Has a sex scene ever made you uncomfortable or your guest?
Has a sex scene ever made you uncomfortable or your guest?
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Mektoub Intermezzo it premiered at Cannes to quite an outrage. From the director Blue is the Warmest Color. It's the second part of trilogy, first part is Mektoub Canto Uno, check that out.
Do you know where you are?
How long was the scene?
It's just eating pusy.
>Male Gazing
Sounds pretty homo
9/10 times, especially as theyre almost always unneccesary or borderline pornographic. If done properly though I dont mind
12 minutes allegedly.
>12-minute-long bathroom-floor cunnilingus sequence
based or cringe?
So is Kechiche based or not?
>The movie's raciest scenes, shot at the Dune nightclub, have been captured in a heavy and tense atmosphere, according to a witness of the shooting. "The director had the actors play for hours and hours the nightclub scenes, exhausting them, and the shooting lasted until very late at night. Kechiche absolutely wanted a non simulated sex scene, something the actors didn't want to do. But by the way of insistance, and over time and with alcohol being recurringly consumed, he managed to get what he wanted." According to this witness, this uneased the shooting team who witnessed this pressures coming from the director.
So basically he got his actors drunk, shot cunnilingus scene between Ophelie and her bf and then put it into the film without their permission. Ophelie left the screening and and wasn't at press conference. Is Kechiche based and /ourguy/ or just a sleazy asshole?
Post the scene.
>malegaze
somebody tell Yea Forums
The sex scenes from The Room really made me cringe
>Male Gazing
Is this some new SJW made up word they are pushing this month? I've seen it a few time this week.
>Male Gazing
In feminist theory, the male gaze is the act of depicting women and the world, in the visual arts and in literature, from a masculine, heterosexual perspective that presents and represents women as sexual objects for the pleasure of the male viewer. In visual presentations, the male gaze has three perspectives: (i) that of the man behind the camera, (ii) that of the male characters within the film's cinematic representations; and (iii) that of the spectator gazing at the image
The film critic Laura Mulvey coined the term male gaze, which is conceptually contrasted with the female gaze. As a way of seeing women and the world, the psychology of the male gaze is comparable to the psychology of scopophilia, the pleasure of looking; thus, the terms scopophilia and scoptophilia identify both the aesthetic pleasures and the sexual pleasures derived from looking at someone or something.
It just premiered at Cannes. It's not out yet.
Sounds like a genre you'd use to describe Jojo
That one has been around for years actually, it was a second-wave feminist thing
It’s just some idiots making a scene. Far more explicit scenes from various movies has been shown at Cannes over the years and nobody even raised an eyebrow, heck most of the times they were applauded.
Yeah, but this is 'art'
carpet-munching is never based
Are you 12?
are you a tranny?
It's unironically only a matter of time until he gets thrown in jail. His tendency to treat his actors like shit and borderline abuse them psychologically and sexually is well-known, and he's pissing off quite a lot of influential people.
Kek, Blue is the Warmest Color, also by that guy, is clearly the work of one very horny dude who loves lesbian sex passing off his lust as an artistic and LGBTQP+-positive experience. If you don't "get" his 12-minute long sex scenes then you are a pleb and probably a bigot too, it's the perfect smokescreen.
In late 80s there was shoegaze. And now we have this.
Name me a few prominent malegaze bands, Yea Forums.
why do frogs push explicit sex scenes in their films? I can just watch porn instead
What did he do except for the Blue is the Warmest Color stuff? This would be his second allegation of being piece of shit.
The Ophelie Bau sex scene is probably the best movie sex scene in existence
Some scenes in Nymphomaniac, yeah. I don't even know why I tried to watch this crap since I don't like Von Trier, to begin with...
Yes i agree, Ophelie is cute, that's why i will watch Intermezzo.
the BBC scene was kino
The French think all of human experience boils down to railing arthoes on rainy nights in Paris.
The Intersectionalists.
The Flaming Ovaries.
Male Spreading Valentine.
Enabledive.
The Stone Privileges.
Alison's College Debt.
Why is عبد اللطيف كشيش so based, bros?
it is when they are both cute girls
>white girl
>Arab guys
What appears to be the problem? This is happening every day in Europe. I thought liberals loved it?
hope he goes to prison
>frogs
He’s Moroccan, france is kek’d.
