Best ASOIAF characters not included in the show cont

What's your favourite dragon design, bros? For me, it's pic related, especially Viserion (the white-gold on in the top left). It actually looks like a fucking animal with limited sentience that would have animalistic behaviour.

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Preton pretty much nailed it, he's trying to awaken Aeron's gift and raise krakens
Definitely a bad guy going forward, he mentions wanting the long night

There's not much to theorize. His plan is to literally ascend to godhood. He's worked out that the power of king's blood comes from the simple fact that those individuals are worshipped, hence why he's been capturing priests of every religion he can and attempting to make them willingly worship him.

The Ironborn and Lyseni are the best peoples in Planetos. Drowned God and R'hllor best gods.

Euron better turn into Cthulu and tentacle rape that dragon bitch into submission.

youtube.com/watch?v=IFZR6oF3Ep8

This

post YFW you realised Northmen are just snowniggers and Eddard is only honourable because he was fostered by Jon Arryn

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Sheepstealer or Sunfyre.
As for favorite dragon overall, Either Ceraxes the Bloodwrym, or Cannibal

Easier done with animation when it comes to all the visual stuff. If they get a talented enough voice actor, that means they can do multiple roles too. All the magic shit and really surreal dreams will probably work much, much better in animation too.

Stannis, obviously.

Fucking the Queen

Make it exactly like LoGH. Even the comfy 80's anime animation and coloring.

Took you that long to realize it? Northerners are fucking savages.

Oh, alright. I mean actual designs. I tend to dislike a lot of the dragon designs. They look like they'd start speaking like Smaug. The Viserion design on the calender or pic related are ones I like. They come across as actual animals with limited sentience.

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based

None of the characters are properly adapted to begin with. Save maybe the ones that got killed off early in the series.

>look up 'asoiaf animated'
>all a bunch of weeb, Warhammer-esque, or hyper cartoony pile of dogshit
Yeah, I'm think I want an animated series only if like in that pic.

Yes, and I like the designs of Sunfyre and Sheepstealer

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Pics?

Leyton "The Cyvassemaester" Hightower

What POV has the biggest mysteries to you and why is it samwell

honestly im so excited to see the inner-workings of the citadel and see what shady shit theyre up to

Aeron Damphair and Victarion.

Seriously what the fuck is that molten hand Vic now has

>inb4 it turns out its just a bunch of old guys trying to breed a superior raven.

At least they're free from the eternal (((maester))) now

It's glamoured. It's still fucked up

For fun, name all the one handed characters in asoiaf

Them, and sarella, and the faceless men - so much we don't know, I can't wait desu

>inb4 they run an underground human trafficking ring for boy whores.
>they're worse than the Lyseni

why is sarella so mysterious?

Quentyn, Areo Hotah, Aeron

Not her, but what maryn and oberyn and doran have planned

Doesn't it have extra strength now though?
Wouldn't be surprised, Isn't Jon's boytoy from Oldtown? And Whoresbane got his name from killing some boy whores in Oldtown

Quentyn is dead my nigga
He got fried

Well the guy who got Rickard Stark involved in the Hoster/ Jon Arryn scheme was a bastard son of an ArchMaester and a whore, so maybe.

>never ever

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yeah Satin is from old town
holy we fuck we have a theory here boys, the citadel is just a euphemism for the catholic church

Fuck I just want to see Jon and his Wildling bros fucking up Kneelers while Val cheers him on.

i just wanna see jon take val for his gf until he has to marry dany

in fire and blood a girl targ is taking by Balerion to Valyria and comes back cooking from the inside as giant fire worms come crawling out of every orifice

Then why would his friend need to keep a sword on him ? He's alive bro

i also want that warg who has a giant pig to fuck up the kneelers

Not looking forward to the Jon/Dany thing in the books. I find her so dull compared to ever other character.

because Barristan saw him die, he describes him as super fucked up then he doesnt wake up. not every character who "dies" is secretly alive

She obvs tried to fuck a dragon user. Solved.

I think GRRM will make it work

He sees someone with no face die. Also Arch and drink aren't telling the truth.

Balerion also has big slashes and cuts in his skin, so that means there is some big dangerous motherfuckers there, possibly other dragons

>The Dornish prince was three days dying.
Barristan knew he was Quentyn.
He's dead.

Targs are crazy motherfuckers when it comes to dragons, even egg couldn't escape the madness

Quentyn's body is described as horrible burned beyond recognition. It's entirely possible it wasn't him and Barristan wouldn't have known.

Belwas

We'll see. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up leaving Westros rather than claiming the throne in the end.

The body he thinks is the dornish promce is three days dying

You do realize barristan is wrong about literally everything and everyone in mareen, user?

He wasn't wrong about this

[Barristan] said. “Throw down your steel and stand aside, and no harm need come to you.”

Khrazz laughed. “Old man. I will eat your heart.” The two men were of a height, but Khrazz was two stone heavier and forty years younger, with pale skin, dead eyes, and a crest of bristly red-black hair that ran from his brow to the base of his neck.

“Then come,” said Barristan the Bold. Khrazz came.

For the first time all day, Selmy felt certain. This is what I was made for, he thought. The dance, the sweet steel song, a sword in my hand and a foe before me.

Hizdar was totally innocent, he never lied, and he certainly didn't poison the locusts. Barristan has been played by skahazz, Arch and drink, the windblown, the green grace, everybody. Hell, they even got you, apparently.

Hizdahr is 100% the harpy of a lieutenant of the harpy

>Rhaegar
>Darkstar
>Valyrians in general
>Euron

Asoiaf is already anime as fuck

The son's of the harpy were made up by skahazz. All the killings were retribution for slights by Dany, or killings of those who killed first. Mareen believes in death for a death. There is no sons of the harpy, until the second iteration after hizdahr is captured.

