>Oscar-nominated actress Emily Watson plays nuclear physicist, Ulana Khomyuk in Chernobyl.
>Ulana Khomyuk is a fictional character, based on a collection of real scientists who helped with the Chernobyl investigation.
imagine having to create a whole character from scratch simply because a show cannot be greenlit without filling the minimum quota for stronk, independent, STEM-top of the class wymin
Imagine caring about it
>And we’ve kind of got to tell a lie: but we’ll go back into the history and there will be people where, historically, there wouldn’t have been, and we won’t do well on that. We’ll say, ‘To the hell with it, this is the imaginary, better version of the world. By believing in it, we’ll summon it forth.’
The series is lierally all strong men. Who gives a shit about one strong woman? Even the "weak" nuclear scientist in charge of clean up bosses his superior around.
women are retarded
>Who gives a shit about a show falsifying history to satisfy people who are not interested in the show to begin with and won’t anyways.
Visionary progressivism is more important than cuck shit like "historical accuracy"
They're trying to keep the story succinct. One made up scientist meant to represent a collection of scientist isn't a big deal.
Chernobyl is an all ages all genders show. Perfect to watch with the family after sunday dinner.
youd just swallow anything the jews fed you, wouldnt you
The show has lots of fake characters
This guy who goes on a 1984-style rant about controlling the masses was fake too and just meant to be symbolic of the Stalinist-era mindset of the Old Guard that still held sway in the party in the 1980s
Thank god so far they haven't shoehorned any "diversity" yet.
Hm where have I seen that actor before?
>falsifying history
Literally a docu-drama
This dude's speech was probably the worst scene in the show because it was so on-the-nose
lol why the fuck is the hat of that lad on the back so goddamn big? It's 2 inches away from being a full blown sombrero lol
If I want realism I will read a book user. Moving pictures are for entertainment.
There was an actual woman victim of Chernobyl. She was a plant security Guard who stayed at her post all night as others fled and abandoned their duties and shortly after she died of radiation exposure.
No pictures of her have survived and she had virtually no family
Fugg
Soviets liked big hats
Though as a Soviet history nerd, this is probably an inaccuracy. The soldier wearing the red stripes of the Army when Party officials/sites were guarded by the KGB (as were nuclear plants)
Have sex
WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST MAKE HER A CHARACTER
What is a composite character, Alex?
>bit part about the metaphorical older soviets who lived and died for the party
vs
>One single female scientist who finds out about Chernobyl on her own, goes to the local party head and insults the male politician then gives the poor female secretary medicine then goes back to her office to get the Chernobyl blueprints she has for some reason and then figures out about the sand and boron via secret message with another female then somehow puts together what is exactly wrong without ever seeing the plant, talking to people who were there. Then drieves six hours straight to Chernobyl and with no credentials walks right up to the head scientist and tells him why hes wrong and is at a meeting with the leader of the Soviet union in the next scene. This goes well an beyond a simple composite character. She single-handedly solves a problem without ever being involved or invested in the event with no explanation.
Because security guards aren’t independant sten Womyn you fucking bigot.
t.incel
Have sex
Stop replying to this bait copypasta thread. This is either an incel trying to get replies or the tripfag hinself.
And she still takes that first smear from her window without gloves on.
>One single female scientist who finds out about Chernobyl on her own
There is a male scientist with her also running through the closest power plants to call
>Then drieves six hours straight to Chernobyl and with no credentials walks right up to the head scientist
She begs the officer at the checkpoint to let her in and tells him of her credentials and the danger and the officer reluctantly "arrests" her in order to bring her over there
I don't recall any of the other scenes as I'm rewatching it but if it's anything like the pure reduction of the two scenes I did remember, I think you are delusional and should go to the infirmary.
I know this is a bait thread, but how did she know the blonde gf was pregnant? Had they ever met in a previous scene?
