So this fucking faggot being a Baratheon is literally just a hunch. It's literally gossip...

The books will never be finished so the show is canon now you fucking bookfaggot, deal with it.

Incel Lannister

Cersei was raping him, he wasn't an incel.

>Cersei was raping him
Yeah, """"""""raping""""""""""

twow will be, you cynical shitfuck

Involuntarily noncelibate

I though the old red witch lady said her spells can only work with royal blood or some shit

I thought his name was Gendry

>be rich and powerful with the blood of the dragon
>be a noble and fearsome warrior
>be a poet and a musician
>win a tournament
>crown lyanna queen of love and beauty over your own wife
>she is betrothed to a braindead brute who does nothing but drink beer and fuck whores all day
>she runs off with the WAY better option
>ned+robert: "hE kIdNapPed aNd RaPed hEr"
i mean give me a fucking break

What if she was lying

>Name a bigger fucking dopey ass friendzoned faggot than Robert Baratheon.
I can name several
>Jorah
>Jaime
>Littlefinger

Even Tyrion and Varys are more intimidating than these guys and Jorah is the only one who can compete.

That's not how it works. Breaking marriage is a very big deal

Brandon is the first to believe she was kidnapped. He hated Rhaegar ever since he gave her the crown of roses, which he saw as an insult to her honor. Besides, this isn't modern day, Lyanna can't just run off with another dude if her father has arranged her to be betrothed to another, it's still a big issue.

>a better man
an actual man I would say, not the equivalent of a horny 12 old boy in the body of an adult.

bobby b was just a a pair of testicles with no brain.

maybe but ADOS certainly won't. It's been 8 years since the last book. He is already 70. Dude has been at it 25 fucking years. bit off way more than he can chew, there are far too many main/significant characters and storylines. GRRM doesn't know how they all end much less how to weave them all together. He originally said it would be 3 years, then he said it would be before season 6 (3 years ago now). Now every time people ask he says he is busy producing other shit and says some vague nonsense like "writing is going well". He is stalling. He's a hack. Accept it. The ending D&D gave you is the only one you will ever receive.

The Starks thought they're daughter would have been smart and honorable enough to know that breaking one's betrothal vow to run off with a married family man to sully her and her family's name was a bad idea, or that if she did choose to go down that terrible path that she would have at least left a goddamn note.

Turns out (as per the show), they were wrong.

Who friendzoned Jaime?

>an actual man
Rhaegar is the dude that completely abandoned his wife and children to go fuck some Northern pussy.

She was lying, but she actually believed her own bullshit because Rhllor made her think she mattered to him with very few and far between gifts of magic like when she poisoned that old dude or waited until the last second to light the pyres. The Lord of Light had much less respect for her and valued her less than say Beric or Kinvarra. Melly was his play thing.

>Who friendzoned Jaime?
His sister every single time he left to go do literally anything other than fuck her in his free time.

cucking someone isn't the same as friendzoning them.

He got brotherzoned, not quite the same thing.

What is worse Rhaegar having an affair to make Jon or Bronn marrying a fat woman for shekels? Serious question. I hated Bronn toward the end but am also torn as somewhat of a Danyfag after all this.

what's wrong with Bronn marrying a fat woman for some shekels? nobody else was going to marry lolly stokesworth and he treats her nicely.

>brotherzoned
Well this is why they say not to act upon incestuous fantasies in the first place. You never quite get rid of them. It's like fucking a coworker, but your kids may turn out retarded because of it too.

>and he treats her nicely
I am not an avid bookfag, does he even live in his own lands at any point in the story? In a way his absence can be considered altruistic.

He barely ever is with Lollys. Though she's pregnant of a boy that'll be named Tyrion (not by Bronn.)

Yup, he lives on Stokesworth land. I kind of assumed treats her nicely, as Bronn has no reason to be mean to her, though we never really see them together. We just hear tales about how Bronn kills off the former Lord of the castle and is now Lord Stokesworth.