>how to not understand ASOIAF, a thread

>how to post in a thread without contributing, a post

Don't be mad you can't read between the lines.
I bet you think the horn of jorumun makes the wall fall down lol

>This is what I was made for, he thought.
>Based

>make him hand
>immediately forget about his book storyline

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>how to not have sex, a post

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>According to Archmaester Gyldayn, Sunfyre was the most beautiful dragon ever seen upon the earth.[2] Sunfyre had gleaming gold scales, which shone like beaten gold in the sunlight, and pale pink wing membranes

Didn't Euron have the Horn

He has a horn, so did mance. I think Sam has the horn of jorumun, in oldtown.

So like Viserion?
>The majority of Viserion's scales are cream, but his horns, wing bones and spinal crest are gold colored. His teeth are shining black daggers. His claws are black and sharp. His eyes are two pools of molten gold and his flame is pale gold shot through with red and orange. Viserion has a roar that would send a hundred lions running. Although his true color is cream. he is often referred to as the white dragon. He knows his name. Whisps of smoke emit from his nostrils. When wounded his blood glows gold and red.

So what are your predictions for upcomin 4 battles Yea Forums?
Battle of Ice-Stannis BTFOs Freys and Boltons hard via nightlamp
Battle of Fire-Seemingly total victory for Barristan and Victarion, turns into next Field of Fire with dragons going apeshit
Battle of Steel-Golden Company takes Storms end, dont really know how since its supposedly really fucking hard to take. Maybe suprise or treason
Battle of Blood-wildcard, could be anything from summoning kraken with mass blood sacriface or kickstarting the Long Night

aurane waters

What’s the point? We already know all of the major things that will happen in the story.

Ice - after nightlamp, he goes to winterfell
Theon knows winterfell, and bran knows hidden passages that head straight to the gate unseen

Fire- quentyn appears on a dragon

Steel - total psyop, maybe some inrigue with Arianne

Blood- god, I can't wait.

>The things ... Mother have mercy, I do not know how to speak of them ... they were ... worms with faces ... snakes with hands ... twisting, slimy, unspeakable things that seemed to writhe and pulse and squirm as they came bursting from her flesh. Some were no biger than my little finger, but one at least was as long as my arm ... oh, Warrior protect me, the sounds they made ....

What were they Yea Forums ?

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I predict:
>Ice- Stannis wins, but dies in the process. The following chaos leads to Shireens death, only ends with Jon or Sansas arrival
>Fire- and Flames. Vic lets the Horn blow and Viserion burns him alive, flying of towards Euron
>Steel-Open the Gates
>Blood- seems like a fair fight until it ends with kraken or dragon ex machina

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will aeron be the POV for blood?

>" Bran knew about that. And he knew you could get inside the inner wall by the south gate, climb three floors and run all the way around Winterfell through a narrow tunnel in the stone, and then come out on ground level at the north gate, with a hundred feet of wall looming over you. Even Maester Luwin didn't know that, Bran was convinced."

Firewyrms.
>Some say they are akin to dragons, for wyrms breathe fire too. Instead of soaring through the sky, they bore through stone and soil. If the old tales can be believed, there were wyrms amongst the Fourteen Flames even before the dragons came. The young ones are no larger than that skinny arm of yours, but they can grow to monstrous size and have no love for men." Arya II AFFC

Maybe Sam as well, multiple POVs for each battle

Fire
Tyrion, barristan, Vic, quentyn, Dany maybe

Ice- theon, asha

Blood - aeron, Sam

Steel - joncon, arianne

It’s the only way we can get a faithful adaptation

Killing selmy early. Marwyn. fAegon. Patch face & strong belwas.

3ER is using euron to bring bran a dragon

I picture them as those worm things from King Kong but with rock-like volcanic skin and shoot fire from their mouths.

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>Maybe Sam as well,
Can't wait for Fatwell Tarly to end up besides Aeron

Storm's End is being besieged by Reach soldiers, so the common theory is that they'll wreck the Reach forces with a Baratheon banner, be let in, and then taken over from within.

If animated like in the pic I posted, it could probably be more visually beautiful as well. Winterfell becomes this massive, almost fairy tale like winter castle instead of a muddy stone ghetto

Which book do I buy with the cool stories?

Is it Fire and Blood or The World of Ice and Fire?

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As well as an accurate Iron Throne

The targ stuff, fuck Elio garcia

TWOIAF no doubt

TFW acorn dress

The targ shit is copy and pasted from TWOIAF brainlet

>harnesses on the dragons
B-but D&D promised I just had to grab onto anything to not fall off...

>The World of Ice and Fire?
I really liked that one
Breathed life into the world

What?

Twoiaf is a fucking coffee table book, the rogue prince, fie and blood, tpatq are much better.

Also, fuck elio

So what's in Fire and Blood not in TWOIAF?

Only the biggest gendryxarya shipping scene

fAegon is a Gary Stu. Him taking Storms End will be completely contrived

>fAegon is a Gary Stu
great analysis, user

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Those nerds on westeros.org are prophets.

I don't see why Dany can't just marry Aegon when she gets to Westeros, it's what Aegon's original plan was anyway.

Anyone here know that Danny is the fake Targ? Or is it just me

Probably because Aegon will already marry either Arianne or Margaery for political reasons. And I don't think Dany will ever buy into Aegon being real.

Well, she does have dayne eye color, weirdly.

He survived. What a boss.

Fire and blood is a lot better.