>being called incel by an incel.
yikes
Part of her character, being hundreds of scientists, was one who was that girls obstetrician.
the writer's credits. why are you still watching television it's almost 2020
maester luwin
>There is a male scientist with her also running through the closest power plants to call
is not like making a call is something hard to do
>She begs the officer at the checkpoint to let her in and tells him of her credentials and the danger and the officer reluctantly "arrests" her in order to bring her over there
yet she walks right up to the head scientist
The wife was holding her husbands hand up to her stomach and cradling the bottom of her stomach with her other hand when Ulana walked in
OHONONOHONONOONONONONOONO
You've been around feedwater too long
Was honestly shocked at how many people thought this was real
>an another "there is a female in my teeeveee reee" thread
Imagine being thisbpathetic. Just kys.
i would have assumed it was a weird sex thing
Fuck off, reddit spacing phoneposter
>historical revisionism for the sake of feminism
It will never be accepted by anybody with a brain.
nigga tf you do all day? read lmao
Did a jew say that?
Not an argument
In my head canon, the woman you're talking about is this unfortunate female looking guard in episode 1
They mention her outright as a friend of one of the characters you dumbasses
Perhaps people should have cared more in general, maybe that general apathy is why everyone is so miserable in the West.
>which you probably thought was smart
Lmfao
That would be cool if that is so.
Though if it isn't and they were asked about it they would probably just lie and say ya thats supposed to be her
Why are amerisharts SEETHING that women in the rest of the world arent useless subhuman thots and can actually achieve big thinks...?
>docu-drama wants to be dramatic
Damn
I don't care they condensed the scientists into one character as much as the Soviets would entrust the operation to only two experts. Really wish there were a dozen extras milling around the site in lab coats, occasionally handing Legasovic a bit of paper or something just to make it feel like the disaster was being taken seriously. There are loads of extras doing every other type of job, why would more scientists be confusing?
I kind of understand the necessity of condensing a full collective of scientist that helped Legasov into a singular character.
Also she was c u t e in Equilibrium
Are you autistic? Seriously though, you might be.
You forgot his most important credit.
He told D&D that their Game of Thrones pilot was shit.
Truly based.
>watch tv or film
>expect not to be Jewed
>begs
I don't mind her but you know that wasn't how it went.
isnt it cultural appropriation that americans/brits put together a story that is very well russian?
Well the main problem with that is she was a plant guard stationed directly across Reactor 4 (the one that blew) and that was the local Party HQ
obsessed incel
That's your fucking defense of this? "Imagine caring about it" ??
>mrw Sherbina and Legasov become friends
Shes not as bad as some people make her out to be. They took liberties with the story but its fine since the character isnt in your face about current year political shit. The only thing that really bothered me was how confrontational she was with the party official, I dont think that would fly in reality but in the next episode she actually gets KGB'ed for something similar so whatever.
Party officials were a bit more chill post-stalin.
The KGB was always the KGB though, so yeah I agree that her getting KGB'ed in the next episode was realistic
Honestly? I thought she would intrude in the show but she fits. Watson is an excellent actress to boot.
It was shit according to everyone, the actors and D&D. It got picked up because 1 person high up in HBO had a hard on for period dramas.
>Honestly? I thought she would intrude in the show but she fits.
my dick fits in your moms pussy you faggot. kill yourself
I'm getting blasted by a ISIS bride about this
>incel misses the point of a tweet, news at 11.
can't watch her, her eyes disturb me
To be fair she did say relatable not realist so that answer is out of whack.
Criiiiiiinge.
1. If she's based on real people they didn't create her from scratch. Open a dictionary.
2. Having all those people as unique characters would make the plot too long and confusing.
Fuck u wytekniyts
>Equilibrium
Jesus Christ the plebbery.
Ulana is a good feminist character because her existence does not detract from the importance of other characters. She works with Legasov and Boris as an equal, rather than as rivals. There is no, "Ha, gotcha!" Moment where Legasov is made to look like a fool by the wise woman, nor is there any scenes where Ulana gets "put in her place" by Legasov. They compliment each other.
And if you watched Episode 3, you will see her role has become that of Investigator; she's determining *what caused* the Chernobyl meltdown, rather than *how to fix it.* She's not stepping on the toes of any other characters, and neither are they with her.
women are the primary victims in industrial accidents, war, etc
>I dont think that would fly in reality
It wouldn't. And neither would the coal miner / minister shit.
>She works with Legasov and Boris as an equal, rather than as rivals. There is no, "Ha, gotcha!" Moment where Legasov is made to look like a fool by the wise woman, nor is there any scenes where Ulana gets "put in her place" by Legasov. They compliment each other.
That's because those events happened, just not with a single character, but with a group of scientists and engineers that knew how the reactors worked and advised Legasov in the stuff he didn't knew.