He used to be a literal who. Did like two movies, both of which allowed him to reap quite a bit of fame in festivals, but both of which were forgotten pretty damn quickly. Most people hadn't even heard of the guy until he released Blue is the Warmest Color.
>Male Gazing Garbage
The real art is the nigger orc she pushed out from her vagoo.
believe me he's culturally French like a lot of cultured Maghrebi
This one has only sex scene and it's cunnilingus. Also it's straight scene. The problem with Kechiche according to the critics is the way be shoots women. Large part of the film takes place in nightclub so there is lot of dancing. He shoots lot of ass and women in a way that people get offended because he focuses on the erotic aspects of dancing. That's why they call it male gaze because he puts the camera on the ass and just lets it be there. Pretty based if you ask me.
>thread about literal who film
shill detected
Most French are culturally French. ie there is no French ethnicity or people.
the director is also gay
They're onto something
>because he focuses on the erotic aspects of dancing
Which is the only aspect there is to it. Do people actually pretend it is anything but a display of sexual virility?
Yes, but what else did he do in relation to being a piece of shit. It seems like people at festivals don't give a fuck about his allegations since they accepted him to Venice with Uno Canto and now to Cannes with Intermezzo.
the ones on Polar were over the top.
like several minutes of Madds just plowing some bimbo. it was pretty funny though ngl
I have no problems with "male gaze" people are allowed to shoot hot things. But the getting his actors drunk and forcing them to fuck is sleazy. He's approaching dangerous levels of horniness.
True I guess.
It's an open secret that the guy can't get hard and filming the way he does is his way to cope.
Yes i agree, seems like lot of people dislike the way he focuses on asses. I have seen Canto Uno and there were some scenes like that and he was criticized but with this one based on descriptions it seems like doubled down on his choices and just doesn't give a fuck about criticism. So he went full on, just shooting asses.
Basically, after some technicians and the two main actresses in Blue is the Warmest Color started to talk about how unsufferable and creepy he was, he sperged out big time, reacted in the worst possible way and spent the next year insulting everyone involved and making a lot of enemies, by claiming that there was a concerted effort to sabotage his work of art, that the main actress was an ungrateful slut, and that everyone should basically suck his dick because he felt his movie was the ultimate work of art.
Why even put sex scenes in movies? Theyre awkward and unnecessary.
>Blue is the Warmest Color stuff
what did he do?
Based.
Sucking a duck? NO WOMAN WOULD EVER DO THAT WILLING
Source? I looked at his wiki and imdb page and couldn't find anything except a sexual assault allegation
If it’s uncut she wouldn’t.
Can someone confirm that the cunnilingus is indeed simulated?
Sex scenes in movies are pretty fucking boring imo.
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Am i tripping or the movie is out since last year? lol
He's just universally recognized as a piece of shit who treats his people like furniture. He's having a lot of trouble finding any actors, or even staff, willing to work with him, which is why he's now forced to hire literal whos.
That's part one son
Stop watching porn
Yes i agree that's just sleazy. Seems like he has no boundaries.
Didn't know that, thanks.
Actresses said that he forced them to do the sex scenes for extended periods of time, with prosthetic vaginas and their vaginas were bleeding at some point but he continued shooting or something like that. He made them very uncomfortable and pressured them into extended sex scenes.
This new one is Intermezzo, Canto Uno is already out yeah
Well there is only this. So it was not simulated allegedly.
Anything good in that one?
Why are brown men obsessed with white women?
Yes, watch the first scene.
their own women look like goblins
>He made them very uncomfortable and pressured them into extended sex scenes.
And the whores still did it
>“I’ve tried to show what really resonates within me to see bodies, tummies, the buttocks,” Keciche said. “What I have tried to do is to describe things through movement. I may appear facile. But they are quite magical. I wanted to film the magic of the body. It’s the metaphysical aspect of the body that I have portrayed.”
Legacy of colonialism and slavery, current economic world order, white women being richer and thus taking better care of themselves, western countries have more liberal mores and thus white women being more overtly sexualized...
what does pussy feel/smell/taste/look/sound like?
>sauce
>plox
fucking CRINGE
nigger
>ie there is no French ethnicity or people.