I have both and Fire and blood is the size of an actual book while world of ice and fire is more like a picture book

Impossible, Viserys and Darry were there when she was born and neither have any reason to lie. Not to mention it was well known the Queen was pregnant, it would be pretty difficult to swap out an infant the exact same age Dany should be that also had Targ features.

That's not Willem darry lol

A man at arms with soft af hands?

Wait, Quentyn survived being burned? Didn't it say all of him was burning?

that's more likely george just making an error than some conspiracy

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No reason to lie? She’s the reason Varys and Illyio sell her to Drogo. They certainly were tricking Viserys while grooming Aegon. Look st the timeline of Danny’s birth. I have a feeling she will learn the red door she knew growing up is in Dorne. My pet theory is Marwyn fostered her upbringing

So what did it mean by all of him was burning, just his whip hand?

It should be noted that whilst she forgets the name of the girl Drogon killed she still remembers the name of the girl those Dothraki raped and murdered which made her furious and vengeful. I thought that was a good, subtle way of showing who Dany is heart.

>Preston Jacobs

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>preshit
Peak reddit

he's /ourguy/

Why? Cause he has yellow fever like half of the autists here?

>phone posting
>calling PJ "peak reddit"
have sex dude

The fact he can even see is proof he wasn't lit up by a dragon

yes

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god i just want him to finish the TWOW and give me some fucking closure

>phoneposting
Proof that you and him are both redditards.
Go back to your Rhaegar fanclub

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>TWOW
>closure

But user, you'll have to wait for ADOS for that :^)

>implying Rhaegar wasn’t prophesy obsessed, didn’t name his son Jon after his pal JC and met RB on the trident to die to send his son to the wall to defeat the coming threat from the Others

>quentyn
Preston plz go and stay go

There would not have been war if Aerys didn't kill a bunch of nobles on no solid grounds without a fair trial and then demanding Arryn turn over his innocent wards. It would have been a tremendous scandal and heavily damaged House Targaryen's reputation and standing but that's all if Aerys never sperged out.

Also, do we know anything about the prophecy Rhaegar is obsessed with? Or what the song of ice and fire even is?

thats a bridge ill cross when i come to it

the prophecy was the prince that was promised one

yes

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Bran-Ice
Danny- Fire
Jon- ice&fire

I know. He says in one of Dany's vision he's the prince who was promised whose song is ice and fire. Do we know what any of that actually means or are we still waiting on details? The series is over 20 years old and we still have no idea what the overall title, ASoIaF, even really means.

What's fucking hilarious is the only other time in the series we've seen what took place at the finale in the dragon pit was on the Iron Islands. And how did that turn out? They did the exact same thing. They didn't really establish democracy. Just now the King of Westeros is elected through a Kings Moot.

And what happened then? The first words out of the newly appointed Kings mouth were 'Where are my niece and nephew? let's go murder them'.

The Sneed is strong.

I like that artwork but it definitely would not be my preference for the style of an animated series.

>The others are noticeably absent from her visions

I thought she saw some winter shit going down on the trident with dragon fire?

>his pal JC
I have a feeling that jon and Rhaegar being 'pals' is all in joncon's head because he's literally a beta orbiter who wanted that targ cock

Ah, the show Kingsmoot. Twenty faggots in leather standing around giving shitty speeches with the eventually winner straight up announcing he's a kinslaying bastard.

Biggest vision I have to wonder about is the last ACoK chapter when Bran is warged in Summer in post-sack Winterfell and he appears to have seen a dragon or something.

>"The smoke and ash clouded his eyes, and in the sky he saw a great winged snake whose roar was a river of flame. He bared his teeth, but then the snake was gone," (ACOK, 718).

The fuck is that shit?

if rhaegar was going to name his son after anyone it wouldve been after his best bud arthur dayne, not some faggot from the stormlands

pretty sure Ned named Jon after Jon Arryn.

Someone post that image comparing book Chad Snow versus show beta Snow.

>Lyanna doesn’t like Robert because he sleeps around
>Gets with Rhaegar who is married
What a cunt. Unworthy of Robert’s love. Though could be that she was raped but just didn’t want her rape baby to die.

>guy whose house has an ancient mythical bronze armour covered in magical runes that supposedly keeps you safe
>literally called BRONZE Yohn
>yo let's have him always wear some dingy-looking steel cuirass
It must have been on purpose, right? They were fucking with us all along.

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rape doesn't really make sense tbqh every character who was close to rhaegar reflects he was a pretty decent guy, definitely didn't seem like a rapist. only robert claims he was the devil

she's a dumb 15 year old roastie to whom rhaegar probably promised that he'd get a divorce or something.

I've always wondered this too, yet nobody ever talks about it. What the fuck is going on with that shit? Is there any theories? Am I supposed to take it literally?

>awaken Aeron's gift
He's trying to cure ED?

She is going to start connecting the dots from her vision in the next book, so she is probably going to be pretty pissed when she finds out people acknowleged mummer dragon as legitimate Targ. This is gonna be one of the reasons for her slide into insanity and sack of Kings landing

In an alternate universe, the guy in your pic played Thor and it was a gritty early 00's R-rated fantasy kino.

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You think JonCon hangs around Aegon because he hopes that he'd get to tap that? He's no Rhaegar, but close enough

Good in Westeros is used very loosely. For example Kevan Lannister and his men target civilians on orders of Tywin but Varys still calls him a good man

If i remember on the book he is the only one trying to keep the realm not falling appart and that's why Varris dab on him ?

