Why does everyone in Hollywood claim to be pro fat acceptance but they’re all rail thin themselves?

Tfw no giant ayy lmao karlie gf

Being fat is disgusting and no amount of lip service will change that.

Every person knows deep down inside that they're disgusting if they're fat.

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i don't think everyone in hollywood unilaterally claims to be pro fat acceptance while all being rail thin themselves
it's probably more accurate to say that some people in hollywood claim to be pro fat acceptance while some people in hollywood are rail thin, which is a much more honest question to answer: different people have different beliefs.

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Leftists are hypocrites. Always.

I see you're new to virtue signaling.

vir·tue sig·nal·ing
noun
noun: virtue signalling; noun: virtue signaling

the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.
"it's noticeable how often virtue signaling consists of saying you hate things"

When is Karlie going to star in an Aeon Flux reboot?

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Is it fair to say that the majority of people in this thread are virtue signaling to each other that they all hate liberals?

So nice compared to all of the pictures of lardass women that usually get posted here

that's from pretty early in her career , she's not that thin any more.

>why does a heavily left wing group of people not practice what they preach
Strange OP
same goes for right wing groups too

I'm not quite sure it applies when everyone is anonymous. You can't demonstrate yourself to have virtue when user (you) are indistinguishable from another user who exclusively braaap posts

>That bf%
>Still more boobs than some girls i fucked
Thats something i had never seen before

But the people in this thread are expressing that they all share the right beliefs for this board, if you express an unpopular belief (a liberal belief, such as fat acceptance, trans rights, immigration is good, etc) you'll be met with hostility for not falling in line with the virtues of the culture here though, right?

>you'll be met with hostility for not falling in line with the virtues of the culture here though, right?
It's less for not falling in line with virtues and more for being out of touch with reality. And if you want an actual debate against the norms here all you need to do is phrase your argument genuinely instead of firing off snippy meme arrow one liners.

You're insinuating that not agreeing with the culture of Yea Forums is akin to being delusional, though. Is that not outright hostility?
To your second point, have you ever presented a viewpoint here (specifically liberal) that goes against the virtues of this board and been met with acceptance? From experience mostly I just get told that I'm a discord tranny.

Skinny Karlie would have been perfect, but she's not as skinny anymore

No the same user but here is my answer:
This site is not a censored hugbox with upvote/downvote and people are anonymous, so when one supports a retarded and toxic idea like fat acceptance, he is answered with what people really think.
Ideas like fat acceptance are not popular and are forced upon others by activists, supported by corporations and parties, who will do everything to ruin your life for just for giving your opinion. They have no power here.

If you think voicing strong disagreement without threats or slurs is hostility sure. Pretty on par with the real world liberal mentality where just disagreeing with someone who is female/minority/trans is automatically misogynistic/racist/transphobic before context and arguments are explored.

As for the second I am an atheist and all I have to do to get a productive discussion with Christians is write genuine discourse. If I fire off one liners I get nothing but fedora memes back, which is appropriate. The reason you get told to dilate is probably because, if you're like 95% of the people who post liberal ideas here, you start with some snide variation of "sweetie have sex". Not sure how many of those are genuine or baiting though.

If you write out long, thoughtful posts, and use a tone of "I disagree, here is why, can you explain why you feel otherwise" as opposed to "have sex incel I can't even believe one can hold views so problematic" you will probably get better results. And for the record I have never seen modern liberal views written in the former tone, barring communists defending their position, or defense of libertarian tier liberal views. Anyone pro trans and 3rd world immigration starts off at the very best with calling everyone who disagrees with them /pol/.

Fashion industry isnt the same as Hollywood lol, it’s centre of gravity is continental Europe, far fewer fatties there

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Here's an article that says fat shaming decreases the life spans of overweight people compared to overweight people who have not been shamed
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4636946/
and an article that roughly outline that health care professionals care less about obese people than non-obese people
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4636946/

All of this research I'm tossing at you has nothing to do with the acceptance side of obesity, but instead is pointing out the negative outcomes of being based & red-pilled towards obese people. Fat acceptance likely isn't a unilateral position where everyone on the side of the left stands for gaining weight as yas queen it's healthy, but instead is more about being sensitive to people with a weight crisis.