Not any more
>Ophelie Bau
I just google her. JESUS
newfag
Maybe that's why his producers left him and he had to sell his Palme to finish Mektoub.
>/ourguy/
>sleazy asshole
Pick two and only two.
Google the first scene of Mektoub Canto Uno.
No actually I'm Arab. And a woman but sshhhh.
Actually those two fit together pretty nicely.
Post muslima feet pls
But they had the same attitude during the Arab/Ottoman slave trade which occurred centuries before European colonization. What gives?
get out with your zoomer slang
Ok schlomo
kek
>I'm Arab
>biggest slavers in the history of the world complaining about colonialism
top kek
I guess it was the reverse at that time. White women were the enemy's women, and moreover the conquered people's women with Eastern Europe under Ottoman domination.
Similar to how white slave owners raped/fucked so many African slave women.
Do you have sources on white women being considered desirable by the Ottomans/Arabs?
>tfw progressives have become the prudes of western culture
honk honk
based user that has never pleasured or satisfied a woman
I'm not complaining! I'm glad my country got colonized. Sometimes I wish we were still part of the French empire.
I unironically have never like sex scenes in movies, I thought they were boring as shit.
So basically any reason will do to fetishize white women is what you're saying because your explanations so far are opposite
"Oh I don't want to do an unsimulated sex scene"
"tee hee being told to dance in front of a team of camera men and lighting staff for hours really got me in the mood tee hee let's have sex"
What a load of bullshit.
she 100% just did her job for le artistic french porn drama director man but then didn't want to sound like a slut afterwards.
>Arab woman posting in a Kechiche thread on Yea Forums
Assuming that's the truth, I literally know who you are.
This.
The reason they can't stand Kechiche is because he's still living by progressive rules cira-2000s
Based user whose dick is enough to please his hoe
Sounds like my catholic dad who walked out of any movie with a sex scene for being degenerate.
>Blue is the Warmest Color, also by that guy, is clearly the work of one very horny dude who loves lesbian sex passing off his lust as an artistic and LGBTQP+-positive experience.
The dinner scene with Joachim felt really uncomfortable and like a self insert. I thought it was a general jab at artists who act like that and I just went back and watched it now and the Emma calls him a genius after. First watch I even thought it was obvious he was only interested in her sexually and abusing his position as a gallery owner. I thought it was cynical and now it reads like a fantasy fulfillment.
>So basically any reason will do to fetishize
Yes lol. We all fetishize each other constantly. Do you know what the most popular porn tag is in France? Beurette. It means Arab girl.
Are you Algerian?
Never speak to me or my wife’s boyfriend again
>i.e. don't get horny looking at a woman shitlord! it's not allowed!
>turn off your biology you oppressive brute!
Women are fucking begging for men to act like men.
Well she had a sex scene in the first part and didn't have a problem with that. Kechiche must have done something to her since she left during the screening.
>stop appreciating young, female beauty
So the muh colonialism argument is bullshit and you're talking out of your ass. Got it
> he's extremely cultured
i think the exact same thought passed through the heads of those two dutch girls in morocco.
Why do 'liberal' women, i.e. lefty/alternative/artsy/dykes always have that dead soulless look in their eyes? Just watched the trailer and damn dude, glassy dead looking eyes.
How on earth hasn't he honestly been thrown in jail, it's essentially rape is what he's doing.
nail yourself to a cross faggot
Someone asked for plausible reasons why white women would be seen as desirable by brown men, I answered with what came to mind. I do think the way we lust is shaped by history, culture, economics etc. But we're always gonna lust.
>sound like
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it's pretty great
Sounds like your dad is fucking based and you're a tool
>Laura Mulvey
>She calls for a new feminist avant-garde filmmaking that would rupture the narrative pleasure of classical Hollywood filmmaking. She writes, "It is said that analysing pleasure or beauty annihilates it. That is the intention of this article."
At least they’re turning against brown incel fantasies.
Thanks for the link by the way it's interesting. Still reading thru it.
Some support for my new "people fetishize each other all the time and in all directions" theory:
>The slave traders of the Crimean Khanate became expert at manipulating their stocks so that they could offer Christian slaves to Muslim customers and Muslim slaves to Christians.
>They became connoisseurs of their clients’ widely varying tastes in beauty. And they developed a fine appreciation of the value of exoticism.
