The fucking dragon is called Drogon

>the fucking dragon is called Drogon

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>a song of ice and fire
>ghost is ice
>drogon is fire

>the western land is called Westeros

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Named after Drogo

>the snowy land is called winterfell

>Joyon Targaryen is born at a place called the Tower of Joy

It's like pottery it even rhymes

>bastards born in snow land are called snow
>bastards born in sand land are called sand

Whats west of Westeros?

Every single name in GoT is utter shit. It doesn’t even have the psycholinguistic tact of someone who has actually read historical texts and knows about different cultures and language roots like Tolkien

>King's Landing

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Stop making me laugh

Dishonest post. Those names are fine and they stem from older languages and older roots. Don’t compare the work of that fat hack to the perfection of reality.

There were also specific suffixes or prefixes for bastards.
Fitz was the English way of naming a royal bastard, for example.

>the northern land is called "White Mans' Land"

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no it'd be Castillo

>greatest Khal to ever live
>fucked the queen, Euron BTFO
>fathered the Stallion That Mounts the World
>died undefeated
>mfw no one remembers him

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If you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all.

>the fucking dragon is called Drogon
Showretards laugh at this. It's names after her dead husband Drogo.

>Martin gives names exactly like it's done in reality
>somehow he's a hack for that

>in the sequel the separate kingdoms form a union
>literally called the United Kingdom
trash

He doesn’t. Even his English-inspired names are inconsistent and all over the place. His lack of any actual knowledge of the world becomes even more apparent when he tries to name things exotically.

>Dragons named after Drogo, Rhaegar, and Vieserys, in the hopes they might be reincarnated
Woah...

you are the blackest retard gorilla nigger i've ever seen

>the land of the finns is called finland
>the land of the angles is called angland
>the land of the germans is called germany
>the land of the franks is called france
>the land of the poles is called poland
>the land of the slovaks is called slovakia
>the land of the turks is called turkey
>the land of the mongols is called mongolia
>the land of ice is called greenland
>the land of green is called iceland
>the lands below sea level are called netherlands
what the fuck were they thinking?

>Westeros
>Essos
>Drogon
is GRMM a child?

what about Zorpaz mo Blorpaz

isn't that something that actually happens? an unclaimed bastard that takes the name of the town or place he was born?

Cope. The fat fuck just couldn't come up with a name and just called it "Drogon" then later came up with some convoluted reason why the name of the dragon is drogon. It's not even a good convoluted reason unlike with Sauronman from the Hobbit prequels.

>region of half saxons is called have-sex

Better than GRRMshit

This, fucking hack writers, people like to pretend the asspull names like Himmler and Hitler were when things got shit but the truth is it was never good

What's the excuse for sauroman?

underrated poast

>western Australia is called Western Australia
>south Australia is called South Australia
>northern Australia is called "the Northern Territory"
>north-east Australia is named after the Queen for some retarded reason
>south-east Australia is also named after the fucking Queen, they were that lazy
>east Australia is just named after a place that already exists with "New South" tacked on
jesus christ...

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He named the other two Rhaegal and Veserion, he could have just named the last one Aeryion or something after Dany's father. Considering Drogo just died though it's fitting he chose him.

>The fat fuck just couldn't come up with a name and just called it "Drogon" then later came up with some convoluted reason why the name of the dragon is drogon
The dragon was named after Drogo was an important character for the entire book, how is that convoluted? Are you stupid?

He was half man and half dinosaur in the rough draft

>we have here a huge land to the south
>is it Terra Australis, latin for South Land?
>we'll call it Australia

>leaders of america literally named Dick and Bush

It's like what were they thinking?!

>psycholinguistic
r/iamverysmart

>island filled with Tasmanians is called Tasmania
wow, SO creative

Kek

>Go to south wales
>Looks nothing like New South Wales
What were they thinking?

w-what's that sovereign principality inside new south wales

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>all the dumb people are in Dumnonia

lol @ the one user desperately trying to pretend like GRRM’s names are fine and are totally like in real life

didnt realize the norf was called Snow

The Emu Dominion

Oh that's the best one, you'll never guess what they called the territory where their capital is; the Australian Capital Territory

it's the territory in which the australian national capitol resides
guess what they called it?
>Australian Capitol Territory
fucking hacks

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that's a wyvern not a dragon so it's okay

>The story has no main protagonist

Prequels tier

wait, is that bad?