I don't and I research my positions about being pro-transexuality if that's what we are discussing, if you want to argue that sure.
As for your perceived left-hostility about these issues on Yea Forums, just as a challenge go into threads on Yea Forums and see how many threads free of any anti-trans sentiment you can find -- it's probably minimum 30%, and most of these threads are probably not related to transexuality at all.

Obesity is in the same camp as addiction, we need to treat fat people like addicts.

Heroin addiction isn't accepted, why should obesity be?

Well to start off you're a minority, hope you realize that. The vast majority of people arguing for leftist perspectives, hell any perspective in general are exactly as I described, and no one wants to write thoughtful discourse to respond to green text one liners. That's why you end up with threads full of "have sex" vs "dilate".

Another thing to realize is that your milder stance on an issue like, say, fat acceptance has been entirely overshadowed by the more radical elements in the public eye so you have to start off by clarifying your position. For example, when you say that you're for fat acceptance, unless you clarify that you're not the "yasssss queen diabetes is sexy!" type, you will invariably be lumped in with the science denying hamplanets who insist that fat is healthy. Especially true when you're trying to argue to a community with a different consensus. If I went on Reddit or Twitter or whatever to argue against supporting transitioning I'd have to clarify that I'm not disagreeing with it from a Bible thumping trabsphobe's perspective but rather on medical/scientific grounds. Not that it would do me any good because they'd just ban me.

Of course, 4 Chan's lack of censorship means you'll encounter hostility even when you do argue politely, and at times you points might get dismissed and you'll just get a > in return, but that's the trade off for being able to argue against consensus without being silenced. A good trade imo. All you have to do is ignore the non arguments and keep engaging with people who respond genuinely, and you do get those. Communist vs Capitalism debate threads on /pol/ and Yea Forums are always a mix of > punctuated shit flinging and genuine discussion, even if the latter is also sometimes mixed with hostility

There's research that even goes into the relation between obesity and addiction here
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2910406/
but, I think it's somewhat insincere to imply that we help genuine addicts through shame and exclusion instead of making efforts to help them through an addiction, part of which is by de-stigmatizing the problem.

I want to address the lack of censorship thing primarily, and I'll use Christopher Hitchens as an ironman figure for the free speech argument. Hitchens argues that free speech is not only the right to say what we want, but also the right to have these thoughts heard -- if we lack this second half of free speech, we can consider privately thinking to ourselves as free speech even though perhaps we're locked away in an a fascist government cell where none will ever hear us.
So, Hitchens goes on to make the case that marginalized beliefs need extra protection to guarantee their free speech: holocaust deniers, for instance, need extra protection to have their thoughts heard. Hitchens also makes the claim that dismissing people as islamophobes, racists, bigots, etc, is a micro-aggressive attempt to 'silence' the speaker by dismissing their viewpoint as not worth being heard.
As an example: imagine a sincere misogynist in a feminist theory class. Very likely they won't speak up about their beliefs because no one in there wants to hear it and likely all that will happen is they'll be removed from the class.
Yea Forums fails this model because if you support transexuals or promote equality or whatever libcuck agenda we want to go with, often all you're met with is dismissive titles such as dilate/npc/tranny (trans is the big one here now)

As for the trans-stuff, science supports them if you want to go into it. I can link some studies but I'm at the character limit.

>tell everyone else it’s okay to be fat and you’re beautiful at every size!
>everyone else gives in to their worst impulses, balloons in size
>you stay the same weight
>look even better by comparison

duh

Being obese is a red flag, socially. Because its implied they don't have self control over their diet. It objectively makes people look worse, this is across the board in almost every society as well. Obesity is frowned upon in any modern society. Justification for it is simply coping with their lack of willpower to change.

Regarding Hollywood if they say something, it's because it's convenient. They do not care about people in general, they just need their money.

What I don't understand is why so many have problems with overweight people existing in the first place. As long as they don't bother you...

