Looks like Avatar isn't feeling so good

looks like Avatar isn't feeling so good

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>not adjusted for inflation
wew

It's not gonna make another 130M

>comparing films from the previous century to the current market
>back when people didn't have tvs and there was only one film running for years

okay

Endgame has already sold more tickets than avatar.

When Avatar grossed $601.1m ( mind you this is 47 days into it's run ), a HUGE 81% were attributed to 3d tickets. 64% for normal 3D and 16% for IMAX 3D.

At the time, the article estimates avatar had sold about 60.7m tickets at that point. Following this, avatar probably ended up at about ~77m tickets sold at the end of it's run

That ladies and gentlemen is a FAR cry from the ~100m( BOM puts it at 97m ) you'd get by just averaging everything over the standard 2d price ( more or less what box office mojo does ).

OK so what about endgame?

We don't know as much unfortunately. What we do know is that in it's OW, Endgame had about 20% of business being 3d ( normal, imax, all included etc ). Tad higher than the avg in 2018 (16%).

So far it's made 785m and BOM estimates it sales at 87m so far ( an accurate enough representation considering endgame's average-ish 3d% ).

Either way, it'll end in the 90m range, selling millions more tickets than avatar did domestically.

how meni days until abatap numbr 2

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We need to fight for Avatar because Avatar is Thanos and Endgame made Thanos a joke. It's time to avenge him by supporting Avengers. You know i'm right

Half of Cameronfags will still be alive when I'm done

If anything the smaller number of screens in 2009 tells you Avatar was more popular than originally thought in comparison to Capeshit.

show your work and proofs

it's gonna be very close actually

abatap on suicide watch

nobody remembers avatar though, it was a passing fad

imagine caring about this

>the mouse is this asshurt it can't beat avatar

AHAHAHAHAHA

>that level of cope

No one remembers Endgame and it's still in theatres

>asking for proof

This is Yea Forums, retard. Shut up and take claims at face value or go back to plebbit.

>Endgame has already sold more tickets than avatar.
That's a lie. We can look at the ticket sales on Box Office Mojo

it started the whole neo-3d phase

the only cope necessary is for those who don't already know Endgame won't beat Titanic lol

Imagine caring about caring about this, cringe and Yikes!

the mouse OWNS avatar now

>b-but inflation
It's amazing how you all can find new ways to be pathetic

it will be 2 million off and marvelfags will be pathetically clamoring for a re-release just to beat the record lmao

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explain why you wouldn't adjust for inflation

Because then Endgame would lose horribly instead of just losing

but they didn't MAKE Avatar

Holy shit you're all nigger jews. Who gives a fuck?

Jim ownes the Avatar rights, Disney only distributes the new movies

It isn't gonna beat it. It will be close and can only beat with a push from Disney, but they have no incentive to do it. Whether Endgame makes 20 million less or 5 million more than Avatar isn't gonna do anything for Disney other than some headlines. It's not like pushing movies to 100 or 200 million domestic so they get TV deals. Besides I guarantee you they will re release Avatar in 2021 before Avatar 2, so even if Endgame were to beat it now, it won't last long.

Just like avatar. What a horrible reply.

how is avatar losing?

>Endgame about to cross Abatap
>It falls just short of it, with fans hoping to scrap the remaining millions over the coming months
>Based Jim send out 1 (one) tweet
>"This Christmas, Avatar will be back at the theatres for 10 years anniversary"
>It crosses unadjusted 3 bn, burying capeshit hopes and dreams forever.

Not really. I accept that Gone With the Wind is at the top instead of looking for excuses why it doesn't count so some forgettable Capeshit can be #1

Jim has no say in the matter. If Avatar gets another release, it's because the Mouse allows it.

Adjusted for inflation avatar isn't the highest grossing movie

>Endgame had about 20% of business being 3d

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any source on any of that pal

>Has to make another 137mil
>Only has another 69mil in it domestically at most
Never gonna make it!

Because you retards have never done it before and will never do it again and are only trying to do it now because you can't accept that you were wrong even though you dipshits literally always are

so what?

you do know GWTW was in theaters for like 3 years during the largest war in human history, right?

