John Wick Thread?

1 was the most personal and sympathetic as well. Seeing the final gift from his dead wife killed by some punk who got his panties in a twist over John telling him that his car wasn't for sale gave us, the audience, subconscious permission to excuse everything John did to achieve the goal of killing the little stain. Everything he does is justified because Iosef started it all by poking the bogeyman in the eye.

FUCK OFF TO FUCKING REDDIT YOU USELESS FUCKING PLEBS

IMAGINE ENJOYING THIS HORSE SHIT

Feel free to explain your reasoning.

feel free to kill yourself

2 built on the world from 1 in a great way, plus the choreography and action was better. I find it slightly better than 1.
3 was a mess. Amazing first 30 minutes, than a completely pointless 20 minutes wasted in the middle east with halle berry. It honestly felt like that whole sequence was thrown in after the movie was done and they ran into her and asked her to be in it so they threw together something real quick. It kills the movie. Everything else is pretty great tho.

No, fuck off. It's a FUN movie you dickhead

just finished rewatching 1 with my bros a few minutes ago, holy fuck it was good. After so many cancerous shaky cam action flicks it's amazing to have clean, well-choreographed fight scenes with brutal yet beautiful action that's easy to follow and enjoy. It manages the campy setting with just the right amount of gravitas, and the development of Iosef and Viggo drives the plot so naturally it feels like watching a modern day fairy tale. We hate Viggo without feeling that the filmmakers are obnoxiously rubbing our faces in how much of a douche he is, and Viggo is a somewhat sympathetic but ultimately cruel old man who makes a nice counterpoint to John's perseverance. The only real flaw of 1 is that John's character arc doesn't resolve - it projects forward into the other movies. But that's not such a terrible thing, since it's still rewarding to watch his growth in the later films.
An action movie with nuanced characters, an engrossing setting and snappy fight scenes will always be worth a watch in my book. I hope this series wraps up appropriately, and that some hollywood producers take a clue from it and give us some more cqc kino.

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only one of those posts was mine fuckwit. it should have just been one movie.

I enjoyed the attack dogs.

wick has more trouble with brain dead russian goons in 1 than expert ninjas in 3.
and the only good shootout is the club scene. everything else is good on first viewing when the sequels didn't exist, but it pales in comparison to anything later. the shootouts in 2 are much better and there are more of them and the fight choreography in 3 is much better than 1 or 2.

the correct order is 3>2>1

If you like the movie then just pretend the others don't exist. Is it so hard to like something just because there are other stories to go with it that you don't like?

>wick has more trouble with brain dead russian goons in 1 than expert ninjas in 3.
exactly, 1 > 3

Buml

I love the movie!! the third is the best, no discussion

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I do love the first and will continue to shit on the others every time you zoomer faggots make these threads

Good user, I'm glad you like the first at least. We all do.

>Matrix
You know, I just realized that Fishburne and Reaves are back together again.

>We
go back faggot

>no lego gun
>no toenail
>no belt
Cmon son

What are your favorite fight scenes/shootouts in the series. The shootout with those armored bodyguards in 3 might be my favourite action scene in the whole series.

kill yourself zoomer poof

>Winston betraying John after declaring war on the High Table
He didn't really betray him, you see him purposefully hit his suit and force him over to the ledge with awnings to fall on, plus he probably told Morpheus to have one of his guys pick up Wick in the alley

who gives a fuck, go back.

>with my bros
stopped reading right there, desu. kino is to be observed solo voce.

fuck off gay cunt

I'm 25, cunt

Is this Yea Forums?

If that's the case, could he have not given Wick a heads up on the radio before the parley? It's not like Wick's psychic and knew Winston's intentions.

1's nightclub
2's street/staircase fight
3's antique shop

again, kill yourself zoomer poof

One standout is the shotgun sequence in 2. Watching the film actually keep track of how many shells he has and mixing the reloading into the choreography was truly excellent.