Also, a lot of those scientists investigating the events that lead to the reactor exploded got arrested too.
based
>There is a male scientist with her also running through the closest power plants to call
That guy who basically existed to be talked down to and show us how intelligent she was? It was a bit blunt, let's be honest.
I listened to the podcast and they chose a female to show the egalitarian views of the soviets in regards to things like science and medicine. Personally I think they went a bit overboard.
Depiction of the events should be as accurate as possible, so this character should not be there. But they already fucked it up in certain areas like the radiation burns (they shouldn't show up immediately as red on contact, it should take days)
>imagine caring about history
>imagine caring about all media being subject to diversity quotas
Yeah bro, fucking imagine.
Show me the HBO documentation that says this character was created to fill a quota.
fucking redpilled post user. had no idea
>Depiction of the events should be as accurate as possible, so this character should not be there.
Yeah man they'll just hire dozens of nameless people in labcoats who call Legasov in 30 minute scenes where they describe what's going on. Except some of those labcoat wearing dorks might be women which still might get people wailing in anguish that women were portrayed competently.
Or maybe they'll condense all of those minor side-characters into a composite character who never once flaunts her femininity (a hallmark of "bad" female characters) and explores an important aspect of the Chernobyl disaster (what caused it) while the established Strong Men go back to fixing the issue.
If this show suffered from diversity quotas than we would've seen more blacks and women. None of that happened here.
Because it's a contrivance and not historically accurate
Thankfully I'm not watching this boring shit
No, but you t_degenerate corporate cocksuckers have been doing that for few years now.
wew, shes the typical angry roastie who calls anyone who disagrees with her an incel
literally Yea Forums in twitter format
So progressive!
Imagine giving a shit about that when the show is one of the best tv shows ever made, you should have had sex when we told you
it's not a fucking documentary retard. Drama shows will ALWAYS take liberties in something.
It's funny you say that, because there probably IS internal documentation stating roughly that.
This is sophistry, though. What he calls "quota", some might call "virtue signalling" or just "progressive ideology". People feel compelled to say and do things out of peer-pressure, ideology and sometimes even a deep-seated subconscious desire not to appear racist, sexist, misogynist, etc. (like when all the White guys are excessively congratulatory to the successful Negro actor or businessman because they actually know his kind is inferior.
"Quota" implies the internal bureaucracy of HBO explicitly demands it; this isn't necessarily the case, in the same way that movie studios don't explicitly say: "we want a hot woman for the role", nevertheless they would still only pick an 8/10 or higher.
In this case, they have created a Mary Sue and it undermines the artistic integrity of the show (which has clearly taken pains to otherwise be extremely accurate and historically realistic).
It is clear to me that external considerations were responsible for writing this character into the show. At the very least, you should abhor this decision as an affront to any normal person's aesthetic sensibilities, whether you agree with the underlying politics or not.
How is she a Mary Sue lol
They do this all the time, remember the 3 non existant sheboons that where the masters minds behind nasa?
>Actually defending a made up character whose sole purpose is to push a feminist bullshit agenda in show thats supposed to be historical accurate
Fuck you, faggots
This. So many fucking insecure, Moaning "men" on Yea Forums
Women are subhumans! We can't let them run amok like this
In the beginning of episode 2, she miraculously deduces in a split second that a nuclear incident has occurred.
She preposterously insinuates herself into high level meetings with the Central Committee. She always has the right answers. The show goes out of its way to portray her as the genius while Legasov is a bumbling buffoon who doesn't think of all the eventualities quickly enough.
She also takes the initiative to interview the victims and surreptitiously infiltrates the Moscow hospital to do just that.
We're getting close to the definition of a Mary Sue; then consider this character is a figment of the writer's imagination.
all women are whores simple as
Well that's fucked. And here I thought Chernobyl could be a based show. Glad I skipped it. I thought she was just a background character.
It is this weird sex thing where, after enough time, a small human pops out of her.
This is like women who think rockets and bullets are shaped the way they are cause they look like dicks
At this point why don't even they make her stop the reactor before it exploded if we're looking for a better version of the world?
>They're trying to keep the story succinct. One made up scientist meant to represent a collection of scientist isn't a big deal.
And all these scientists were men but for some reason the sum of all of them is a woman!
