I can't re-watch the old episodes after the finale. I hate this man. I hope Jon Snow rots for what he did to Khaleesi...

Exactly, the night king death ruins the night's watch plot

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>I can't re-watch the old episodes after the finale. I hate this man.
Then you're a fucking cuck who needs to learn to look at the world with a glass half full attitude. And you need to watch more TV if you think this was anywhere near the biggest blunder in TV history.
This isn't even going down as some all time fail, regardless of you trying to meme it that way. The finale is decisively even between people that are ok with it and not. This isn't like LOST or Dexter or HIMYM.
Season 8 is the worst season of the show by far. But if it actually ruined the show for you then I have no idea how you put up with much television at all. Westworld Season 2 by comparison was a much larger drop off in quality than GOT had.
I'm guessing you're one of these idiots that thinks the NK was supposed to be the final boss even though he's a character that isn't even in the fucking books and the army of the dead has less screen time in the show than season 5's stupid former subplot does.
Go ahead and interpret this as me defending the writers or the last 2 seasons of the show. I'm not. But while the quality drop was noticable, it doesn't come close to ruining the show. Get a grip man.

This.

ya - arya ones are bretty gud

why didnt dany fucked up the night king when she saved jon? she destroyed kings landing with 1(one) dragon and she couldnt hit at least the lieutenants with 3(three) dragons?

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It was truly fucked up and out of character from Jon, but the pressure/motivation was there. Still fucked up how he tricked her, though. At least his feelings for her were genuine.

Bait. Dany was always the villain you retarded faggot.

This basically.
It was a disappointing final season but anyone that thinks it was some kind of F tier disaster needs to watch more TV. I expected the final episode to be worse.

>the most vile woman in the Seven Kingdoms!
Cersei never killed 6 million civilians for no fucking reason.

>both fucked over by Dabid
>both are autistic with sticks in their asses
I ship it

It's just the popular thing on internet echo chambers right now to try to force this meme that GOT ending was the worst ever because in the minds of foreveralone virgin neets this was "their show" that the normies took from them so they want to try to burn its reputation to the ground now. If you ask around the actual irl reaction is more lukewarm.

this

literally this.
This actually reminds me a lot of Mass Effect 3 which had a stupid ending but nowhere near the worst in the history of vidya and while pretty much everyone agrees it could have been better, it's only when I went online to Yea Forums, reddit, and other such places that I saw people acting like Obama had just gotten elected to a 3rd term.

>Long night tales
>Massive ice wall spanning continent just to stop him
>Whole bran and Jon plot centers on him
>Wildlings fleeing him
>8 years of buildup
>Raises the dead and has a dragon
>Dies in one episode stabbed with a dagger

>8 years of build up
watch the show. they never knew what to do with them. This was George's plan too.

despicable manlet

Dany had no impact at all in beating the NK (only Arya and Bran bait mattered) and arguably is responsible for him becoming a threat by sacking her dragon to him so he could blast through the Wall.

NK was a glorified subplot all along. The screen time and emphasis given to things like Kings Landing and the Iron Throne were always a bigger priority.
I'm sorry you didn't get more of your Michael Bay Zombie horde vs Dragon popcorn flick. But this show was always first and foremost about the throne.

>I'm sorry you didn't get more of your Michael Bay Zombie horde vs Dragon popcorn flick. But this show was always first and foremost about the throne.
literally this.

That's because the show is actually shit. No rewatchability now that you know what happens eh?

this

What a brainlet ideology.

I cant rewatch seasons 1, 5, 6, 7, 8, 2, 3, or 4 because they were shit compared to the rest.

the amount of seething roasties itt

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The Others are getting taken out at the end of Winds of Winter.
A Dream of Spring is everything after that, which D&D compressed into 3 episodes.

That's the real crime here, how compressed and rushed everything was, not that the NK didn't end up as the endgame, because he's not going to in the books either. You're getting more or less the same ending in the books, it will be more fleshed out.

DON'T CRITICISE
DON'T COMPLAIN
CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME

>DON'T CRITICISE
>DON'T COMPLAIN
But... I did. Did you... even read my post?

Trivializing the white walkers ruins the world building, they're supposed to be an existential threat, how can you believe they did all that work to build that wall for someone that weak. You can still have the throne shit while having that, but the show's been nothing but hollywood battle scenes for years now

based

Did you even read what he said, brainlet?
He said it was the worst season by far. Just because he recognizes that it isn't the worst thing ever but still admits it was a disappointment doesn't mean he's a defense force now.

>user 1: It was the worst thing ever!
>user 2: eh. it was a disappointment, but I've seen worse.
>user 1: HOLY SHIT STOP BEING A FANBOY I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG ALL CAPS LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU
get help

>OP getting BTFO in his own thread

It's sad because we are all pretty much in agreement that season 8 (and 7) were too rushed and ended the show in a disappointing fashion compared to what came before, but apparently that's not good enough for some people who want us to take it further and basically say the show is ruined and that this was an all time blunder in TV history. Sorry but it just wasn't. And the overall reaction reflects that. People are disappointed, but nowhere near as much as with other bigger blunders in the past.

I wish his love for Dany managed to break (((Bran)))'s mind control. I wish he had fulfilled his destiny and bent the knee to the one true queen.

Allegorical of the fall of the West to be frank - the white anglo stabs the savior through the heart, and then consigns himself to being forgotten in the cold northern wastes.

literally "muh night king"
kys yourself OP. Go watch transformers.

I binged the whole show and I have to say the Walkers are not prioritized at all as a main plotline until season 7, so having them be the big bad at the end would just be dumb, especially when there are far more complex and built up characters that blur the lines between good and evil. If anything, my issue with the last few seasons of the show are how rushed they were, not really what happened in them.

this

The only issue I had with the walkers not being the endgame was that tebow first scene in the show was about them, but then the finale kind of fixed that because the first scene in the show is really about some people going north of the wall and walking into the deep cold haunted forest and seeing the horrors that winter brings.
The last scene in the show by contrast is Jon and his new family going north of the wall into the same forest only now there is some grass growing out of the snow and it's far more encouraging. This is probably the "Dream of Spring" that the books refer to. So yeah, I'm fine with how it ended even if I think season 8 as a whole was too rushed.

>that this was an all time blunder in TV history

...it was though?

I mean they literally took a chance to make LOTR and made Warcraft The Movie instead. sure the first 4 seasons are still good but it's incredibly difficult to recommend them with the story still lacking a viable ending or even second half.

nah, it was just a lackluster final season. I've seen far worse.

And the GoTfag redditors are already showing their stockholm syndrome.

