Can we admit this movie was kino? Can we put aside the skewed version of samurai, the non historically accurate...

Can we admit this movie was kino? Can we put aside the skewed version of samurai, the non historically accurate, the white savior complex?

Can we say it's a love letter to bushido and the morality expressed through it?

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No.

This is one of the few movies where if I am flipping through channels and it is on, I will watch it to the end.

Why?

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>it's a love letter to bushido and the morality expressed through it?

being a doormat for your feudal lord and acting sadistic towards anyone of lower social status?

Because thats what being a Samurai was all about.

it would've been cooler without the forced weeb protagonist to appeal to normies

I used to think Zimmer was a hack until i heard the OST of this movie

This is a great film, I've always liked it.

Yeah, that's how samurais actually were. And the term bushido wasn't even a thing until the early 20th century when japan used western idea of what japan was to fuel japans nationalism and eventual facism into ww2.

But i still love the movie even though it overly glorifies something that probably didn't exist.

He is a hack. It got chopped up and reused for several other movies.

>They are all perfect

>I will tell you how he lived

Every time. Every fucking time.

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>japan used western idea of what japan was to fuel japans nationalism

Japanese national imperialism was white peoples fault now?
I think you might be a retarded american college student user.

was the ninja part realistic?

> And the term bushido wasn't even a thing until the early 20th century when japan used western idea of what japan was to fuel japans nationalism and eventual facism into ww2

you are actually retarded, this is just factually wrong

He was french

>The First Weeaboo
It's a good movie, that period of history is very interesting as well. Disregarding the fact that the Samurai had used firearms for hundreds of years because of the Portugese and that entire plot point is retarded. Just treat it as romanticized, historical fiction.

blocks your path

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They fucked it up casting Cruise, even Pitt would have done a better job.

>white savior complex
But the asians help him from himself first, so isn't it more of a white man realizing his own culture is terrible and fights to protect a new one he cares more about? Technically its an Asian savior first and then a White savior returning the favour.

And that's why it's based.

It's a movie about the instantaneity beauty. And how modernity and progress are intrinsically the destruction of beauty. It's not about your weaboo bullshit. Low class plebs couldn't get a movie like that. Only people who are samurai in their mind can get it.

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Ken Watanabe is one of the best actors of all time

I agree with you OP, I go back to this movie from time to time but I can't help but be bothered by the overbearing focus on the MC. Tom Cruise just didn't sell it well but the whole rest of the story was great. If they had just made it less focused on him and more of an ensemble with original characters like HBO's Rome it would have gotten less negative reviews I think.

>let lower social status people having normal life
>planet gets destroyed in 2 centuries

Good job nietzschean retards

Have sex, incel.

theyre always like that. good white guy becomes the most awesome native and helps fight bad white guys

Man, I lose it well before that, whenever Katsumoto realizes his only son’s giving up his own life so Katsumoto can escape. Watanabe goes through denial, anger, grief and acceptance in seconds, without saying a word.

>MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN TEE HEE

The Last Samurai is only a stupid title if you don't know Samurai is also a plural and it isn't describing Tom Cruise.

Are you guys ready for the BLACKED version?

variety.com/2019/film/news/black-panther-chadwick-boseman-samurai-yasuke-1203207699/

The part where they materialized out of thin air, or the part when Tom Cruise has them cornered and they hiss like snakes?

BASED AND CRUISEPILLED

I don't think he said that at all. You're making it look like he did for some reason, probably because you are a fucking loser.

Imperial Japan took advantage of a flattering, foreign interpretation of their ancient culture to fuel their propaganda campaign.

>, the white savior complex?

It's not a White saviour film. Cruise goes to Japan a broken man and gets fixed by the superior, more civilised Japanese culture. It's a Japanese saviour film.

jolly good, sir

you should watch star vs the forces of evil

>t. seething incel

did cruise get that widow pussy

Cucking a guy feels even better when he’s forced to watch from beyond the grave.