It's pretty mean to marry someone you will spend as little time with as possible because their dad offered you their weight in currency. But fucking off after that is at most, (or least?) polite. Even if she can't actually run the place herself and is at the mercy of her court at any given moment.

>people honestly defending a family that'd been marrying brother and sister for generations
Targshits out!

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>be bobby b
>be such a fucking pathetic excuse for a man that not even some horse faced northern broad wants anything to do with you
>runs off with a beautiful man better than you in every single way except maybe just brute strength
>raise a rebellion and wage an illegitimate war to soothe your bruised ego
>results in your loathesome wife cucking you with a boar and your entire house going extinct and all of your best friends being killed
>in the end the kingdom is fractured and what remains is ruled by an autistic cripple, a drunken dwarf, and a greasy cutthroat
>westeros is inevitably plunged into an era of balkanization and war, poverty and famine, and general chaos
pottery

>entire house going extinct
pretty sure that happened when Cersei kept having blonde kids who were mentally ill

>It's pretty mean to marry someone you will spend as little time with as possible
He spends plenty of time with her though, he lives in her castle. At no point does he fuck off, unless you mean in the show, in which yeah he does fuck off.

>>>reddit

>No one ever mentions how Robert was fucking right.

Also, you're confusing Roose Bolton with Bronn. Bronn never got offered her weight in currency, just the fact that she was a Highborn lady was enough for him.

Doesnt mean Stannis or Renly couldnt have fathered sons. Roberts actions ultimately lead to their deaths as well. He destroyed his own house because he couldnt accept that he is literally a beta male.

as I said I didn't read the books, not past the second one, and in retrospect I guess it was the right decision. because that shit is not going to get written after like 4 years lol.

not really, the war of the usurper wouldve happened regardless of what robert felt. perhaps he should've been more attentive to Cersei/Jaime and realized the incest for himself though

>not marrying your sister to prevent your noble bloodline and superior genes being diluted by shit eating subhumans

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would you really want either of those characters to reproduce in this story when we already had to endure the likes of Viserys, Ramsay and Euron?

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>a pair of testicles
canon wise he had a big dick too, unlike the dragon prince.

You actually think a woman had a say? Or Rhaegar for that matter, being married with children to a princess of Dorne? She should have aired her displeasure with the Robert engagement to her father or brother. Instead she just ran off, acting like a braindead commoner. And Rhaegar is even worse since he just ditched his wife, a princess of Dorne. Wars are declared over less. It's a classic tragic romance trope, but everyone except those two (blinded by love bla bla) act rationally in the situation

why do you think he was a drunk? why do you think he outright said he hated being king and hated having any connection to a sisterfucking kingslayer who was related to Tywin?

whats wrong with stannis

because he was a glutton who enjoyed fighting and tourneys not administrative duty. this had nothing to do with him being sad about lyanna, he was always like this.

what isn't wrong with Stannis?

robert's rebellion actually started when mad king demanded ned and bobby b's head after killing rickard and brandon

I mean dumb and dumber did him dirty but he's actually based as fuck desu

>this had nothing to do with him being sad about lyanna
this is true which is why he begged Ned to help him with leadership, which was stupid, because they were both awful leaders (and so was Stannis for completely different, equal but opposite reasons (autism))

renly unironically could have done a better job

Ned wasn't an awful leader, he just wasn't really entrenched in KL politics and was thrust into a situation he had no allies in. All things considered he did an okay job given what he had to work with. It's not his fault that Cersei's assassination plan went off without a hitch the very day he found out about the incest.