>it was though?
The show deserved better, but this wasn't something cataclysmacly terrible. Already there are plenty of people that are fine with it. It isn't like Mass Effect 3 or LOST where people rioted and there was nobody happy.

daenerys' holocaust was a heat of the moment crime of passion albeit a crime she showed no remorse for, yet she is still intent on building a better world.
thinking offhand here, cersei tortured tyrion when he was an infant, fucked her brother, fucked her cousin, murdered half of her remaining family along with thousands of innocent men, women, and children when she blew up the sept. and did all of it with calculated forethought.

big bads in fantasy stories don't need to be the most developed thing in them: but they do need to be treated as the Big Bad.

in LOTR the Scouring of the Shire is explicitly linked to Mordor, so its an echo of the main struggle against Sauron. There's no such link between Cersei/Dany and the White Walkers.

Most people I know like the first 7 seasons so I have no problem still recommending the show.

No, this is more comparable to what if the entirety of Mass Effect 3 was garbage.
The finale doesn't seem so bad because the rest of the season already got us used to garbage like how the Night King died.

>big bads in fantasy stories don't need to be the most developed thing in them: but they do need to be treated as the Big Bad.
Martin disagrees with you.

>muh night king
>muh LOTR comparison
every time.
Some of you are just going to have to accept that this isn't going down as the epic fail you might want it to.
Hell, if anything lots of people are being TOO nice to it.

is it time for a shill campaign to try to save the spinoffs?

compared to the rest of the series its disappointing but no worse than 7 or 5
out of context its still a better than almost anything else right now so just be thankful it didn't really go to shit

Even though the season is disappointing it still managed to be good enough for a finale

E6 was NOT the finale

WATCH OUT THIS SUNDAY FOR EPISODE 7, THE REAL ENDING

E6 was NOT the finale

WATCH OUT THIS SUNDAY FOR EPISODE 7, THE REAL ENDING

E6 was NOT the finale

WATCH OUT THIS SUNDAY FOR EPISODE 7, THE REAL ENDING

E6 was NOT the finale

WATCH OUT THIS SUNDAY FOR EPISODE 7, THE REAL ENDING

E6 was NOT the finale

WATCH OUT THIS SUNDAY FOR EPISODE 7, THE REAL ENDING

E6 was NOT the finale

WATCH OUT THIS SUNDAY FOR EPISODE 7, THE REAL ENDING

E6 was NOT the finale

WATCH OUT THIS SUNDAY FOR EPISODE 7, THE REAL ENDING

E6 was NOT the finale

WATCH OUT THIS SUNDAY FOR EPISODE 7, THE REAL ENDING

E6 was NOT the finale

WATCH OUT THIS SUNDAY FOR EPISODE 7, THE REAL ENDING

>i-its not as bad
Damn, we are already at bargaining?

>muh character that isn't even in the books that has no characterization but represents pure evil and that's it!
wew

its a behind the scenes documentary you sperg

>compared to the rest of the series its disappointing but no worse than 7 or 5
>out of context its still a better than almost anything else right now so just be thankful it didn't really go to shit
>Even though the season is disappointing it still managed to be good enough for a finale
this

it's not

lmao literally the only people who liked anything about this season are Dany waifufags because she went full Hitler.

Stop bullying my boy. Yes, what he did was petty. Eddard would have not approved. He lost his honor.
>So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.

this is what I'm seeing as the general consensus
people wanted it to be better but are not pissed off beyond belief.

I wish he would have remained dead.

Where did all you apologists even come from?

>Khaleesi
Can't people call her Dany? It's like if I exclusively addressed Robert as King.

Yeah, lets just ignore the hordes shitting on GoT on Twitter and Youtube.

Replace Night King with Lich King. What changes?

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The final episode literally has the same rating as Dexter's finale on imdb.
Who do you think you are fooling?

>he just wanders off north of the wall
stopped watching there

nobody here is an appologist. Most people are disappointed but stop short of OP's belief that this was some F- tier ultra blunder. We have all seen far worse shitshows than the way GOT ended, even if GOT had a lackluster ending.
If all you can do in response to that is interpret everybody that doesn't think it's the worst thing ever but still thinks it's under par as liking it, if that's how binary your brain works, then I don't think discussions like this are for you.

>IMDB
kek

hey, there's still time for him to fuck up his books as badly as D&D fucked up the show. it would explain why he's gotten so stuck if he's trying to force an ending that is not supportable by the setup: particularly given that Dany does nothing even as bad as Arya for the first two books.

LOTR was a reaction to Wagner just like ASoIaF was a reaction to LOTR, but that doesn't change that GRRM is going to have write an ending people actually accept.

>IMDB
yes and when that fat girl got voted best cover model as a joke through internet voting, it was because that's what most people actually thought

Do you have better sources?

>LOTR
stop

>its disappointing but no worse than 7 or 5

all the flaws add up and reinforce each other in a snowball of shit.
if you consider any episode in isolation it's not that awful - I was one of the people okay with episode 3 - but together it ends up feeling like an insult to the audience for investing themselves in any of the characters.

>just listen to the angry Danyfags spamming 1s on IMBD they are the only voice that matters

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and this is why user scores are a joke
the loudest voices always win

Remember after each presidential debate where online 90% of the people said trump won?

As opposed to the ones who mindlessly voted 10s?

>We have all seen far worse shitshows than the way GOT ended

speak for yourself. perhaps I don't watch enough American network TV.

>someone in this thread actually tried to use this as a credible source
kek

Jon Snow's entire character arc is bullshit.
>bastard son goes to the wall
>comes into contact with white walkers while fighting off the wildlings
>gets betrayed and killed by the night watch
>gets revived by magic for some unknown reason that's never explained
>tries to rally people to fight the white walkers and kill the night king
>finds out he's the true heir to the Iron Throne (AH DUNT WAN ET)
>epic fight with white walkers, but he never actually fights or kills the Night King despite all the build up over the last few seasons between them
>kills Dany, gets imprisoned, and then fucks off to the north to live in exile

they're both bad
The 1s are people who just want to drive the score down and the 10s are people who want to reverse that trend
In reality it would ironically be a better metric to poll random people on the street.

i was waiting all this time to see a scene where kaleesi shits out a dragon egg in a 47 minute long uninterrupted scene as it crowns in her sphincter and makes its way painfully out, piss occasionally splashing out of her distressed urethra in time with heavy strain, her small grunts and squeaks and sporadic deep, resonant moans punctuating the highs and lows of the theatre of egg.
Perhaps I'll see it live one day.

Jon was a dumb side character in season 8 but if you think he didn't get the ending he wanted then you didn't understand the character.
"you've got the north in you. the real north"

There must be a reason why so many people are mad.

are you fucking stupid? the white walkers being more important than everything else is literally the central theme of the books and WAS the central theme of the show for a long time. just because the writers fucking fumbled it and misunderstood this after they ran out of source material doesnt give them a pass for the piece of shit we received. fucking kill yourself
>i-it was always about p-politics!
imagine not comprehending such a simple theme in a fairly simple story. good god

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I feel bad for all those who followed this piece of crap for 10 years.
I dropped it after season 2.