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Maybe he was worried someone would listen. Maybe his did, I guess we will have to wait for 4 to find out for sure.

maybe you should kill yourself

This is going to sound retarded, but I'm willing to give that a pass as he had been in retirement for years before 1 began, it could be explained as him being rusty.

just saw III

what a gratuitous gore-fest

perfect

finally adding enemies with body armor during the continental siege was the touch i was looking for

1 is just your average redbox/netflix B movie with elements of genius that shine through, it was based on a script about a retired Vietnam veteran sniper coming out of retirement to take revenge. 2 is where the series becomes very original. 1 uses ugly TV filters too often and is usually ugly to look at.

it's literally this. he's rusty, coming out of retirement and still in mourning over his wife/dog

>the shootouts in 2 are much better
You mean the shootouts where approximately 100 goons run in into frame and get shot in the head once they're at arm's reach from Wick? Such great shootouts. Worst part about 3 as well, just how easily they dispatch of an entire compound of incompetent arabs.

incompetent arabs are a fucking thing though. superior tactics ALWAYS > goon swarm

Yes, it's a thing that reeks of bad writing

>superior tactics
What superior tactics? The thing I hate the most about these scenes is that they don't even do anything clever with the scenes. There ARE no tactics to speak of. Wick just kept walking and plowing through them while they either kept missing or forgetting to shoot.

>What superior tactics? The thing I hate the most about these scenes is that they don't even do anything clever with the scenes. There ARE no tactics to speak of. Wick just kept walking and plowing through them while they either kept missing or forgetting to shoot.
I really think 3 dipped hard on quality.
It feels like they splited "3" into two separate installments.

or will they go Fast and furious and just keep pumping wick flicks?

wick and sophia were using their training as their advantage. they were constantly moving cover to cover and watching each other's backs

the arabs should've amassed as one big swarm and pushed even from an entrance, instead of in groups

I agree entirely. 2>=1>3.

The middle east part lead to him finding the man above the table which leads to him going to kill Winston and ultimately betraying the high table.

It's been 5 years since the first came out, but only 1 week in-universe has passed.

retarded shit

I find it odd how European the high table essence is, and then that guy above it, is a muslim/semite.

The first couple of movies take place within the span of a few days. It's not off

We're probably seeing the US base goings on. There are hotels all over the world and they mirror their culture from what we see in John Wick 3

>middle east
Fucking American """education""". Are you all this retarded to think North Africa is the middle east?

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Did you pay attention when Bronn said the Assassins might have been named after Hassan-i? Did you pay attention when John cut off his ring finger like the dudes in Assassin's Creed? The whole Assassin order is implied to descend from the original Assassins in the Middle East.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Assassins

>There are hotels all over the world and they mirror their culture from what we see in John Wick 3
That I could dig, but it's interesting none the less; The High Table , Arthurian reference, Excomunicated, Christian reference, the guy above the table, a North African semite?? remeber he is "above".

I'ts like those tarantino movies full of references to kaballah.

I did.

Should've had a desert sniper battle (ala Bourne Identity's sniper battle) between John and a bunch of other snipers, instead of the 20minute dog fight with Halle Berry.

The Asian doctor in John Wick is also the key maker from Matrix 2 or 3. Waiting for Agent smith to come out in JW4.

suprisingly autistic response

shut up faggot

I thought the end of 2 where it's revealed fucking everyone is an assassin apparently was kinda dumb, but I haven't seen 3 yet, so maybe it makes it up.

1 was great though.

Or maybe trinity? She’s may be too old for the action. Maybe have her as someone’s ward or something. Would love to see Neo Morpheus kick Trinitys ass.

>Maybe have her as someone’s ward or something. Would love to see Neo Morpheus kick Trinitys ass.
that would be cringe.
go watch a matrix remake then.

The Wachowski sisters are making new matrix movies. Rumored to be starring Michael B Jordan.

onions-approved action shlock

Keanu makes good friends throughout his career and always helps them out. Daniel Bernhardnt in the first film and Tiger Chen in this film were both in the Matrix Reloaded too.

2 was trying too hard to pander to tacticool krav maga and target shooting dorks. Look at that target shooting video Keanu posted before the release, its obvious what they were going for with that. It really got boring fast. 3 was a return to being a martial arts movie and it was way more fun as a result.

>everyone's an assassin
3 makes it worse lol.