0/10 you're just butthurt

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>b-buh you can't adjust for inflation because then Endgame doesn't WIN!
cringe

No. His opening line is a line
>Avatar tickets 97,309,600
>Endgame 87,187,200
The capeshitter is in full cope mode

>china $629M (finished its run)
>overseas-C $1295M - $1300M
>domestic $845M - $850M
>= $2769M - $2779M

So, it's gonna fall $10M or so short of the record

We're not wrong. It's likely not going to beat Avatar unadjusted anyway

not counting inflation kek

Avatar definitely didn't sell 97 million tickets with such a high 3D share. Mojo just uses the average ticket prices to calculate it, which is faulty. It doesn't take into account PLF's, IMAX etc.

provide proofs or fuck off tranny

While I certainly agree with you that it's a line, it's also worth noting that it's a lie as well.

yep, this week it didn't drop too differently than Infinity War (which was competing with Deadpool 2) but now on the weekend it's back on dropping more

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>Avatar threads for years discussing the movie and it's themes
>No Endgame threads while it's still in theaters unless it's for the Box office
Capeshit really is soulless garbage

>Implying Avatar would make 200m if rereleased.
Last time it made 30m and people care even less about it now.

they’re just going to re release Avatar 1 before 2 launches, adding more to its total. Cameron is a genus

>"I-it's gonna be the highest grossing film of all time!"
>22nd when adjusted for inflation
>not even close to the top
Lmao
boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

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Because if you were to adjust for inflation Avatar wouldn't be no.1

No one remembers Marvel shit either.

How long until we get articles that say "adjusting for inflation is racist"?

It was re released in August 2010 right after it ended its first run, and it was 30m domestic, worldwide it was like 80m

see

Reminder that Endgame could have made 3.5 billion if it wasn't forgettable and boring

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why did so many people see this movie? ive never seen it but everyone ive ever asked about said it was “okay”

For the past 3 weeks, Endgame had the same weekend as Infinity War.

Following the same figures, Endgame will end up with $75M at MOST domestically. That puts it $55M less than Avatar. With China's run over, it's incredibly unlikely for Endgame to earn another $55 overseas. It will at most get $25-30M overseas.

This puts Avatar at $2.78B while Endgame will end up at $2.75B to $2.76B. VERY close, but not quite.

Based mouse will just buy a few dozen million $ worth of tickets. Easy task

Avatar will be rereleased before the sequel comes out with James' new 3D where you don't need glasses.

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close enough to fudge the numbers

see Avatar isn't even close

And Avatar was there for like 8 months, so I guess that means we can't compare it to Endgame either then? You people are honestly pathetic with these excuses.

This win will be all the more sweeter when Avatar 2 bombs.

Time doesn't stop for retards like you.

PUFFY

I don't think anyone is claiming avatar is the #1 spot. you're confused.

>8 months
not in my theater

No movie has ever opened as big as Endgame, so these projections aren't very helpful, considering there is nothing like it. It sold more tickets in 5 days than any movie in history, inflation included.

>so popular people wanted to see it for 8 months
kek

Why? They own Avatar too.

Maybe. On endgames opening weekend I saw a lot of nervous Avatar fans talking about inflation adjustment like that wouldn't mean Gone with the wind was numner 1.

>It took Marvel 30 attempts to catch Avatar, the movie that changed cinema forever
Honestly they should be embarrassed.

If China didn't shut Endgame down, it's very likely Endgame would be $15M away. $15M isn't a lot for Endgame to make up, but they have to do it soon. Since it's way too obvious if week 6 grosses $10M and week 7 somehow grosses $25M. Not once has a movie ever made a consecutive week gross higher than a previous week after the first 4 weeks.

If Disney wants to "buy tickets" to inflate the number, they have to do it on Memorial Day and say all the theaters were sold out.

>not adjusted for inflation
Why are Disney moms so pathetic?

I think I've already explained to you the circumstances why GOTW was in theaters for so long. Maybe if WW3 happened Endgame would manage to come within $10 million to Avatar. Adjusted for inflation that is :^)

>Not once has a movie ever made a consecutive week gross higher than a previous week after the first 4 weeks

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>this many people care about capeshit
Fuck sake.

I'm very surprised that the Mouse didn't already start rereleasing MCU films in the run-up to this. I'd guess that a rereleast of Endgame over Christmas would have gained $200m and put a damper on Aquaman.
I don't understand why they haven't been rereleasing linked MCU films before the new ones debut.

And didn't need China's help

It's not about why GOTW made so much money. It's about how avatar fans only bring up inflation adjustment when it's convenient for them .