You know why they're doing this, women are so shallow they can't get into a show where they don't see someone that looks like them in a position of power or heroic
This isnt a court of law retard. Open your eyes.
No mate a liberty is when they need to condense events and maybe have a certaiun character say simeting that another character saud for the sake of the getting the plot rolling as happened in the opening scenes of ep 1 OR making the smoke plue big an black as opposed to reality where it was merely an almost invisible steam cloud that barely rose 100ft. Injecting a non existent character into an historical drama to appease feminists is not the same thing.
Go back to **ddit
Yeah mate, might aswell re make Band of Brothers but with all females and niggers? I mean its not a big deal right? Not something people should bother with amirite, Kike.
She's not that bad. It's probably just convenient from a story telling perspective because there'd be dozens of more characters involved otherwise.
>dozens of more characters involved otherwise.
which, by pure coincidence would be males, rather than 1 single woman
>condense events and maybe have a certaiun character say simeting that another character saud for the sake of the getting the plot rolling
so basically this character?
Looks like my mom.
No. Fuck off. Cunt wit SJW.
40% of STEM jobs in Soviet Union were filled by women you stupid incel
they inserted a female character in the form of the nurse that Doc Roe bonds with. There's not historical proof of such a thing happening. It's literally the same thing.
Prove it cunt. Give birth.
She was a cutie love interest and she was white. Not some mary sue standing up to the man. Next.
Well maybe she should've left then. Was there a legit reason why she stayed at her post or was she just retarded?
This is why i only read books now, not sure why i still come here when i haven't seen a movie or tv show in 2 years.
Movies and tv only exist for subversion and pushing an agenda now, it hasn't been art for arts sake for a long time.
ah ok
what does it matter what role the woman plays if it's completely ahistorical anyway? (Which the Chernobyl woman isn't, she's just a composite character. As the other guy said, "According to Smithsonian, 40% of chemistry PhDs awarded in Soviet Russia between 1962 and 1964 went to women." You can read about that in a quick Google search about that character.)
Most people hate when dumb love stories are inserted in the middle of a war movie, especially if it didn't even happen in reality.
No body wants stronk womyn in movies. We dont want them anywhere. Deal with it. Men died putting out the fires, cleaning up the site and building the sarcophagus. Not women. Fuck off with your 'women were equal in the USSR' bullshit you communist. Go collect your welfare.
Pathetic.
damn you're intense about this character. No-one's saying they were equal, but there were highly educated women.
Sure, that's why the showrunners had to invent this female character despite having 40% of real women at hand
>chemistry
>nuclear science
yeah same thing faggot
yea it would be great watching hundreds of scientists (60-40 male to female ratio) work realistically for hours and hours.
>It's funny you say that, but there isn't.
lol
what's wrong with caring about it?
Showrunner literally said the people she was derived from included women.
did you watch the show at all, or is this going to be one of those talking to a brick wall situations?
The character would exist if they weren't created to fill a quota.
You don't get funding for shows anymore unless they have a strong female. Of course they had to create one so they could even make the show.
Blessed post
Is she one of hundred scientists or the important one? I don't watch this show
How would you have done it then? Have random cuts of 100 different characters solving small parts of a big problem?
She is the 100 scientists combined who together solved most problems.
she's just a representation of many, many scientists. It's a dramatization and they obviously didn't want to have a hundred or more characters in that role.
He would have done it exactly the same way the show did it, except the character would be male.
And she happens to be female because 40% of chemistry scientists were female in the soviet union? What kind of logic is that?
women's intuition
Raise a child.
>Soviet women completely emancipated by the Revolution
>snipe thousands of Nazi scum in WWII
>kill Nazis from planes too
>women well-represented in the Soviet sciences decades before they were in the West
>Yea Forums incels complain about a single composite character
stay mad, faggots
Thats not real user. Women have no intuition, they dont have common sense.
I wouldnt mind her but shes meant to represent hundreds of scientists and yet the show makes no attempt to communicate that whatsoever. Instead she does pretty much everything herself she says anfd scoffs at the contributions by everyone else. The show had the oppurtunity to show other scientists at her office but instead they had them not show up to work. I dont get why they didnt just include that whole group, possibly add in other labs they communicate with in bit parts and keep emily watson doing all the things she does as the leader/mouthpiece for the group. They could have actually cast more women as scientists in those roles for that too, especially especially if they wanted portray the number of women apparently working in STEM fields in the soviet union at the time.