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>what should we call our moon?
>The Moon

>Countries are people or characters now
Delusional GoT niggers need to get off my board plz

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The Last Kingdom

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>Tolkien literally uses names like Mount Doom, Treebeard and Saruman
>he isn't considered a hack too somehow

>HE NAMED THE WESTERN LAND WESTEROS
>THE ENTIRE PLACE
>ITS IN THE WEST
>SO ITS WESTEROS
imagine being this much of a hack writer.

>guy's last name is smith
>because his ancestor was a blacksmith

>most of the surface of our planet is covered by water. what should we call it
>earth

Whats wrong with Saruman?

toplel

>planetos
>essos
>westeros
>big wall is just called "The wall"

How the fuck did nobody realise that he was Sauron's henchman with a fucking name like "Sauron-man"?

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underrated

it's called subverting expectations, bruv

I have a good friend irl named Hizdahr zo Loraq

There is literally a character called, get this, Dick Crab.
> Dick Crab
> Nimble Dick will have a grave. He was a Crabb. This is his place.
> —Brienne of Tarth

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Maybe if your mythos takes place in fantasy Texas (I wish)

It's a meme from when one brainlet making an adaption decided it sounded too much like Sauron, so he called him Aruman instead.

Nothing wrong with Saruman, also both Mount Doom and Treebeard are informal nicknames. Mount Doom is aka Amon Amarth and Orodruin, and Treebeard's name is Fangorn in Elvish. In the language of the Ents Treebeard's actual name takes about an hour to say in full as he himself explains it.

> saurons henchman
Whew

>the new world
>not actually a new world

>planetos
is this for real?

>can't be bothered making a proper name for an ancient tree-guy
>"lol so long and complex I just couldn't even write it out if I wanted to haha"
lovecraft-tier hackery

>Author's last name is Smith
>Let's call the protaganist "Smoth" in the book

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Saur =\= Saru

no, that along with "essos" and "sothyros" are terms that never appear a single time in the books

>tfw no val in the show
>they took her character, made him into a finn with black hair and killed her after one episode

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no

Fangorn. I just told you his name in Elvish is Fangorn and he was known as that name since the dawn of time itself when the Ents and Elves first met

Fucks sake , and yes the language of *trees* is meant to take ages to say anything. Do you not remember the Entmoot?

They appear in the companion book and the shows and interviews so they’re 100% canon

>Earth
>Middle East
>South Africa
>Great Wall of China

>GoT fags literally cant read
oh no no no

>Places with nonsense names like Dyfed, Gwynedd, Rheged
>Next to normal named places like Kent and Mercia

Who writes this shit?

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>i-i shuffled 2 letters around it's totally different
lmaoing @ tolkiddies

>continent that resembles Africa
>called The Black Lands, Shadow Lands, The Brown Desert

He actually does write out a word in Entish in the book and it takes an entire page to write out and explain

his real name is Fangorn bud

> t. Brainlet

Saruman, from searu, "device",[33] and mann,[34] "man": "inventor", "homo machinus

GRRM cant into JRRT literal linguistic skills.

>Drogon

That's the fan name, but it does follow Essos and Westeros naming convention Georgy boy established in interviews

I know you're memeing, but you realise that these people name have actual roots right? Like Franks comes from old germanic languages and means "free", or Saxon refers to an axe called the seax iirc.