I... agree. What happened in Morraco didn't provide much unique action except John having a partner. The dogs were alright, but it felt pointless overall

>John Wick
8/10

>John Wick 2
5.5/10

>John Wick 3
6.5/10

For all the world building, it all just manages to be. "Dude, I will use this thing to get that thing, this is the way the underground works." There is no real tension if suddenly the writers can just write that John Wick actually had a special thing so that he can be helped by the Russians to do this other special thing to reach the Man Above the High Table so that he can enact a special request to take off his excommunicado. John Wick was an excellent little package where every fight made sense to be happening and it was just a man enacting revenge. John Wick 2, while it had probably the most sensible interesting story, just had really boring fight sequences and stale set pieces. John Wick 3 goes the other way, with a story that makes absolutely no sense, puts him right back where he started off, but with a lot of changes in scenery and creative fights.

Does it? It's not like swarms of citizens attacked Wick in 3. Just a handful of dudes each moment.

There was no death in the series more satisfying than the Russian boss' son.

It is established that John has ties to the Russians in 1, as he speaks fluent Russian, is known by an apparent big name among the Russian mob, and is universally known as the Baba Yaga. What more did you need to be shown to know that he probably had a favor he could call in from said Russians?

>John Wick 2, while it had probably the most sensible interesting story
I disagree. There was nothing sensible about the main villian trying to kill Wick after he completed the contract. That only happened because the writers need a villian who can send scores of bodyguards to fight, and get killed by, Wick.

That he was fucking excommunicado? That no one should be able to help him? The fact that all they had to do was kill some goons and stab a hand as punishment is retarded. It makes the whole concept bunk.

Sensible compared to three which was all over the fucking place. There is a sequence of events in three where right after the first two acts where John goes all over the fucking place to meet the super elder assassin, HE IMMEDIATELY JUST SIDES WITH WINSTON.

It makes sense if you consider the fact that Santino knew John would be coming for his head once the protection provided by the marker was no more. Santino burned John's house, the house he built so many fond memories with his wife in. Now remember what he did over a puppy and a car. Frankly, I'm surprised that Santino didn't have a marksman tailing John with orders to plug him as soon as Gianna was dead.

manlets > book > hotel > knives > horse > baldy

>knives that far down
but yeah the baldy fight was fucking awful, what was up with that. He's not even a real fighter, why would they use him?

>John Wick 3 goes the other way, with a story that makes absolutely no sense, puts him right back where he started off, but with a lot of changes in scenery and creative fights.
This.
DABID level of narration.

Excommunicado means that he is barred from Continental services, and the fact that he had apparently been taken in by the Russians and made an adoptive member of their family could possibly take precedence.
As for the hand stabbing, you just don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

In comparison to JW1 I'm not such a huge fan of the whole "expanding the universe" schtick that they're pushing, I always felt the mysteriousness of the Continental was the main reason it was so enticing. Plus there's a bit of slightly iffy CGI thrown in - Halle Berry's dogs jumping caught my eye a few times, plus a long shot of the bike chase

I am such a sucker for hall-of-mirrors fight scenes though, this really has one of the best. The Adjudicator is surprisingly well played, I loved her merry band of sushi chefs. Nice to see my Asian-martial-arts lads popping up: Cecep Arif Rahman, Tiger Hu Chen Yayan Ruhian.

They did go a little overboard with the neon and bright colours, though. Lets be honest

>Excommunicado means that he is barred from Continental services
that's wrong but now I understand why you disagree with me

Are you retarded? That’s clearly keanu reeves.

>HE IMMEDIATELY JUST SIDES WITH WINSTON
Winston appealed to John's memories of Helen. He left the criminal underworld to be a better man for her sake,and Winston bet everything on that with an emotional appeal.

The asians that weren't Iron Chef were based. They did a lot of cool shadow tricks where they were just chilling in the dark areas of the room that felt like real ninja shit and not just camera trickery like the final fight which was absolutely dumb.

I thought he was decent, maybe could have done with fewer jokes

Sure, fine, but understand that we spent roughly an hour going over this entire journey including the introduction of the most highest authority in the underground and John just goes "yep sure im on your side now". Even if it can be made to make sense logically, it's not an interesting sequence of events.

Thinking about it now, you're right. I was just put off by the fact that the taxi driver in the beginning also had ties to the assassin world.
>He's not even a real fighter
youtube.com/watch?v=1wyqKmE39BM
He's a stunt actor!

>even though the second act's main fight scene with Halle Berry could have been like 5 minutes shorter.
Saw the film last night.
It's the only part of the film that I felt dragged.
I came to see John Wick, not this other character though the dogs savaging crotches left right and centre was kinda awesome.