Surely people have had to watch this shit more than once for this to be making so much money, so my question is WHO THE FUCK WAS ABLE TO SIT THROUGH THIS MORE THAN ONCE?

well they did run every marvel movie in one sitting

>It's about how avatar fans only bring up inflation adjustment when it's convenient for them
How do you know this is even true? Sound like you just really want it to be.

>my kikes are richer than your kikes!

user..

oh sweetie...

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>It will be close and can only beat with a push from Disney, but they have no incentive to do it. Whether Endgame makes 20 million less or 5 million more than Avatar isn't gonna do anything for Disney other than some headlines. It's not like pushing movies to 100 or 200 million domestic so they get TV deals.
It's common knowledge that Disney did some funny business to get Black Panther to $700m domestically. There was a very strange uptick right at the end of the run, trade press commented on how strange it was, and obviously it was Disney doing something.
I don't know if they really give a shit about beating Avatar the way that SJW Disney employees would have cared about getting BP to $700m. But maybe.
Either way, no matter what happens, the eventual inevitable Avengers vs X-Men film circa 2030 will be the biggest film in history.

at least endgame actually happened and the titanic was a fake love story

6 for 6. You buy the ticket. You don't have to go watch it.

How do regular, non-3D ticket prices today compare to 3D tickets in 2009?

If Avatar's gross was mostly 3D, Endgame was mostly 2D, and you account for the price difference, Endgame may have sold more tickets than Avatar

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It would make sense they would want their newest film to be number 1. If you have both 1. and 2. under your company, its better that the one built up with 22 movies beats the 10 year old stand alone movie, breaking the record and generating more clout

You fucking KNOW Reddit is going to have peope buy multiple ticket one Endgame is $20M behind Avatar at the end of its run.

$20,000,000, $10 tickets. Just get 200,000 people to buy 10 tickets each. Simple.

Underrated comment.

>avatarfags are so desperate that the only recourse they have left is spamming the muh inflation meme

Threre are so many entertainment options nowadays. Movies will never sell as much tickets anymore due to that.

>he's pretending inflation counts but no other variables do
OH NO NO

Note how Endgame gave Captain Marvel a small bump, raising it back up to #2 that weekend.

If Endgame is still in theaters when Spider-Man: Far From Home opens, the first week in July, Endgame could get a similar bump, pushing it over the finish line

You're a fucking idiot. That just proves his point.

>It's common knowledge that Disney did some funny business to get Black Panther to $700m domestically
Do retards on Yea Forums genuinely think this way or are you shitposting

>NOOOOOO, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SOCIO-ECONOMIC FACTORS GOING INTO THE CURRENT YEAR AND ADJUST FOR DIVERSITY!

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What were the stats for the number of movie theater screens in 2009? Like 1/6th the screen we have now? That's not even including the chink market.

>every Marvel movie is high 90% on RT
I mean is it just coincidence or classic Disney tomfoolery?

they should have released it in 3D

>3D inflated prices are "diversity" to the incel mind

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it's time to stop phone posting, incel

Irrelevant, Its made up for by the more expensive 3D ticket sales and Avatar being in cinema for like a year

Marvel is like Chick-fil-A, a well run and wholesome fast food option. The only people who rate it poorly are retards in denial about what they're getting

Have sex :}

>3D ticket sales and Avatar being in cinema for like a year
do you actually believe this? Avatar wasn't in every theater for a year, and even if it was it just shows how popular the movie was

Avatar had a cheaper production cost and marketing budget. Endshit is 240 millions behind in the profits race, even before inflation. It's never going to make it.

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>user uses headcanon to cope when reality hurts his feelings

seek help, seriously

>Avatar rerealeses multiple times after a lengthy run
>"t-that's enough time, endgame, a m-month is a-all you get."

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>doesn't want to say why it was re-released for a limited time
heh

well that's not true.
9 out of 22 have 90% or over
6 are in the 80's
5 are in the 70's
2 are in the 60's

>still couldn't win with 2 billion chink insectoids

Cameron shilled the theaters to get that cume, user. Endgame didn't even bother and won't need to

Go look at Avatar's chart. More people went to watch it a week after its release than it did on opening weekend, and they continued to go see it for months. Endgame dropped 75% in a week, like a turd.