Only if it was in this artstyle. Realistc style that youposted nauseates me

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That's why I still think the Stark words were just a threat, from back when they were the King's of Winter, just saying "we're gonna get ya!". None of the other ancient snownigger houses have philosophical words on that level, they're just telling you they've got sharp knives or shit like that.

Looked it up quickly and one theory is that it's just how Summer perceives things as an animal (like how he perceives a chain as a metal snake) or that it's a vision of things to come and symbolic of shit like Jon being a Targ.

because varys wants the realm to fall apart in time for a targ savior to arrive and deliver it from usurpers

No, but he's keeping him in darkness and giving him shade of the evening. Sound familiar?

yeah since he is dead Cersei's sperging will leave the realm wide open for Aegons conquest

I don't even know wtf is even going on here

To each to their own I suppose.

'Faegon' is the legit Aegon. Daenerys is a Blackfyre descendant. She's even named after the very first Blackfyres true love, who he rose in rebellion over. The first Daenerys.

She has a shit load of stallion horse lord imagery. Again is imagery associated with Blackfyres.

When Daemon Blackyre was denied the love of his life Daenerys Targaryen he entered a political marriage with Rohanne of Tyrosh. ( lord of the rings horse lord name ).

And Daemons key supporter was Aegor rivers who was described by GRRM to be like Conan the Barbarian.

And we get horselord imagery once again. As a Bracken Aegor chose the dragon winged stallion as his sigil.

Daenerys was also born the same year as bittersteel / Aegor.

And you have clear rivalry with Bloodraven and Bittersteel. Bloodraven is modelled of of Elric of Melnibone and there was a crossover comic where Elric and Conan met and departed as enemies.

Jon is clearly the dragon Bloodraven is backing. And Daenerys is the Blackfyre camp. With her associations with Barbarians, horselords, being named after the first Daenerys who was associated with the very first Blackfyre.

And she has a great bastard like name.

Shiera SEASTAR, Brynden BLOODRAVEN, Aegor BITTERSTEEL, Daenerys STORMBORN.

Second Dance of Dragons will happen, Jon being the Greens ( Rhaegal ) and Daenerys being the Blacks ( Drogon ) and this time around the Greens will win.

Drogon. I just wish his show counterpart retained his red eyes from earlier seasons and also had a darker flame like described in the books

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Doesn't Drogon breathe black fire?

Yes I'm pretty sure or something similar to it, just like Balerion

so how does faegon fit in

Kind of a sad irony that Barristen who thought to have put down the last Blackfyre is now supporting the final Blackfyre invasion.

Fair enough. I found the dragons in that show to have faces that were too expressive and shit.

He's legit baby swap. Why would Varys confess to a dying man that Aegon is alive and was swapped. That makes no sense at all when you look at the situation. He's just murdered a man, and as he is about to pass over to death for good Varys confesses that he swapped Aegon out.

No, black or green

what?

black or green faggot

You just said second dance, Dany being black, Jon being green. So which side will "legit aegon" fall on?

Gold. A new factor. He takes westeros basically claiming the hero status that she was hoping to gain by taking down the lannisters. So when she arrives. She appears to be a destructive force. Going to war against the guy who just saved westeros. She'll win against Aegon of course and she'll gain villain status.

So, a targ, leading a blackfyre army, when there's a legit blackfyre in the world with dragons?

Dany has three dragons. And there's the whole three heads has the dragon prophecy. Her three dragons are coloured gold, green and black. Aegon who is supported by the golden company will bond with the gold dragon, Jon will bond with the green named after his father, and dany drogon. The black dragon who breathes black fire.

>This is what Targfags believe

Pretty much. They've been assured a return from exile. They've given up on their original cause, and just want to go home. Hence the breaking of their first contract ever.

I think Illyrio's plan was a merging of blood lines. For Aegon to wed Dany. But that shit will obviously go south because she's a crazy bitch and Aegon beat her to the throne, is now viewed as a saviour and his existence fucks up the story that she believed all this time. That the throne is hers by right and she's the last saving grace of a dead dynasty.

Fucking garbage.Everytime I see this shit in wiki I feel nauseous.

Tbh I agree with most of this, I just think the people are jumbled a little bit. It would make everything line up better. something's off about the whole story.

What is the quote from?
Also, I think there was something in Sothoryos and/or the Basilisk isles that resembled that. Though not ones as large as arms or having faces.

World if you are really into world building.
Fire and Blood if you just want detailed Targ histories.

Well it's Arya II from AFfC, so I'm assuming it's the kindly man.

Sothoryos sounds like fucking Skull Island
>Giant apes that can kill elephants with a punch
>Wyverns
>Jurassic Park-esque Velociraptors

who /interestedinasshai/ here?

A decent copypasta but a dumb theory. For example, Dany was born in the presence of Targ loyalists who carried her to safety with her Targ brother who raised her.

And Targs have fancy names like STORMBORN. For example, Aerion BRIGHTFLAME.

points for effort tho

I think GC honestly believes aegon is blackfyre. Thats why Illyrio says that some contracts are written in blood and others in gold

According to the show, he did

Dany isn't the best narrator of her early history. I don't completely agree with the exact placement of people, but a lot of it fits.

>suggesting Dany is a Blackfyre fucking shit
Kys.

None of it fits outside of supposition, and like I just pointed out some of it is deliberately misleading or just plain ignorant of the lore.

Just fyi, the "First Daenerys" that we know of was Daenerys the Dreamer, a Targ with dragon dreams that led the meager house to pick up and exile themselves to Dragonstone before Valyria exploded.
I personally don't think Dany is a Blackfyre, but there is definitely some fuckery going on with baby switching, so it has to go one way or the other.