Brandon Stark was arrested for threatening the life of the crown prince -- he rode to KL and demanded at the gates that Rhaegar come face him and die. Rickard was summoned to attend Brandon's trial. If Robert the Incel had simply accepted he was a faggot beta male and Lyanna wanted that good Targ dick instead, Brandon would never have thought she was "kidnapped and raped", never would have gone to challenge Rhaegar, and never would have been executed along with his father.

well, the whole kings blood spell Melisandre and Stannis did worked out...
but they're both dead...
i guess Bran could time travel and see if Robert really did fuck Gendry's mom but he probably couldn't prove it to anyone else

Robert wasn't the one who told Brandon that Lyanna was kidnapped, Brandon assumed that himself. So yes, he would've gone off to do that regardless of Robert's personal opinion, and breaking a betrothal is still a huge deal regardless of love.

how is it bobby's fault? brandon was the retard who asked for rhaegar's head, rickard and the rest of their bannermen got dragged along.

ned idealized the North as independent when reality hit him and Rob came to him and said "dude I really need your help, I need all your wine and your hookers right now" he realized he was not only at his own lord's mercy but the entire realm, Ned caved like a pastry while Rob knowingly drank himself to death waiting for an assassination and put up the bare minimum effort to appear as if he gave a shit.

ironically his methods about killing traitors/deserters was passed on to Jon and Dany by proxy.

also forgot to add that brandon was on his way to marry tullyfuckingshits but he heard the news of lyanna suddenly disappearing with rhaegar so he decided to go straight to kings landing, bobby b has nothing to do with his decision.

can't really blame the guy for wanting to help his friend, besides Cat is the one that pushed him to it he was originally going to decline. Ned even tried to resign and leave when he saw what a shit Robert was.

that's the things, they were friends but neither of them were prepared for the shitstorm that Tywin only had to allow by letting his kids keep fucking each other.

>be targshit
>be homicidal maniac
>die
OH NO NO NO NO

he was 100% right in literally every way
he was certainly an imperfect character, but he had a warrior's intuition
when the whore needs to die, the whore needs to die
Ned might've been too weak to kill the whore, but Jon finished the job.
And as Ned said, Stark blood ran through Jon's veins.

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>heard news of lyanna suddenly disappearing
no he didnt. he heard news that she had been kidnapped. She eloped and incel roberts immediate reaction was she must have been kidnapped because there is no way a useless faggot like him could ever be cucked

either way you swing it it doesnt make sense -- why wouldnt they send a raven and be like yo lyanna whats up are you being raped right now? and she would have been like nah. the whole thing is fucking stupid.

In the books Robert has like 8 confirmed bastards.

and they all die horribly except Gendry. remember Littlefinger's talk with one of his hookers?

>noble bloodline
>depigmented shitskins from across the narrow sea
what did he mean by this?

in case you don't
youtube.com/watch?v=3PPgEBG-eDc

Robert wasn't the one who sent the letter to Brandon. How would news of Lyanna's disappearance have reached Robert in the Vale first? Brandon, of his own volition decided she had been kidnapped, and he had always hated Rhaegar so it was not at all a big leap for him. Robert had nothing to do with it.
>why wouldnt they send a raven and be like yo lyanna whats up are you being raped right now?
For one, they didn't even know where Lyanna was, two if she was being kidnapped and raped how the fuck do you think she would reply to a raven.

But none of them were legitimized. So unless you can unequivocally prove that Gendry is one of his bastards AND he is legitimized as a Baratheon, House Baratheon is extinct.

>even if gendry is his bastard, he was legitimized by daenerys which is null and void since she wasnt the legitimate ruler of the seven kingdoms

Mya is still alive ya simp

>she wasnt the legitimate ruler of the seven kingdoms
Nobody was, for most of the story. Again right by conquest.

they could have sent a raven to KL asking whats going on, where is rhaegar and lyanna... everything would have become clear

True but even I forgot about her trying to make sense of this bullshit. Also she apparently took after daddy and would rather fuck off than assume power that can't be held.

bro, brandon is a known hothead he wouldn't bother with that kind of shit

house baratheon was legitimized as lords of the stormlands by aegon the conqueror. daenerys conquered nothing. house baratheon is now extinct because of roberts bad judgement.

>they could have sent a raven to KL asking whats going on
He's under the impression his sister has been kidnapped and raped. What kind of cuck sends a raven to patiently ask what's going on? What would stop them from just lying about it? Also, nobody in KL had any clue what the fuck was happening anyway. Even if they told the truth, it could still start a war because broken betrothals are a huge deal regardless of love.
This is completely retarded.