Endgame was betting on the Chinese and still lost. The absolute state of spandexfags

Stop shitposting

avatar was in theaters for like 6 months because of the 3D gimmick and Titanic had like 3 re-releaes, fucktard

>NOOOOO IT DOESN'T COUNT!

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Why was it in theaters for so long? It's almost like those two movies captivated the world.

China served its purpose. We're in the endgame now, and no amount of screaming or sharting will save you

>Avatar: less screens, no Chinese market = huge hit
>Endgame: more screens, barely any rewatches, Chinese market that barely helped

Better luck next extended universe. Maybe nu-MCU will finally do it!

>We're in the endgame now, and no amount of screaming or sharting will save you
Well it's not even going to beat Star Wars, so I don't know why you're saying this. Cringe tbph

Fox (now Disney) owns the rights to Avatar and Terminator. Jim owns the rights to Alita, thankfully.

>just ignore the relative OW sizes and the fact that many people went to avoid spoilers, whereas Avatar has no real plot worth spoiling

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i wanna muff dive this bitch so bad, if you can infer the meaning of what i'm getting at.

If endgame beats avatar i'll laugh at avatarfags
if avatar remains #1 i'll laugh at marvelfags
either way I win. playing both sides always pays off

>Endgame only has a month lmao it couldn't possibly keep going in summer
Yikes
It already beat SW, I'm sorry you couldn't double count all the domestic numale votes that inflated TFA and the five years of rerereleases for ANH won't be enough in the end

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>playing both sides always pays off

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>It already beat SW
sweetie... it's $400,000,000 away from it

It's not even in the top 20

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Is "muh inflation" the avatarfag's last, pre-suicide call for help?

>Endgame only has a month lmao it couldn't possibly keep going in summer
it's already dead, just let it go and try again next year.

explain how it followed the middle of the projections until 3rd week then

I guess "inflation is cheating" is the last, desperate stand of the nu-male?

See Unbelievable cope

Yes. They are very proud of being numner 15 on this

>stop adjusting f-for inflation that's cheating!
holy fuck, this is autism right here

disney is finished
based

Translation: "H-HELP MEEEEEE, THE XANAX IS WEARING OFF AND ENDGAME IS STILL RISING!"

>STOP ADJUSTING FOR INFLATION STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT

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Hahaha you sir is the Alpha of Mental illness

>only domestic
Please read your own charts before posting.

Le goalposts

I only do that on holohoax infographics not on this one bucko

>inflation is a goalpost
ebin lad

someone update this

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They should be ranked by number of tickets sold.

Yes please

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inflation?

>NOOOOO THESE NUMBERS DONT COUNT, INFLATION IS KING BUT ALSO IGNORE 3D PRICING AND RERELEASES

So, just to confirm, Endgame is still over 100m behind Avatar? And it's had its 3rd weekend? And a bunch of blockbusters are set to release? And John Wick 3 has already started dominating?
Okay...

It's literally the most numerical goalpost in human civilization, kill yourself for understanding so little

>PAY ATTENTION TO 3D PRICING THE LIMITED RE-RELEASES NOT THE DEVALUING OF CURRENCY. MY ARGUMENT DOESN'T WORK IF YOU DO THAT

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>Mammario in 3d
I never knew how much I needed this

>more people bought cheaper tickets
isn't that just the inflation argument? at which point, older movies like Gone with the Wind blow both of them out of the water.

So I take it you won't make this argument when Avatar 7 makes 100 billion on the first day?

>Yea Forums still doesn't understand what RT even is
It's been almost a decade, how do you retards still get confused?

because there were no other good movies at the time that year

prove it

>the 3rd weekend is the endpoint
user.....

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Cope.

Yes. Aladdin this weekend, then Godzilla, then Dark Phoenix. I don't even know why people are talking about inflation, Endgame won't beat Avatar unadjusted either lel

Avatarbros... I don't feel so good...

Implying Avengers 9 doesn't make 10 trillion Thursday night

Imagine complaining about this flick or that flick and how much money they make. It's not even a discussion.

>being this underage
Don't you have homework to do kid?