>being this invested in one particular character
stop browsing /got/, you fucking moron

>There must be a reason why so many people are mad.

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if you put people on the spot face-to-face they will be inhibited about saying anything negative.
what matters is the effect on merc and bluray sales.
by the way, the Amazon price for the season 1-4 box set is currently £15 higher than the price for the season 1-7 box set.

Her suddenly being Hitler and Bran being king.
The entire thing is just fucking stupid.

>are you fucking stupid? the white walkers being more important than everything else is literally the central theme of the books and WAS the central theme of the show for a long time
t. hasn't read the books
hell, they're not even in one of the books

>1:35 - Jaime: "I could care less"
The fucking idiot, immortalised with that fucking idiotic mistake that NO ONE on the entire fucking production caught.
Pathetic.

bookfag here, can you literally fuck off please?

This would have been hilarious

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>people getting mad that a lot of people don't think it's the worst thing ever even if they don't like it

Alt right trolls are driving down tge game of thrones score

>you can't ask people irl, only my anonymous internet polls count
lol nope

Why is it everything about politics for you, amerifats?

eh... not really.
I mean the others are handled very differently in the books. There are times when they're important and times where they are not, bit as of yet they're not the main threat.

The shows literal first scene foreshadows the white walker threat, entire episodes are dedicated to it, Jon's whole character is built around stopping this threat for 7 seasons. Doesn't matter how important the political shit is, dealing with the NK in a single episode just ruins a good 40% of the show

There was literally no point to him being revived other than the writers just deciding that it would be a nice little twist. The ending to his arc isn't what bothers me. It's the fact that his role was basically irrelevant in the grand scheme of things but for some reason he was revived.

Or we're just letting kikes shill this shit season finale now? Okay cool, you're right it sure was the best shit I've tasted.

This, even though Beric was revived 6 times just to hold off some fucking walkers for a few seconds at least indirectly helped to kill the NK, Jon has done nothing and they made the undead amy seem like a joke

see

the point was to kill Dany you dolt
you dont even know the prophecy you're referencing

this

>a part of the show not even in the books that takes up about 15% of the show's focus ruins 40% of the show
nah

>but as of yet they're not the main threat.

it's honestly possible that you're right, but if so it means GRRM has simply mis-structured his own story and is endlessly trying to make a set of ideas work that cannot work:

Dany wasn't set up to be mad early enough, it's easier to argue that she's set up as the messiah based on the first two books.
The White Walkers were introduced first, just like the main threat of a horror movie.
Bran was set up as a crippled wizard who has to touch a tree to use his powers.

Maybe GRRM is trying to do something else with each of these plotlines but we really have no reason to assume he's got some magic solution to make any of them work better than in the show.

this.
I feel like if Jon killed the NK and he died with the same consequences a lot of people here would be fine with it just because they think GOT has this crazy feminist agenda

literally anyone could have killed Dany.
Jon walked into an empty room and killed an unarmed 5' woman. omg the prince who was promised!!

we are not getting the last book either way.
Dude is 70 and overweight

>literally anyone could have killed Dany.
Literally anyone could have killed the NK
But this is a story, user.
You're not writing it. George is, and this is his ending.

No, actually, you haven't.

here is a poll that can't be samefagged. Go ahead and settle this there. At this point you're just talking in circles.

docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdCnLK7pUA7Hq8-B5HWGlC8JcEqjo_Z7_ql3bd_bbp8gDg1Dw/viewform?usp=sf_link

I have seen much worse

Just because they aren't front and center in all of the books doesn't mean they arent important. If anything it makes this theme that they are the important enemy that nobody cares about even more obvious. You are a fucking idiot. I have read the books and I bet you have too, but you are a fucking idiot and I have the three brain cells necessary to comprehend a simple story.

you are also a fucking moron. See above. Them not being shoved into your face only lends more credence to their participation in this theme. It is INCREDIBLY obvious they are portrayed as extremely lethal, motives unknown, and supernatural as well as behind the scenes and appearing only for short bursts of horror to a select few for this exact reason.

>cersei slept with her brother
>daenarys confirmed to have incinerated several hundred thousand men, women and children in twenty minutes
Woah, they're like, two evils or something.

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lol this was bad but some finales make this look like a well cooked feats.
You don't know what bad TV is.

thats because youre stupid. you're supposed to make believe season 4 finale is the end of the series and everything after that was written by a bunch of special ed children that dont know what theyre doing

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>you are a fucking idiot
>you are a fucking moron
is this what you do when you can't control other peoples opinions?

I'm seeing two camps here
>it was bad but I've seen worse
>it was the worst thing ever and if you disagree you're a Jewish like plant

>doesnt address any points
I call people fucking morons while I address all their points and explain very clearly why they are wrong. Unlike you, you fucking moron.

>OP this butthurt that even people that agree with him that it was bad don't hate it completely
sad

Did you miss the whole scene of Drogon trying to melt him only to reveal he was immune to the dragon fire?

>what's focused on in the books is what's important even if the show focuses on different things entirely
Complete brainlet, the show built them up to be the bigger threat, the books are irrelevant to this discussion since we're talking about the show. Also, you should probably rewatch the show, Jon Snow and the Night's watchmen take up a fair bit mroe than 15%.

You're literally samefagging throughout this entire thread, typing up defenses and apologizing like a madman. You also write like you just popped out of reddit, so why dont you go back? Also, this did ruin the show. There's no question it did. There's literally no point to watching all those dozens of hours when the plotline isn't going to culminate into anything worthwhile in the end. The majority of plotlines and worldbuilding were rendered completely impotent by this last season, but here you are shilling and pretending to be multiple people agreeing with yourselves. Go back.

nobody said the walker are not impo-
>fucking moron
>fucking idiot
ok

>The finale
>Fixing absolutely anything
top kek

George is writing it, you are shilling for it on the internet, and future generations will or will not read it based on whether it actually works objectively.