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>triggered from an obvious shitpost

> hackey
Ok
Rohirric:
Baldor, from bealdor, "master"
Brego, from bregu, "lord"[6]
Ceorl, from ceorl, "commoner"[7]
Dúnhere, from dún, "hill",[8] and here, "army"[9]
Elfhelm, from ælf, "elf",[10] and helm, "helmet"[11]
Elfhild, from ælf, "elf",[10] and hild, "war"[12]
Éomer, from eoh, "warhorse",[13] and mǽre, "famous"[14]
Éomund, from eoh, "warhorse",[13] and mund, "protection, guardian"[15]
Eorl, from eorl, "nobleman"[16]
Éothain, from eoh, "warhorse",[13] and þegn, "servant"[17]
Éowyn, from eoh, "warhorse", and wynn, "joy"
Erkenbrand, from eorcan-, "precious", and brand, "sword"[18]
Fram, from fram, "strong"[19]
Freca, from freca, "warrior"[20]
Frumgar, from fruma, "origin, the first", but also "inventor" and "chief",[21] and gár, "spear"[22]
Gálmód, from gál, "pleasant",[23] and mód, "mind"[24]
Gamling, from gamol, "old",[25] and -ing, a patronymic suffix[26]
Gríma, from gríma, "mask"[27]
Grimbold, from grim, "fierce",[28] and beald, "bold"[29]
Haleth, from hæleþ, "warrior, hero"[30]
Háma, from háma, "cricket"[31]
Helm, from helm, "helmet"[11]
Léod, from léod, "man"[32]
Saruman, from searu, "device",[33] and mann,[34] "man": "inventor", "homo machinus".
Thengel, from þengel, "prince"[35]
Théoden, from þéoden, "chief"[3] or "lord"[36]
Théodred, from þéod, "people",[37] and rǽd, "counsel"[38]
Théodwyn, from þéod, "people",[37] and wynn, "joy"[39]
Wulf, from wulf, "wolf"[40]

Are we brothers Francis?

>name villain's sidekick after villain
>come up with a backstory for the name afterwards to make it sound clever
yikes, exactly the same as

>big bad named Hitler
>his henchman that does all the gangster shit is called Himmler

Bravo Nolan

>The "Common Tongue" of the Andals is, of course, the English language which book readers and TV viewers observe. Author George R.R. Martin has stated that he is not a linguist like J.R.R. Tolkien was, and thus he never thought out all of the languages in his fantasy world to the extent Tolkien did. Infamously, Tolkien made it a point that characters in his books actually do not speak in English: The Lord of the Rings is presented as if it were a "lost Anglo-Saxon saga" that was rotting in a library until Tolkien "rediscovered it" (much as the actual Anglo-Saxon saga Beowulf was lost for centuries and then rediscovered). Tolkien worked under the conceit that the "Common Speech" (or "Westron") which the major characters in his works speak isn't really English, he just "translated" it into English. For example, "Frodo Baggins" is just a translation of the real Westron name, "Maura Labingi", and "Hobbit" is a translation of the real Westron term, "Kuduk". This extends to the point that certain significant names, puns, or allusions would only fully make sense in "real Westron", and not in English

OH NO NO NO NO

>Martin has made no such comments about the "Common Tongue" in his fantasy world, and while Tolkien's Middle-earth was intended to indeed be our world in a lost prehistoric age, Martin has stated that the fantasy world of A Song of Ice and Fire is truly an alternate world with no connection to our own. Thus it would seem that the English used in it doesn't "represent" the "real Common Tongue" through universal translation for the sake of the reader (and TV viewer). The Common Tongue just happens to be exactly like English - though confusingly, this also means that at times it uses English loanwords which obviously originated in other languages (such as "castrati") without explanation, and certain other words that would not have sensibly developed in an alternate world (such as "romantic", in a world without a "Rome").

AHAHAHAHAHA. BRAVO, GRRM, BRAVO.

The seax is not an axe, it's a big knife

Westworld

That's the point, it's dumb.
Wrong continent, the shadow lands is closer to india

that'd be so fucking funny

>among his two other henchmen, the fat one is named Goering and the skinny one Goebbels
How fucking lazy can you be

>main antagonist of the bookverse
>is literally called Black Foe of the World
Tolkien really sniffed his own farts, didn't he?

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Even the English/Celtic inspired names kinda fall flat. But to really highlight the point of his hackery you need to explore his other non-Eng/Celt inspired names. That’s when the hilarity really starts.

> came up with story after
Retard, that is in the language Rohirric, which is based off of the Mercian dialect of old english. Those are literal English words.
> trolling this hard
Dont you have some anime to jack off to?

he was too based and redpilled for his own good

redpilled desu

>big bad of the first war is the Germans
>big bad of the second war is the Germans, but this time led by cartoon villains
why didn't they just come up with something original for once?