Fire and blood, the new book about the Targ dynasty

the picture is from the book as well

>doesn’t fit

Danny isn’t born until after 9 months KL falls

Explain lemon trees outside red door

You forget
>Orcs
>Basilisks
>Lizardmen
>Giant Snakes and Crocodiles

So she is going mad with greyscale and as a result is getting lovecraftian visions of madness?
Neat.

>Orcs
Aren't they called brindled men in the books?

>'Faegon' is the legit Aegon.
No, he is the son of the last female Blackfyre (hence why we're told only the male line was dead) and Illyrio, who he resembles a young version of (ADWD)

>She has a shit load of stallion horse lord imagery. Again is imagery associated with Blackfyres.
Associated with a Blackfyre, Bittersteel, because of his mother's house. Dany's connection is via the Dothraki and was the imagery was for her son.

>When Daemon Blackyre was denied the love of his life Daenerys Targaryen he entered a political marriage with Rohanne of Tyrosh. ( lord of the rings horse lord name ).
A name also used for a lady of Casterly Rock.

>And she has a great bastard like name.
Aerion Brightflame

Aegon is the fake. The rest of your post was just nonsense btw.

Cat shit.

It's the house she grew up in with Will Darry until Bravos told them to get fucked?

No, she was taken to Valyria by Balerion the Black Dread and came back burning from the inside.

Balerion also had a 9 foot half healed scar on him

>Danny isn’t born until after 9 months KL falls
The queen was known to be pregnant went sent to Dragonstone with Viserys

>Explain lemon trees outside red door
Lemon trees were planted in northern Europe, including Amsterdam, during the 15th and 16th centuries, for rich people. A rich host having a lemon tree isn't unusual.

so varys lied to a dying man

some pure autism going on

Yeah, but they're orcs. Call a spade a spade.

Varys doesn't lie. He withholds the truth. He nevers said Aegon was a Targaryen.

>Book Valyria has literal lava demons spreading curses like this
>Show Valyria is just a leprosery and the lava demons just fairy tales
Why was D&D so obsessed with deleting all the magic?

Sounds a bit like some kind of hominid when reading the wiki. Bit like how the Ibbense come across as neanderthals.

When she tried to tame Balerion he flew to Valyria with her. Came back a year later with her in that condition (she died the night she returned)

Big B was also badly wounded himself, which IIRC is the only time that's ever happened. Which both made him the only living thing to ever come back from a trip to Valyria before Euron Greyjoy, and made it clear that there's something so fucking bad in Valyria that it actually mauled Balerion the Black Dread.

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There are only four good Freys, right?
Perwyn, Olyvar, Alesander and Roslin.

We don't really know of Valyria does have actual demons there but it was as sure as hell hellish, the sea being smoking, the sky above constantly red, probably poisonous fumes everywhere. We only see it from a distance in ADwD and it's pretty eerie and you understand why no one can really go back there to recolonise it or whatever. It's fucking peaceful and quaint in the show aside from the stone men that sperg out and attack you.

Gold isn't cream, user
Just shitty fanart that doesn't do them justice.
Sunfyre was excessively beautiful
>Sunfyre had gleaming gold scales, which shone like beaten gold in the sunlight, and pale pink wing membranes. His flames were golden as well.
Sheepstealer was the opposite, he was a wild dragon for most of his life and was described as an ugly mud brown. Some dragons would be described as ugly with twisted and deformed or otherwise malformed features, which I always thought was sort of cool in it's own way.
In terms of deeds and reputation though, Ceraxes the Bloodwrym and Cannibal are definitely my favorites.

The only good Frey is a hanged Frey.

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Shit, I have to get the Targ book

it's all the radioactive mutants monsters in Valyria

it was a nuclear explosion that destroyed it

>something so fucking bad in Valyria that it actually mauled Balerion the Black Dread.
MFW

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>doesnt include Rhaegar Frey
he doesnt know

>never knew this lore
>look into some more
>Aerea was only 14 when she died
Pretty fucked up

>Rhaegar Frey
kek

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>an autist is just hiding under the lava for years just waiting for dragons to come back and beat the shit out of them with a greatsword

I can't believe the show left out the squisher/mermaid master plan

Now that this thread is comprised of 90% bookfags let's discuss the real issues:

What the fuck happened to Tyrek Lannister?
Do you think it's even possible for GRRM to tie up every single loose end without it being a complete failure?

dumb bitch shouldn't have tried to tame the largest most hardcore fucking dragon

Firewyrms are plausible desu. A pack of them ganging up on Balerion could do some damage.

>Pretty fucked up
>Laughs in Elia

Tyrek Lannister is the random dude in the house of black and white

> Brandon Snow is hiding there with his Weirwood arrows.

Maario naharis

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Littlefinger has him. He put on the riots.

>everyone is secretly a Targ except Dany
LOL!

why would he go there though

Littlefinger has him

Varys might be keeping him to place as the Lannister of the rock.

Either that or he got turned into brown.

Varys probably has him. He'll be a small thread in further cementing Aegon. There's a of threads but fans probably underestimate how many birds GRRM is able to kill with one stone, i.e. multiple threads can be resolved in a single chapter.

there is no evidence for him being anywhere else

>There will come a day after a long summer when the stars bleed and the cold breath of darkness falls heavy on the world. In this dread hour a warrior shall draw from the fire a burning sword. And that sword shall be Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes, and he who clasps it shall be Azor Ahai come again, and the darkness shall flee before him.
The Prince that was Promised is Azor Ahai if Mel can be trusted, which fits with Mel seeing visions of Jon in her fire when asking to see Azor Ahai (while hoping to be shown Stannis). Ice and fire could be looked at in two ways, the Others are said to bring the long night and are ice while Azor Ahai is a champion of R'hllor so fire, or Jon has a Stark mother (ice) and Targ father (fire).