>can't control narrative
>lose arguments
"s-samefag! R-Reddit!"

literally nobody in this thread is defending season 8. Some people just don't think it ruined the whole show. Actually by the looks of things most people here feel that way.

for me it did at least
I'm not interesting in shifting opinions, just posting my own

>shilling it
I've got nothing to shill
I doubt George will ever release it.
We're really not in disagreement here.
I didn't like the ending. I'll stop short of saying it was this all time cancer because... well I've watched enough TV and anime to know it could be far worse, but I'm not happy with it

NO!
NOOOOOO!
SHIT THE FUCK UP!
IT DOESNT MATTER IF YOU DISLIKE IT! YOU NEED TO ADMIT ITS DA WORST THING EVAAAAAA
IF YOU SIMPLY DISLIKE IT YOURE A SHILL
A SHILL!!!

one post i responded to literally said that, while the other post tried to be more moderate but still said "the white walkers are not the main threat." this is a very stupid thing to say, because anyone that can follow a story and pay attention can recognize that just because an enemy hasnt been on center stage for every chapter of the book, doesnt mean that they are not being carefully built up to something important. furthermore, this build up is exactly why the white walkers carry the central theme of the book: while all the humans bicker among themselves about who sits on a throne that doesnt matter, the real enemy is coming to kill everything from the north but nobody cares. the white walkers not being on screen in everyone's faces for all 5 released books is exactly NECESSARY for this theme to be executed properly
and then you and others have the balls to say "oh well they arent really a big threat yet so this idea of yours that the theme is based off the walkers being the big threat isn't really accurate." How much more plain can I explain it? How much more obvious does it need to be? How can you blame me for being frustrated

Holy fuck, this amount of samefagging and damage control is unreal! Is that you David?

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How bout this, they're the biggest threat but not the endgame.

the interesting discussion to me is why it doesn't work, and why it's problems provide an explanation for Fat Man's inability to finish a work that ought logically to have become more (not less) like a traditional fantasy story as it escalated towards a conclusion.

What type of armor is that supposed to be? Why were all the armors in GoT so fucking weird? I know its supposed to be a fantasy show but was any of it based on some type of real world counterpart? Why wasnt there any plate armor?

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Will OP kill himself when he sees that not everyone hates it as much as he does?

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>traditional
Game of Thrones is not LOTR
It's almost a completely different genre

>most people here
You mean you?

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This seems about on par with what I'm seeing irl
A lot of people are disappointed but it's not being heralded by most people as the worst ending ever or that it ruins the show

have sex

OP btfo

I would say to carry the theme to fruition they would be endgame. I can't know this for sure with so many villains being built up (euron in particular), but I would still place my bets on them. However, there still is the possibility the white walkers are not just the ice killers they appear to be. I definitely don't think their "endgame" will just be necromancer king, ice zombie generals, big zombie army try to kill winterfell and get killed like in the show. What other endgame could you see matching something that is supposed to be the Long Night part 2? All of the important prophecies revolve around defeating them.

>I would say to carry the theme to fruition they would be endgame
Eh, I disagree because they don't receive enough attention. They're more of a consistant subplot that will help marry certain storylines together for the real endgame. In fact, based on the ending of the show and the fact that the last book isn't as much about winter, this seems to be what George has in mind

Walkers as the endgame would be stupid. They're a plot device to move things around but it's pretty clear Dany will have a long character arc transforming her into the mad queen that will be fine much better in the books than the show.

Reminder that if you think season 8 ruined the entire series you are literally a normie. Normies hate season 8 and think it had a disproportionately large drop off in writing because their favorite queen had her character assassinated. Sure it was awful because it resolved so little, but anyone that knows good television AND knows this story recognizes that the show was ruined beyond repair many seasons ago, with it falling apart as early as season 2 with Robb and his fat assed bitch from Volantis.

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I fundamentally disagree based on the books that have been released.

the story has multiple Fully Evil characters, some of them literally evil warlocks, a heavy involvement of magic and prophecy, and clearly defined protagonists. the idea that it's some kind of historical/fantasy hybrid that can selectively ignore genre expectations doesn't hold water at all.

So I see where you're coming from but I think having the characterless big bads and their zombie horde be the final boss would be too beneath ASOIAF and the detail it puts into its actual characters and places. I think they will be handled better in the books, but I'm glad they're not the last boss.

>muh general consensus guys, why dint you be good and like it, it's the general consensus guys!
Nice fallacy retard. You base all your arguments on consensus building? Then why not go look at all the online ratings that shows that the consensus of people actually despised this ending?

>why didn't you be good and like it
again, nobody is saying that

how do you two justify all the prophecies revolving around azor azai, phwp, defeating the long night, the great other, rhllor, etc that led to the events in roberts rebellion that set off this entire story, be less important than only one of the people discussed in only one of these prophecies (mad queen Dany)? Especially considering that almost every single one of the prophecies in this story have come true, and not a single one thus far has been totally discarded as bullshit

>if you only dislike it a little that means you actually like it
I'm sorry you're this triggered by people thinking it's only a 5/10 ending and not a -100/10 ending.

Ok so basically the Others will be a huge part of the book likely involved in multiple battles and taking more life. You could even say they will be the climax of the conflict in the story, but there will be a fair amount of falling action and conclusion involving another conflict afterwards. Martin takes forever to set things up and the final book will probably be mostly aftermath as well, and that's where mad queen Dany will probably come into play.

Just as it takes forever to get to the Walker fight, it will take a while for the story to end after it, but that afterwards portion will still have certain antagonists.
So in this sense the walkers ARE the main antagonists, just not the last antagonists.

Dany as a full antagonist wastes all the development of her as having ideals and sympathetic motives. I'd go as far as to say making her a Mad Queen contradicts the emphasis in the POV character of morally grey design.

is GRRM just going to stop writing Dany POVs because she's evil now? are her POV's going to be all full of rationalizations for roasting babies? how it make her a better villain if the first book was all about her transcending the assigned role of fuckslave through strength of personality?

this.
The show was just too rushed and probably crammed all of a dream of spring into the last 3 episodes. But in the books the NK/Others will still be taken care of with many hundreds/thousands of pages left over, and that's where Damerys will have her fa from grace

see

normies thought Dany was the main character because the story is structured to create that impression.

if GRRM wanted to make her an antagonist he probably shouldn't have spent the first 2-3 books setting her up as a plucky upstart fighting subhuman slavers and evil warlocks.

Dany isn't the main character, Jon kr Tyrion are

I agree that the title A Dream Of Spring implies falling action, but I don't see any reason this wouldnt be just the final half of the final book rather than the whole book. In fact, the title really implies to me that everything is going to appear pretty fucked up fairly close to the end of the book, but at the end there will be glimmers of hope for the future. I don't see why any of this in your mind necessitates a sequence of Others conflict -> Dany conflict, when in reality it is most likely that Dany arrives in westeros, kills fAegon, all WHILE shit with the others is going on, and then the two plotlines are resolved at some point. It would seem to me Dany will be dealt with first, and just because I believe this doesn't mean I think mad queen dany will be rushed or done poorly. Like another poster said, her being the final evil boss is what, if anything, would rush her from sympathetic messiah to evil final boss with no gray area left over

I rewatched it before S8 came out and the first 4 series are still quality kino, easily rewatchable. But now that's ruined.

