Besides some bad dialogue and Jar-Jar why did people hate it so much?

Besides some bad dialogue and Jar-Jar why did people hate it so much?

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because it's star wars
star wars fans hate star wars

It didnt have the same tone and atmosphere as the OT. Imagine being completely in love with the OT and going to see this in theaters when it came out. It would feel like a spinoff with Obiwan, R2D2, and C3PO thrown in. However everything that it set up mattered in the next two movies unlike the sequel trilogy.

>why did people hate it so much?
Autism.

because its obring

people typically dont watch star wars for trade politics

Watch the Plinkett review, everything is explained there
and before some retards start meme-ing: Bring counter-arguments to the table instead of buzzwords and autism

>Besides some bad dialogue and Jar-Jar why did people hate it so much?
1. We got child Anakin when everyone wanted clone wars Anakin.
2. "Too much Jar-Jar" also meant "not enough Obi-Wan" was a consquence.
3. The story was a bit dull and oddly paced. It didn't really earn the big spectacle in the finale.
4. The finale itself was a disappointment. The ground battle was ruined by Jar Jar's slapstick, the space battle was ruined by forcing Anakin into it, turning the whole thing into a joke, and the palace infiltration plotline was so boring no one even remembers it. The only good part was the lightsaber battle.

Plinket is a dunkey tier critic, who is only good for laughs.

The trailers made it look as good or maybe even better than the OT so it was a massive disappointment, especially with the impossible to meet expectations of people who grew up on Star Wars mythology and were now adults. It really was not a bad movie in its own right especially compared to AotC or TLJ.

I agree, however I will say the Plinkett critiques don't necessarily reflect overall opinions on the movie. It dwells mostly on the bad stuff and exaggerates a bit for effect.

It's fucking boring.

>child Anakin
Arguably the worst thing about the movie. I was the same age when I watched the movie and I hated him and his stupid Yippee! and "R u an angel duuurrrr?" Lucas what were you thinking?!

Story was a bore besides the action. Ole George boy should have started with Anakin as at an age that mirrored his son in the first Star Wars. No chosen one bullshit, but instead a highly skilled Jedi that worked in tandem with Obi Wan as good friends.

the prequel atmosphere was superior. OT atmosphere was nerdy junk

>Bring counter-arguments to the table instead of buzzwords and autism
Why are RLMfags so hypocritical?

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Because they watched some fat guy on youtube ramble about it for hours

Yeah, Anakin was bad, Jar Jar and the gungans were bad. Neither one was bad enough to ruin the movie on it’s own, but together it was just too much.
Cutting to Jar Jar slapstick really ruined the climax, which is a shame since it’s the best lightsaber fight of the series.
Also the CGI has not held up well, and some of the actors really didn’t do well onscreen talking to characters like Jar Jar.

It felt like it was a completely different universe than the OT. It didn't have the same feel as the OT at all. There was absolutely zero chemistry between the main characters. The dialogue seemed like it was written for a junior high play. The ships and technology looked like it was from way in the future, rather than 30 years in the past. All the bullshit with Anakins mother made no sense at all and felt like last minute script changes. The whole PT is a mess and feels completely unrelated to the OT. It's amazing how the ST was able to be even worse than the PT.

Import tariffs are a weird subject for a kids movie

When Phantom Menace came out, people liked it and the movie made a lot of money. Jake Lloyd's acting bothered people more than Jar-Jar ever did.

Initially they hated it because it strayed way too far in tone from the original trilogy. Little did the people watching know that it would be the closest film to the OT out of anything that came out after it. It was also a very slow almost boring film if you think about it, there was no real main protagonist, and nobody felt like a human being. It was visually very pretty though. I liked this the most out of all the prequel films desu.

>7th Heaven in space
I'd like to make Lucas watch every season of that show, stuffing his face with chips and asking him if he's up for another episode

This is not the case. There was a widespread feeling it didn’t live up to the massive hype. People criticized not only Anakin and Jar Jar, but the whole trade war premise.

>t. zoomer obsessed with internet drama and e-celebs

You and your 8 year old friends liked it. The backlash was immediate.

because anakin, the centerpiece of the entire Star Wars saga was a 10 year old cringemeister who did nothing the whole movie except be gay

and they killed off darth maul, the only cool villain Star Wars ever had

Because people expected mindless schlock like the OT and Lucas gave them kino instead, they couldn’t comprehend it.

It's timely, considering that Trump's Administration is considering implementing them on China.

By definition, the protagonist is Qui-Gon.