In July 2010, Cameron confirmed that there would be an extended theatrical re-release of the film on August 27, 2010, exclusively in 3D theaters and IMAX 3D.[276] Avatar: Special Edition includes an additional nine minutes of footage, all of which is CG,[277] including an extension of the sex scene[278] and various other scenes that were cut from the original theatrical film.[277] This extended re-release resulted in the film's run time approaching the current IMAX platter maximum of 170 minutes, thereby leaving less time for the end credits. Cameron stated that the nine minutes of added scenes cost more than $1 million a minute to produce and finish.[4] During its 12-week re-release, Avatar: Special Edition grossed an additional $10.74 million in North America and $22.46 million overseas for a worldwide total of $33.2 million.[5]

Avatar made any money, that's the proof

>Don't you have homework to do kid?

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Can't wait for $1000 popcorn with an additional $50 butter charge

it's called legs delusional capeshiter
Avatar is making more than 2x as much as Endgame daily at the same point after the release, and it gets worst and worst

>changing goal posts
Wew

You retards have the same three to four responses. Can you think for yourself?
>Muh soi soi soi
The other user is right, you must be underage.

>I can't draw an X
how retarded are you capeshiter?

ITS OVER AVAKEKS
I AM INEVITABLE

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Can we adjust for how many more tickets would have been sold if Internet piracy didn't exist like in 1997? Endgame would have taken the record already.

>You retards have the same three to four responses. Can you think for yourself?

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>debate is about how much money something made
>can't bring up the value of money for some reason

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>including an extension of the sex scene
Based Jim

right because if all those millions of people didn't watch that glorious "HDCAM" Endgame would have made 10 billion at this point

here it is

Endgame doesn't need legs, it just needs six to seven weeks

>Avatar threads for years discussing the movie and it's themes
things that never happened for 5 dollars

>Marvel
>themes
I guess uh... friendship is a theme?

>can't comprehend the value of a currency changes over time so comparing it makes 0 sense

people also ignore how much streaming has changed movie going. I used go watch movies every week at the local theater, but now I might not go for months because there's shitload of stuff I can watch at home

But user, that one autistic child keeps posting pictures of Neytiri, capeshitters presumably BTFO

>if it wasn't for that damned interweb

>domestic
nobody cares anymore mutt

According to capeshitters
>bringing up streaming as to why Endgame didn't make as much as Avatar
fine!
>bring up the changing value of currency
STOP IT

So what you are saying is that we make good movies nowadays?

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Endgame will gross more $ than Avatar unadjusted. If we bring up inflation, we have to bring up everything else too

of course it makes sense, due to inflation there is a natural cut-off that makes old movies, which you can't really compare due to a different market, drop off

but I guess you have too much of a smol brain

>we have to bring up everything else too
and what's wrong with that exactly? that's what we're doing by adjusting for inflation like any sensible person would do when comparing ticket sales 10 years apart.

It's actually ran out of gas and won't pass Avatar, which is hilarious.

don't lie to me satan
So I did some numbers because i was curious.
Gone with the wind's original theatrical run was in december 1939, before America was formally in WW2. It grossed $945,000 in it's first 2 days. At the average price of a ticket , $0.25, that means it sold 3,780,000 tickets in 2 days right? Wrong it was only shown at the premier and at road shows at a cost of $1. That was the equivalent of an imax ticket today as that $1 has about the purchasing power of $18.25 today. So in 2 days it sold 945,000 tickets, in about 100 locations. That is over 9000 tickets per location in 2 days. That is insane.

In 2009 Avatar made $52,281,135 in its first 2 days. The average ticket price for a film in 2009 was $7.50. This means that using the Average ticket price, which allows for the maximum amount to be estimated (despite knowing that there was a significant portion of 3D sales for these numbers) that avatar sold at best around 6,970,818 tickets in 2 days. This was with a release in 3,452 theatres. Which is around 2020 tickets per theatre in 2 days.
To address the
>muh inflation
$1 in 2009 is the equivalent to a massive $1.18 today. a massive 18% increase.... so honestly the straight across comparison with endgames gross, while not accurate, is actually more fair than titanic or gone with the wind.

and finally Avengers: Endgame made $266,725,763 in its first two days. Average ticket prices now are about $9.00 each. This means in 2 days avengers sold 29,636,195 tickets. This was in 4,662 theatres. This corresponds to around 6350 tickets per theatre.

All i'm trying to demonstrate is that while avatar may have made more money, It was likely seen by less people, and will have less of a cultural impact than avengers or Gone with the wind.
Mock me all you want Yea Forums but you will admit that the marvel films have had a cultural impact over the last 10 years. For better or for worse, they have changed the landscape of film.