I don't know a single person that thinks Dany is actually the main character It's pretty clear that's Jon. MAYBE Tyrion and in the first book it was Nedd anyway.
People are complicated. The idea that Dany can't be an antagonist because she doesnt have a nasty trait is... tarts not how George writes.

>''i loved the ending of game of thrones soo much, it was soooo so coool, i dont even know why everyone is so butthurt about it, i genuinely liked it, just imagine all the money that went into making the whole show. it's so well put together, not a lot of nowadays put this much effort into making good stuff anymore''
Legit something I heard a friend of mine say a few days ago. Wanted to punch him in the throat. How can some people be this retarded?

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because the amount of writing that happens after the walkers are defeated in the show is enough for a book or even two. We could have had a whole season taking place after Dany got stabbed.

yeah I don't get how Dany "going mad" is a meaningful or resonant aftermath to a Zombie apocalypse, particularly if she has a primary role in saving the world. I don't think it's going to work in the books, no matter how it's developed, because it contradicts the existing setup of her character. it's like arguing that Jon is going to come back as the Night King.

eh, I still enjoy the show
S8 didn't ruin it for me because enough of it was still so.ehwat entertaining even if it's the worst season.

>I don't think it's going to work in the books
We already know it's going that way in the books

Looks like we will have to see when George writes it, but that's how it's likely happening. Others are not the final boss.

The ship that was promised

But you have no idea if that's how the books are going to be structured. The entirety of the night king's existence for several seasons has been proof enough that the white walker plot could be completely different than what we see in the show. For example, how they finally brought the wall down with Dany's dragon that was only there because of a retarded raid beyond the wall that will almost certainly not happen.

OMG spoilers!!!

how the fuck are you people so confident saying this? are there sources or something where you read this? how can you know "yeah this is likely how it's going to go" with any shred of confidence?

the raid was dumb and won't happen.
Dany will probably lose a dragon to Euron's horn as opposed to the scorpion as well.
But the ending will pretty much be similar.

Fuck off Dannyfag
youtube.com/watch?v=J6oTIjvw_-8

George literally told them how it ends.
Fany going mad and burning Kings Landing for instance is a core "oh shit" plot point that they have already admitted is in the books.

this is the problem with Yea Forums
So many people here are obsessed with cementing their opinions as "objective fact" that they proceed to samefag over and over and over.
It's crazy how different the consensus looks if you restrict everyone to just one vote.

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>make jon into a god emperor targaryen the prince that was promised
>lol no just join the nights watch so you become a nobody again

how can anyone defend this ?

b-b-bbb-but OP told me everyone hated it!

>george literally told them how it ends
yes, and the books literally tell them all about euron and dorne and other shit, that doesnt mean they did that. Just because Dany burns kings landing doesnt mean that happens in the order it did in the show. Source for admitting it is in the books? Who said that? Even though I believe that's true again, it doesn't mean anything without context.

Wow fucking legendary commentary GODDAMN

>b-b-bbb-but OP told me everyone hated it!
OP is a retard who wants to destroy the show's reputation because he didn't like it.
And if we look at the chart it is pretty clear that MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT, but they stop short of saying it's terrible. Why that isn't enough for some people is beyond me.
For the record, I think the whole show is heavily overrated. Even 1-4.

I should have said "a" main character.

in order of most POV chapters it goes: Tyrion, Jon, Arya, Danearys.

the issue is that Dany's chapters still hasn't intersected with the other 3 at all, making her the only protagonist of her locale. she pretty much has her own plot strand.

people don't remember this now but a large focus of the whining about AFFC/ADWD was that book readers thought she was taking too long to get to Westeros and sort everything out. she was perceived as wasting her time in Meereen and if anything not being ruthless ENOUGH.

now the show is out everyone's suddenly convinced that she was always mad and that her arrival in Westeros was always going to be bad. well the writers of the show don't seem to have realized that despite being in weekly contact with George because they were depicting her as a hero until pretty much the second half of this season.

she wasn't always mad, but that was in the trajectory of her potential character arc. We just needed more time to get there. In the hooks she will be in westeros much longer than just 12 episodes and we will thus get to see the transformation occur much better

I'm saying that it won't work, and that I fully believe GRRM might not realize it doesn't work.

this

people are underestimating just how much pacing is responsible for what went wrong in the show.

Agreed.
Dany being endgame makes sense, but it needs to be better fleshed out.

It works for me even in the show I just think it needs to not travel at the speed of light.

> "I've been telling you for 20 years that winter was coming. Winter is the time when things die, and cold and ice and darkness fill the world, so this is not going to be the happy feel-good that people may be hoping for. Some of the characters [are] in very dark places. .... Things get worse before they get better, so things are getting worse for a lot of people."
The fat man himself.

>it won't work
to each his own I guess. I'm personally glad NK is not final boss because I didn't invest this much time in this stuff for it to end as a transformers movie.

Have sex Incel

You know what, you might be right. George might have gotten himself involved into something that's above him. This has happened before with other writers and is part of the reason Tolkein only has 4, maybe 5 books that are relevant in pop culture out of the many he made (LOTR was never his favorite) but I'm willing to give it a chance and see first.

>before they get better
your quote itself

>just because retarded DnD made the others into a shitty zombie villain means that the books will have them the same way and therefore they should not be the final villain despite being built up that way
god you people are dumb

they're not the final villain because that's not how the story ends
It has nothing to do with what you or I want.

its LOST all over again...we will be hearing about GOT until the CIA shut down Yea Forums

This is literally all one person agreeing with himself. Yikes. Even if it's not, linking to a poll that only 30 people have answered and using that as proof is pretty weak.

>this somehow cancels out the obvious implication that the others are going to fuck everyone up
and your basis for this is two hacks' interpretation of a series whose plot they have already proven they have zero issue changing in order to pander to wide audiences. You have no fucking clue

>that was in the trajectory of her potential character arc.

well that trajectory needed to start earlier to be acceptable to the audience. in the books the earliest point you can claim for it to have begun is A Storm of Swords.

before Astapor all she's done is burn a witch who killed her baby and some warlocks who were trying to kill her.

You're all partly wrong.

Television and Literature are distinctly different mediums in the same ways that Video games or [enter art type] are. The show would have benefitted from the Walkers being the final threat. They even invented a character, the Night King, to give more of a face to them.
The books however would do a better job with the ending we saw in the show, albeit with changes. George is taking forever to set up the Others climax then after it's done and we start wrapping the story up, Dany will be the main antagonist. She will get more than one episode's worth

she's already on the trajectory even in the books. Dance with Dragons made it pretty clear

SEX IS REALLY OVERRATED...EVEN WHEN YOU ARE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY

I don't agree with what he did. But it was probably for the better since the queen was a crazy person who would kill more and more innocents. I feel bad for Aegon Targaryen. He didn't want to be king, he didn't want to kill her. He only wanted people to be alive and happy. What a great dude. You shouldn't hate him.

