I don't get it. Why does everyone think he's one of the MCU's best villains...

you neither

His plan was less about having them successfully take over their societies, but more to simply cause so much chaos that only wakanda is left standing and can have imperial rule afterward

He embodies black privilege, very relatable in this day and age

oh so then his motivation is absolute power like a good half of marvel villains?

thats even worse user

I liked him. I liked how there was this question at the core of the movie if the best future for Wakanda is isolationism, as it used to be unter the previous rulers, joining the international community like T'challa wants to or outright imperialism, which Killmongers intention is. Of course that's still done in what's a pretty shallow action movie but at least it didn't go and portray nationalism positively as I was afraid it would. I think Killmonger is still a bit of a strawman antagonist but at least he represents a somewhat coherent philosophy.

>the fault of white people
but he blamed Wakanda for not doing anything, which T'challa agrees with, they should had helped more the outside world
>Was gonna arm a bunch of gangsters
he was gonna arm the wakanda sleeper cells and then make them distribute weapons,

That's not entirely true. Just some examples that come to mind of villains that are more than just "I am evil."

>Iron Man - 2
Vanko wanted revenge for his dad getting screwed over by Tony's dad when both of them came up with plans for the Arc Reactor Core.

>Iron Man - 3
Mandarin was stood up by Stark and his general insecurity and paranoia as a perceived lesser person gave rise to his superiority complex.

>Thor
Loki wanted the throne so badly and was upstaged by a more immature Thor at the time coupled with his ancestry of being a frost giant, a sworn enemy of Asgard, pushed him over the edge and drove him mad.

>Captain America Civil War
Zemo wanted revenge for his dead family and used a unique tactic of turning the Avengers against each other by taking advantage of the Sokovia Accords which had already created a sizeable rift.

>Guardians 2
Ego felt so isolated by the concept of his own existence and driven by finally discovering a purpose that he came to realize he did not want to be lonely and sought to spread his influence and being across the universe. To truly become whole.

>Black guy literally wants to start a global race-war and eventual global genocide dominated by heavily-armed blacks
>Average leftist NPC: "SUCH A SYMPATHETIC VILLAIN. I COULD TRULY EMPATHIZE WITH HIM."

It really fucking frightens me that this is how mainstream society thinks now.

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Why didn't leftist hate him for callously killing his gf when she ws taken hostage?

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>Marvel: Writing the Perfect Villain

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>Black Panther Fixes Marvel's Most Common Flaws

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>Is Black Panther's Killmonger the Best Villain Since the Joker? – Wisecrack Quick Take

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>Why Black Panther Has Marvel’s Best Villain Ever

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>Killmonger - 3 Screenwriting Reasons WHY he's a Great Villain

>Avengers against each other by taking advantage of the Sokovia Accords which had already created a sizeable rift
They did that themselves, he wanted to make them fight with the tape, the whole fight between each other at the airport was their fault, but yea Zemo was great
>Vanko wanted revenge for his dad getting
Lame
>Loki wanted the throne so badly
I honestly don't remember the plots or dialogue that much from the first 2 Thor movies but pretty sure you are over selling Loki's motivation
>Ego felt so isolated by the concept of his own existence
He was full of Ego and believed other races complete insects, so he wanted to make everything into him, not his influence

>Black Panther still triggering /pol/cucks to this day
Love it

The "kill whitey" thing was retarded but his motivation to return to the place which killed his father and effectively outcasted him and brutally take it over was incredible. That speech he gives to Black Panther at the trial by combat is amazing.
>I killed men in America! I killed men in Afghanistan! All that death, just so I could come here and kill you!
He's the best villain out of the MCU imo

Best vilain Of MCU (thanos and loki doesn't count) is the chad Vulture

>I killed men in America! I killed men in Afghanistan! All that death, just so I could come here and kill you!
That line is pure fucking cringe. It's on the level of Iron Man 1 when Jeff (can't even remember the character he plays) says he's gonna kill Tony with the suit or whatever it was. If you actually think he's a good character or that line is great then I hope you never get allowed to write a script for anything.