He's probably dead lol.

He's too old to be of use to anyone, he knows he's a lannister and would need to have been locked up for years

>Tyrek Lannister
Varys is keeping him captive until Aegon is King
He needs a Lannister to hold the Rock for Aegon

Absurdly and unequivocally based as fuck.

Is it impossible that he's Aegon

fAegon is obviously a red herring since the show dropped him entirely

Except every single thing that happens in the riots serves littlefinger. Having wards when houses are starting to be extiguished is a smart smart play.

It doesn't mention anything about them being parasitic though. I don't think those were firewryms.

fAegon was molested by JonCon, the evidence is all there

There's a lot of shit that got dropped early on that it made you wonder if it's totally worthless in the books. Victarion, Stoneheart, Patchface, "Aegon", warging

>Gets killed by a member of House Bracken in one on one combat

How does anyone like these fags lol

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>Projecting this hard
Just because your uncle Lester was a monster that visited your room at night doesn't mean all uncle figures are, user.

That little minx aeg'ed him on. He couldn't help himself.

the show dropped pretty much everything from Feast and Dance desu

they usually win

>tfw we're never getting a quality Blackfyre rebellion spinoff with Ray Stevenson as Bittersteel

They got that stronk first man blood.

The plan to wed Aegon to Dany only ever came up after she hatched dragons, an event no-one ever predicted happening. If Illyrio and Varys were planning to wed Aegon to Dany originally they wouldn't have sent her off to fuck horses.

How will Others actually get past the wall in books?
Even if Euron is working with them (its kinda implied in released TWOW chapters: "...but we shall feast before the fall of night!"), i don't think he is literally gonna burn the Wall down. Maybe the dragons fire magic can counter the ice magic that holds Others back (Ancient spells were carved into its foundation. Strong magic. To protect men from what lies beyond. And while it stands, the dead cannot pass)?

fAegon is Daario
He's going to be King of Essos

brown ben plumm
moqorro

Yes, but not with the horn of winter. Sam has it. Also it doesn't bring the wall down.

Not familiar with the story of Jericho?

Lot of show fags pretending to be book fags ITT

Should've seen the last thread, wikifags to the brim

MESSAGE TO ALL OF /GOT/:

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I hate how they massacred Eddard in the show.

Even after he's dead they drop the line with Bran saying Eddard could never stop bragging about defeating Arthur Dayne in combat, completely the opposite of his actual characters personality

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The whole thing was a mess.

>"Robert's rebellion was built on a lie!"
Literally wut. Robert's rebellion was triggered by Aerys murdering lords and knights without their due process, and trying to violate the guest rite and traditions of wardship by outright murdering Ned and Robert.

F-fuck you. I-I'm just a knowledgeable fanboy... I'm not a showfag fucking shit.

FINISH THE BOOKS FATMAN

Ned, blackfish, mance, whole books got btfo'd by the show

D&D can't even keep up with shit that has taken place on screen. They said the first time we see Stannis he's burning people. He wasn't; he was only burning statues of the Seven to show he rejected the religion. They say dumb shit like "Creatively it made sense, because we wanted it to happen". They're smug frat boys that think they are much smarter than they really are

The Night's King managed to have his Other waifu and possibly other Others live with him at the Nightfort just fine, so there is some way for them to pass the Wall without outright destroying it.

So is /Ourfag/ loras actually dying?

>Eddard could never stop bragging about defeating Arthur Dayne in combat
The fuck?

That completely went over my head.
When did this occur?

Season 6 I presume?

The conflict is morally grey, which show watchers can't handle

Prime example of the hack job DnD’s fan fiction devolved into. Danny bad! Jon good!

faggot don't even start, ned was one of the characters they didn't ruin and in some ways he's even better in the show than in the books because of sean's beans performance and how he gets a small minor victory at the end by telling yoren where Arya is. yes that line is complete trash but he was hardly massacred, especially compared to other characters

>Believing she was actually an other

hands down his death is announced in the first small council meeting in TWOW

>He's better than my father
>Much better
>but father beats him, I've heard the story half a hundred times
something along those lines, it's during the tower of joy sequence.

But is it a hoax?

That actually makes sense. He didn't say he heard it FROM his father. Gossiping assholes would be like "That's the man who defeated Ser Arthur Dayne at the Tower of Joy"

Honestly Robert's Rebellion is one of the few non-morally gray conflicts in the series. Aerys and Rhaegar were flat out in the wrong with their treatment of the laws and rites of the land. Now Rhaegar didn't necessarily need to die for his violations, but siding with his insane father finished him.

Not that user but this is one of my favorites. I believe it’s a metaphor for giving “seed” to death for resurrection. Like bran gave the crow his corn, “seed”, to wake up after the fall

Yes. Cersei is told conflicting reports, loras was given a sword by tommen, rining through the dragons mouth means you're already in the castle, etc.

Foot in the bum?

yeah he heard the "story". I think how we see it in the show by howland saving ned is accurate.

desu even if Rhaegar had won or managed some kind of peaceful resolution I can't imagine he'd have won many fans with the whole let's run off with this 14 year old peace of ass, I can't see how this won't work out well.

>implying Rhaegar made any mistakes, and didn’t accelerate the prophecy being fulfilled.

This, Aerys and rhaegar were fucking retards. Rhaegar was not a good person and I kind of wish people stopped painting him as a hero.

>In 4 days it will be the 3 year anniversary of the last chapter George released for TWOW

le sigh

Why else would Brandon and Joramun team up to ruin his shit? If she was just some albino wildling Joramun would be helping him not killing him.