The problem with her character has nothing to with her being a woman, the problem is that everything ulana does singlehandedly makes her come across like some flawless superbeing which just feels out of place when the rest of show is about ordinary people from all walks of life coming together in huge numbers to try and take on this huge monster of a problem
Create 3-4 characters, but you need competent writers for that.
This has is one of the most desperate attempts to sound not like a misogynist I've ever seen on this board.
>be so btfo you resort to using women and children to fight your wars for you
>we are super cool guys, we swear
Russians are truly disgusting, not as bad as the Chinese but close.
I think turning 100 characters into one is fucking lame. Why do you need that one hero who saves the day when it was a collaborative work? Of course it's a woman because men ebin, wemen gud
>lose a world war to a bunch of holes
pathetic
>that one hero who saves the day
She's not even close to the only hero in the story.
Because that's how Hollywood works.
Imagine being a zog cog.
>>Soviet women completely emancipated by the Revolution
Turning women into killers is emancipation? The soviet union proved to be a catastrophic system that turned people into soulles machines. No wonder feminists think this is the way to go
Honestly i don't think it's such a problem. The show focuses on bringing a national (globally even) problem on the screen in a very intimate setting and it works by focusing on the characters. You honestly think the main character solves all the problems single handily with one bureaucrat backing him? Of course not, in real life these two guys were doing constant meetings, creating new groups to tackle problems and it prolly was pretty boring. But they showed most of the facts happening in a setting that makes the show very atmospheric and dreadful. Reality is kinda boring guys, hence why we obsess over tv shows so much.
It was probably written by a genetic woman, Now go dilate
Sucks that the scientists who actually did the work don't get acknowledged in the show cause of this.
Well if you look at history, Germany was always outmanned, outgunned and the fact they came so far is super impressive. Throwing millions of soldiers to the battlefield is not impressive at all. Especially with the backing of US industries who just kept producing weapons when other countries were busy fighting a war. I mean, the french army had as many soldiers as Germany, and they BTFO them in a matter of weeks.
Yeah having to represent something as being a group effort is just too hard to show on film. Saving private ryan should just had tom hanks show up on d day on his own, on a single boat, capturing the beach and taking on every single german soldier singlehandedly.
The guarding of atomic energy stations was conducted by the internal forces of MVD, not KGB.
Chernobyl was guarded by 1й cпeцкoмeндaтypoй вoйcкoвoй чacти 3561 (oтд. бaтaльoн)
>Of course it's a woman because men ebin, wemen gud
I don't think you know what ebin means. Please brush up on your Finnish memes.
Nah it was probably a typo
you sound scared, user
Why didn't James Cameron's Titanic name every single crewmember?
>ill just just call them a misogynist i don't need an actual counter argument to actual criticism
Fuck off back to twitter
yea like who? Which ones of the hundreds specifically should've been mentioned?
The whole movie is unrealistic as fuck, so yeah, that's exactly what Saving Private Ryan did. Bypassing historical accuracy to make a good movie. Good job BTFO-ing yourself fucking mong.
I think the proper way is how they handle the Godzilla in that Hideaki user movie, the only problem is that it was boring as hell and the acting was horrific
>burgers unironically believe Saving Private Ryan is a historical documentary
Based noncarer buttblasting all the carebears ITT
Yeah, turning the entire crew into one mick was a bridge too far in my opinion.
Convenience no doubt, obviously it would be unfeasible to name drop 100 characters within the narrative.
Doesn't stop it sucking that they don't get credit for the work they did.
Better that atleast some would get mentioned than none in my eyes.
>beating rubbish Poles & Frogs when you had the benefit of surprise then freezing to death in Russia after getting encircled, and losing the war after having the benefit of surprise is super impressive.
>emily watson is fine but the could have cast other female scientists
REEEEEEEEE MISOGINY
>imagine being a zog cog
>taking on the world as one small nation isn't impressive at all
Fuck off Ivan, go let women and children fight the wars for you and then get drunk and beat them every night.
>I don't like this character in a show
>TAKE THAT JUDAISM
t. zog cog
>chernobyl os a 1:1 telling of real life events
>Throwing millions of soldiers to the battlefield is not impressive at all
but that's what Germany did. Even in Stalingrad they had the numerical superiority until the Soviet counterattack which tilted the scales. In any case during that battle the numbers were similar all the time.