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I can’t believe there’s so many unironic die hard fans of GoT here actually defending this plebian tripe by even trying to compare GRRM naming styles with Tolkien or real life.

>Film called Barry Lyndon
>Main character is called Barry Lyndon
Fucking pathetic, why do people praise Kubrick again?

>Wulf, from wulf, "wolf"[40]

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east of Westeros

Jews like to rehash stuff, for effect. They keep doing remakes in Hollywood too

Morgoth, Black Foe of the World is a pretty decent main antagonist title desu

>Holdor holds the door
lad was a door stopper

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>Helm, from helm, "helmet"[11]
wait, is this supposed to illustrate Tolkien being clever or what?

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Just wait until the next World War is led by a German bitch.

spilled my tuna

They tried that with the Cold War and it fucking sucked, now they're trying to build the Chinese up

>called "The Cold War"
>isn't actually a war
did Rian Johnson write this shit?

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>His name is Hodor
>He only says Hodor
>Cause he got hit in the head while someone said Hold Door
OH NO NO NO NO NO

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how is that body type called?

The man literally invented entire languages.
> Quenya
Quenya has a variety of language registers:

Parmaquesta ("book-language"): the literary style in which the Elven-scriptures, the "Ainulindalë", and other classical Elvish works were written.
Tarquesta ("high-language"): the vernacular speech with two dialects: Vanyarin Quenya and Noldorin Quenya.
Exilic Quenya or "Low Quenya":[37] the spoken style of the Exiled Noldor in Middle-earth.

Tolkien based Quenya pronunciation more on Latin than on Finnish. Thus, Quenya lacks the vowel harmony and consonant gradation present in Finnish, and accent is not always on the first syllable of a word. Typical Finnish elements like the front vowels ö, ä and y are lacking in Quenya, but phonological similarities include the absence of aspirated unvoiced stops or the development of the syllables ti > si in both languages.[14] The combination of a Latin basis with Finnish phonological rules resulted in a product that resembles Italian in many respects, which was Tolkien's favourite modern Romance language.[38]

The grammar of Quenya is agglutinative and mostly suffixing, i.e. different word particles are joined by appending them. It has basic word classes of verbs, nouns and pronouns/determiners, adjectives and prepositions. Nouns are inflected for case and number. Verbs are inflected for tense and aspect, and for agreement with subject and object. In early Quenya, adjectives agree with the noun they modify in case and number, but not in later Quenya, where this agreement disappears.[14] The basic word order is subject–verb–object. Unless otherwise noted, samples in this section refer to Late Quenya as conceived by Tolkien

>the enemy of everything
>named "the adversary"
Abrahamic religions are hacks.

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Deepest lore

I’m talking about GRRM, not Tolkien who actually had an education on these things.

Don't you mean the next World Jihad is led by Germany?

The lexicon of Quenya is rich in proper nouns.

Estë "Rest"; Indis "Bride"; Melcor "He who Arises in Might"; Nessa "Youth"; Varda "Sublime"; Voronwë "Steadfast one."
Aicanáro "Fell Fire"; Ancalimë "Most Bright Lady"; Curumo "Cunning Man"; Fëanáro "Spirit of Fire"; Olórin "(?)Dreamer"; Sauron "The Abhorred."
Ainulindalë "Music of the Ainur"; Eldamar "Home of the Eldar"; Helcaraxë "Jaws of Ice"; Ilúvatar "Father of All"; Oron Oiolossë "Ever Snow-white Peak"; Ondolindë "Rock of Song"; Turambar "Master of Doom"; Valinor "land of the Vali", sc. Valar; Vingilot "Foam-flower"; Yavanna "Giver of fruits."
Mar-nu-Falmar "Land under the Waves"; Mindon Eldaliéva "Lofty Tower of the Elvish-people"; Quenta Silmarillion "Tale of the Silmarils."

Some prepositions and adverbs

ala: [place] beyond; [time] after.
ama: up(wards).
an: towards, upon.
et: forth, out of [with the complement noun in ablative case]
haila: [static] far beyond.
haiya: far, far off, far away.
han: [addition] beyond; over and above, in addition to.
ní: [not touching] beneath, under.
no: 1. under. 2. upon. 3. after (of place), behind.
nu: under, beneath.
ono: 1. in front of, ahead, before [in all relation but time]. 2, after [of time only].