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>everyone that disagrees with me is one person
As someone that does agree with you and thinks the show has been shit normie bait since season 2, please stop. You're making us look bad.

I voted for "Disappointing but it's not that bad"
I'm surprised how many people agree with me.

she burns down one white village and the entire world is upset...she burns down several black and brown villages and the world looks the other way

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I voted meh because that's my honest opinion. I kind of feel that way about the whole second half of the show. The show I loved died after season 4, but I never hated it. It's not trash television.

>The finale is decisively even between people that are ok with it and not.
Where have you been these last few weeks? How many posts and videos did you have to ignore?

>these idiots that thinks the NK was supposed to be the final boss
Congrats on missing the point of the entire series.

>it doesn't come close to ruining the show.
Aside from the part where it abandons everything good about the show and wastes the characters.
Yeah, you clearly missed the point. It seems you're just upset people are interrupting your shit-eating session.

clearly /our gal/

based

I'm dl'ing the whole series again to give it one last definitive go.
I'll be honest, I loved this show. It's miles ahead of anything I've ever watched on television.
I'm not denying that the writing took a hit after season 4, or that they might have rushed to complete the story, but ultimately they delivered nothing short of spectacular.
I understand why people are pissed too, they invested so much into the characters and the story over the past eight years that they felt underwhelmed by the conclusions to certain story arcs.
P.T Barnum said that you can't please all the people all the time. (Paraphrasing like mad here!) So I guess with a following as huge as Thrones had there's always going to be some critics who band together to decry it.
And fair play to them, it'll keep the discussion going long after the show has ended. Yea Forums is still so shell shocked that nearly every other thread is talking about it still.

just to be clear: I'm saying it doesn't make sense at all and you are all wrong.

Jaime and Theon both start as antagonists and trend protagonist-wards. Davos doesn't personally function as an antagonist to Tyrion when he attacks KL with Stannis. Tormund isn't a POV; Tyrion, Arya and Jon are all grey protagonists like Dany.

sure, GRRM could make Dany a full antag, but it's not going to work and it's going to suck no matter how he tries to manage the transition because he didn't set it up correctly from the start. that's all she wrote.

ok user, in your opinion, we are all wrong and you're right. got it

Danny was trying to establish and Empire. She was a Cesar.

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He says it's not literally the worst thing ever when no one said otherwise to begin with. Then he goes on to say that the show was not ruined, in other words, what was important about the show was preserved in the 8th season, which is blatantly false, and then he calls people unhinged for disagreeing. That's almost literally telling people
>DON'T CRITICISE
>DON'T COMPLAIN

>"us"
Not him, but you don't speak for me, faggot, the guy is samefagging. The show has also been shit since season 5, what are you on?

>the conclusions to certain story arcs.

all of them

don't let the door hit you on the way out, dragoncuck. Daenerys would have let turk niggers rape every white hole in the continent and onions knight was this close to letting her sub saharan niggers fill the reach. Daenerys was a convenient pawn to kill the dead and deserves no thanks. Go fucking kill yourself right now.

don't watch the show but Bronn becomes Lord of Highgarden?
that's so fucking stupid
it's like they're setting up the most unstable Kingdom possible

I've re-watched the first four seasons about four times, after that subsequent seasons only had single viewing.

>poll of over 2,201 people
>63% liked it the finale with only 10% not liking it at all

hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/how-divisive-was-game-thrones-finale-viewers-were-mixed-poll-finds-1213014

reddit btfo

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>I'm dl'ing the whole series again to give it one last definitive go.
>I'll be honest, I loved this show. It's miles ahead of anything I've ever watched on television.
>I'm not denying that the writing took a hit after season 4, or that they might have rushed to complete the story, but ultimately they delivered nothing short of spectacular.
This seems to be the general consenses I'm seeing as well.
>Yea Forums is still so shell shocked that nearly every other thread is talking about it still.
Yea Forums is a negative choice chamber with zero credibility. They obsess over what normies like and yet watch the same shit. All you see here are endgame threads ripping endgame, /got/ threads ripping got, etc.

I liked it.
Season 8 is still a dud but the show went out on a somewhat ok note for me

don't forget: if the show ended the way George wants to end the books I'm also saying that George is wrong, and that the reason he can't finish the series is because he can't accept that he's wrong.

Even though all these posts have the same exact writing style? And are posted almost exactly after one another? Suuuuree.

George has frequently and vocally said he disagrees with what the show did. He also recently said his ending is different. Eat my ass.

Man it hasn't even been a month yet, and people are now defending this show's ending and the plot. Fuck you all.

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>George is wrong, and that the reason he can't finish the series is because he can't accept that he's wrong.

The delusion of Danyfags are reaching critical mass

the poll asks people 2 questions about whether they liked it, then asks the same sample a large number of much more specific questions about why they DIDN'T like it... almost as if the real reason for the poll was that they knew people didn't like it and wanted to know why.

George is an Ass

Nah, I'm kidding lol George is the fucking man.

You are retarded. Critics hate this season also, its rotten rottentomatoes.com/tv/game_of_thrones/s08

hmmmmmm

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Wasn't the OP's original point that season 8 affected the rewatchability of the show? I agree that it did to some extent and that's entirely to blame on the structure and pacing of this last season. I don't think it was the worst shit ever but it was objectively a huge disappointment in terms of payoff.

But there's been definitely worse finales. I think the only reason the last episode is lower than Dexter's is because of entitled danyfags and seething normies. I loved Dany's arc personally and became a Danyfag and I wished they could have shown more of her antagonism though I have accepted her story was always meant to end in tragedy. The Starks got their Disney endings and Tyrion lived. Not terrible conclusions by any means, but the pacing and structure of season 8 was its downfall.

We need to have more faith in the Fatman to tell this story the correct way.

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check these dubz

I think she'll become somewhat of a villain in the books but not executed retardedly like in the show, D&D just had to oversell it cause they had no time

Nobody likes this season except mindless fanboys with less than 50 IQ, or biggest Stark fanboys. The thing is that nobody cares about Starks because they are terrible characters, so them getting happy ending is just like Ramsay would get happy ending. This is just one thing, the other is that this season is just terrible from writing point of view, its destroyed by critics, has worse review from them than lost last season, its destroyed by lore fags, its destroyed by everyone. And D&D are literally meme right now.

you know you can like something and still be disappointed right?

Yeah, to be fair, the ending is just too high-brow for as many people that watched the show. The sheer number of completely moronic fatheads who watched the show wanted Dany to take over Westeros and create a feminist utopia lol shit's so funny

lmao seething

Lardass described as as a "terrifying Dragon Queen" in character concept aka she's set up as an antagonist to the starks. There is NOT a main character other than Ned in the first book, but there are several POVs, Jon, Tyrion and Arya are the most important and the original "triangle." Sansa joined in when the lardass decided to make changes to her story.