Oh no, I'm not arguing that it is, I'm saying that there is a logic to it.

Oh? Please explain how I'm wrong.
Not trying to be a cunt about it, I'm genuinely curious.

Mark Dacascos was a former martial artist

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Dacascos

Excommunicado means you get no services from the underground anywhere. Including the Chinese doctor guy and the Bowery. So him getting help, even from the Russians, who are not part of the Continental, should put them at just as much of a punishment as everyone else.

Which is what im saying, the writers are literally just writing "uhhhhhhhhhh actually there is something else" when they're in the corner.

weird, he barely does any fighting in the end. Just keeps disappearing.

I really liked 3, might be my favorite of the trilogy. The camera work and choreography were a series best, very few cuts and lots of creative and fun kills. I hadn’t cared for Laurence Fishburne’s character in 2, so was surprised how much I liked him here. I thought the weakest element was the villain, seemed a little too meta and was more distracting then fearsome. The set design was incredible though and the pacing was perfect. I was generally happy with the story and it was cool to get out of the city and see the rest of John Wick’s world. I fucking love Keanu, he was giving it his all and the Matrix call back with ‘Guns. Lots of guns’ made me smile. Def glad I saw it in theaters, great looking film, very kinetic and really nice mise-en-scène

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How was my boy Bobi? Was he a good villain?

The John Wick vs The World premise was pretty disappointing. The action sequences were certainly better like the attack dogs and knife throwing fights but the conflict didn't escalate from the previous films. He's just fighting mooks like usual.

All John does in the film is just go from person to person. Go to his orphanage director, then to his former friend who he has the marker of, who takes him to her old boss, who gives them directions to the elder, who tells him to go to Winston. The plot of the films after the first have always been pretty weak because nothing can really beat the motivation of avenging your dead wife's last gift to you but it was especially weak here.

Hopefully the next film delivers on both of those fronts since Neo and Morpheus are going to team up to fight their overlords again.

Okay then, but my point about not killing the goose that lays the golden eggs stands. All the Russians did was help him leave the country, hence the stabbing of her "helping hands". Presumably it would be more trouble than it's worth to kill her and find someone else to lead the Russians without inviting open war.

>taxi driver
I didn't mind that twist as it implies that the NY taxi network is basically an informant/messaging network for the powers that be, and if NY is that way taxi drivers in other world cities might be the same.

>I thought the weakest element was the villain, seemed a little too meta and was more distracting then fearsome.
So are we talking about that adjudicator girl or that Japanese guy? If it's the former then I'd have to say she's the weakest villain in the series because she's just a vessel for the High Table with no real personality. The Japanese guy was alright though. But he doesn't compare to the Russian Mafia boss and his son in 1.

Well he was the first guy to get killed by Wick.

>Excommunicado means that he is barred from Continental services,
He killed a member of the High Table on continental grounds.
The bitch that did the same act got ice`d in the first movie and John didn't.
So what was the real reason the manager, Winston, did not kill Wick?
And why did he shoot him at the rooftop?
Precisely because we don't know , nor the character knows the real motivations for Winstons action , that the final scene is void; Audience nor POV character knows what is going on...so there is no drama, no narration. I understand it was all a political consecuence of johns wicks's marker being used, but still, because we don't know nor have any view (other POV) to the repercusions of Johns Wick actions at the Continental to other characters of the World means there is no story, no narrative, but just actors emoting their reactions because nobody knows wtf is going on.

Just like GOT.

They stabbed her hands but they also killed a whole bunch of her men, that's punishment enough for as you say why kill the goose? The HT seem if anything rather pragmatic. Look at their move for parley after it seems like Wick can go on all day during the hotel siege.
Cut their losses spankings all around and the business as usual. Makes sense to me.

The two SEA ninja that give John a helping hand so that they can have a fair fight, what language were they speaking? They weren't Japs like the other ninja, was it bahasa? Tagalog?

What happened to her?

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They stabbed the Russian woman's helping hands and killed several of her men for helping John get out of the country.
Morpheus was given seven cuts, one for each bullet he gave John, as his aid led directly to the murder of Santino on Continental grounds.
Winston was marked for death because he neglected his duty by giving John a head start when he should have immediately declared him Excommunicado.
The High Table tailored each punishment to suit the crime.

