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>propaganda
>feminism

HBO is working with Ukranian separatists to make a documentary and you are focused on the character that is a woman?

Fact: Bureaucrats Are The Most Powerful Race In The World

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>HBO is working with Ukranian separatists
What?

>hey guise, HBO gives you the honest story and would never push propaganda.

blocks your path

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prepare to be coaled big man

There's a huge description of the events before, during and after the disaster by Davletbayev (turbine shop chief engineer) with lots of technical details. It's in Russian and too big to translate, but you may try to Google-translate it.

He also managed to survive ARS by having shitload of blood transfusions.

accidont.ru/evid01.html

Russianfag.

leave

"I'm in a hospital, what could possibly go wrong!?"

*cut to the funeral*

Corruption was everywhere in the USSR. People had to give "gifts" to their doctors if they wanted decent care, pay off even low-level officials if they wanted their paperwork processed and so on. It's actually a big problem now, because corruption is so deeply embedded into people's consciousness that any government initiatives in combating it (if they exist) can have only limited effect.

me not pictured

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cry more, faggot

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Filters save these precious threads desu

Why is this show so popular on Yea Forums? Is it because it lends itself to excellent memes?

its a copy paste, you can see it in the last thread too. dont mind him.

it's actually well done, memes, interesting discussion when you ignore the spergs

based day after poster

Because it's good.

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HBO is priming you to believe corruption was so common for when the main character tells you the reactor blew up because of lies and secrecy, even though in real life he said it was sabotage.

>when you ignore the spergs
agreed
i don't know how anyone can defend such garbage plot devices as a non-existent female composite character

besides them shitting the thread up, it's fairly comfortable.

Tell me about the nuclear plant workers! Why do they wear the hats?

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Every person on Earth should know these three men's names almost as well as their own. Why is it not so? They saved millions going into a situation that they had to have known (or believed) was going to kill them in one of the most painful ways you could die.

you're saying he said irl, or that you believe that the explosion was caused by americans?

what propaganda are they pushing user
redpill me

Why didn't they just put all the nuclear reactors in Central Asian deserts instead?

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No one needs electricity in Central Asian deserts. Plus there's a plenty of gas and oil nearby.

spergs meaning you and those like you

>HBO is priming you to believe corruption was so common
but it was. and it still is. it's always going to be there in any post socialist or communist country. that's the way it works.

Easily disposable clothes in case of dust contamination.

Natshka the cleaning lady was tired of constantly sweeping up all the hair that was falling out.

>even though in real life he said it was sabotage.
wot?

He said in his notes that the flaws with the reactor were known since 1963 and solutions were proposed as early as 1971 that weren't implemented until after the dissolution of the soviet union. the other 3 reactors in Chernobyl were upgraded in the 90s and continued operating until 2000. Theres still 11 RBMK running to this day.

No water. NPP's need lots of water.

CIA?

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>do you feel in charge

Doctor says my condition's not great, but not terrible

why are these guys such chads?

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As a russian lawyer working closely with governmental authorities I've overheard some woman ranting at a government office that with all this "anti-corruption shmuck" she can't "pay anyone" to get her shit done in due time and process. Common folk really sees anti-corruption initiatives here as harmful believing they narrow possibilites of communing with authorities en masse.

BLYAT

Gotta light?

1) You need a huge body of water near the powerplant.
2) No one needs that much power in a desert
3) If something goes wrong then the wind will carry it all over the world anyway.

wow!
cry more, liberal queer

Only say this on a shitty streaming site at SD. Where can I get it in HD? Just Blu-ray?

Russian history of corruption is amusing. It always was big at the times of feudalism, grew bigger at the time of absolute monarchy, blew 4 times bigger in soviet times, and now 60% of richest russians actually are strongly tied with government/politicians.

Would have you kept fishing, Yea Forums?

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Why not put them in space?

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BASED orange phones.

Ignoring the fact that it was a nuclear explosion, surely if the roof of the building you're fishing next to exploded and then caught fire you'd leave. Like, just a normal fire

>it was a nuclear explosion
It wasn't.