>Number of Lords of House Baratheon
>1
>Number of Lords of House Targshit
>0

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>lyanna goes missing
>brandon magically decides "SHE MUST HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED BY RHAEGAR" when she literally could have just been like picking raspberries in the countryside
youre telling me you dont see any flaw in this story

She went missing with Rhaegar, and Brandon always hated Rhaegar, thinking his crown to her at the tourney was a huge insult to her honor. It's not exactly a leap.

>he's under the impression his sister has been kidnapped and raped
Again, what gave him that impression if not Robert? All they know is she is missing. If your friend is late to lunch do you assume they have been kidnapped, tortured, and murdered? No. You inquire.
>nobody in KL had any clue what the fuck was happening anyway
They could have found out easily where Rhaegar was and what the deal was.

You're grasping at straws to defend an inherently flawed series of events that no reasonable individual would ever consider realistic in any way.

have you read the books? rhaegar gave lyanna that dumb crown despite his wife being there and lyanna being betrothed

> daenerys conquered nothing
Regardless, whatever she was supposed to own she set of fire and was enough of a maniac to get her own nephew and fuck toy to murder her but that doesn't seem like bobby's fault.

if they'd read the books they wouldn't be targshitters, now would they?

>noncelibate
>A fucking nonce

> All they know is she is missing.
No, he knows she went missing with Rhaegar, Rhaegar had a thing for Lyanna, and that he hates Rhaegar.
>They could have found out easily where Rhaegar was and what the deal was.
No they couldn't have. Literally nobody knew what Rhaegar was planning aside from his Kingsguard, who went with him.

>You're grasping at straws to defend an inherently flawed series of events that no reasonable individual would ever consider realistic in any way.

How is it grasping? All Brandon knows is that the dude that was creeping on his sister suddenly went missing with her and she didn't leave any notice. It sounds like a kidnapping.

You forgot Ser Davos who will satnd behind Gendry's claim

>rhaegar gave lyanna that dumb crown despite his wife being there and lyanna being betrothed
This is the real issue
Both of them were promised toanother
Seven Hells, Rhaegar already had a kid

>muh superior genes
>every other child is a fucking lunatic

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>every other child is a fucking genius

you think the king doesnt know where his kingsguard are?

>Name a bigger fucking dopey ass friendzoned faggot than Robert Baratheon.
Jorah
wew that was hard

I fucking love Davos but within the context of the story who can take him seriously? Most of the effort he puts into daily life goes into not appearing as if he is illiterate. One of my favorite characters but god damn.

Also who thinks pic related should have been played by James Purefoy?

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she wasn't late to lunch she went missing for days while betrothed to another man

Given that he didn't know where Rhaegar was, and that the Kingsguard seemed more loyal to Rhaegar than the King, yes I think that Aerys didn't know where his kingsguard are.

the price you pay for greatness. mutts will never understand

jorah didnt plunge westeros into chaos and directly cause the extinction of his house and the deaths of everyone he loved over his friendzoning

>incest gud

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you think the kingsguard dont regularly report to the king, regardless of how they feel about the king?

Given that Aerys had no clue what was going on, no I don't think they did.

>i guess Bran could time travel and see if Robert really did fuck Gendry's mom but he probably couldn't prove it to anyone else
This

If anyone doubts god-emperor Bran, he could go back in time and describe exactly how their father fucked their mother, and describe in detail every birthmark on their mom's ass.

Sure, Bran could be lying, but do you really want Bran laying out all your dirty laundry in public?

how the fuck would they report? they don't have cell phones you think they had a bunch of KL ravens in the tower of joy?

this is objectively wrong. they HAVE to, they are his sworn kingsguard. you are so fucking gay and stupid never post here again

yeah just like Jaime was sworn to defend his King as well. If they were so much more loyal to Aerys they would've been with him or with his armies, not defending Rhaegar's hidden bastard child. And how the fuck would they report? You're acting as if they can text him or something, it's possible they just never came across a place with KL ravens.