Was referring to Iron Chef, he was too immersion breaking for me. The Filipinos’ bantz were believable, this guy’s behavior was just over the top. Didn’t mind the villainous, she was more of a plot device as a character but it was good to have a foil for the non-physical characters like McShane and Fishburne

Indonesian Bahasa. Thought it was flip when I first heard them but then I cut through their accent.

>The High Table , Arthurian reference
You mean to say that you think the high table was specially an Arthurian ref?
I didn't think so. That's the Round Table.
A high table is just a generic term for an elevated place for the "elders" to sit. Shit we had a High Table for the teachers in my boarding school dining hall, same with my university college's dining room and that table was actually physically elevated above the students' tables. It's just a term used here in a vague mafioso type sense of the orchestrating powers that be.
That bit the high European, almost aristocratic notions mixed with ancient Arab assassin was interesting enough.

John's obviously going to kill the Man Above the Table at some point and retake the ring.

who?

I'm sure she's still working at the bar.

It isn't. You are just a low IQ sewer rat.

They were both in The Raid 1 and/or 2 so I guess something Indonesian

>A high table is just a generic term for an elevated place for the "elders" to sit. Shit we had a High Table for the teachers in my boarding school dining hall, same with my university college's dining room and that table was actually physically elevated above the students' tables. It's just a term used here in a vague mafioso type sense of the orchestrating powers that be.
Not a term, but a meme.
A social structure from Euro feudal society?
>That bit the high European, almost aristocratic notions mixed with ancient Arab assassin was interesting enough.
Interesting for me, but It took me off too.
If the russians are the russians
And the heirarchy of the organisation European themed
that guy above it all being a morrocan representing the muslim theme assassins creed as the power above ...i don't know.

Why would he be the mediating power behind all others?
A power that is not culturally aligned to the theme of the high table?

Dunno
what do you think of it?

>the Man Above the Table
I spent most of the film trying to remember where I recognised him from. Turns out he was Caesar in L O S T

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If you saw the Imax version, it shows a couple of decrepit old hags to the far left of "the one above" . The one on the left is Lawrence Wachoski.

At the start, in the park when the incommunicado text is sent out, like 8 people in the space of 20m look at thier phones.

Whats Hugo Weaving's character's gimmick going to be?
We've already had
>Irish mobsters
>Chinese gangsters
>Ninja that moonlights as sushi chefs
>Indonesian silat fighters working for ninja chef
>Russian ballet troupes
>Middle Eastern OG Assassins

thank god for The Raid dudes.

Right? I saw the guy from the kitchen fight in the Raid 2 in the background of the sushi shop and got so giddy

Aussie bar brawler, like in Ong Bak.

I felt 3 was lacking story-wise, some things didn't really make sense even for a JW flick

Dumb fuck

This

Liked the baldy and his students, they could have done more with them though I think

and CHAD the director himself is keanus stunt double from the matrix films

>I disagree. There was nothing sensible about the main villian trying to kill Wick after he completed the contract.

John was being forced out of retirement to kill someone he liked. When he initially refused, his house was destroyed as a warning. D'Antonio had every right to kill him according to the rules, and if Wick fought back he'd be excomunicado and Wick 3 would have happened earlier. D'Antonio wanted to kill Wick because:
>He was a witness
>He was pissed enough to want revenge
>He was capable enough to get revenge

It's just a shame that we haven't had a genuinely good villain like Viggo in the sequels though. Sure we've got better lieutenants and combative rivals, but I always thought that Viggo was the unsung character in the first one who really helped to balance out the story.

John's motivation to keep going was pretty weak.

>I wanna live to remember my wife

So weak that Winston talks him out of it in about 30 seconds. He should've just gone with "fuck kinda question is that? why should I want to die?"

any good torrent yet frens?

the revolver building scene reminded me highly of TGTBATU where Tuco is in the shop building the revolver, he even listens to the drum and i think it was a glass table and then it's combined with the scene where Clint sits in the Hotel room and cleans his revolver and Tucos mexican thugs approach him through the door and he shoots them. That's what i was kinda missing, that John Wick only shot one guy in that scene but it was fun nonetheless. shortly after he is fighting in a stable and moments after that on a horseback which i thought was genious. It's like a modern cowboy movie. Later even he wanders through a desert like both Tuco and Clint did in the movie. Someone really did some western homage in this.

the vidya references where also pretty neat here and there i give this third installment an honest 8,5/10, good summer flick and still quality after three installments.