>Among the most highly-priced slaves on sale in the Crimean markets were blacks from sub-Saharan Africa, who found a ready market in all-white Muscovy
XD and rage comics are also things Yea Forums used to use, I wonder why you've stopped
So appreciating/viewing beauty is annihilating it? So is everything beautiful until observed? What kind of looney is this old bitch?
I don't know. On the press conference he said he is not under police investigation. Anyways he seems like a huge piece of shit.
>12 minutes
Why'd they have sex six times?
And now I've found reviews commending him for that scene because its him admitting he cant know the female experience, rather than reaffirming his own perspective of the other.
nice one
as if a man could last for a whole two minutes before busting
I think she wants to destroy the idea of female beauty in Hollywood films (with that article)
>DIRTY LEVANTINE ARAB
you live in dearborn? my gf is Jordanian
Cannes is so fucking wanky. Imagine being a film critic or part of the industry and walking out of a film half way through thinking you can pass judgment on the movie. Imagine clapping for 20 minutes and then clapping for 8 fewer minutes for another movie because you liked it less. The whole festival is about the industry having a self-felatory episode so why should a cunnilingus scene bat an eye
So where’s the scene? Is it really that bad?
Isn't that what they're already doing? They have really average non white girls filling a lot of roles, especially netgay is doing that shit. She should be protesting the rape and molestation of girls in hollywood not being some neo-feminist retard.
I'm not a prude and I don't buy into the Metoo/rape hysterics these days, but if you're gonna shoot a scene that demands something "extra" from the actors, like unsimulated sex, you really need to get that shit in writing and the participants willing and sound of mind (because women lose all agency and become toddlers after drinking a beer, according to feminists).
Then
>Europeans love sex and nudity and mock Americans for being such prudes
Now
>Sex scenes are gratuitous and unnecessary and allow white males to stare-rape women. Also, have sex
Because there's nothing there. Why do you think they become lefty alt artsy dykes
>you cant satisfy women without submission
Oh boy
>you live in dearborn?
No in Germany right now.
>my gf is Jordanian
Do you fetishize her? I bet she fetishizes the hell out of you.
>watch European movies
>expect anything but sex scenes
What were they thinking?
theres no way those were prosthetic vaginas. those chick were full on lezzing out
She probably wrote that shit decades ago. Really most of the stuff that you see materialized in the SJW movement or whatever was written and theorized decades ago.
Sex scenes are so gratuitous and unnecessary. Give me ONE sex scene that added something to the plot.
>Orchestrating a rape for your movie
Based
Why do leftys even keep living? Whats the point? They just live out their vain hedonistic lifestyle and corrupt as much as they can before they go? I have day to day personal experience with these types, I think I lack the ability to truly understand their existence.
The sex scene in BR2049
enjoy your throat cancer, it’s what painfully killed my father
Am I the only one that gets embarrassed and has to look away at sex scenes? Same with kissing scenes
It's all part of the spectacle. Plus -- though I think it's dumb regardless -- these people are seeing 20+ films in a week and a half. Walking out of ones that are blatantly a waste of time doesn't seem too awful.
There was no sex scene. It was only implied
>Do you fetishize her? I bet she fetishizes the hell out of you.
I get the fetishizing stuff, but isn't that a pretty terrible foundation for a long term relationship? When the taboo aspect wears off, what are you left with?
>film shows early stages of a relationship forming
>turn off film and cry in bed while shaking uncontrolably
They claimed they had them.
Empire of the Passion, The Piano Teacher, The Piano, The Baby of Macon, Prospero's Books.
>liberals are the new conservative prudes
Welcome to clown world everyone
This, but with handholding and sustained eye contact
It's just for spicing up your sex life with taboo stuff. And I would say most relationships start for shallow reasons but maybe that's just me.
sex scenes are dumb as shit. If I want to see sex I watch porn.
The one in Watchmen, on the ship. That shit is hilarious.
>They claimed they had them.
an excuse they were told to say so they don't get busted for making actual porn
Just typical Nafri things
Only Americans hated the film. Especially David Ehrlich (colossal fucking loser) and the IndieWire troupe.
Here's what French critics thought:
Do you work?
youtube.com
What do you think of this video?
Black pussies are visually disgusting.