By the way, Emilia Clarke had the show runners change the ending portrayal (and who knows what else) to make Dany more "sympathetic". So who knows what cuts they did. Jon actor was pretty mad so whatever happened affected his character.

Agreed. I hate to say things like "People don't get it" but no one seems to even mention this stuff which appropriately ties the narrative together.

The finale (last two seasons, really) were rushed, which caused a natural drop in quality. The narrative still makes sense as a whole, and I imagine two novels will be enough time for GRRM to re contextualize it so it works...

...unless GRRM is like "Oh, people didn't like the TV ending so I'll just kill everyone at the end now."

Did Jon know about the prophecy? the Azor Ahai?

Nobody cares about Starks and Tyrion. Starks are absolutely shit characters right now, and Tyrion dont desreve happy ending looking how many wrong decisions he made.

Im not seething, just happy that D&D are literally joke right now. Last Jedi had at least good critics reviews, this has nothing. Nobody likes it.

the Hollywood Reporter selected parts of the poll that supported the story it wanted to tell.

I doubt 47% of the audience being satisfied with the finale is the number anyone wanted, but that didn't stop it from being spun as a positive.

the starks ended up being real pieces of shit

It's an objectively bad show based on the plot

source?

you can read the poll in this very thread, 63% liked the finale (which is apparently the most hated one)
so going by that even more people would have liked the previous episodes

You are just a small minority living in an echo chamber with other seething danyfags, maybe you will get over your loss in time

Hahaha how does so many of you fags support this post. Loooool . Final was dog shit literally worse than a fucking CW superhero show. Fuuuuggg youuu

he deviated from that concept too much when he came to write the books if he wants it to work in the series as a whole.

Based Jon is the ultimate hero of westeros stay fucking SEETHING

>tfw GoT had such a cataclysmal shitty ending, that actually liking cloakshit is now the counter-culture opinion.

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It seemed like a compromise ending. lol Tyrion foreshadowed it when he said in a good compromise no one's happy. (again, paraphrasing.)

there was pool after the episode on Yea Forums and last episode has the worst rating in the entire season and series, so these few faggots contrarians with low iq who try to make impression than this board liked it, can really fuck off, because its universally hated.

fuck off shills

The finale was 77% silence kek

What qualities of a good king does Bran even have? Charisma? Leadership? Morality? Ingeniuty? Bran has nothing that would make him a good king. Especially not in a post-war setting where a strong monarch is required to keep shit in place.

What was the point of burning the iron throne if you're just going to continue the same type of government anyways? That whole scene becomes useless because all that's removed is the chair, not the actual system

Why did nobody elect Jon as king given how he not only has the best claim but also according to the show's characters best qualities of a king?

Why would Sansa want North to be independent of the South when the king in the South is already Lord of Winterfell?

Why would the other lords (some went unnamed because lol worldbuilding) accept Bran as king? Yara outright says they wanted Dany as queen and not some Stark cripple. Why would the other regions accept an unknown Stark cripple as king? And where are the hundreds or so other lords of the realm? Surely they too would be interested in what goes down here, not just Stark relatives.

There is no reason to believe anything in this world even changed. Hell Jon even ended up where he started. If you simply apply the show's own logic on its ending, you'd realize how quickly civil war would inflict this extremely loose government. Fuck this shit.

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>After breaking arya neck in her fail assassin attempt he turns to bran and slowly walks towards him
>Bran who has seen everything. Has gone so far into the past long before night king and even children of the forest even existed and seen things not even night king can imagine. Who have learned all secrets of past civilizations
>Brand scared face stares at the night king one last time before his lips turns into a smirk and his eyes turning white
>Night king: ''N-Nani?''

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absolutely seething, go cry into your Dany love pillow some more

Jon snow is a bastard and a traitor and an oathbreaker

but 63% liked it, since you want to ignore that it seems like you just want to spin it as negative doesnt it?

What pool, this hollywood reporter with 2000 voters, kek you are so delusional. there was pool on Yea Forums and its the most hated episode of the entire series.

I give you some other pools:
181000 voters 4.3 imdb.com/title/tt6027920/?ref_=ttep_ep6

rotten tomatoes: rottentomatoes.com/tv/game-of-thrones/s08
critics: 53 % rotten full season
audience: 36 % rotten
last two episodes 48 % rotten

metacritic.com/feature/game-of-thrones-series-finale-review
2.6 -The Throne
3.3 -The Bells
2.9 - The Last of the Starks

I can give you some reviews from youtube critics also, most of them shit on this season. ASOIAF fans shits on this season. Its a terrible season of television and one of the worst ending in history, on par with Dexter.

Am i autistic for really disliking Arya killing the night king?
Like, shouldn't the one who ends that thread have some connection to the NK? like Bran or Jon? or even The KingSlayer?

He is your King and you will kneel to him!

Nah, it's universally hated.

change.org/p/hbo-remake-game-of-thrones-season-8-with-competent-writers

>MY REDDIT POLL SAYS IM RIGHT, GO LOOK ON /R/FREEFOLK, LITERALLY 100% SAYS GOT IS THE WORST THING EVER, EVER.
>MUH DANY DESERVED BETTER THAN THIS

have sex

tbqh it would have been cool if the knights of ren landed next to the dragon and lightsabred him in the balss

OATHBREAKER IS IT!!!!

they wouldn't outside of the Riverlands as he's half Tully and maybe the Vale because his cousin is Lord Paramount
>Dorne has no reason to remain part of the Kingdom, they joined late and only through marriage and are the most culturally separate outside of the North and Iron Islands
>The Stormlands have some bastard as their Lord but may still be too weak and divided. I
>In the show Bronn is the Lord of Highgarden which is utterly stupid, the Tyrell's already are in a somewhat precarious situation as Lord Paramounts as they aren't descended from Garth Greenhand and no way would they support an upjumped sellsword as Lord Paramount let alone a Lord
>Crownlands have only ever been under Targaryen, and then Baratheon control, may not or may be indifferent to a ruler like that
>The Lords of the islands sworn to Dragonstone are largely Valyrian in ancestry and would not want a non-Targaryen
>The Iron Islands wouldn't want some Northern cripple, let alone a foreign ruler anymore
the kingdom would fall apart in a few years easily

>kills the NK 1 v 1
>she doesn't even care
>no one mentions it again
We are all autistic about this, user.