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Explosion with nuclear bits, whatever

just find the reaction to the woman way over the top and it ruins the treads. fucking unironic manbabies.

Ukrainian separatists were working with the CIA to keep Russia off of nuclear and on coal. Theres no definite answer as to who ordered the "safety test" that exploited the known design flaws but there were hundreds of possible candidates who would stand to gain massively from the windfall of privatizing the largest energy sector in the second largest country in the world and hundreds more western executives that would be very interested in killing any alternative competition to supplying for example Germany.

They want you to think that it was pressure on everyday people from above and that any rational human would have accidentally blown up a reactor if they had to live under such an inefficient bureaucracy. The narrative is such that the reactor was fundamentally flawed but the information was kept secret to protect their image, which is false. Its total bullshit to make it seem like you cant do nuclear safely without Americas permission on loan from the IMF. Wall street doesn't want anyone getting electricity without them taking a percent.

>no way to transfer energy back to earth
>it eventually will fall back to earth, you had to monitor it and calculate the estimated location 200-300 years later
>once it fall back, the wind will carry it all over the world anyway

Sounds like you never fished

No shit, they were upgraded to lower their originally high positive void coefficient, which is universally considered a very bad thing in nuclear reactors. The West knew RBMK reactors were fucking dangerous, but they were cheap so the USSR didn't care.

I'm Czech, so I can sympathize. Our government addressed corruption in the 90s by banning all "gifts" to people in power or service sector altogether - no flowers, no chocolate, no nothing, no matter how close you are to your doctor or teacher. People grumbled at first, but it worked and low-level corruption completely disappeared within a few years.

Why didn't they just build their reactors in the Arctic, and use the heat to melt the ice to cool the reactor?

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>Everything is going great honey. I'll be out in a week.

Cut to body being put in a metal casket, welded shut and concrete poured over that

>whatever
There is a huge fucking difference between a nuclear explosion and a dirty bomb.

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>The West knew RBMK reactors were fucking dangerous, but they were cheap so the USSR didn't care.
Exchange professors from the US and UK encouraged the installation of the VILNCPP.

>suffering three-to-six weeks from that

Does terminal case of acute radiation syndrome count as a do no resuscitate condition

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To power what?
And if anything goes wrong then all the shit will go straight to the ocean, and carried by the currencies all over the world. Bravo.

Take your meds, user.

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not everything is played by someone behind your back, /pol/
sometimes, accidents happen
youtube.com/watch?v=klsbzC9V0Yg

>Chads
More like Gary Stus.

RBMK reactors don't explode

>/pol/ poster defending bloated communist bureaucracy
are you posting here because someone over there rightfully told you to leave

what about the graphite on the ground

:^)

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Can we petition to restore the chernobyl power plant to working condition so we can all scream at each other as we run an irradiated nuclear power station.

Yet.. it did

>I know concrete. That wasn't concrete.

I read something today that these 3 guys (The suicide squad) are still alive today and where they were wasn't very radioactive?

Any truth to that?

CЦП-2316 - I don't see graphite on the ground

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Is there a video or mp3 of the Bнимaниe! Bнимaниe! repeating? I found the original recordings on youtube but they only say it once. I was hoping someone had made a looping track like what they used for the trailer ...

Yes let us add in literally hundreds of side characters. There wasn't a choice, and it isn't like she portrays herself as le stronk womyn. You're a faggot, Chernobyl is kino.

People bitching about her are as bad as those bitching about the british accents.

I-I pushed AZ-5......I did everything right

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if a hydrogen explosion cracks the reactor causing a fire the reactor itself didn't explode

One of them died in 2005, but Ananenko was still alive last year, yes. Not sure about the third.

Those who are willing to sacrifice their life for the others live the longest. It's simple.

>You're a faggot
>will fight tooth and nail for muh diversity
lol

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster

It's on the Wiki page.

Hundreds of side characters who then have to spend hours just talking to each other over the phone. Peak television direction right there.

Yet pieces of graphite were all over the place?

Could you walk 4 miles to work each day like Dyatlov, Yea Forums?