>evil guy is called the D EVIL

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underrated

wait....
WHAT THE FUCK

Then don't jump into a conversation about Tolkien you dumb faggot

Fuck off, God.

>germany
I think you mean Neu Turkei

For you.

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There are two houses, Tollett and Shett, that are literally poop jokes. One character is even called Uther Shett (Utter Shit), and they symbol is a bunch of seagulls on a brown background.

>dragon breathes fire
>when a ghost passes through you, you get a chill and goosebumps

I just used the common translation for our simple friends on the other side of the atlantic ocean.

Ya but I'm directing this to fucking retards suggesting GRRM is comparable to JRRT. Say what you will about the style of writing, but the man was far from a fucking hack. He literally invented entire languages and everything in his stories has an etymological basis in either real world languages of old of ones he made himself. Elvish is a full fucking language with more complexity than shit people actually speak.

>country is a united collection of states in the continent of America
>called the United States of America
Wow, amazing writing right there

Definitely agree bro. Tolkien was good. GRRM is Twilight tier.

>Founded 300 years ago
>Becomes a superpower
USA was such a fucking Gary Sue and where I dropped the series, they tried to save it with the USSR arc but that was just total shit

Elvish fake news, Melkor did nothing wrong

>capital of mexico
>"Mexico city"
>capital of brazil
>"Brasilia"
whoah...

>Hitler's deputy was called Rudolph Hess
>Hitler's chief Jew-killer was called Rudolph Hoess
come on

>Country is a collection of kingdoms working for a common goal
>called "The United Kingdom"
2/10

I thought you were joking. Jesus Christ, every day there is more reason to hate GRRM.

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>the land down under is called Australia

>NEW york
>NEW mexico
>NEW orleans
>NEW south wales
>NEW guinea
>NEW zealand
>NEW jersey
>NEW granada
did they run out of fucking letters or something?

>Wessex
>Essex
>Sussex
>A FUCKING KENT

Just a reminder that there are people in real life named Baker, Smith, and Jackson.

>hooray for my own propaganda

The AMERICAN Tolkien!

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>though confusingly, this also means that at times it uses English loanwords which obviously originated in other languages (such as "castrati") without explanation,

What a hack, "geldings" would had been a perfect usable alternative for "castrati" that didn't have that problem.

these threads are always a good laff

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>these names are old, therefore they are good

>wins in every war they fight in against massive super powers
>lose to rice farmers
Real consistency there

>saruman
>Sauron's henchman
read a book nigger

>implying GRRM even knows what that is

> wait, is this supposed to illustrate Tolkien being clever or what?
Were you born with water on the brain? It's literally old english. He based the langauage of the rohirrim of off old english. Literally. Are you an idiot? Oh wait, of course you are. Nice strawman btw, Helm is easy to mock but you wont touch how he used English root word to literally create names like "Saruman" being derived from "device - inventor / man" meaning the "Inventing Man". As in, the one inventing devices and industrial style technology. I know, too complex for brainlets when it could have just been "Wizard of Stuff" like GRRM would have wrote.

>not knowing the meaning of “doom”
Fucking brianlet

>his cunt became the world

I hear the Chinese arc may be interesting, but is taking them forever to build up the villain.

>winter literally fell at winterfel

That was just an attempt to alleviate the complaints about their Stu status, it didn't even matter anyway

big brain

Not only that but they SOUND old. Because it resonates with our own subconscious or what is old. That’s why good writers like Tolkien utilize that in his writing while GRRM doesn’t know jack shit and pulls them from Sunday morning cartoons cuz he’s a retard.

Will probably end in twenty minutes the same way they wrapped up the Japanese arc

>How do we make China a better villain?
>I know, they shove a bunch of minorities in camps
Fuck the writers of History, this is such a lazy cop out, like we haven't seen that before

>Old Zealand is actually called Zeeland
>spell it New Zealand
how'd that spelling error make it passed the editors?