I'm not sure how it's possible to be as perpetually miserable and constantly offended as leftard SJWs, but I volunteer to end their pain.
all pussies are
I watched Bruce Almighty with my girlfriend and her parents and the scene of Jennifer Aniston having a wild orgasm was rough.
People have sex!?!? OMG NO! STOP THIS DELETE THIS FILM!
No!
Yeah, the initial attraction can be shallow but to stay together you also have to share similar values and genuinely enjoy each other's company. I guess that makes sense.
Wonder what she thinks of it all now? I know the 'real' feminists are fucking appalled at how it turned out. My grandmother always advocated for women's rights (she was one of the first female doctors to graduate from Virginia State). When she turned 18 the first thing she did was buy a pistol and has kept it on her all the way up to now (91 years old). She told me a year ago that after seeing all of this created she wished that women couldn't vote and that it never happened.
Left me fucking stunned.
Lack of purpose, plus the media bombarding you with "BUY THIS! SEE THAT! ACQUIRE WEALTH! TAKE A CREDIT LINE TO LIVE THAT INSTAGRAM LIFESTYLE!" 24/7 breaks people's minds.
Can one of you incels just post the damn webm already
You know something went wrong when egalitarianism is literally fascism
Are you fucking retarded? Read the thread, the film just had premiere in Cannes. It's not out yet.
the worst timeline
>Do you work?
Yes part time.
>What do you think of this video?
It's pretty funny. Should it be taken literally? I dunno. The migrants I know want to work. Except a few illegals who aren't allowed to work and are also depressed as shit but too ashamed to go back home empty handed.
I understand that taking in a lot of migrants and refugees isn't easy though. I don't have a perfect solution for all of this. Climate change and war is going to push ever more people on the roads... Europe probably won't be able to deal with it... Then far right parties will close all the borders under penalty of death... And I might get expelled in the xenophobic wave that follows... Now you've made me depressed.
Hopefully I can get a white man to knock me up before that and I'll be "one of the good ones."
An actor is an artist. I truly believe that when a great actor is in character, they're not really themselves. That's when they're easy to abuse and vulnerable. Imagine playing the part of a sexcrazed slut for hours on end because the director won't let you leave and you're just exhausted. I don't think it's impossible for the role you're playing to start seeping into yourself at that point and as a result do something you wouldn't normally do.
The sex scene in the 300 sequel seemed to last forever it felt like 20 minutes I started to get uncomfortable
My mom was a pretty hardcore commie (not the american lib type, the maoist type) feminist in her youth but, now thinks most modern women are whores and make having "real" families basically impossible.
Hot.
Someone post WebMs from Canto Uno.
My mom is from Canada :)
I'd have agreed with you until a few weeks ago. All of a sudden a bunch of south american states are making it illegal for 13y old rape victims to get an abortion. I don't know maybe modern feminism has a point when they say there's still a long way to go.
more Ophelie Bau sex scenes?
And they call me the incel.
At least that was with Eva Green And was a little funny
*states in the American south
And thank God for them.
Overreaching a bit. That's not how it is with actors at all. Not anymore anyway. They used to be at the bottom of society, for good reason.
Is bourgeois careerist feminism condescending and irksome? Yes. Is campus/tumblr moralism annoying? Also yes. Doesn't mean feminism as a whole is bad forever. It's better than the American Talibans.
You do know Plan B comes with every rape kit that the police use right?
she's gorgeous
no excuse for forcing her to fuck on camera or whatever happened but she has a wonderful body. love her skin tone too.
Is this from the movie in OP?
I don't know which states. Either the one with all the incest or the one who's main claim to fame is being where Dorothy's from in the Wiz of Oz. Those are south american right?
If only they were the actual Taliban...
Now because Kechiche was asshole we may never get the third part of the trilogy.
OP is Mektoub Intermezzo, this is Mektoub Canto Uno.
Based. Are there some other movies that does this?