>you think they had a bunch of KL ravens in the tower of joy?
I suspect the probably did have ravens at the tower and in any case people travel with ravens. You think in a time where it takes weeks to get anywhere on foot/horseback they are just out of contact? No.

except jaime was literally the only kingsguard who betrayed aerys. i dont know why youre confused about kingsguard defending the crown prince? as if they were defending him instead of the king by choice because they didnt like the king? the kingsguard protect the entire royal family

Mya, Edric, and Bella are all still alive. Robert has 3 living bastards (more are rumored) and Gendry has been legitimized.

Why would a random tower have ravens in it? It wasn't a castle, it didn't have a maester.
>and in any case people travel with ravens
It's unlikely Rhaegar did, given that he had no maester with him and was a small party.

>only maesters can send ravens
you are fucking stupid

>except jaime was literally the only kingsguard who betrayed aerys
There are plenty of Kingsguard throughout history who aren't perfect on keeping their oaths.
>i dont know why youre confused about kingsguard defending the crown prince?
Jon wasn't the Crown Prince, Rhaegar was and he was at the Trident not the Tower of Joy and Aerys the King ahead of that.

False. He helped a Targshit. Specifically the Targshit who burnt down the capital just as her father wished to do. Or do you not know what the kingslayer meant when he said "burn them all" back in season 1?

Maesters tend to the ravens you dumb fuck. In the newest chapter Stannis asks the Karhold maesters where they sent their ravens to find out the Karholds are betraying him, and Sam tends the maesters at Castle Black. Knights don't just carry ravens with them. Someone else can send a raven, but they wouldn't just bring a bunch of ravens without a maester.

no but the crown prince would have ordered them to remain at the tower. they cant ignore that order

Mya will never be legitimized, shes the whore of the vale now.

for the lore illiterates
youtube.com/watch?v=k1zsvHusfPQ

The kingsguard regularly were dispatched to guard family members, even paramours and mistresses. It's a non-issue, look at how spread out tommens kingsguard is.

And can he not order them not to inform anyone about the fact that he eloped? Again it was made quite clear in the books the Kingsguard were far more loyal to him than they were his father.

What is so bad about Gendry? What is even one wrong thing about Gendry? I am seriously confused about Arya's decision to die at sea rather than become queen of Dragonstone when that's the only fucking thing I was looking forward to.

>knights dont have squires or attendants
whether its in the books/show or not, its fucking stupid for the crown prince of westeros and half of the kingsguard to travel around without any way of sending/receiveing correspondence. this is unrealistic and stupid. the king would not have sent off half his kingsguard to do whatever the fuck without being able to get in touch with them and the prince wouldnt wander about the kingdoms without any way to call for aid in case of emergency, rebellion, etc.

>I am seriously confused about Arya's decision to die at sea rather than become queen of Dragonstone
((($$$$$$$$$$$$)))

he is not fit to lead like bobby b

Well he did help Daenerys which brought her to Westeros, along with death and destruction.
But yeah, he did not wipe out his own house, they managed that on their own. His betafaggotry only brought shame, dishonor and financial ruin to the Mormonts. Not sure it makes him any better than Bobby.

Birds are not cell phones

>even if gendry is his bastard, he was legitimized by daenerys which is null and void since she wasnt the legitimate ruler of the seven kingdoms

Nah, the line of monarchs that were illegitimate were Joffrey, Tommen, and Cersei (meaning Westeros can also write off its debts to the Iron Bank), and that side lost the war in the end. The surviving lords of the great houses are ones who supported Dany's claim and were on the winning side in the war. The ending has pretty much everyone accepting that she was legitimate, though they're not too upset about her getting shanked by the coward Jon Snow as she was a psycho Targshitter.

youre arguing an absurd hypothetical. why would rhaegar WANT people to think he kidnapped lyanna rather than the fact that she eloped, triggering a war and a rebellion? he wouldnt and you are fucking dumb

>>knights dont have squires or attendants
Squires are never seen or implied to attend to ravens, again, this is a job for maesters. If Rhaegar had brought a bunch of ravens with him, he would've brought a maester to tend to him.
> its fucking stupid for the crown prince of westeros and half of the kingsguard to travel around without any way of sending/receiveing correspondence
Unless they were doing something secret or otherwise illicit they wanted to keep secret. Again it's made very clear in the books the Kingsguard are far more loyal to Rhaegar than they are to Aerys.