No but I think wearing her dead husband's armor is kind of a bigger deal. I think the romance was one-sided on his part and she went from hating him and resenting him to respecting him and his growth as a person. White people smell awful to east Asians anyhow.

They probably should’ve given it a more generic title, like “By The Sword” of “End Of Honor” to dispell that whole thing.

This, honestly. And really, Tom Cruise doesn’t really save anybody. He’s the only one still standing at the end.

I did enjoy gif related scene and its showing of the different values of East and West.

>Samurai loses
>Oops better kill myself now
>Westerner loses
>try again
>loses
>try again
>loses
>doesnt giving up until hes literally unconscious

Based Cruise.

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I understood what it meant instantly and I'm a verifiable brainlet

>Samurai loses
He was a general who led an entire army into battle and lost, not one guy who is trying to get himself killed because of self-loathing.

>White people smell awful to east Asians anyhow.
I guess that's why white male - asian female is the most common interracial relationship across the world?

It was a thing? How the fuck do you not know "samurai" is both singular and plural?

Based Watanabe owns every frame he’s on in this movie. Dude can say more with a glance than lots of actors can with a paragraph.

You cant even hide your resentment you slave minded motherfucker

American public education, sadly.

>Nietzsche was against slave morality
Why do you throw words around you dont understand?

Even if that were true, it wouldn't be because of the way you smell. Want proof? Go to Japan and try to buy deodorant. People will turn their noses at you in disgust before you find some.

It is statistically factual. And if they hated the way we smell then that would not be the case.
>Go to Japan and try to buy deodorant. People will turn their noses at you in disgust before you find some.
I have been to Japan and had no problem whatsoever with either ladies or gentlemen. Sorry you smell like shit, that doesn't apply to your entire race though, incel. Take a shower once in a while.

If you aren't vegan they just didn't tell you that you smelled like a chimpanzee hoarding deli meats in it's asscrack.

Huuuwite piggu go hooome

Yes

Same here

Oh.... I thought you were white. It all makes sense now you're a coping ricecel. Go back to r/asianmasculinity, raging ricecel.
By the way, I fucked several tiny Japanese girls while I was there. U triggered, Elliot?

Sure dude, we're all impressed here. Yessir

>implying Japs dont stink as well.
>Implying all asians dont stink and the absolute worst of the east Asians are not Koreans.
>Implying showers min twice daily and some deodorant doesn't completely mask the so called white people smell...
>Implying jap women dont go crazy over white male musk because we actually have one after a workout of some kind and jap men do not.
>implying they don't have an absolute disgust for blacks and only complete whores usually pimped by Yakuza are the only ones that give them time of day due to their rank smell, and 0 manners.

I lived there on and off for 5 years from around 12 to 19 years old, due to my Father working there in the IT dept in Toyota. Whenever I played Rugby or bball in school the girls would sit really close to me after the game and sniff me. White women love it too but at least they are a bit more reserved about it. Japs are creepy as fuck - My mate over there reckons its because it such an oddity for them.

Nietzsche told to plebs to enjoy life and massified the aristocratic mindset thinking plebs could also enjoy beauty.
2 centuries later: mankind is now an invasive species and the planet is dying. Well done fucktards.
Low tier scum are on this planet to serve high people, nothing else. They must keep a slave morality not because the samurai are evil but because it's better for the beauty of the world.

Based and Keanu-pilled

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yellow boi cope. Mogged a lot of you manlets over there pretty badly.

Just gonna drop this here
>youtu.be/eJLGpOBV764

This. We may stink to you asian males but your asian women love it. Maybe pheromones?

cringe

>the white savior complex?
You know it was based on real events but with a French (if I'm not mistaken) Right?