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so a fire caused hundreds of pounds of graphite to magically appear hundreds of feet away from the station outside

>miles

No, but it says 4 km which you can easily walk in about 40 min, alternatively I'd just buy a fucking bike.

Easily, it's good exercise.

4km is about 2.4 miles, I walk 'almost' that much to and from work every day.
I take my time, usually get a drink or smokes along the way, takes about 40~ to get there
I used to walk twice as much when I lived on the other side of town.
Its hell in the winter, but it feels good to eat literally whatever I want, and have it all burn off within a couple days

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>4km each way
8 kilometers is about 5 miles, not 8. And yes, I often walked to and from school, which was about 4 km away.

It says 4km BOTH WAYS you tards. That's actually closer to 5 miles, and that's not including however much he walked at the plant.

someone needs to caption that with /got/ and capeshit on the top phones and /rbmk/ on the buttons

i already do. 4.2 to work, 4.2 back home. add at least 2 walks with the dog as well. do americans think people dont walk?

Are you sure I can't get a dose of radiation from watching this miniseries?

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>...and then he said there’s graphite on the ground! What a fucking madman!

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This picture implies the core exploded.
RBMK reactors do not explode.

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You get radiation by watching anything on any device, it's just not ionizing radiation. Or so they want you to believe.

This.
Fucking Capitalist.

Da, you are correct comrade. RBMK design is flawless. RBMK reactors do not explode.

>The date is closer to 2050 than 1986

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If the reactor exploded Kiev would be a crater.

You're probably trolling but whatever.

Inexperience. The reactor was producing too much Xe-135 which was poisoning the reactor. Most of the time Xe-135 quickly "burns off" into Xe-136 inside the reactor, but since they were actively preparing to wind down the reactor, the rate of Xe-135 production outpaced the burn off rate. Xe-135 "poisons" reactors and reduces their power output. This wouldn't be a problem except for that a second power plant, a conventional one, went offline unexpectedly during peak evening usage and Kiev asked Chernobyl to increase power output to meet demand. So, while they are preparing to run a wind down test, they are asked to increase power significantly, all the while the reactor poisoning is getting worse and the reactor is winding down. In response they start pulling control rods. because of the Xe-135 poisoning the wind up is slower than expected, leading them to pull more and more control rods, to the point that out of the 211 rods, only 8 were inserted. This is when power started to rise significantly. The reactor started to increase in power by magnitudes. This would've been fine if the Emergency Core Cooling System hadn't been shut off for the test. The test also called for most of the main water pumps to be shut down.
1/2

what the fuck

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Dyatlov still wanted the test ran, so they ran the test. They shut off the pumps with the reactor running at break neck pace, which caused water to boil off, now, the RBMK is Russian and therefore shit, so it has a positive void coefficient, which basically means if you boil off water i.e have a cooling problem, reactor power will actually decrease. This is super illegal in the West for obvious reasons. Anyway so the power starts to climb out of control, so someone, we don't know who, decided to SCRAM the reactor, which in the show is shown as the AZ-5 button. This would've been smart if RBMK control rods weren't fucked beyond belief. There is a large graphite displacer on the bottom of the control rods for God knows what reason, which means that when you first insert a control rod, power production actually increases. When he SCRAMmed it, 203 control rods went into that fucking core, each one of them increasing output, which causes more boiling, which causes more output. It caused an extremely violent feedback loop that detonated the core, destroying the reactor. The last reading on No. 4 was 33k MW, which is about 3 times max operating capacity.

See, no stupid conspiracy, just stupid Russians.
2/2

Fuck, I meant to say increase. RBMKs will increase in power when water boils off.

>graphite
>reactor
>BOOM
>hydrogen
It all makes sense now

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The last episode has a great name: Vechnaya Pamyat - Everlasting Memory (or Eternal Memory)

So it was all just an easily avoidable feedback loop?

What.

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Who is this guy supposed to be? The head of the nuclear programme? Is the weird mark on his head meant to be radiation cancer?

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when is next chapter??

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She actually bribed hospital staff in reality though, they never let her get as close as she did to pizza mode Vasily though.

Its dick cheney

pays the bills vs passion project

That's Gorbachev - the last leader of the commie union

is stalin the boss?