>look up a bunch of ancient words
>glue some together, just straight-up copy the rest with maybe a vowel change and an accent here and there
>"behold, my new language!"
wow, genius, totally not something a 12 year old could do given enough time

>Africa-like continent
>is filled with half-ape people

Dare I say GRRM is our guy?

hm.... never exlpained drogon so thought it was goofy. actually how do people know dragons names and which are which?? this flew past me

>dragon flies through air
>is called Airon

the real strength of Tolkien was the metalinguistics to make it sound real

>b-b-but his tax policies
>DA DRAGON IS CALLED DROGON
>DA EAST IS EASTEROS, I MEAN ESSOS

>>the lands below sea level are called netherlands
Burger education everyone

Dragons in ASOIAF have different coloured scales and fire breath, it's really the only way they can be told apart

>falling for a frogposters bait
lurk moar

>named Snow
>is swarthy

Jesus fuck what fucking hackery

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It's even worse with the recent story arcs
>literally undefeated
>can't win a war against goatfuckers in a dustbowl

>it's an 'user gets angry at what he doesn't understand' episode
You're right, and everyone else is wrong. Tolkein's fame and success was a fluke, as is your lack of it. You're the player character, and your current understanding of the world is implicitly accurate.

The Japanese arc was shit because it was very plainly just copy pasted discount Germany. Xi and his emperor ambitions seem refreshing on the other hand.

>it's popular so it's good
bet you're a big fan of capeshit too, eh

they were just trying to pull a redemption arc, like when Luke loses to Vader, or the Avengers lose to Thanos.
They just never ended up fleshing out that story line, and ended up switching to another Middle East arc.

>GoTfag acts like hes above capeshit
DWAGONS
KWALEESI

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>writers decide they need to make the US plotline more interesting
>"I know, let's make their new leader a former reality tv star"
remember when this show was praised for its realism?

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>It's popular so it's bad
I bet you're a fan of shitting yourself and not showering.

>tolkiddie argues success means its good, inadvertently vindicating GoT of any criticism
based retard

I don't understand this thread. Martin's naming style is actually far more realistic than Tolkien's mumbo jumbo. Lands or countries are usually named after the people that inhabit them or some special landmark, or the ground/nature itself.

>isn't that just like when we made a movie star president? won't the audiences feel we're repeating ourselves?
>our target audience is too dumb to notice sir

>popularity = standing the test of time
O H
N O

>It is another Middle East chapter
Literally Berserk levels of hackery

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Nobody cares about tolkiens made up languages moron that isnt why the books are popular

No worse than when they did the crossover with Bedtime For Bonzo

His fate is one of the things that terrify me. Being locked inside my own body

His world building is exactly why it is so popular.

all countries are named after something in real life, dumb frogposter

>Land
>Named after the people that inhabit it
user...

>wins in every war they fight with the help of 100 other countries against 1
ftfy

hello brainlet

Tolkien's names are exactly like that too, the only difference is that there are other languages in his world which makes the names more interesting and gives them more historical context which you can't get from borrowing English.

I think this whole USA saga is just a prop for Israel to be the main character. There's subtle clues everywhere.

the map is just Britain with the top part cut off for fuck's sake

Israel arcs are kino while USA arcs are shit though

>Israel theories
Go to sleep Preston

>writers make Israel come back out of nowhere after thousands of years just because they wanted it for a new plotline

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>he doesn't like the thousands years long hero's journey
Top pleb, get out of my board.

you'll just have to wait to find out in the inevitable spin off™ in 2030

What is Mount Doom named after?

that's where the name comes from dumb cunt.

>the planet is called Earth
>the moon is called Moon

>Israel
>Hero
>Literally commits genocide during his first appearance
Wew

Jews were a mistake.

More like the term moon is derived from THE Moon.

>Sun is called "The Sun"

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Dick Evil

Americos

It was self defence against the easterlings, have not not read the lore?

That's a title. He's Morgoth.

>the enemy of Christ is called the ANTIchrist

>>>The planet is called Planetos
You can't make this shit up

Naming it Westeros makes sense if they discovered it west of their current location but the fact they have Essos and Sothoryos makes it seem like these countries were named by some third party that already knew the whole map. You wouldn't call it Essos or Sothoryos if you only knew that those locations existed.