It's one of my mom's favorite films though I think it's just because she wanted to get fucked by Ken Wantabe

I feel the worst
Between what little info we have on Yasuke and current political environment I feel they're going to create racial war bait

Good taste

I honestly cant wait for it

Good movie.
>SEETHING

you know I never really fell for the bbc meme but this guy was great considering his role in a Marvel movie and is probably the best looking black dude i've seen in my life, I wouldn't really want this role to go to somebody else who gets way more media attention than they should just because they know the right people.

>all these fags calling me a ricecel
trust me I'm white I just think it's funny that you get fetishized in Asian countries for smelling like a petting zoo and act like hot shit when you come back here because you fucked some Asian sluts who were just trying to piss off hikkis and NEET perverts. those are the people whose wake you are swimming in

Have you been sipping feed water user? This poster is not well, take him to the infirmary.

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Dude come on. This thread has been derailed enough as it is

oh no, some British fag got his feelings hurt so we can't talk about the movie anymore

Lol u asian masculinity faggots are same retards as pol. Muh wimyn not like u.

HOLY SHIT HAHAHA
ABSOLUTELY SEETHING

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Dude i wasnt even involved in that. God knows Im not a britbong either

>trust me I'm white
You're a literal meme, ricecel. You brought up "oh asian girls don't like white guys they stink lol" because you were asshurt at the implication of sex between the characters in the film. Pure ricecel cope.
I'm not British I'm American. Stay mad.

anyone who doesn't think this is a great film is a fucking faggot. Excellent acting, music, cinematography, effects, costume work, and mostly strong writing as well

This is oneof those movies you watch but immediately forget everything about making you question yourself if you actually watched it

why do you use terms like "mogged" and "rugby" then you dumb cunt.

WUZ

SAMURAIZ

&

SHEIT!

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>he thinks everyone dabbing on him is the same person
lmao

I always cry at the gatling gun scene towards the end. The gunners are so upset to have to do that to their brave countrymen. And to have to do it with these insane new machines that produce a level of destruction they've never seen before. It's pretty heartbreaking

have sex ricecel

i dont mind romanticism of culture but it goes too far.

samurai were fucking savage faggots who are barbaric. the movie makes them seem entirely heroes who do nothing wrong at all.

I think you're losing track of who you're responding to, man.

Not like it's that much different from European knights' romanticization. We all know they were mostly thugs employed by the high nobility to keep the peasantry in line, but we pretend they were some upper echelon of especially moral people for storytelling purposes.

Based and Nietzschepilled

Nietzcshe was a faggot with a retard name.

>advertise cool skeleton pirate guy in all promo material
>he's literally in like one scene for five seconds

dude its all cool bro you're all fags for trying to flex on wimpy chinese/japanese dudes yo

I think we broke him guys.

Yea Forums doesn't actually care about accuracy

they just hate black people and fags and women and use 'accuracy' as an excuse to cry

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...what? Take your meds, tranny.

i mean most movies set during that time show most knights being thugs.

>That webm
1. Wtf?
2. The movements are actually good

>t. David Smith
I wish more people had unique surnames like Nietzsche, too many low iq serfs ended up just picking one of the few words they could write.

which part of what I said are you confused by?

Nietzsche was a jealous cunt who was ashamed he didn't have artistocratic blood so as a revenge he wrote his trash saying "Oh vey we can all pretend to be aristocratic" then he fucked up the world. Nietzsche books must be burned

What do "blacks, fags or women" have to do with this film you straw-grabbing freak?

He literally used the same song in the rock,gladiator and pirates

You smell worse as a tranny than a japanese dude does when he stops eating for a week. And you're also hairy and stupid you gay cave dwelling prison faggot mother fucker.

nobody buys it when you pretend to be another poster btw

Hmm, this guy writes more like a pajeet than a chink or jap. Did a lost street shitter wander into the thread?

Why would they attack before everyone went to sleep?

Nothing. But OP asked if we care that The Last Samurai is inaccurate and we don't.
You'd get the impression on Yea Forums that people here care a lot about accuracy because it's complained about a lot. But that's only an excuse to cry about blacks/fags/women etc.