>MFW I love the prequels as much as I love the OT and only had a few issues with the prequels that didn't ruin the movies for me
>MFW Christian Hayden actually did his job being Anakin Skywalker very well and did an amazing job depicting how a real person (At like age 18-19) would react to literal soul shattering events
>MFW Jar-Jar wasn't even that annoying
>MFW I will receive endless shit for having the superior opinion

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yeah part of me wonders whether Lucas' attempts to mollify the fans didn't backfire and contribute to the next movies being even worse. If there was some grand plan for Jar-Jar for example, he might have been more tolerable in the next movie.

Not entirely wrong. I didn't even know the prequels were hated until I started using the internet more.
Also this

Do you know when this movie came out, user?

technically correct but he's a very atypical protagonist so it's not surprising he's not recognized as one.

Pod racing was pretty cool.

20 years ahead of his time, I'd wager

Because it's not OT

seriously people wanted to see same old shit instead of something new
this is also why sequels fucked up

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The movie also has a secret secondary protagonist in Jar-Jar.

Jar-Jar completes a hero journey but he's not the protagonist

failing to do anything new is one of the biggest problems with the sequels faggot.
The problem isn't that they tried new shit, the problem is that they were just so fucking terrible at copying the OT.

>People criticized not only Anakin and Jar Jar, but the whole trade war premise.
Did you think the movie would start a serious discussion on NAFTA and trade deficits in the MSM? TPM didn't even address this issue at length

I was 7 and I remember people complaining about it. I was looking forward to it for what felt like ages and eventually wound up enjoying The Mummy a lot more.

Everyone knows Liam Neeson as Qui-Gon was the main star of PM. He’s always been seen as the protagonist and he has more screentime than anybody.

thanks for proving that you really have no arguments

A trade disagreement was the catalyst of the whole film. The bad guys were literally called The Trade Federation

the original Star Wars was a hero's journey about a boy who loses his family, goes off on an adventure, and saves the galaxy by becoming a fighter pilot.

The Phantom Menace is a story about a trade dispute, where several unrelated characters try to figure out why a bunch of stick figure robots are on Naboo, with an intermission where a little kid drives a race car.

>why did people hate it so much?
they didnt, it wasnt hated until the Plinkett review got popular on reddit
if you hate this movie you gotta go back
hell Roger Ebert gave it a thumbs up

I don’t even know what the Plinkett review is. It’s always been unpopular. The Simpsons did a whole spoof of Lucas and the prequels in 2004, way before reddit was a thing.
I know Yea Forums skews young, but do people seriously not remember all the shit the prequels got? The only one that got a warm reception was RotS.

Well start supplying your own fucking arguments anytime instead of just hurling some meme-review our way.

Provide an argument, and let's begin.

>Portman never takes her clothes off
>The CGI usage was shit
>Lack of tension

Seriously, by the end of the Episode III I was asking myself what the other two episodes were even about. I was also cheering for Palpatine because he seemed to be the only one with any kind of brain and ambition. When your bad guy is more relatable than your hero, your movie has a problem (unless it's intentional, but Lucas can't write).

the point is, user says this:
>It was also a very slow almost boring film if you think about it, there was no real main protagonist, and nobody felt like a human being. It was visually very pretty though.
And it's a reasonable thing to say no matter what you fucking autists have to say about it.

Those scenes were kino as fuck, piss off

god you internet-obsessed fags are so retarded. I guarantee you aren't more than 25 years old and have no clue what the general reaction to the prequels was among fans of the originals

Poorly written
Poorly directed
Etc

The death knell of soul, the harbinger of commercialization. Only 90s born queers will defend it

>nerdy junk
That describes all of Star Wars, like it or not.

>The death knell of soul
For film that is, Vidya still has soul

Old fans liked it. Reviewers thought it would give them street cred to summarily hate it. Idiots parrot the reviewers.

>Old fans liked it.
no they didn't
they were divided

It had enough nice ideas to make you annoyed when some annoying shit came out to distract you.

>Old fans liked it.
You have to be underage to believe this.

>Bad dialogue
>Jar-jar
>Bad acting (not all around, but mostly)
>Badly written

All it has going for it is cool moments and good music.
>cool light-saber duel at the end interspersed with a boring infiltration, weak space-battle, and boring Jar-jar battle scene
>cool podrace

4>5>6>1>7>Solo>3>2>8

If your argument is "listen to this critic, he explains it all for me because I don't know how to" you have nothing bad to say about the movie, you're just a shill

Why do underage fags parrot dumb shit like these posts?
Someone somewhere must be peddling this.

go suck more dicks on reddit kid, im a 40 year old boomer shitposing here on the job
everyone enjoyed the prequels I saw each one in a different city and burguers were clapping and cheering in each one
in conclusion suck my dick
citing post season 9 simpsons for anything lmao
you're the underage fag, im one of the oldest faggots here

It was interesting how everyone that claimed to dislike it, were the ones oblivious to the fact that Palpatine was the emperor, and the people that liked the movie were already aware of him and where it was going.