Not to mention that they instigated the war. If the fault of their stupidity if they're getting outmanned and outgunned as a result.
>nazis bad, amercia gud
here's your WWII movie, goyim!
imagine being one of the scientists that she replaced
you're eager to see how accurate they portray you but you find out that, you and all the other scientists were replaced with one woman
Yes schlomo, we get it. Hitler was cartoonishly evil and the germans were all retards that weren’t all that impressive and spend resources to systematically kill 6 million chosen ones while fighting a war on two fronts.
Oh wow this doesn't sound at all like hollow praise, i mean they talked about "brilliant victories". Surely there is no intention about it, and lying about numbers to make the russians look good.
Then you remember you died of cancer 20 years ago
Name 10 scientists you so eagerly want to be portrayed.
if the composite character was male, you wouldn't even notice anything being wrong. You wouldn't think "wait, where is everyone else?". In the back of you mind you would accept that every dramatization of a historical event does stuff like this every time, because it's necessary for dramatic purposes.
The soviet got twice more military casualties than Germany. The nazis were battling on multiple fronts and the russians only had to push in one fucking direction
If it was accurate in all its details, it wouldn't be a very compelling series. All stories take artistic liberty.
The helicopter didn't crash in the immediate aftermath of the event, that was weeks later during the liquidation effort but it serves to show the stakes at play in the immediate aftermath and the ethical strains versus necessity that Scherbina and Legasov were put under.
Literally the only reason bitter fags in this thread are bitching about this character is not because she's a composite character of all the scientists who worked on chernobyl but because she's a woman (which in the realm of the soviet period, was more common than in the west). Unironically have sex ffs
>ywn clean up a nuclear disaster with your career party man bro
>ywn have five years to live due to radiation exposure
>ywn knowingly send men to their deaths
We'd know if they actually made the effort to portray them, now wouldn't we.
Fucking Moffat
are you illiterate?
>>ywn knowingly send men to their deaths
Damn, that actually stings.
Do you seriously give a single fuck about any of the scientists that contributed to the effort?
If the only time you heard about Chernobyl is this show then you're a fucking retard anyway so opinion discarded.
t. anti socialist liberal
These are just facts. I wasn't making any value judgement about either party here, just saying that the Germans had millions of men thrown into the fight as well. Soviets were fucking scum too. I'm Finnish.
These are just facts. Are you saying the numbers are false? That was just a random article from wherever, but it's true that the Germans had the numerical superiority in the beginning.
so? That's not what I was talking about. And again, they started the fight so if they get outmanned and have to fight on two fronts, it's really their own fault.
Truth be told I only learned there was a group of scientists after watching it.
So while watching the only issues I had with her was with her seemingly limitless capability, that I'll admit felt a tad off, maybe because of the reason you're getting at.
now is not exactly the time to resort to desperate ad hominems to save face, dude
>watching HBO for history
Theres plenty of documentaries about the Chernobyl incident.
Just like theres plenty of fictionalized movies & shows about historical events. One will trigger you. The other will inform you. Choose wisely.
this guy again. fuck off to /his/ if you wanna get backed the fuck out, oh wait, you already got banned. Guess the only place is /pol/ then
Whose fault was it that they pushed their lines and fronts too far? Military high command always thought Hitler was a retard and the strategy was wrong, and they were right
t. ALL IN ALL IM JUST A NOTHER COG FOR THE ZOG
The saddest part of it is that liberals will use this show to establish her as a real historical character since liberals literally get their entire view of the world from television shows, movies and standup comedy routines.
She is now a real person, and questioning that will get you prison time in Europe and fired from your job in America.
>save face
You're truly a special kind of retard huh. Lots of things aren't accurate in this show, lots of dramatizations, but you're too stupid to imagine how it would go in real life so what's the point of arguing.
it's careception, if you didn't care you would never have posted in this thread.
Actually this. Who gives a fuck.
easy on the drugs, mate.
Documentaries are all made by historical revisionist liberals too. So there's really no difference. Documentarians also ham-handedly shove their political agenda into their films.
>they started the fight so if they get outmanned and have to fight on two fronts, it's really their own fault.
It's not black and white, the germans were forced into war by the WWI sanctions and the threat of a bolshevik revolution just like what happened in Russia. They didn't wake up and decide to go for a war on multiple fronts because it's fun.