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is this a real post? alright, since you bring up different markets, 2019 compared to 2009 has:
a hell of a lot more screens in more theaters
less competition
Asian markets

nice job, dipshit.

>18% increase
that's actually significant

Wait, how the fuck is Avatar still nr.1, how did it even reach nr.1.
Nobody cares about that movie

In 10 years some teen is gonna ask how anyone gave a fuck about these awful Disney capeshit flicks.

You moron, I'm saying if we bring up everything then Avatar's gay multiple releases and endless theater shoehorning detracts from its actual impact. Besides, I'm confused as to why Avatarcucks can't possibly imagine Endgame rereleasing; but it's irrelevant. Either you accept when Endgame beats Avatar's total, or you cry and whinge about inflation until the eventual rereleases and the mountain of counterfactual evidence BTFOs you

Dude stop typing so much crap fucking loser lmao

You understand that Avatar's opening weekend wasn't spectacular right? What was unprecedented was it actually going up in the following one.
> will have less of a cultural impact than avengers or Gone with the wind
Does Gone with the Wind really have much of a cultural impact?

I'm confused as to why you fags won't even begin to think about why based Cameron had two gigantic block busters that people wanted to see for such a long time. Weird. Endgame steam has ran out, people are bored of it. It's over.

nobody remembers any marvel shit either. its all one giant blur. if you were to show me a random scene from IW/Endgame I probably wouldnt be able to tell you which movie it was from

exactly. there is a difference, and the 18% inflation in ticket price will slowly become greater and remove it from competition. And don't pretend like 2019 does not also have drawbacks like the rise of streaming.

>if it wasn't forgettable and boring
Avatar was forgettable and boring. Endgame has too much competition.

You are just proving my point.

Why do capeshitters pretend they never liked Whedon?

>DON'T BRING UP INFLATION
>muh streaming
I hope you weren't the one crying about goalposts, because that's an actual example of moving goalposts. Don't pretend 2009 had an Asian market or less screens.

scary

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>a massive 18% increase....
i sincerely don't know if this is sarcasm or if you're trying to act like 18% is some insignificant number

I wanna beat up mousefags more than I wanna beat up vegans. They're both massive globohomos.

Post script

I truly respect James Cameron as a filmmaker. He did wonderful things with Avatar, and I did enjoy the film. It ushered in a new age of visual effects, and proved the viability of a 3D film if it was made from the ground up to be 3D, rather than the faux 3D that is added in post (I'm looking at you Clash of the Titans).
I do feel that the Avengers films, and specifically Infinity War and Endgame also proved something. That an ensemble cast film with a VAST number of characters can be integrated into film without being a muddled mess. By creating what was a shared story told by multiple directors, and integrated as well as they were to each other, this also changed how films are made. While others are attempting this integration (The DC Cinematic Universe, The Universal Monsters Cinematic Universe for example) they have yet to recreate the success that these films have garnered. This MCU is a version of storytelling that has existed in mankind's heritage for a long time. The Myths and legends of heroes have been told and retold, with additions added each retelling, with others integrating their stories together (such as the story of the Troy and its Heroes of Odysseus, Achilles, Ajax, Hector, and Paris among many others). We are seeing a new way to enjoy film. Not just a story of a few characters that continues in sequels, but of a living universe filled with characters, who can all have their own time to shine.

TL:DR im a brainlet and like film, avatar and Avengers are both fine.

>That an ensemble cast film with a VAST number of characters can be integrated into film without being a muddled mess
did we watch the same Endgame?

>Does Gone with the Wind really have much of a cultural impact?
yes. It shaped film for decades afterwards.

>domestic

>theaters
>ticket Prices
>tickets per theater
Those theater numbers are for the US only retard
More theaters exist, so no avengers didnt sell 6000 tickets per theater, because that gross is worldwide.

Avatar made nearly 2 billion dollars in the international market fuckhead
where do you think that money came from? South America? Africa? because is sure as shit wasn't Europe. Russia was the highest income from a "European" market for the film despite Russia being technically in Asia, and it was only 120 million.

I'm saying the international market wasn't like it was today, coupled with the insanely small amount of theaters and screens in 2009.

>reading comprehension
the following sentence spells out that 18% is noticable but not the massive
>INFLATION COUNTS REEEEEEE
that avatarfags claim.

That chart is outdated. The x lines represent 25 days. Avengers, TDK and Ultron were already practically horizontal by now.