>European cucks are happily serving up women like this to Muslim invaders
I watched under the skin with my mom it was a little awkward yeah
from the first part. the second one has a ten minute plus explicit scene of her which is what prompted walk outs
she's literally brown eyed and a brunette you LARPing 56%er
She looks mixed Arab to me. French women don't get those kind of hips and they certainly aren't blessed with that much butt.
what's the problem with any of this? isn't this what actors normally do for a living or have I been misled? I know what happens in front of a camera is the tiniest minority of what they do
so this is why captain marvel didn't ever have to address the fact that she would have been on her period at one point or another during the film. men wouldn't have considered that fact
damn this is never going to see the light of the day outside of cannes without heavy edits
French films are incredibly comfortable about showing the tits and pussy of its young actresses.
That doesn't cover any situation in which the rape isn't immediately reported. I'm not sure where I stand on the abortion debate: sanctity of life vs bodily autonomy. I do think a legal exception, or some form of protection, should be given to minors and rape victims. My issues with what I've heard about the south american law, is that it's an almost blanket ban which would even force a woman who has had a misscarriage to procide proof she did not abort or be jailed. I think that's one step in the wrong direction. You're basically just treating young women like baby factories at that point.
I doubt that. It's French. Kechiche said at the press conference that he is going to add material to the film instead of taking anything out. It's 3,5 hours and he wants to add some 15 minutes. Also what you replied to is unconfirmed although it seems likely considering Kechiche's past behaviour and Ophelie's walkout from screening.
Terminator.
Creation is an inherently violent action. He is a true artist in that he is willing not break a few eggs (sluts) to make an omelette (kino)
>pleasuring a woman
why would you waste your time?
He was clearly playing with the situation. The actors are between the sword and the wall, either tell him to fuck off and possibly get the movie shelved halfway through, meaning they lose the chance of being in le artsy hip director kínôgràphïe, or they go through with it.
why doesn't this guy just make pornos instead of passing off this softcore shit as actual films
Because back then it was fun, soft core erotica like Emanuelle, and now it's morbid unsimulated cqrpet munching on a filthy bathroom floor for 12 minutes.
We used to like sex in movies back when it was portrayed as an enjoyable act of love.
It is called wearing little to no make-up.
Found the nigger
>is male gaze unless they are showing dykes or fags fucking each other.
Cannes is a degenerate festival full of hypocrites. What a bunch of faggots.
>Is Kechiche based and /ourguy/ or just a sleazy asshole?
yes
sad, I liked Blue is the Warmest Colour a lot but didn't realize the director was some lunatic pervert
Someone post the vagina
You couldn't tell??
I'm the one you replied to, most of my family has been in medical at some point. My mom was a trauma nurse/NP. She had to work downtown at a clinic helping 'innercity underprivileged youths.' She said the amount of women aged 13-25 that came through pregnant was staggering and they all said the same thing. "I ain't keepin' dis her baby, git it out of me." (we're from the south, highest black % in the US) My mom's job was to determine the babies' health and it didn't matter because they were going to abort it regardless because they have no concept of responsibility of human life. She said they would come through and laugh and joke about how they drink and smoke and are just going to get knocked up again and abort it later on. It was a big joke for them. THAT is why people are against abortion not because of rape victims. It wasn't limited to black women either, liberal college women would come in and act the same way. Some of them were proud they were going to abort their baby. Made my mom fucking furious.
/Our guy/
yeah hes like a muslim 4channer.
Im proud of him even if I would gladly put every muslim into a gas chamber.
I once talked to the owner of an arthouse cinema and he told me that all these pretentious art films full of sex scenes are watched mainly by dirty old men, and that the filmmakers specifically target that sort of audience.
>be le sophisticated auteur
>actually make fancy porn for people who don't know how to handle Internet pornography
>critics eat up your schlock as le art
truly a clown world
Feminism is bad in essence. Women's rights aren't bad. Feminism is female supremacy.
Miss me with that dumb bullshit.
I think it also has something to do with the beauty of white women. Beauty is definitely informed by culture but not absolutely so. It probably isn't coincidence that all people think white people are the hottest (except white people who will give you a different answer depending on who they fethishize)
>from the director of BITWC
of fucking course
I thought it was a great love story
>has to have makeup to make them not look like dead, soulless cretins
Yeah, I don't think so.
Does the Neptunia anime count?
its french cinema.
worse shit has been released on the mainstream.
You must be that Moroccan tranny.
iirc the male gaze is about whomever the audience is meant to self insert in. So a male character that's meant to be the audience insert looking at a woman = male gaze. A female character meant to be the audience self insert looking at a woman = not male gaze.