>t. terrified of the jew
Hide under your covers! theyl get you with their pointy noses and their yamakas!
>*uses a dave chapelle sketch to argue for abortion*
They thought he was a retard when he wanted to invade Poland and France
You just now Google will be making doodles about her soon enough.
Have sneed
Imagine actually believing this. Imagine actually typing it out to convince others that it's true.
the soviet union collapsed because it was shit.
one of the reasons it was shit was because it embraced the jewish "equality" concern troll.
I'm not one the going on ever new tangents with every post to try and defend my retarded contrarianism.
>name 10 scientists you actually want portrayed
>hurr, you are a brainlet if you don't know about Chernobyl (??)
>hurr, it's just a dramatization
Talk about pathetic, eh
Sounds like you want a reason to complain no matter what.
You chose wisely.
Yea, your side doesn't pretend that Hedy Lamarr invented all 20th century technology, rather than just being a note taker for her husband.
>She is now a real person, and questioning that will get you prison time in Europe and fired from your job in America.
Then why did the producers admit she wasn't real?
>INTERNET HISTORIANS
>RISE UP
Yea man, I'll check out Michael Moore's award winning documentaries to get my facts. I bet Trump really is Hitler and Bush was bff's with bin Laden. Thank you, o wise liberals, for being on the right side of history.
it turned out to be a great idea!
t. zog cog
Do what you like man. Its your choice.
Better question. Why does the showrunner release a podcast every week in which he point out the falsehoods in the drama?
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If you unironically use terms like “zog” or “zog cog” there is a 100% chance of virginity.
Imagine being such a pathetic child that you need to see people who look like you in shows and movies to keep your self-esteem from imploding. How are we going to handle WWIII with this level of pussification?
Jesus christ how delusional and wrong can one anonymous internet poster be?
Yeah niggers and women are pretty pathetic aren’t they?
The Meme War is WWIII. All the infantilized /r/t_d brats you see are casualties.
that's deep
You answered your own question about the fronts, yes Hitler was a retard. Even his most loyal follower Hess was conflicted to the point of flying to england to try and fix his bad decision making
You answered your own question
>Why does the showrunner release a podcast every week in which he point out the falsehoods in the factual documentary?
This makes sense as a question, what you said doesn't. I's a drama, it's meant for entertainment, not education, so you take it with a fuck off huge pinch of salt if you aren't retarded
Do your own research if you want absolutely factual accounts, this show isn't and never was and never proclaimed to be that
so much this
#oscarssowhite
>backed the fuck out
This, no one should talk about anything, Yea Forums should just be deleted. Who cares about movies and tv-shows anyway lol
You're sure showing your lack of caring by posting about it
my concern is that they didn't portray Albert Einstein, the inventor of the atom. Now people will not know how the atom came to be, they will probably think it was done by a woman scientist. They really should've shown those random ass noble scientists and not condense them into one character. Now the world will never know Pyotr Vlodanovich or Sergei Gregaroilivich.
would’ve been a perfect miniseries if it weren’t for this character. she destroys any immersion i develop through the course of the episode whenever she shows up
Imagine caring enough to make a post about how you don’t care despite you obviously caring enough to make a post trying to mock people discussing something they are about. Retarded golem
Guaranteed non of the people complaining have even seen the show
There legitimately probably was in internal memo at HBO recommending adding women to the show. Or one of the execs told the showrunners they would need to add a woman. The point is that it's not always cut and dry. HBO won't write up a corporate constitution saying "we must have a female lead in every new project" but in effect that is basically what happens these days, and on some level of the internal bureaucracy you can be confident there is talk about it.
Prove him wrong. They put ideology above reality, until they came face to face with it
She literally ruins the show
So you think the people at HBO talk about stuff they are gonna put in their shows? And when casting characters they might talk about stuff like age and sex? Could you imagine if all of Hollywood did this?
It's a mini series, they had to minimize the number of the cast. And it's a fucking series, yeah a lot of things are always put over reality.
There's also female producerrs who always have to be militant about feminism. That female producer on James Bond hired a fucking sex coach! They did 24 Bond movies without!