You can see Keanus age slowly though his face is getting saggy.

I'm glad the Florist of Sai returned, whish he'd have more screentime but that's for the next movie maybe.

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Nice catch on the revolver scene
>Florist of Sai
I see what you did there.

It's exactly because of his wife that he listened to Winston. He left the underworld to be a better man for her, so Winston played on that by telling him that he had a chance to die a good man or live as the kind of monster he didn't want to be anymore.

This. I liked that the third movie brought up his wife as part of his moral conflict since that was the whole point behind his attachment to Daisy in the first place.

>I see what you did there.
well he has a homeless information network and the birds are basically his "cameras" and also the homeless of course. and he was shown first in that kimono (herro my name is ken-sama) dress so it was obviously a reference i think.

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I still can't believe they had fucking ninja re bang bang playing when they introduced the asian guy. jesus christ.

I felt like some of the fight scenes dragged on for too long in 3. also the music wasn't as memorable as 1 or 2.
for me it goes 2>1>3

It was meh at best. The "big threat" of being excommunicado just didn't materialize because of course he has some quest item to neutralize its effect. It's like they just pile on shit after shit with zero implication it existed offered beforehand, making everything a string of retarded asspulls.

Every scene in hipster central was also extremely cringy, hopefully they get blown up before this peters out and gets cancelled.

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What big quest item was this? The crucifix he used to get the Russians to help him out of the country? It was pretty obvious that he had ties with the Russian mob, he had to talk the woman into honoring it, and that favor did nothing to stop him from getting jumped.
The marker he had? Yeah, that was rather out of left field, but it still didn't neutralize the Excommunicado.
Even after the Elder gave him his shot at forgiveness, he wasn't safe until he got to the Continental.
So what "quest item" are you referring to?

Regarding the crucifix, that connection was already foreshadowed since the first movie, and even in a deleted scene in 2 it was heavily hinted that he had ties with church (or at the very least, they recognize him and his reputation).

>also the music wasn't as memorable as 1 or 2.
kek. one thing I noticed in the cinema was that a lot of the songs were reused from 1 & 2.

3 has that subway scene where the ninjas waste 2 assassins and the bodies suddenly disappear either that or everyone's an assassin

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Can't show her in the films anymore as she's probably hit the wall in the IRL years it's taken the series to be made, whereas it's only been 1-2 weeks in-universe.

why didn't john just say santino was the one who ordered the hit on his sister? wasn't the entire point of santino trying to kill him to silence this fact? why didn't john just tell gianna to tell the high table it was her brother who used a marker on john to kill her before killing herself?

The attack dogs was one of the most exciting part about the movie.

3 was good, but worse than the other two. Soundtrack left me very dissapointed. But I can't judge it quite yet, as it ended up in an even bigger cliffhanger than 2, gotta wait 4 since the movie was basically cut in half.

Gianna already figured it was Santino, likely because she knew that Santino had a marker. As for why she didn't tell the table, it's because she was something of a spiteful bitch. John didn't say anything because the odds are that the HT wouldn't believe him and even if they did, Santino was already seated at the Table, so they had no choice but to kill John, lest anyone get the idea in their head that you can flout the rules and get away with it.

Did Le Castlevania participate in the movie at all this time? It lacked the equivalent of these
youtube.com/watch?v=WNXsO6j0n4s
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He needs a hidden blade now

>Gianna already figured it was Santino, likely because she knew that Santino had a marker.
gianna literally asks john who ordered the hit when they were in the bathroom
>As for why she didn't tell the table, it's because she was something of a spiteful bitch.
spiteful to whom john? she even asks john if they were still friends and john says yes pretty sure if Gianna told the HT before john "killed" her santino would be in hot water

>Middle Eastern OG Assassins

What? When?