With a 10 minute of pointless sex in the middle of the film.
What about the Female Gaze?
Can't it be both?
Objectifying men is fine because it’s been done to women since the beginning of time
sex isn't pointless. the problem is the director's treatment of the actors
aren't those shots for male nerds? like power fantasy type stuff?
I would agree but i found the sex scene in BITWC to be pointless and too long. It could have been much shorter and the point wouldn't have been lost.
fair enough
No, it was literally for women. MCU's success is driven heavily by women and soiboiz.
It's a thing tho men don't have a history of being objectified like women do.
It's like telling a rape joke to a friend and telling the same joke to a rape victim.
Actors who refuse to do nude or sex scenes are not real actors imo. That's the difference between being an artist and just doing a job for payment/fame or some other of superficial reward - An artist not only isn't afraid of giving everything, they want to give everything for their craft. I can't take these people seriously.
Women are meant to be objectified. It is biology at work.
i thought blue was a genuine attempt at a drama but then i realized it was just an excuse for the french dude to shoot sex scenes
user, I must thank you for leading me to the promised land.
since it's only him giving her oral, it's disgusting. only betas do that
How can anyone say male gaze is inherently wrong and turn around and attempt to justify female gaze? Wouldn't it also be inherently wrong, and thus not justifiable?
just what I was thinking.
Maybe the film was also shit, and it wasn't just the sex scene .
She didn't refuse the nude scene, she has a nude scene in the first film. The problem is Kechiche's method basically getting her and her bf drunk just to film them during some sexual act. Just because he wanted real sex during film. Then he put it into film without asking. Nudity was not problem for her i think she just felt betrayed by the director. Director is supposed to be somebody who creates safe atmosphere on set and can be trusted.
sex is a part of life. you can add subtext to a sex scene the same way you can add it to a breakfast or dance scene
>implying women are more than just baby factories.
>people get offended because he focuses on the erotic aspects of dancing
Good idea, we should generally ban everything nice and beautiful from theater. Did you know that there is sex-positive feminism as well that doesn't scream rape every time a woman sleeps with a celebrity or is involved in some erotic scene? All this prude-crap that encourages women to act like immature cunts who can't be held responsible for their actions is coming directly from America.
this seems like an advertising trick to me,dude and the actress generate controversy so people is more interested on his bargage.
This is literally the plot of a Julia Roberts movie. And ironically, the movie pointed out that whoever does this kind of stunt will inevitably be subject to a damaging lawsuit.
i cant seem to find the pic. it looks nothing like her. the nignog dad just ayylmao'd out of the picture too
>sex is a part of life.
So is taking a shit
>you can add subtext to a sex scene
and yet that almost never happens
This. Women are good for nothing besides looking sexy and bearing children, which are the only things men can't do better.
I mean it happens, but please don't try to argue that taking a shit can be romanticized as easily as sex.
If you don't perceive it as such then I don't know what to tell you, I guess look out for more meaning when two characters shag?
>She said they would come through and laugh and joke about how they drink and smoke and are just going to get knocked up again and abort it later on. It was a big joke for them. THAT is why people are against abortion not because of rape victims.
What? Because they want these clearly irresponsible people to be forced to raise unwanted children and collect welfare? How does this work?
okay, I'm gonna watch it.
>making 13-year-old sheboons birth more nogs to own the libs
This type of film doesn't need advertising stunts, it's French film. It will only have distribution in France just like the first part. Nobody will buy this film and distribute it around the world, also people will more likely be disgusted by his behaviour and they won't see the film.
>Has a sex scene ever made you uncomfortable or your guest?
At the time i had never heard of broke back mountain and it seemed cool to share some time with my mom watching a movie together. We both noped out of it when they started kissing.
Lol
Nigger
No, but all the same don't you try to argue that you need sex to portray romance. In fact it's such a coarse way to portray romance that traditionally films that focused on portraying love stories through sex were classified in their own genre - erotica. But at least erotica had the decency to not pretend to be highbrow art.
The former is debatable.
I dont know about the states,but in europe the first movie was fairly promoted.
it wasnt in the mega mainstream but it was in the news and in some theaters.
the phone sex in "Her"
Faggot, actors are just glorified whores, they shouldnt be prude about anything they have to do on scene.