>Arya's decision to die at sea rather than become queen of Dragonstone
she's a strong, independent black woman who don't need no man

I bet you like to see all those $$$ in a row you warlock nigger but Dragonstone also happens to be the second best castle to own next to the eyrie which was ripe for the taking.

you are actually dumb

He wouldn't, however he also wouldn't want people to know that she eloped.
>triggering a war and a rebellion
Fuck off. Why do you retards keep assuming this is modern day? Them eloping regardless of love would trigger a war. Betrothals are a big deal. It's likely not something Rhaegar wanted to be known about at all.

First that was not what happened...
There were rumors about rhaegar kidnapping Lyanna so neds father and brother went to confront the mad King and got executed for that, after that he commanded jon arryn to give up bobby and Ned and he refused and raised their bannermans instead, starting the rebellion

No, I am drunk. I can do as well as you can at anything while shitfaced.

I'm talking about the kike show writers you dimwit

nah m8 you are actually fucking stupid. the story is seriously flawed and all you can point to is things WITHIN the fucking flawed story to defend the flawed story

Oh but now that the show is over everything is fair game, this conversation was stupid to begin with so I might as well ask you to point to the part of the doll where you got hurt. This story is a clusterfuck and you know it so stop trying to "win" when the whole fucking thing is a joke.

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no I am not an unironic Dany fag. I know people like that, they're fucking insane.

Robert never loved Lyanna, he loved the idea of Lyanna. He was betrothed to her and that made her his, then Rhaegar took what was his so he smashed his ribs to pieces with a warhammer. Nigger can't even remember what Lyanna looked like, it was never really about her for Bobby.

You're right. While you guys were getting bent over for hundreds of years by your monarchies, we were already trying to figure out how to massively cuck Englel. Keep telling yourselves it's a more noble way of life, though. You guys being such betas is what makes it possible for us to walk all over you in foreign policy. Wouldn't want to change that.

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Ned's dad and bro went to the capital to confront rhaegar, not Aerys. Aerys was paranoid as fuck and had them both killed. He then commanded Jon Arryn to cut execute Ned and Robert and send him both of their heads.
Robert did nothing wrong. Aerys was a fucking lunatic and planned to burn down all of King's Landing with wildfire if he were to lose control of it. He eventually ordered it done("burn them all") and Jaime Lannister came to the rescue and killed the inbred.

wikichads rise up

Yet "people" say the Red Wedding was wrong

the red wedding is seen as wrong for violating guest right if the freys just left robert's side and sided with the lannisters people wouldn't have as much of an issue with them

imagine having a nigger brain that thinks up this ridiculous nigger thoughts lol

> An illiterate criminal swears he heard about it third hand.

Yeah, no.

Is what Jon did worse then what Jamie did?

>it's stupid that people conspiring in secret aren't broadcasting their intentions
No, you're stupid.

> Iron Bank writing off the debt.

In the show, didn't (((they))) say they never write off, they just go after whoever wins?

The thing that ultimately shits me the most is that one of the reasons Rhaegar even banged Lyanna was to give to Azor Ahai/The Prince Who Was Promised a chance to exist. Same reason he learned to fight. he thought it was going to be him, then realised it would be someone of his bloodline but not with his current wife.

Which is why having Arya kill the Night King is such a fucking letdown and asspull. Narratively in the show, Jon serves no purpose after returning to life. Literally none. March on Winterfell? Northern lords under Sansa, with cavalry from the start, Davos still gets Dany to come north, Varys poisons Dany, blah blah blah. There is literally nothing he is uniquely suited to do because everything else could be done by someone else. In the books he probably dies of his wounds after defeating the Others and this time goes to eternal rest, but that was one of the really shit things they chose with the show.