>18%
>not massive
this is pure, unadulterated retardation

>Top sales amounts from avatar outside us are litterally China Korea and Japan
>INSANELY SMALL AMOUNT OF THEATERS
>implying that 1 gorillian movie theaters and screens have been built since 2009

>Endgame beats Avatar
>Avatar loses
>”OH YEAH WELL B-BUT MUH INFLATION”
>Avatar still loses with inflation
Avatards are SCARED. They will have NO WORLDWIDE BOX OFFICE RECORDS soon.

>implying that 1 gorillian movie theaters and screens have been built since 2009
There has been an increase of six times the amount of screens in the US alone since 2009.

Lmfao these replies

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China*

MARVEL CHADS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT
EVERYBODY JUST HAVE A GOOD TIME

>18%
>not massive
>Literally explained the 1,825% increase from gone with the wind. in the same post
when the standard is a hundred times higher 18% isn't really massive

You really are a fucking idiot.

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>doesnt understand what an order of magnitude is
HURR DURR ANY NUMBER BIGGER MEANS SO MUCH BIG

>that autist who constantly spams the same reddit images over and over again

How can ONE capeshit make people seethe this much?

MARVEL KEKS IN THE SHED TONIGHT

*CHA-CHINGS IN GOT THEME*

People killed themselves over Avatar not being real. This is how much of a sensation it was. Marvelfags can only hope an Iron Man figure kills a couple of kids with either lead paint or small pieces.

>Please read your own charts before posting.
Nobody gives a shit about third world returns

OH NO NO NO NO

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>inflated 3D counts
>actual inflation doesn't
Ooffff

how can people not understand english? Is meme true? is Yea Forums actually full of pajeets?

>muh inflation
>$1 in 2009 is the equivalent to a massive $1.18 today. a massive 18% increase.... so honestly the straight across comparison with endgames gross, while not accurate, is actually more fair than titanic or gone with the wind.

This is explaining how the 18% increase is significant, but should not be touted like the difference between 1 and 20. It does matter, but if avengers made the same amount as avatar with avatar having more higher priced 3d sales AND a re-release, it demonstrates that avengers has sold more tickets. Also your
>imply 18% doesnt matter
is a double edged sword that proves that the rerelease is much more important for avatars total gross. about18% more important

>endgame
>spoilers
Let me guess : the good guys won

>degenerates kill themselves over avatar
>degenerates don't kill themselves over avengers

well im convinced please make more avatar films.

Why rerelease endgame ? It's awful with zero fans
It would lose money

tony stark wears infinity iron man hand with the super rocks because they had to retcon Tyrion making the special gauntlet for whatever reason

ouch

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my sides

If Endgame doesn't beat Avatar, there's sort of an upside, isn't there? Provides an incentive for Disney to release higher quality MCU and Star Wars movies in the future, if they want another shot at it.

The Last Jedi could have grossed $2 billion+ and been a contender for highest gross ever, if it was actually good. Instead it had a near-record-breaking opening and then immediately tanked.

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NO NO NO NO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

>this is what brand loyalty does to zoomers

what went wrong

Disney doesn't make movies to break records, they make movies to make money

>only US and Canada matters

oof

Well in a way it's true.

Actually would prefer Disney stop making Star Wars movies entirely, give the rights to someone else, but that's not happening

It took them 22 movies to beat the first Avatar.
Imagine how much Avatar 5 is going to make

do you not understand what RT ratings mean?

of course most of marvel movies will do well, its a percentage of how many critics rated it positively ( and obviously people who write capeshit critics arent gonna go "oh this movie is just capeshit"), and many of marvel movies are decent for what they are, hence high RT ratings

Why isn't Birth of a Nation 1915 on any of these adjusted for inflations lists? it grossed between 50 and 100 million which adjusted for inflation is 1.2-2.5 billion dollars

More like they did 22 movies with none of the bombing or people getting tired and the boxoffice dwindling. I doubt avatar 2 is going to do as good as avatar 1 and so on. One hit wonders happen all the time, 22 movie series - literally never, this is the first.

ouch what? Endgame didn't blow it's load early on a huge domestic audience and had more legs. it's currently over half a billion dollars ahead of TFA. and they're by the same fucking studio either way and not competing with each other. The Mouse Always Wins.