I guarantee that you're a faggot
>I's a propaganda
Fixed that for you
i liked the part where they had the KGB arrest literally every scientist in the world as represented by strong female.
yea cool reply buddy, what are you 17?
not all but most yes
FPBP
Fuck identity politics obsessed Zoomers
lol, I got that reference
you literally can't refute what he said, though.
Do you have a single source to back that up
He literally can't refute that he's underage either.
do i need to? what if i am a fag? wanna come suck my cock? i can shove it real hard up your tight little boi pussy.
wear womens clothing if that makes you feel any more comfortable I dont care
Based as fuck
It's refreshing to hear then be honest for once.
Based
>She single-handedly solves a problem without ever being involved or invested in the event with no explanation.
You're distorting the truth. She's clearly shown to be cooperating with Legolas. She's depicted as competent and dedicated to her work. Holy fuck dude, she's shown to be sleeping in the office, how does that not tell you THIS IS NOT AN ORDINARY THOT?
You wouldn't make a problem about half of your post if it was a male character. You people are worse than tumblr SJWs, you are just trying to find reasons to be triggered. Nothing about that character is unbelievable or ridiculous.
Imagine if you made this much of a fuss over the fact that the firefighter commander drives to measure the radiation on his own.
>AAAAH AN OLD BOOMER WOULD NEVER DO SOMETHING SELFLESS LIKE THAT, HISTORICAL INACCURACY
why are fags so vulgar?
Pretty sure you missed the point of her tweets, retard. Literally have sex.
She was pointing out and redpilling people about college, how a degree is worthless and you should skip college.
Connections > a degree
>we've had a lot of fun on the set. It's always great to work with an actress of Emily Watson's character. She really adds depth to this character. And just in general everyone's having fun. And it is a fun story to tell, because it is the story of how a good reactor turns bad.
Because dutifully staying at your post to get irradiated to death is masculine self-sacrifice. it's noble and tragic (and true), but it's not all that empowering and doesn't fit the narrative of women outdoing men in STEM. Better to make snappy, clever, Yas-Kween, scientist who proves that women can do scientist.
even the quiet girl in the back of the class?
The funniest part is, there were many women amongst the Chernobyl liquidators. Nurses, doctors, personnel of the cruise ships where the workers lived, cooks, dosimetrists - they worked hard. Pripyat's chief architect was a woman, and she overlooked the evacuation. They didn't even need to make things up, but they did, because they just can't not to.
>not "have sex"
unbased
Imagine never had sex.
poor man's prime kerry condon
You forgot we're told she works too hard. That's the first thing we hear about her in her very first scene.
honestly, that was the best way to do it
I mean you understand they can't put a show without such character, so her in this place was like minimal possible impact
we didn't get like female firefighters or polibureau members or actual station personnel
and female scientist in one of many research institutes of soviet republics is acceptable
But the Game of Thrones pilot is literally the only good episode
>They didn't even need to make things up, but they did, because they just can't not to.
They don't care about reality, they like to thnik they can bend it into any shape. We live in a permanent state of propaganda, even harmless cartoons are injected with subversive themes
Especially her
maybe the most based post on this board atm
kerry is criminally underrated
>Make composite character to represent all the various actions the many scientist in the CCCP and their debates and investigations, in order to streamline the narrative and have it gel with the much faster pace the show is taking in showing the relevant events
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>Make the character a woman
>REEEEEEEEE
Octavia was better. When she had to submit to Pompey... and when she seduced her little brother... 10/10
It really was bad tho. So bad they redid it
You haven't seen the actual pilot. They reshot almost everything for the real release.
based
Look at all the seething replies
great concentration of autists in this website
Imagine replying this
have sex
shut the fuck up liberal
I didn't know you browsed Yea Forums Mr. Shapiro!
>Imagine caring about black representation in media, female representation, etc.
you guys are such massive hypocrites, it's crazy.
Becuase she is irrelevant and fake. She should be represented by a team of white dudes that chastise everyone around them. Instead we get fat motherly cunt who gets to shit on the "man's world" we live in. fuck off whore.
Have sex
>Oscar-nominated actress Emily Watson
Emma Watson looks really different these days
Holy fuck /pol/ is fucking pathetic. Literally tumblr of the other side
Fpbp
>I DON'T CARE ABOUT IT CUZ IF I DID SOME user WOULD CALL ME INCEL REEEEEEEEEEEE
fucking hilarious
lmfao
this
Where's the mega link for the episode?