Checkhov's glowing sword. Or ballista.

I’m just angry my Hot Pie/Arya ship didn’t work out

hot pie didn't get that name for nothing

Arya clearly always wanted Gendry.

FUCKING DO IT ALREADY AND STOP TALKING SHIT
talk shit get hit

Yep, because you would totally trust a message sent back from someone who might be chained to a wall in a rape dungeon but is writing "Hi dad, it's so lovely here in Dorne, everything is fine, Rhaegar is the best husband ever."

I dunno. i think that he genuinely loved her, but that doesn't seem to have been reciprocated. Certainly Robert never wanted to be king, though, and by the time he visits Winterfell in S1E1, he is so over all this bullshit he can't even.

Depends whether or not you're looking at things on a large or small scale.
Jaime saved the city while Jon lost the city, but as per the mad queen's speech, Jon seemed to have saved the world.

I agree. It doesn't seem like Bobby’s character at all to go crazy over a girl like that. He wasn’t an incel loser.
Besides, he was Ned Starks best friend as a young man and we have good reason to trust Ned’s judgment

Also while Jaime did save the city from total annihilation, the city did still get sacked by Tywin's men and countless died.

in ned's POV he reflects that Robert didn't really know or understand her. I think it's made pretty clear Robert didn't "love" her, he thinks he did, but it was more just possessive desire.

>incel.
>forgetting the episode where Cersie initiated order 66 on dozens of Robert's bastards.
You have such a shit memory, you could be one of the D bags that wrote the last 3 seasons.

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>i think that he genuinely loved her
Robert loved Lyanna because she was Ned's sister, and he loved Ned because he was Lyanna's brother. It all goes in a circle. Had he not wanted to join houses with Ned he wouldn't have proposed a marriage between Joffrey and Sansa.

2 kids, actually. But he was litrally an autist, so it's all par for the course for him

the fact that robert had bastards and constantly slept around was the reason lyanna didn't like him in the first place too

I fucking hate purefoy, so not me

He loved Ned because they were raised together like brothers in the Vale.

>not wanting to scrape olive oil off of james purerfoys dirty body
what are you a fucking prudish closet fag or something?

Ned is also reflecting on this long after the fact- and it's not like in the system we're talking about that Robert had time to get to know Lyanna on the deep level Ned got to know Catelyn and feel the sort of love a married couple gets to. I read that more as a melancholic look back about the follies of youth when everything seemed so immediate and the best course of action seemed to be plunging a nation into a war that killed thousands, directly and indirectly, over something that could have been settled diplomatically. The way all wars are, eventually.

that's true, Robert could've grown to have genuine love for Lyanna eventually in the same way Ned and Cat did, but I'm just saying he didn't really love her given that he barely knew her. he just desired her.

I think it was joffrey who did that, not cersei. Lad's far more intelligent than he seems

he was an irritable sociopath, not a retard

In the show it's Joffrey, in the books it's Cersei.

Martin has written himself into a corner he can't possibly finished in two books without some rushing. Azor, Stoneheart, Arya's wolf we followed for an entire chapter for some reason, the other Targaryen claimant, Dorne, a lot of other shit I can't remember. I predict we'll feel about as dissatisfied with those endings as the show. Martin just had too many ideas. The prophecy part especially could have been left out without losing much to the overall story imo. Prophecies rarely work anyway, it's too cheesy, and Martin is that "no good/bad, only grey" type of writer prophecies is ill suited for

given how close the Starks were, and Robert and Ned were, I think it's fair to say Robert knew her well enough and it's not uncommon for guys to fall for their friend's sister. Lyanna was probably friendly, playful and wild which would have appealled a lot to him. It isn't anything like Ned and Cat's love either, because it began with passion and desire and not affection and comfort.

Well at least we got Quentyn Martell chapter for some reason.

because he's still alive

as a showfag is there any resource that'd give me more info on the Martells? Any stories or anything? Is it all just scattered throughout the books?

and she still had an affair with a married man

Even though the books say he died on Daenerys bed?