Best light saber fight in entire saga.
Best score in entire saga.

Fucking fight me.

dumb larper.

>Best light saber fight in entire saga.
youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw

>Best score in entire saga.
I agree. It was the only good thing.

I honestly have no idea. I also heard someone recently say that one of the things people didn’t like about the prequels were the lightsaber fights being overdone, which I’ve never heard before in my life.
Idk if that’s a RLM thing or what, i’ve never spent a half hour watching those

>It dwells mostly on the bad stuff
Most of the movie IS bad stuff in retrospect, user.

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This guy is 40 and posting on Yea Forums. Why the fuck would you admit that?

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Star wars sucks.
All of it.

I liked it more than the rest of the prequels. To me it really felt somehow like the original trilogy thanks to the fantastic score of John Williams (his last memorable score of a Star Wars movie), the locations, and the use of a lot of practical effects. Also, it was shot on film, unlike the rest of the prequels, which added to that feeling of old school adventure movie.

I watched it on movie theater and everybody was dissapointed but still quite liked it (or at least some features of the movie). Anyway, when Attack of the Clones was relased, now that was REALLy awful. It was so bad and looked so fake and plastic that it made me skip watching Revenge of the Sith on cinemas.

>Besides the movie being shit, why did people hate it so much?

Annoying as fuck that the final battle is cut up like that, the intro with Maul standing in the doorway was hype.

midichlorians

>Best score in entire saga.
That’s not RotS.

>Badly written
Like RotJ?

Because people who enjoy free speech have little to nowhere else to go. Also, fuck you.

People hated it to a billion dollars.

nah there are some good parts.
like I said it's mostly all valid criticism but I watched it again recently and find it to be a nice casual easy and beautiful movie to watch that my 3-year old kid would also enjoy.

>im a 40 year old boomer
same apparently you just have shit taste
I knew from the minute it came out that it wasn't very good. If you can't tell that there's something wrong when the movie ends with a child accidentally blowing up a spaceship controlling all the buffoon battle droids that are in a battle on the surface with slapstick comedy and Jar Jar binks I don't know what to say.

worse
also wrapping up a trilogy has completely different constraints than setting up a prequel trilogy so they are very hard to compare.
Its okay though, dumb people are usually happier in life.

because prequels are for high iq only and 99% of people are low iq

horrific cgi

You first, buddy.

I enjoy shitposting here instead of on the social goyim sites
also im literally getting paid while im here unlike some folks who do it for free

sounds to me like youre some faggot who doesnt know how to have fun, yikes buddy take it easy

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i bet you complain about anime in betweens

Go dig up some old forums you zooming retard.

It's poorly made in just about every way except fight choreography, sound and visual design.

what's shit about this scene?

It was soulless, the actors were either bad or poorly directed or both and thus every performance was wooden and emotionless, the plot made little sense, all the cgi, while mostly good (aside from some shitty kiddy cgi like from the pod racing casters for example) was bland and too sanitized so the world felt like a bare theatre stage at best, the choreography of the lightsaber fights was shit and emotionless and the fight had to stop multiple times for emotional content to be wedged into the scenes (contrast this with rotj and esb scenes where you could see character changes in the fight itself, I.e. Luke's flipout or Vader fucking around one handed in esb)

In addition to all this it's just a shit Star Wars story, they somehow watered down a classic adventure series into a wooden, bland slog of a movie with zero content aside from flashing lights and a vulgar slapstick puppet

>and before some retards start meme-ing
A number of his arguments aren't arguments (OT characters good, TPM characters bad! See, OT fans agree!) and a number of them are wrong ("there aren't any practical effects").

>Vader swings at shit where Luke is nowhere near
>Luke hits Vader directly in the fucking neck, but sparks fly from the shoulder
>Vader cuts those antennas but the lightsaber isn't long a enough to reach them

Like the file name says, it's all shit when you slow it down. Neither this nor the TPM fight is mean to be watched at 10 frames per second. It's stage combat.

>thurrr he movie critics told me to hate it

>unless it's intentional
It obviously is. Palpatine is everything the devil archetype is: smart, charismatic and he grows more powerful the more moral failures his opposition commits.