I don't think fat acceptance denies any of those statements. Fat acceptance rather has to do with reversing stigma surrounding obesity so the negative outcomes of obesity can be lessened and healthier weights can be obtained without social pressure.
So the studies I linked mostly covered being bullied over weight equating to a shorter lifespan compared to obese people who weren't being bullied, and a study (there's a few on this) that mentioned that health care professionals care less about obese patients than non-obese patients -- there's even more studies that point out that health care professionals rarely schedule follow-ups with obese patients after seeing them once, and another study that suggests only 5% are successful in losing weight.
Fat acceptance is more-so about reversing those societal norms you mentioned so fat people feel less ashamed about talking to a doctor about their weight, going to the gym, buying healthier foods, and whatever else, without being judged/ashamed of how they may be perceived.

Ok, but why do you care what people achieve in their life? It's not like you care about other people...I don't understand.

Because it fat acceptance/health at every size promotes delusion. To accept delusion is insanity.

Any tips on how to lose fat?

get a bike and ride around
eat no junk food

Delusion of what? Acceptance is not celebration. It's not like fat is good, it's more like fat is not the end of the world. Obese person trying to run a marathon without training, that's delusion. Obese person trying to live as normal as possible without being insulted, well, maybe that could be achieved...

Fast

humans have lived the majority of their lifespan as hunter-gatherers, which means they involuntary fasted looking for next meals. their physiology adjusted for this over thousands of years.

avoid carbs as much as possible

OH NO NO NO

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>why are you pro cripple acceptance but not crippled yourself?

Don't do this. It lowers your metabolism, you don't get enough daily nutrients or protein and it's dangerous

>if we lack this second half of free speech, we can consider privately thinking to ourselves as free speech even though perhaps we're locked away in an a fascist government cell where none will ever hear us.
Here is where I think your misunderstanding lies. Being locked in a cell is censorship, or rather an enforcement of it. Censorship doesn't (necessarily) mean having your tongue ripped from your head so that you are incapable of speech.

Being pelted with insults is not censorship, nor does it deny your free speech. Being disagreed with, even with poor arguments, is not censorship. Being handwaved away by those you convey your ideas to is not censorship, so long as you are allowed to convey them. Here your ideas are allowed to be heard and your articulation of them is not prohibited but your audience is allowed to not listen if they so choose. You are not entitled to that audience's attention, that is up to them.

Now, if you were to be punished for your opinions, in this case banned from using whatever forum be it 4 Chan or reddit for no reason other than your opinion, that would be censorship. You are denied even an attempt at reaching out to an audience because your access to the platform is being curtailed. No matter how much you get told to go back to discord or to dilate, or however much your arguments are ignored, so long as you are not banned you are not being silenced. It's the difference between police hauling you off a street corner when you're playing violin and being allowed to play the violin but the passerby put their headphones in when they come across you because they think your music sucks.

it has more to do with aesthetics, fat people are not aesthetically pleasing socially and should be derided due to their inability to overcome their addiction.

Fat acceptance goes hand in hand with justifying bad choices. You may think it doesn't but most fat acceptance groups are almost always trying to justify their addiction.

>lowers your metabolism
what a fucking meme
look up intermittent fasting, retard

Cardio. Healthy eating is important but one singular diet doesn't vibe with every single person. Find small ways to cut out unhealthy foods, cardio 5 days a week, mix in lifting once you have lost weight. I lost over 100 pounds without some fancy diet and just doing 5 days of cardio. Lifting will make you look sexy after you lose the fat.

As for the trans stuff, we're already dangerously close to having this thread pruned for off topic so maybe make one exclusively for that on /pol/.

CICO. Fasting and Keto help you eat less but they're not necessary as the underlying principle is still CICO. Make sure you do a sustainable 300-500 Cal a day deficit so that you don't do something retarded like starve yourself then bounce back by binge eating, and if you fast follow a proper protocol starting with something mild like 16/8 before jumping into longer periods.

Weight training also helps because having extra lean mass will require your body to burn off calories just to sustain it

You don't go on a diet, you have to change your diet forever. Exercise wont help until you do that first. Cutting liquid calories is the easiest first step.