>legitimized my a now dead and uncrowned invader

???

that body was burned beyond recognition, it could've been anyone

>I fucking hate purefoy
I honestly want to know why? Are you butt?

Read it on westeros.org or awoiaf

The whole point of Martin's prophecies is they come true but not how we might expect them to. Melisandre sees visions of Renly dying by shadow, and Renly beating Stannis out of King's Landing. She states only one of these will come true and Stannis must choose which, so he has her assassinate Renly, and we assume the second one won't come true because Renly is dead. Then he gets beaten out of King's Landing by Garlan Tyrell dressed up as Renly. Azor Ahai is going to be important, but it won't be the grand hero who justly fights evil like people think.

Robert's father is half Targaryen. It effectively makes him blood related to the throne. This is the only reason he actually becomes King. The show fucking sucks.

I believe Missandei says she stayed with him till he died.

>hes still meandering over the dead fandom that is GoT
oh no no no no no
you huge faggo LMAO

The body was burned beyond recognition before Missandei was attending him you dummy. The only people who can actually confirm whether or not it was Quentyn are being shady as fuck.

Why do women drop monster cock 6'5 chads to be with some framelet anime ? I've seen this happen bizarrely frequently in real life.

GODS I WISH THAT WERE ME !

The Baratheons were literally cousins to the Targaryens that's the only reason Robert became king he's grandmother was a targaryen so he had the closest claim to the crown

So if he wasn't a Baratheon who would have gotten the iron throne?

You're fucking retarded.

probably Tywin he was hand of the king. The people loved him because he was a good ruler which is part of why Aerys went mad and he "liberated" the city

tywin was replaced as hand of the king

Pretty sure Stannis fucking legitimized Gendry.

You're forgetting the fact Gendry is supposedly a carbon copy of young Bobby B. That's how Jon and Ned knew

No he didn't, if Gendry was legitimized his claim would be stronger than Stannis's.

He had a maester with him as he performed an annulment, got married by one, and had this documented by one.

No, that was a High Septon.

Snivelry!

Every single person stannis names when dropping the leaches into the fire dies

Gendry is a good choice for a lord though
Young, healthy STRONG NOW. You can still teach him.

On top of that, Bobby B never wanted to sit on the throne to begin with. It just so happened he had the closest claim to the royal bloodline to rally with but if he had it his way you can bet he would have been the first to sit Ned on that thing the moment Jamie got off.

The only reason he has anything is because Daenarys gave it to him, during the process of her mental downfall.
Yet now, nobody questions it-

Dont bother,hes a retarded bobbyhater and doesnt wants to jerk off targ dick

can someone post the paying the iron price pic? much appreciated

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A whole thread and it hasn't been said.
The Seed is Strong

>So this fucking faggot being a Baratheon is literally just a hunch. It's literally gossip. Nobody actually fucking knows.
Even if you're just going by show-lore, Ned Stark spent the majority of his life as Robert Baratheon's best friend. Seeing a younger version of your best friend hammering away at swords probably confirmed it pretty hard.

The fuck do you want them to do, invent DNA testing for you?

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stop watching porn, and actually have sex.
The real chads are the ones who are in a decent relationship in their 40's raising chads of their own

>dragons tone
Storm's End

>I was looking forward to
Why does what you want matter? Arya has never wanted to the a lady or a Queen, she doesn't like being controlled, ruling others, dresses, or social norms.

Me

Monster 6'5" chads spend more time at the gym then with their women and women take offense to that. It turns out women prefer men to actually spend time with them rather then time away from them on vain pursuits

which brings us to sluts and whores, who don't care if you spend time with them or not, but if you don't spend time with them they will spend time fucking others

Reminder that show Balon won the War of Five Kings

His only fault was that he died a few hours too early, otherwise ned would have tols him everything. Lannisters would have ended then and there and no war would have happened, they would be unified and strong enough when the dragon queen makes her move.