Didn't the showrunners do this weird thing where they decided Ned would be one of the best swordsmen in the kingdom that can tangle with Jaime?

A bum IN his bum

>raise krakens from the deep
>rule the seas
>become a god
Basically be a complete madlad

t. Wikifag

How dare you speculate about my death when I'm an old obese fuck who shows zero interest to shed some of that fat.

So rhaegar was in the right?

He was definitely the hero of his own story, as he believed he was seeing the bigger picture by fulfilling an important prophecy. Guy didn't know Aerys would sperg out and start a war. He probably just thought he would cause a big scandal and harm his House's reputation, which was a small price to pay in his mind. He definitely wasn't some cruel asshole like Tywin or anything.

Because of the bloodline they were giving the others. It's why they struck his name from the record. Preston's right on this one. It's a direct comparison to bloodraven(an albino with strong blood) trying to prolong the pact by setting up crasters keep.

You’re thinking in Jewish dynamics. He did what he believed in. As did RB

Brindled men seem to be more like some kind of Denisovan or Homo Erectus

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It's the kind of story people would tell a kid about his dad to show the kid what a top bloke his dad was. I don't imagine Ned getting bevied and bragging about it like an alky down the pub pretending he was in the SAS.

Well yeah. You don't run off with a noble girl betrothed to another noble. If he were to be spared part of the requirement would obviously be the return of Lyanna.

I hope he screamed that at Robert

In the grand scheme of prophesy? Guess we'll find out. Politically? Lol

It would fill me with joy if it turned out Rheagar really was endlessly raping Lyanna

Even if you want to argue he made a massive mistake or whatever, he was definitely good hearted otherwise. Guys chivalrous to a fault and smallfolk admired him cause he had honour, courage, and passion.

He's just b8ing you. Ignore him.

You're missing the part where Rhaegar thought was fulfilling an important prophecy. He thought he was seeing the bigger picture and acting in service of it.

>conspired to take the throne early
>abandoned his wife and children in the belief that his dick would save the world
>"kidnapped" lyanna knowing full well the consequences such an action would have
Rheagar was unbelievably selfish and thought the world was owed to him. He deserved that hammer through his chest.

In the books Ned says he would have died if not for Howland Reed which bran remembers, while in the show Bran is shocked that Arthur Dayne was better

I take it you prescribe to the theory the tourney was staged for the plot to remove the mad king?

Destroying your house for a bit of northern pussy is the definition of retard.

None of us hebes on this board would have an issue with it amirite

>Play CK2 GOT mod
>Have Jon take Stannis' offer and then marry Val every time
At least I can dream

Silver-haired autists obsessed with harps and reading prophecies is no basis for a system of government.

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Nah m8, the entire Night's King story is a prelude for Jon. Jon is told all his life the wildlings are evil shits who want to pass the wall so they can eat babies and rape everyone, then he actually meets them and they're just people, smelly unhinged wild people with giants and mammoths and wargs but still people. Jon's been told all his life the Others are evil shits who want to pass the wall so they can skullfuck everyone with ice dildos and kill all life. Wait until he actually meets them.

can someone redpill me about Euron raising krakens? what is the evidence supporting it

I don't. Jaime says right before Rhaegar left for the trident is when he brings up he wants to make changes. Harrenhal was strictly prophesy driven.

Aeron has a hallucination that Euron has a kraken face and tentacles reaching out everywhere

>good hearted
>honorable

>deliberately violates a legal betrothal knowing it will lead to confrontation his insane father will participate in

>Homo Erectus
das gay

the others are obviously a metaphor for niggers
grrm is pretty based for including that

>Conspired to take it from his fucking insane, sadistic father.
>As you say, he thought his dick would save the world. He literally believe big, big things were at stake
>Again, he thought was seeing the bigger picture, and him running off with Lyanna alone would not have sparked a rebellion. Aerys killing the nobles without a fair trial and demanding Robert and Ned is what kicked off the war
Yeah, sure. A lot of shit went down at Harrenhal so I don't have much trouble believing that one.

well his sigil kinda is a kraken with a red eye

If Rhaegar was Azor Ahai and he tempered his "sword" three times with the third time in his true love does that mean after fucking Lyanna his dick burst into flames when he pulled it out?

>Jamie, when I return I will see to it that the so called crime of rape is abolished throughout the 7 kingdoms.

>Muh broken betrothal!
For fuck's sake, it's not hard to grasp the fact that Rhaegar genuinely believed he was seeing a bigger picture, things were at stake, and through Lyanna an important prophecy would be fulfilled. He was so wrapped up in that and the romance I really doubt he took time to play 4D chess and consider the fact that Brandon would lose his shit, bang on the Red Keep's door, and Aerys would go totally overboard and spark a war.

>We must police these thots, Jaime.

I know, but in the show I never got the sense Bran knew the story from Ned's bragging.

No way he's dead.
He's going to become like the hound. It's a reverse.

Hound starts off scarred and evil but eventually finds good and becomes a better person.

Loras starts off with everything but will eventually become an evil burnt monster

>Blackfish dies off-screen when Jaime takes Riverrun
>Later it is stated that Jaime took Riverrun with zero casualties
lmao they actually forgot Blackfish even existed

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>Nights king reigns for 13 years
Guess how long bloodraven was around for?
>Nights king has an "other" wife, probably an albino with first man warg blood
Guess what albino bloodraven has?

Gods, that would be kino.

>I really doubt he took time to play 4D chess
Took the time? For basic ideas of consequences for actions.