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If you adjust for inflation then Avatar isn't even in the top 10, autismo.

user, I'll give it to you this way:
To take things for granted is to be a child.
To adjust things to inflation is to be an adult.

Because you're not supposed to remember who D.W. Griffith is

so what?

Lol mousefag

Yea Forums really is Brainlet's Delight, isn't it? TFA had the highest domestic run of any movie. Comparing 50% of TFA to 30% of Endgame just highlights Marvel's true power level, but you're clearly too far gone to comprehend that

So the inflation argument in this context is fucking retarded.

should we also control for time spent in theaters? or total ticket sales not counting dollar amounts at all? leave Endgame in theaters for four fucking years and I'm sure it'll break the all time "inflation" record as well.

NO NO STOP IT MR CAMERON PLEASEEE

wtf happened between 1977 and 82?
SW and ET had an un-adjusted difference of just $25m but adjusted its more than $300m

>Internet piracy didn't exist like in 1997
>thinking piracy significantly hurts sales
oh you poor naive zoomer

Surely a billion thirdworlders can’t be wrong.

probably it has to do more that Disney is now the owner of Avatar, even if Endgames reach the first spot Disney will re-release Avatar 1 on Cinemas to people to get On Date with the new sequels.

I don't see a lot of movies and don't by any video games/software/music precisely because piracy exists.

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How?

Because of what this thread is about, you fucking mong.

>avatar
>star wars
>marvel
>all owned by the mouse
>retards choosing sides and arguing over which is better
this is literally "I don't care who wins the presidency as long as I get to choose the candidates" on Disney's part.

The thread is about Endgame beating Avatar in the box office when the opposite is true.

It took 11 years (more if you count the years of work that led to Iron Man and the MCU as a whole), 22 movies, and an entire army of fans for Endgame to come CLOSE to dethroning Avatar.

That says more about the latter than the former.

Are you actually retarded?

Are you?

>It took them 22 movies to beat the first Avatar.
But they still haven't beaten it?

In the end Endgame will always be, a big heaping pile of number 2...

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shut the fuck up faggot

cope

you fags are just crying about inflation, meanwhile Endgame already passed Avatar

And Endgame is lower. What's your point?

>after a century of comics consisting characters that were based on ancient deities from ancient stories that spanned over a millennia ago
>after generation after generation of vidya, retcon, fan service, and all other kinds of marketing
>after billions upon billions of dollars spent on over 22 movies over the past decade
>after all the effort humanity put in leading up to this finale
>imagine... just imagine... it doesn't do it
>just imagine, that standalone film FROM said decade ago that began that cinematic challenge remains at the top
>imagine it doesn't break that 3 billion and become the top grossed movie in human history
>imagine, after ALL that, it STILL doesn't come out on top
just... imagine

oh wait

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Inflation is only based on the dollar. If you want to do it correct, you need the adjusted inflation for every country it came out, which it just does not take into account. Inflation is the biggest fucking meme ever made

>the delusion is full blown

haha, okay #2

What if you never bought a ticket? Would those gross numbers be different?

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You do know international box offices are counted in USD, right?

Chick Fil-A is actually good though

>still in theaters
>only 130mil behind after only 1 month released
>copevatar had theatrical re-releases over the course of a full year to hit its number
lol

delusional avatar copers on suicide watch

>there are people on Yea Forums who unironically cheer for some shitty disney movie about jews with super powers
The absolute state of this fucking board. I wish comic shit was sent back to Yea Forums where it belongs.

The idiotic moron is you!

Lol endcope

It’s all part of shot posting

Cope, stormfag.

>"x movie isnt gonna make more money that y movie haha"
>x movie is making more money
>" um uu-u-ummm INFLATIONN HELPPP!?!?!
Pathetic

>x movie is making more devalued money
fixed that for you, sweetheart :)

>If Endgame is still in theaters when Spider-Man: Far From Home opens
It wont be. It's down to 3 showings a day in my country.

>thread about avengers and avatar
>"uhhr me no talking about avtarr yu confused"""
Go and kill yourself retard, get a gun and blow your fucking brains out and hope that rats eat you all and only leave your bones that no one will bother to mourn

>Crying about 3D tickets when Endgame had the benefit of China which has had rapid growth over the last 10 years
These are some shit excuses

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I never said nobody is talking about you retard.

I had 3 tvs and 2 computers when I went to see avatar you absolute ninny and so did everyone else