No, the names comes the fact that it is down the Rhine, opposed to the Upperlands which were up the Rhine. Or is Niederösterreich/Lower Austria below sea level for you, you little faggot?

Oh boy, forced female quota. It's about time.

>guy's last name is black
>because his ancestor was a nigger
B r a v o

>fights against that
>manages to fuck him up and only die because you of an accidental slip
BRAVO, TOLKIEN, BRAVO.

NO MAN ON EARTH CAN MAKE IT FALL

Made me spit out my crab legs

well westeros was colonised from the east, and the names essos/sothyros don't actually appear in the main series and are really just fan-terms adopted by the lore books for convenience's sake

>Dickon

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The only real countries I have a problem with in Westeros are The Reach, The Vale, and The North. The Reach and The Vale for the same reason, are they the only reach or vale in Westeros? Won't it get confusing? Imagine if the Iron Islands were just called "The Islands". The vale The Vale is named after even has an actual name - Vale of Arryn - so why isn't the kingdom called Arryn. The North is fine for people in the south but why would Northerners call their own kingdom The North? To then the north is beyond the Wall.

Back to plebbit

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Its literally an exotic fantasy with a giant ice wall, you long. You really think he couldnt figure out how to call something Ireland or Essex?

>self defense
Lmao, the lengths Israelfags go to justify their 'hero'.

>The Ukraine
>The Netherlands
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands–Ukraine_relations

Idk, maybe the fact that it's a volcano?

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You do realize Britain's secession from the EU is likely going to cause a German Merkel-led European Trade War right?

Oh, so because it's a volcano, everyone is doomed? Genius writing.

What happens when a bastard has a kid? Shouldn't there be lots of Snows/Sands running around because their great-great-great grandfather was a bastard?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Isles

Can you really blame GRRM? Nobody can compare regarding languages to him.

Self defensive genocide

>Easterling greedy shits sell lands to Israeli's
>Easterling peasants get the shits and try and kill all the Israeli's
>Fail
>30 years later Israel beats up the Anglos enough to make them fuck off
>Easterlings try to start shit again
>Get absolutely raped
>Have the gall to pretend they were the victims
Israel might be the writers favorite but they also actually earned their place unlike the Chinks or Indians

Morgoth is sindarin and translates to "the black foe of the world" in common tongue.

Meh, anyone can invent a language. The problem is - what's the point? It serves no purpose for the reader and as for the writer - it makes shit way more complicated. Tolkien was just autistic and that's not praiseworthy.

Both have different linguistic roots though. Their names aren't even in the same language. Besides there is a place in Westeros also called the Marches and I'm fine with that.
>a pseudokingdom with an inconsistent name in multiple languages
ok

>Doitchland
>gay editor thinks the American audience will never get that name so he changes it to Germany
Mein gottenhagendaz.....................

Why do you suppose he has praise?

>Tolkien was just autistic and that's not praiseworthy.
Million people disagree with you so there.

You cant write a language

>England
>land of the Engs

yeah fuck consistency and good worldbuilding

>land of doitch
The wanted to give it some originality.

kinda stupidly clever

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That wasn't Israel's first appearance, you zoomer. I was referring to the genocide of Canaan. I don't care about the current writers trying to whitewash Israel story.

>so instead of calling me dragon in your tongue you'll be calling me dragon in some other tongue

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of course you can? Tolkien and thousands and other people have done just that

So why are people pretending a fantasy universe has to have literally the names of all the real places? The idea that it could be real but diffedent is ridiculous when theres only one reality and he'd have to copy its names to go by it.

>Villains collectively referred to by various names such as globalists, bankers, media, the 1%, Hollywood
>No one notices that they're all Jews
Are all the protagonists blind?

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That's been retconned you fucking secondary

>character is a cannibal
>literally named Hannibal

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He wrote it into a beleivable fantasy world and then told the modern epic with it. Dont be naive

Land of the Norf now

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Has nothing to do with consistency or worldbuilding. Imagine making a language for Westeros, Essos, Valyrian and all that other shit. Now imagine making the author make Dany speak Valyrian to this guy while making Jon Snow and the others speak in an entirely other language to another person. It would be extremely annoying for both the reader and the author to do. There are languages made for the TV show - White Walker, Valyrian, Dothraki - in the end it doesn't really enhance the experience all that much.