>change.org/p/hbo-remake-game-of-thrones-season-8-with-competent-writers pool
>posts a petition

are you literally retarded?
also do you know how many people watch GoT world wide? that 1.5m is less than 0.5% of the viewers so a tiny minority
it means absolutely nothing

Why can't Dabid and Dan into ASOIAF? It's criminal how they have less understanding and love of it than random forum posters.

forgot the Westerlands
>have the dwarf son who killed their last Lord Paramount as his successor
>of a family like Lannister that has loads of branches
yeahhh

This is how bad GOT season is compared even to LOST last season:

LOST: rottentomatoes.com/tv/lost/s06
GOT:
rottentomatoes.com/tv/game_of_thrones/s08

This is a paid shill post. Not because of what it says but because of how it says it.

>kills the NK 1 v 1
This bothers me so much. Why not have it be a teamwork kill? At least make Theon die fighting the NK at the same time as Arya while Jon and/or Dany fight zombie Vyserion with another dragon above.

Only autists hated Lostkino.

youtube.com/watch?v=twHXrNtG-7c

Still brings tears to me eyes thinking about the tragic fate of the cast.

The worst thing about the 1v1 is that it makes all Dany's sacrifices useless because she could've just done nothing and have Arya pull the same move. It was all for nothing. All of it. Arya was the nuke they had all along.

>HIMYM
Back to r e d d I t

i personally like LOST last season, is so much better than GOT S08. The only thing i can compare GOT S08 is Dexter last season, and even with that comparison i wasnt that emotionally invested with Dexter so GOT ending is much more trash for me, i just feel like i wasted my time watching this garbage.

What sacrifices, she can pull infinite new troops out of her ass at the plot's convenience.

>night king stabbed in the chest with dragonglass
>D&D say he needed to be stabbed where he was created to be unmade
>stabbed in stomach, with valyrian steel not dragonglass

Such a dissapointment.
Also, would a couple of duels with some whitewalkers be too much to ask for as well?
Those were the coolest parts of Hardhome.

>RT scores
Lol
literally 3 people have reviewed the season negatively, Chris fucking Stuckman for one of them. But if you want to use RT scores on a sample size of 5 then yeah it got reviews averaging 7/10.
Not quite the terrible your making it out to be though is it?

We had to end it with the dagger that started it all.
It's like poetry, it rhymes.

>emotionally invested

ah here we have it, hit the jackpot here
you overly emotional because it didnt go the way you wanted it to so you lash out. Wonder if you were a Danyfag by any chance.....

I don't think you have any idea what "emotionally invested" means.

>She sacrificed one of her precious dragons to save him from some ill-advised trip to the North
WHY did they have to go North to get a zombie anyway? Couldn't they just step out the gate just the farside of The Wall then kill someone, anyone, and that person would turn into a zombie? Seven Hells, they could have put the person in chains in a box with wheels before they killed them to make it real easy. Surely they had a spare prisoner of some kind around, or draw straws.

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Shhh, no time for thinking. This is Wight Kidnap Quest now.

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Holy shit are you fucking retarded, can you even defend this shitty season differently than MUH DANY MUH MUH ? Ofc i feel betrayed, i wasted my time for this piece of shit.

>I hope Jon Snow rots for what he did to Khaleesi.

He won't. Because its a fictional tv-show.
None of it is best on true events.

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>None of it is best on true events.

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Ending would've been much better, more realistic and more in keeping with the War of the Roses if he didn't kill her and did join her. The only tweaks you'd need is she only attacks the red Keep after the bells ring and innocents in there die and in this episode she recognizes that she fucked up, is remorseful, fears she's going mad and wants Jon to help her.

When they take the throne with the intent of breaking the wheel it'll up to the viewer to decide if Dany will ultimately go full bonkers, if they'll succeed, if Jon will have to kill her some day, if they'll be good rulers together or bad. We'd still have people scheming like Sansa or Tyrion instead of this Disney shit where it seems they'll rule wisely and well

Lol you fucking fag she didnt lost half her army, the dothraki literally regenerated to numbes greater than when they landed on the shore. Her army was actually bigger when she came to kings landing.
And the dragons? They died to give Drogon plot armor. Not even bran could find him. Her old tired cunt deserved to rot in hell for what she did to Varys

>Yea Forums is a negative choice chamber with zero credibility. They obsess over what normies like and yet watch the same shit. All you see here are endgame threads ripping endgame, /got/ threads ripping got, etc.

This really is hell isn't it?

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>the dothraki literally regenerated to numbe[r]s greater than when they landed
This. They almost all got slaughtered in the too dark to see shit war at WinterFell, but they by the time they get to Kings Landing theres more than ever. What did their horses eat at WinterFell anyway? Snow? Not to mention the Unsullied get on boats and leave at the end, where the fuck are the Dothraki? Did -they- get The Reach? They're going to need some females if they're going to settle there...

I don't understand how one can simply 'like' the final season. The quality of the show is amazing, obviously, and the drama is top notch. Also one of the biggest kino battles ever put on film IIRC.

But with so many favorite characters dying... Characters that people have grown to love. From Jorah to Missandei to Jamie. I'll use a word that I haven't seen yet itt: heartbreaking. Maybe a little maybe a lot depending on the person and how much memes they are on but heartbreak is there. I expected Jon to kill himself after what he did but I realised that the D&D would've been chased by angry mobs in the streets if they did that. Realistically he would've wanted to kill himself, no question.

What is there to 'like' with Jon (savior character) killing the only other serious hope for the world? A woman that he loves. Family. Sure, it's GoT everything has to be bleak and dark but you can't expect everyone to love it. Especially when it all goes down the drain. Worse letdown than TLJ. It's somehow similar because it destroyed the concept of hope and new life, both as Jon and Dany's child and the new world. I guess I can consider myself 'subverted'

How can anyone rate this 10/10

>why yes i do think that Dumb and Dumber destroyed game of trones how did you know? Where are you?

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This.
I'm fairly certain I'll never watch an episode of this shitshow again

>Implying that you can't re-watch the good episodes from earlier seasons
>Hating the show for it
>Hating Jon Snow for bad writing
>Calling Daenerys "Khaleesi"
>Implying that "Beyond the Wall" is anyone's fault but that of D&D and Alan Taylor
>Implying that "The Long Night" is anyone's fault but that of D&D and Miguel Sapochnik
>Implying current traits and actions of the fictional characters within the story are responsible for the bad writing
>Implying Aegon Targaryen has a paternal claim to Winterfell
>Implying again that characters are at fault for the quantity of mistakes in the writing and production of the show
>Hating on Jon Snow again
>Implying the series is ruined because of actions made by the character Jon Snow, as portrayed by Kit Harrington and not because of the real actions of David Benioff, Daniel Brett Weiss and various other members of the direction and production team
>Making a thread about this

This is bait.

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The Night Watch killed Jon. The person that got revived was not Jon Snow but some sort of puppet from beyond the grave.