>gianna literally asks john who ordered the hit
You've never asked a question to which you either already had the answer or could make a good guess at?
>spiteful to whom john?
Yes. Aside from the fact that he was her friend and is now here to kill her, there's the implied sexual tension in the way she asks "And what was her name? This woman whose life has ended my own." and the fact that she strips buck naked in front of him without batting an eyelash.
>pretty sure if Gianna told the HT before john "killed" her santino would be in hot water
How would she tell them? It's not like John was letting her leave that room alive, and I doubt that she had a phone on her person. That aside, see the previous "spiteful bitch" comment. John came to kill her, why should she help him?

It's Said Taghmaoui he was also in La Haine

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The part where Bronn basically suggest that they are descended from Hassan I-Sabbath's assassin clan and then John Wick basically met up with the Elder who is basically acting like the Old Man of the Mountain.

>I doubt that she had a phone on her person.
john probably has one hell it would have been easy to find one
>why should she help him?
to spite her brother, she curses and looks fucking pissed when she finds out coulda screwed over santino and john both if she was really spiteful and john wouldn't have really had any problems with her fucking Santino over as while john can't kill the one holding the marker it doesn't specifically prohibit anyone else from doing so

How could a 50 year old woman take on a bunch of dudes? ASSASSIN DOGS! I NEARLY CREAMED MY PANTS I WANTED HALLE TO RAPE ME SO BADLY WHILE HER DOGGIES WATCHES ON READY TO TEAR ME LIMB FROM LIMB IF I BUSTED TOO SOON. They need to make a pocket masturbator to rub one out discretely in theaters.

The problem with that is that she knew John would probably be going after Santino once the marker wasn't protecting him anymore.So she dies on her own terms, John murders Santino, and the HT murders John to avenge her and her brother. Both parties that crossed her end up dead, and she doesn't have to do a damn thing to get it done.

Their organization is implied to be from the very same one started by Hassan-i Sabbah.

She already screws them both over by dying. John will go after Santino for twisting his arm and burning his house down, and the HT will kill John for killing one of their own.

gianna informing the ht of santino's hit would have likely led to him being unfit for her seat at the ht leaving santino on his own and with no official support from the ht, john going after santino would have just been icing on the cake

But then the HT doesn't go after John because they know that he only did it because Santino forced to via a marker. In doing nothing, she fucks them both over.

>and if Wick fought back he'd be excomunicado
Killing Santino wouldn't have made him excommunicado if he had done it off Continental grounds, it would just have made the Italian mafia try to kill him harder.

Haven't seen the third yet but I thought him saying "it can't be done" to Santino at the beginning of second movie and him just killing her with no issues was stupid. Or maybe I missed something there? I think the action was also sillier in second compared to first.

>The "big threat" of being excommunicado just didn't materialize because of course he has some quest item to neutralize its effect.
Well said.

I forgot why/when John got his finger cut off. Was it when he was in the desert with the head dude that told him to go back and kill Winston?

Yes that is when, he did it to prove his rededication to the table.

Him saying that it can't be done is him saying that Gianna is seated at the Table, and is, per the rules, untouchable. And he doesn't just kill her, Gianna died by her own hand, John just put a bullet through her head to be absolutely sure.

Seriously bros, does anyone get afraid that they can't keep this streak going? How is it that they've pumped out THREE fantastic movies while other series turn awful after a sequel or two?

>vidya references
I caught Asscreed (desert shenanigans and Bronn's speech) and Hitman (fugu fish), any others?

Why is sand nigger "above the table"?

>missing raid bros

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NO FUCKING BOOK

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MARK FUCKING DACASCOS
have you not seen brotherhood of the wolf nigger?

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Most of them are different versions of Wick’s theme is all

>why is a ninja doing ninja stuff

winston and john are buddies, he shot him off the roof cause he knew he had the bullet proof jacket and since john wick has plot armor winston knew he would survive the cgi fall. That way he was able to absolve himself from any wrong doings and john can go into hiding.

John is still fucked because killing HT members is never acceptable

the bald asian guy was manny??

YES

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Kill yourself you dumb faggot. 2 is the most fun out of all of them.

Based

Same with you mate

It's got sandniggers, so it's the same thing

Best doggo scene ever.

>Winston betrays John

Getting real tired of you fucking brainlets saying this. It was incredibly obvious he wasn't trying to kill him.

Yeah, I don't know why some people don't even get it. This sort of pretending to kill/maim your ally to deceive your enemy has been done plenty of times in fiction.