3 billion people think you're going to hell for not believing in the right god.

If the Common Tongue was brought over by the Andals why do people never conquered by them like da norf, Ironborn and Wildlings speak it? And why are all their placenames also in the Common Tongue? Are we expected to believe that there is no Old Tongue loanwords in the Common Tongue? And why is there no linguistic roots with the Andal homeland and their neighbours from Braavos and Pentos?

>common religion is literally created out of its founder being killed by another religion
>as soon as that other religion gets into power they try to destroy the religion whose founder they killed
Are the protagonists retarded?

5'11 vs 6'0

>using modern sjw lore
Lol, you probably support the modern Germany arc too, fag

Thats all well ans good but I can personally assert Tolkein is an amazing author, from experience and knowledge. Youve said nothing

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>fantasy show
>oh my GODS

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If it was GRRM it would be called The Volcano.

The only decent German arc was the Imperial arc, the Hitler arc was just a shit attempt to bring it back

I guess your head will explode when you find out what Australia actually means.

Jesus, he really was on another level than all the hack fantasy writers, wasn't he.

>people exist
>their name for themselves are evolved phonics that mean 'us people here'
Un fuckint believabke

Sit down :)

>building a language has nothing to do with world building
except, you know, practically everything.
You think Tolkien just came up with the Dunedain off the top off his head?
Creating a language will provide consistent and plausible naming conventions and just an all around deepness to flesh out the world.
GRRM dropped that entirely and good lord does it show. His naming convention is nothing but laughable in every way.
It is generic by even video game standards.

>germany tries to take over europe twice in a row
>after this, everyone else is fine in joining a """political union""" led by them
are we just supposed sit there and believe every other country is retarded? who writes this drivel

how does that change the fact that he invented a language? there are thousands of conlangs out there, why do you claim they dont exist?

>land has a lot of storms
>lets call it the Stormlands

>valley that can cause death
>we'll call it death valley

You personally cannot write a language. Thats all i said. You cant do it now. You'd have to learn

>writers decide too cater to a minority audience
>puts a nigger in the white house
fucking dropped it right there..

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Made me fumble my calamari

>make a fantasy setting
>its different from reality
Now hold on just a minute

Is this really in the show? I saw the gif and it looked like a comical stunt.

Arthur Dayne would have cut him in pieces

Yeah it was abrupt for effect

>Is this really in the show?
Yes, Tommen does indeed kill himself like a seasonal waifufag

>the planet is called planetos

Arthur Dayne got killed by a fucking frognigger with a spear

>The planet is called Planetos

Kentsex

He also completely ignores geography, but lets not open that can of worms

>A man from the sea and looks like a middleaged fisherman is called Davos Seaworth

DC Thanos is Dark Seid.
... pronounced Dark Side.
Why must DC be such shit?

>atheist man who is fine with men not ruling anymore
>is called the onions knight

I knew a guy with a prosthetic leg named Smith

Don't respond to a funny post with your comic book gayness

Saru man

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i think the Targaryen names are pretty based though.
>Rhaena
>Rhaenis
>Aegon
>Aeynis
>Jaehaernys
>Maegor
>Viserion
>Visenya
>Viserys

Daemon and Baelor are the best names though

Anus Targaryen

>elitist bloodline of ruthless invaders
>are called the Barb-aryans

>hmm what should i call the title for the eastern horse warlords
>i know lemme just change one letter in 'khan'

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Or rhymes with it at least

>a new town is called novgorod

>Chicago literally means "the stinky place" because the tribe they asked about it didn't want them going there to trade with a rival tribe
Little did those redskins know that the white man comes and goes as he damn well pleases.

>leave England
>call new settlement new england

everyone snarks about how Drogon is a dragon named Drogon, except that Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viserion are actually WYVERNS—they're quadrupeds, not hexapods, a distinction even a casual student of draconology could tell you so ha ha ha who's lame now,

don't care virgin

Have sex

wyverns don't breathe fire for the most part