So you know, that's a trait of sociopaths and psychopaths. Which combines nicely with thinking he's fulfilling a "prophecy".

Virgin and Chad.

Tbh it's all high hearts fault. If she hadn't made that prophesy........

loras is a perfumed fag and him losing his looks would be a good peg down for him but why would he become a monster (personality-wise)

I'm basing this mainly off the fact that we've seen hints that Loras is not as chivalrous as he pretends to be.

Loras forgetting who Sansa is after giving her the rose, and his rage taking over as he kills members of Renly's kingsguard.

To me that show's he plays at chivalry and is everything a knight "should" be but under the surface he's a cold-hearted killer.

>Muh prophecy!
For fuck's sake, it's not hard to grasp the fact that the Starks genuinely they were seeing a bigger picture, things were at stake, and a family member had been kidnapped. They were so wrapped up in that and the violation of the laws of the realm I doubt they took the time to play 4D chess and consider made-up predictions of the future written a continent away with no grounding in reality.

The consequence I imagined he assumed would be causing a big scandal over getting with someone's betrothed and damaging his House's reputation heavily, which he probably saw as worth it in the grand scheme of things. Brandon flipping out, Aerys flipping out to the extent he did, and the war he sparked is such a specific series of events that yeah, he have to have been playing 4D chess for foresee it.

Lol that's because he's a gaaaaay

Not nearly as much as Homo Coitus

Young Griff isn't the real Aegon. But the real Aegon is alive (not Jon).

nah ned was better in the show than in the books

New thread? These threads are pretty good with minimum showfaggotry.

If he can't anticipate violence in a legal system that has it built in as an option for the nobility, especially coming from a family whose culture is known for responding to slights with violence, he's a serious autist.

And there's no way he's simultaneously preparing to replace his father but also can't expect him to react in a crazy way.

Weird as hell reply. I perfectly understand the way the Starks reacted, calling their banners, etc.. You seem to think this is some tumblr level 'Fuck the Starks! Rhaegar was the best!' fangirl bullshit thing. All I'm saying is that I don't believe he was a bad man.

At that point the North was its own kingdom kept separate from the others, literally fucking everyone there had strong first man warg blood. And if you're going to ignore the fact her skin was said to be cold as ice then you might as well ignore her skin being pure white too, the entire story becomes worthless if you just believe parts of it as fake at random.

>he have to have been playing 4D chess for foresee it

you seem to be eager to be a rhaegar apologist when you insist easily anticipated results to require playing "4D chess"

Nah, half of the neds story in GoT is cerebral, something that didn't translate well to screen.

They cut the ToJ dream, cersie propositioning him, the fact the "promise" kept him in KL, etc. Just because the first season is the best one doesn't mean they didn't mess some things up.

NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD

>Weird as hell reply.
I just thought your post was retarded and thought to mimic it. He was a bad man. He did bad things that got a lot of people killed.

The Supreme Gentleman that was promised

yeah but sean bean's performance elevated it above that, and I think ned getting to actually do something at the end to save Arya was a better end than him just getting fucked

So the wall is a warm place then? Last I checked it's ice cold there. Also albino is pure white.

I don’t think anyone expects the petition to do anything beyond humiliating D&D

This is assuming he's even burnt in the first place, and not just rusing Cersei.

He's also a retard, he thinks "books are for maesters" and doesn't even know what the white book is.

That was already true for the show.

There somehow being a perception she's been violently kidnapped breaking out, Brandon marching up to the Red Keep, Aerys doing the unthinkable by killing off a bunch of nobles without a fair trial in a sadistic ways before demanding Arryn turn over his wards and thus spark a war when he says no? That's quite a series of events to anticipate. I doubt he thought there would be zero consequences, but not consequences like that.
>rhaegar apologist
I view him as a well intentioned man that had a good heart in other areas that did what he did cause he thought it was in service of something bigger. This isn't some tumblr-tier fangirling bullshit. Rhaegar's not a character that has ever appeared on the pages in any significant personality, so it's not like he's a favourite or anything of mine either.

What in the fuck point are you trying to make here? Someone living in an ice cold place doesn't make their skin cold as ice unless they are fucking dead. Eskimos don't have cold skin. Humans are warmblooded creatures.

>Does provide a decent reply but goes on some weird non-sequitur tangent about the Starks
>You're post was retarded!!
Nice one.
>He did bad things that got a lot of people killed.
No shit his actions led started a chain of events that did lead to the rebellion. I still reject the idea this makes him a bad man at heart, nor do I consider getting off with another man's betrothed because, as I keep saying, he did it not out of petty lust but a belief that a higher cause was being served.

Brandon was known for being a hothead and Aerys is known for burning niggers he doesn't like. It doesn't take a genius to think that maybe, just maybe, Brandon might overreact and Aerys might overreact to his overreaction.

>maybe, just maybe
Nice. Spam oof, yikes, and wow just wow at me unironically next time. As for the rest, hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it? People beat themselves up all the time for shit that they believe they should have foreseen and having hindsight. Aerys are unhinged but going as far as he did to the point it sparks a war? There somehow being a perception she was violently kidnapped? Deeply known the personality of this Northern heir? Nah, I don't buy that he definitely should have foreseen those things

>getting upset at the use of the term, "maybe, just maybe,"
Wow, big yikes from me you soft-skinned fucking fairy.
>I don't buy that he definitely should have foreseen his father the mad king (who was known for burning dissenters) burning dissenters
Don't get me wrong here, the blame isn't entirely on Rhaegar and you're right he wouldn't exactly know Brandon very well, that's also on Lyanna's head for either not seeing it coming or not impressing it on Rhaegar, they're both fucking retards in that regard.