?
unsurprising. every time sansa’s been beholden to a higher authority it’s led to sexual assault - it makes sense that she would want to be queen in order to protect herself from further harm
>Source?
Basic logic of what the final end game is.
You put on weight during winter idiot
Battle of winterfell isn't in the books yet so what do you mean about allegiance swaps?
is that why she started falling for Theon because he had no cock?
*COUGH*
THIS SCRIPT
*VOMITS*
A Dream of Spring implies Spring is distant.
best one
>can make cgi armies and castles
>cant make cgi trench with sticks in it
you're right why bother making something feel authentic, fucking neckbeards btfo.
>entire arc is about reuniting with family and leaving revenge behind, "lone wolf dies" etc etc
>but revenge has zero negative consequences and works out great
>and she decides to fuck off on a boat far away from all her remaining family because of a retarded throw-away line 3 seasons ago
whoah bravo dabid
More importantly he's already a famous dynasty, he's not a cadet branch so why does it matter
What is the purpose of castrating Theon in the show when he isn't in the books?
The books heavily imply the northern lords having no intentions of following Bolton. They're simply biding their time to strike. On the show, they're all backstabbing bitches with no backbones.
Things are drastically different in the book to the show I don't see how things can be done to make the book ending the same as the show other than Dany dying
>He deserved to be happy.
But his character type, he never would be happy. The kind of man he was molded into, something would always hang over him.
I have no idea where this notion of aneurysms causing Emilia's behavior came from but it's the most retarded thing I've heard in my life. If they affected her behavior in any way, it would be in changing her disposition towards life to be more relaxed and not take things seriously since she was so close to death, or she's on anxiolytics 24/7 and they act like happy pills. Aneurysms themselves have never caused anything similar to what several anons seem to imply.
So Yara could become YASS QUEEN
so the Night King causes the fucking winters? that's retarded
freys were plotting betrayal well before the fall of winterfell
women love when men get their balls cut off
I swear in the books Jon rides back to find Ghost, so they just have Theon be a dick for no reason
>On the show, they're all backstabbing bitches with no backbones.
It's really fucking tragic what they did to the north. In the show, they have zero loyalty to the starks. In the shows, pretty much all of them want the boltons and freys dead. The ones who are "loyal" are only doing it though pure fucking fear of Roose. This is why I fucking hated the cutting of the plot with Stannis and the northern clans and Deepwood Mottee
At the end of the last book, Cersei's rule over the seven kingdoms is on the verge of collapse. She's completely retarded and and the hold outs to her rule, Greyjoys, Stannis, Starks, etc. and now Aegon are pushing them back on all fronts. They can't beat the resistance.
>Jaime’s death
>Cersei not being dead by the end of Winds by the valonqar, whoever that might be
>nothing happens to Euron’s magic shit and he dies on a beach
>stupid fucking Cleganebowl
>Arya runs into King’s Landing only to run right back out again
>the entire Reach is suddenly devoid of people
>Bronn as Master of Coin instead of being dead
>Sam as Grand Maester despite not being a fucking maester
>Brienne breaking her vows to be a Kingsguard to Bran, not a Queensguard to Sansa, despite being the most vow-heavy retard to ever live
>Gendry, a no-name smith from nowhere, ends up as Lord of the Stormlands instead of Edric Storm, an older, better raised royal bastard who is well-trained for the position and was a main driver of the Baratheon plot in Clash
>Quaithe never mattered, what the fuck is Asshai
>Thenew ascends as Prince of Dorne over all other claimants
Oh for sure it will be the same
>Robb just needs to honour the alliance with the Freys after diahonoring them. Nothing more.
In the books the Freys were outright plotting against him before news of the Westerling marriage even reached them. Check out Arya's chapter with Roose Bolton.
I mean Theon already wanted to kill them all
She wrote herself, she couldn't remember the script.
>So Yara could become YASS QUEEN
Why the fuck was there TWO scenes with Yara making out with women in front of theon, including one with Ellaria wanting a threesome with him?
>Maybe not a turbo chad
nigga
he was 6'6, muscled like a maiden's dream and is really handsome
he's a giga chad
His job was to be the black guy.
Why does no one ever actually know what a war hammer looks like and makes them some giant fucking World of Warcraft looking weapons instead?
He's still salty about his dad being a cuck
Yes. He had the support of his bannermen, a legend built up around him in his youth, and he demonstrated in Bran VI (AGOT) and Catelyn VIII (AGOT) that he knows how to navigate the personality-rooted political system of the North.
Honest he's been butchered since season 5
Desu why didn't Robb just declare himself King of the Andals and First Men?
>It's been more than a week and I'm still not over Jaime Lannister's butchery by D&D
Same
new:
She doesn't give her the option of taking the black. Tyrion suggests it, he says she has no authority to order that before she said anything, but there's no indication she would accept that at all.
ASOIAF as a whole seems to have over the top WoW-y aesthetics from the descriptions.
That's the elegance of the books. Cause and effect. It's not just LOL HONOR GETS YOU KILLED. That shit also has its positives which GRRM is happy to share with us.
>This is why I fucking hated the cutting of the plot with Stannis and the northern clans and Deepwood Mottee
Whoa there user we can't have Stannis look TOO good, what if the audience gets confused as whether or not he's a bad guy? That's why we had ominous music play when he saved everyone at the wall.
Bookfags seem to think they know better than GRRM, strange....
who is the kawaii little girl with green hair?
not in the show
Why the fuck would it they were fucking traitors and enemy combatants. They just slaughtered people in highgarden turning on their lord it just happened offscreen
Manderly's grand daughter Wylla or something.
God I want bran to fuck me, wish I could have a threesome with him and tommen
>dumb showfag
Show Robb is a huge jerk compared to book Robb, m8
They never explain why he suddenly is attacking now after all these years.
Your ass
Tyrion suggests they go to the wall, but Dany says then others will do that rather than bend the knee
Retard.
He is castrated in the books. It's just heavily implied rather than outright stated.
Proofs?
God Catelyn looks so hot there.
I just want to eat her snatch under the table so bad.
Because then he might need to conquer the Tullys, rather than keep them as allies
I'm not talking her behavior but her emotiveness you dumb cunt
bueno
Damn, now I want this ending.