Whether the system of abortion is legal or not, they're still going to kill their baby. Doesn't matter. That's my point, they don't care about it either way.
Liberal women are 'empowered' by murdering their babies that they irresponsibly had. Black women are just reckless and don't care either way because they'll just do it themselves.
>big think
White women have a higher % of abortion than blacks.
Really? I'm in europe and we didn't have it here. In US it also didn't have distribution.
...
Didn't Cannes suck his cock for the whole festival for BITWC? Did they turn on him cus he dared have a sex scene with a man in it?
I am from spain,we are very close to those frogs so I guess that culturally speaking it makes sense that we see a lot of their stuff.
Why are you prescribing what a work of cinema need or doesn't need? You are considering the concept of sex with alot of objective weight, when it's really just a tool that can be used to fit a filmmaker's vision. Your line of reasoning can be taken to absurd conclusions as well, I don't "need" kissing to portray romance either, I don't even "need" dialogue. See what I mean?
You then try to characterize erotica, sneakily shifting the goalposts by adding that such films "focus" on portraying love stories through sex, neglecting that an action or a horror can portray sex as well, perhaps a one-off scene from it's usual genre thing.
Also appealing to tradition fails here, consider how "The Big Sleep's" censorship of it's own concept butchered it's already complicated plot. And the term "highbrow" can mean alot of things, but here are a few erotic films that are considered in some way as such.
>Fireworks
>Pink Narcissus
>Belladonna
>La Bete
This is not counting the endless amount of other films that portray sex, of course from when we decided to stop being so damn prudish.
Except in Canada. They like sucking dog dicks there for some reason.
Which movie?
>tfw saw splice with my dad
How did that movie get greenlit? It's such nightmare to watch.
why is it always non-white men with a white female
>Do the needful
Clean your toilet
not always but yeah it happens a lot in media these days because it's provocative
it gets the people going
‘Badic Instinct’
how is that rape?
Having seen some of these pretentious art house films in the past,
This is true.
her sex scenes were absolutely kino in the first one. is she doing any of the same in this?
Dude rubbing your dick on something is the penultimate expression of art. Everyone loves a good orgasm you fucking bigots.
>meanwhile her boyfriend saw them fucking through the window and is outside just crying like a little cuck
this movie is woke
for real?
>penultimate
There are construction men building a new house across my street. Everyday they look at blondes pass by without so much as hesitating. Sometimes little girls pass by when they are walking home from high school, and they turn to look at their asses. It's fucking disgusting, and I wish I would pull their teeth out. Male gaze is real, and men need to learn to stop making it so obvious that they are looking at girls because it's so fucking pathetic.
>that one faggot who replies to everyone with some gay opinion that no reads
Her
If they dont whistle or catcall, its alright you fucking fag.
I stare at hot girls. I'd love for you to try to do something about it, faggot.
Absolute based.
You’re welcome. It is honestly a sight to behold
Our guy
>implying anyone posting on this board would do it often enough to cause cancer
Why are sandniggers so cringely obsessed with the act of sex? Is it because of the inbreeding?
>Arab Tranny
What did you think of the New Aladdin?
I think most of the time they are pretty boring and on occasion I get uncomfortable. However if it is a hot one I will come back and rub one out.
Rofling
you've been watching porn instead of films user
I semen stained those mountain tops
I don't know what to think about this.
thats just being a scumbag. all this just to get some lame ass pussy eating scene that you can find in 2 seconds on porn hub. these types of idiots think they're being ground breaking too, its just a stupid advertising gimmick. omg real sex in movies wow. fuck off
Joi Division
Beat Fappening
Joo Fighters
NEET Puppets
Bow Down Now
The Splooges
Hello tranny
why are you degenerates obsessed with trannies
Old Boy
>males are LOOKING AT PEOPLE WALKING BY and it's fucking disgusting I'm literally SHAKING RN!
it seems your labia have tied themselves in a knot.
based and /ourguy/
incels will never recover from this
he could unironically be charged with rape for this
C'mon baby iz only de smells
Color of Night
manipulating someone into sex is now considered rape
>do the needful
Indians at work say this.
Poo in loo.
Sounds like one of those cases where the director really wanted to fuck the female star but couldn't get his way so he did everything he could to get lewds with the excuse of making the movie.