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Poor shitpost. Not that guy, but it shows that he's so numb to life that he will be the villain regardless of his motive. I thought him killing his girl and having no care in the world was interesting.

Guess we disagree. I thought it was a good line, it showed his savagery and drive all at once. The dude literally didn't care about anything except killing BP and bringing Wakanda to its knees as retribution for what happened to his father and then using it to hammer at the world. At his core Kilmonger was just an angry kid who felt the need to pay the world back for what he felt was unjust treatment, and that's what made him a compelling villain.
Another line I loved:
>I should have taken you back long ago. Instead, we are both abandoned here.
>Maybe your home is the one that's lost. That's why they can't find us.
N'Jobu's tears when he realizes that nothing will make his son stop was one of the better scenes in the MCU imo. You simultaneously feel pity and admiration for Kilmonger.
All the ghettospeak from him was cringy but otherwise great motivations and scenes. Look past the fact that its about nigs and he's a solid character. He outshone T'Challa, I was rooting for Kilmonger by the end of the movie.

Except when you get down to it, his motivation is 'I'm evil' all his little speeches are just window dressing

How?

Not that guy, but I think his character was fine, probably better than most marvel shit, though that's not a very high line.
My biggest problem is that Michael B Jordan cant pull off the streetspeak ebonics shit at all, he sounds like a wigger.

Is that Blade? I liked Blade

The ebonics was cringy as fuck in the first place, he should've spoken properly tbqh. It wasn't doing the character any favors and the outreach to black culture was eye-rolling, but at his core it was a good character.
If you cut the ebonics but keep the cockiness, dial up the anger but make it more calculated, and drop the whole "free the ghettos" plot at the end it would have been great. Make it so that after Kilmonger takes the throne and supposedly kills T'Challa he decides to put to death anyone in the city he deems related to what happened to his father and then he decides to expand and rule more territory from Wakanda.

1) he's black
2) he made a very vague strawman comparison between himself and slaves
Those are the reasons. Ironically he could've been a much better character if they had him zero in more on Black Panther being the exact type of leader who would've sold slaves to the Euros way back when, to keep the peace.
Also it's weird that they never mention his mom, and that they mention how he was like a fucking MIT graduate with 10 years in the marines or whatever despite him still talking like a typical "I read books tho nigga" hoodrat.

I really have no idea why they tried to force that "hood" theme so badly. His desire to overtake the world for Africans isn't even a bad motivator, it just makes him into the Wakandan evil overlord, and he'd probably do better if he simply talked like a ferocious warrior or a long-time veteran soldier, and not some hip-hop rapper. The fucking trap sections in the soundtrack were also absolutely terrible and out of place for that reason specifically.

Or better yet, why didn't they go 100% with making him a hip-hop stereotype? You could have had him dressed in full-on flashy and gaudy leopard print fur-lined attire with tons of bling and etc. and then stated that he got every one of his rings and necklaces from an enemy captain (could have even shown a segment of him raiding a terrorist base single-handed). Later you could even make it clear that his affectations towards the ghetto are because they don't have the power to "fight their oppressors" like he did. But they instead wound up taking the lame middleground where he doesn't look hip-hop, but also has rap music playing, where he doesn't look or talk like a noble warrior, but delivers lines as if he's supposed to be one.

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yeah I agree. the music was gratuitous sometimes too. Yeah, its a black movie and all, but god damn, it didn't need to be that heavy handed, it seemed patronizing to me.

Killmonger was fine, even with what I dislike, he was still one of the better villains. The movie itself was pretty mediocre though by their standards, but I have that to say about every recent marvel movie

I know he was going to arm Wakanda sleepers, but it would have been fucking hilarious if the film had him arm the ghettos
>arm people in the ghettos
>he watches in horror as black on black crime is ramped up to genocidal levels

>Why does everyone think he's one of the MCU's best villains
people who read the comics know his character is great.

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>everyone
Buzzfeed doesn’t count as everyone

cringe, Ego was a better villain by far

is that supposed to qualify as well written? is the point of his character to be a hypcrite?
Just make him black magneto (aka Malcolm X) and not ever compromise his morals at all by slumming it with coalburners, but I guess the need to show interracial fucking in comics is more important than good characterization