Do you understand?

But there are multiple posts ITT discussing the historical accuracy without those elements being present. So no you're clearly just projecting and being asshurt. Go to another thread where it's happening if you want to complain about it.

would an indian be drunk enough to pee into a coffee cup?

>But there are multiple posts ITT discussing the historical accuracy without those elements being present.
That is exactly my point. Are any posters particularly concerned with these inaccuracies, considering that those things are not present? No.
Is the overall sentiment that they don't matter and the film is cool? Yes.

How am I projecting? What am I even wrong about? You don't seem to really comprehend what i'm saying.

At the end of all this I realize I relate to Tyrion the most. I feel alone.

>artistocratic blood
Spook

ITT ricecels

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>I have 1 pair of shoes and I am not entirely sure why even Philippine women take pictures of me behind chicken wire
>mommy put the pipe down! Canadian hockey players make me look like a keebler elf

Cruise isnt the last samurai, hes not even the savior. There is none. At the end of the movie you find out its him giving a suedo narration OF the last samurai, Katsumoto.

pseudo as in "fake" or misrepresented

I want an azn gf, any tips?
Btw I’m white

Well its not really a narration movie as we know it. He narrates various parts of the movie then kinda compounds that with him telling the emperor how Katsumoto lived.

No matter your views on the movie I think we can all agree its kino in the highest sense. Goes up there with the Alexander, Troy, Gladiator etc

>walk up to asian girl
>say "hello"
Congrats you got yourself an asian gf as a white man.

>Btw I’m white
That's all you need.

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This.

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I like the last samurai more than that shit. Don't disrespect Ken. Why do I even have to say this?

Now i know for a fact we broke him

you smell like wild pig and 100% GUARANTEED you will see the person who caused your betrayal
I am the weeb ITT
Do you think you can be humiliated as I have and survive?
I mean, I told her to her face her pussy felt like wet grass and she flipped the fuck out. Imagine if she heard the truth from someone she wasn't trying to hurt.

youtu.be/iBhFeulj7II
It's over for asian """"""guys"""""

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Because of the bushido code, you idiot. Ninjas always announce their arrival before performing their jutsus and engaging in honourable combat with kunais.

based schizo

Step up you weak bitch. I know where you camp your fat ass out you cracked out gook.

>i am a weeb
Then you should be happy. Japanese women worship white men.

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White dick is heaven as long as the person its attached to is in a coma. How fast can you sprinkle gold onto the ground?

If you intentions are pure just at least pretend they are worth the effort? it always will be my decision anyway so DANCE WOP.

*SLURP* y'all don't actually care as much as you flex

It's not a flex if it's true. Straight from the mouths of Asian girls:
youtube.com/watch?v=GImhqWN0bNY

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Lets just be straight why the actual fuck would you pick tom over ken if percs werent involved? can relate to male drug addicts enough just to beat them with rust weapons help them ON MY COMMAND

dont fuck up either. no one needs your shit lest he wants it

>surfing television in the year of our lord 2000 + 19
That's a yikes

>It's a crazy ricecel gets mindbroken and becomes a gibbering madman episode
Kino

>Nietzsche is a German family name derived from the East Central German diminutive for the given name Nikolaus
>tfw it's the kraut version of Nichols
but yes please do go one my deracinated xenophilic friend

*SLURP*

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Well didn't he kill himself?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Genest

Either he did or it was an accident.

BIG OOF
youtube.com/watch?v=B0zWqsiPtCY

>white guy is the samurai
so white is the we now?

She qt

Talking of this kinda thing I never understood a certain scene until I was much older
>Tom Cruise is tied up on Horse
>Watches Defeated Japanese General viciously beheaded by Samuri
OMG the samurai are so mean and evil!!
>watching as an adult
>Realise it’s a Samurai warrior granting his opponent a quick death after he initiates Seppuku to atone for the shame of defeat
Really changed how I viewed the Samurai for the rest of the movie once I understood that