>should be derided
This is stupid. Why do you even care about other people's appearance? Same for their bad habits...Do they affect you? You don't like fat people, is that their problem or your problem? Do you usually tell people they're ugly when you cross them? or fat?

Well my understanding comes from Hitchen's understanding, who is a fairly prominent free speech advocate.
The cell analogy is used because, suppose you are in a hypothetical world where free speech is guaranteed and understood in that everyone can say whatever they want free from persecution, however not a single person in this world listens to specifically you. They hear you, but they never respond or engage with you, and as far as you can tell they never consider your ideas.
What is different here, from being a cell? To me, this is what Yea Forums is for dissenting viewpoints; I concede that obviously some people will listen and obviously some will engage respectfully with the fringe viewpoints, however (as odd as this might sound) certain aspects of free speech naturally infringe on the rights of other aspects of free speech.
So, for instance: racism minorities.
Advocating and platforming racist ideologies/speech rejects pro-minority ideology/speech. In a society where minorities are tolerated more than racists, racists need extra protection to have their views heard and expressed (and again, vice-versa).
If one of these infringing ideologies gains too much support from the majority, and the lesser-ideology is denied protection from the majority, the other side faces censorship from discourse by virtue of intolerance instead of legislation (then, supposedly if we entertain a thought experiment where a fascist group gains power after obtaining majority support, we can likely assume the minority viewpoint gets censored under legislation as well).
So I concede if we consider censorship purely if there's threat of violence/punishment to deter certain aspects of speech, then you are completely correct. Personally I think it's more of a social gradient, and to me I think Yea Forums's community passively engages in censorship by dismissing other viewpoints too willingly.

I gotta go but I had a nice talk with you.

Why shouldn't I care? Obese people need to realize what's wrong with them. They're being enabled, otherwise.

Do you think deriding them works? I tell you, it doesn't work.

Just be muscular and then have people compliment you or be scared of you all the time.

I don’t care when I don’t have to deal with them, but when they’re sitting next to me/on me or I can smell them I dislike them. Same as you’d dislike a smelly hobo

pls giv alien gf

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I have a hard time imagining at this point Hollywood isn't a monolith where any outward display of wrongthink leads to immediate ostracization

>What is different here, from being a cell
In a cell you are quite literally barred from a platform to voice your ideas. You are restrained, unable to take a podium or hold an assembly, forcibly removed from your peers. Here you are in the midst of your peers, it's just that they don't necessarily want to listen. 4 Chan is your podium, and you are free to lecture from it, it's just that your audience might be yelling insults at you. However, it's not like you're being prevented from holding the lecture to begin with. Your ideas don't get lost on 4 Chan, because unless a mod or janny removes your post I can still read it even if you have 20 replies telling you to dilate, and respond to it. It's not even quite like the lecture analogy because dissenting opinions cannot talk over you but rather are forced to coexist because people can still read your posts even if other posts outnumber yours.

Censorship requires for one to be either denied the ability to voice opinions and/or the platform to do it on. I do not agree with a definition that a community's refusal to listen is a component of censorship. Censorship is done at the level of the speaker's mouth rather than the audience's ear so to speak.

>I gotta go but I had a nice talk with you.
Alright, same here. Like I said, if you start off with a less inflammatory tone and open with argumentation rather than judgement you tend to get at least a few genuine discussions amongst the sea of shitposts.

Deriding them is just as bad, or maybe even more damaging, then telling someone everything is fine the way it is when it isn't. Somewhere between shaming and healthy at any size.

>or maybe even more damaging
less damaging*
sorry for the retard moment

it worked for me, i was obese, my self loathing kept me disciplined.

Why are conservatives so fat?

Freedom is high in calories.

If you like being insulted, good for you. However, I don't see why people feel they have the right to insult someone because ugly or overweight...

i wanna fugg that skeleton

You can change your weight dumbass
Good luck regrowing an arm though

I just did 10 rounds of 1 min jump rope. It's a start. I feel invigorated. Now to start IF. Hope to lose 20 lbs by August