You joke but plenty of normalfags, young and even not so young people will have no clue who the fuck that is

>the reactor actually exploded at 1:23 am

God, I hope the faggots just joking and trying the get yous

Yeah basically. The chief engineer was fucking 25. The guy who actually ran the plant got his degree from a mail in diploma mill, and to top it off, they knew a bout the feedback loop because of the control rods because another near-meltdown occurred a few years prior up near the Baltic while trying the EXACT SAME EXPERIMENT. There was no damage and no casualties, so it became a footnote on a safety report that not a single motherfucker read.

Also never disable the ECCS. The ECCS has its own generator, pumps, and water tanks that can flush the reactor with hundreds of cubic meters of water near instantly, which would've prevented the boil off and most of the feedback, however Dyatlov ordered the ECCS shut off for the experiment.

Honestly, that's the only way to actually improve your skills. Get out of your comfort zone, produce garbage. Lots of it. Eventually you'll make something good.

t: poltards ssething

>As a russian lawyer

Brol story, co.

can this show go on tv soon?

Yeah he's a comedian, literally. It was his idea to add the naked miners.

Do none of you retards listen to the podcast?

Is the miner saying “you don’t have enough bullets to kill all of us” a foreshadowing of them stopping the radiation “bullets” Legasov refers to?

Bravo Mazin

>he never beat Street Fighter II with Zangief
pleb

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none of this contradicts anything I said.

hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/NucEne/xenon.html

Xenon poisoning always occurs when you run an RMBK at low power. They knew this because it happened before and it was a widely known design flaw. Why order a low power test that requires the Emergency Core Cooling System to be shut off if they have known for over 20 years that when you go into low power the emergency system overrides and shuts down the core?

No because the heat exchanger was ultimately not needed

It's officially translated as Memory Eternal. It's a phrase usually said at the end of Eastern Orthodox funerals or memorial events.

Okay, I'll wait for you to post a single shred of evidence that the US did it.

Occam's Razor, retard.

Pretty sure they did, she says in the book that she went behind the curtains.

There’s absolutely no question the radiation is NOT ionizing. Physics just doesn’t allow it. The misinformation here is that only ionizing radiation is dangerous.

>Most dosimeters at Chernobyl couldn't even tell you when the radiation was significantly high.
Why the fuck? This seems like it'd be pretty goddamn vital, as in some sort of plant-wide monitoring system or at least a bunch of proper instruments would be ready at short notice. Even those radiation badges would have helped to warn people this wasn't a minor hiccup much faster.

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I heat exchanger another word for woman

>THERE IS NO CORE

what did he mean by this?

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They were doing a test that had been performed before and would've been performed safely if Kiev didn't need more power right in the middle of test preparations.

The US doesn't have to do it if they just tell the minister of coal about the design flaw.

>Occam's Razor, retard.

first episode states the higher ones were buried under the rubble and the highest one blew up and they didn't believe 200 roentgen one.

you die from light?

He was in shock

Because the only byproduct of non-ionizing radiation is heat and that only causes a problem at very high intensity (the sun) or the specific wavelength that excites water molecules (microwave ovens)

It means he's clearly in shock, get him out of here.

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>get him out of here.
do a trump edit

Are you implying that Russia has no such profession as lawyer?

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Huh. I am familiar with the Greek memorial service. Not surprised it is the same translated into Russian. It is pretty much the same ancient liturgies from the older Greek texts.

Yeah but only two? In the whole fucking plant? You'd think this is exactly the kind of instrumentation you'd have built within the system, ready to tell you where shit went down in the control room.

5G cell towers are giving kids brain cancer. Explain that shit.

sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/03/12/school-cell-tower-causing-cancer/amp/

>parents believe

It's just a few fire burns, i'll be right, bring that baby belly closer to me.

Do you feel in charge?

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Again, evidence.

Also you don't understand Occam's Razor. Whatever requires the least amount of assumptions is most likely the most correct.

How many unfounded assumptions do I have to make to believe the two reports that the international community did?

Now how many unfounded assumptions do I have to make to believe that the US worked with the Soviet minister of coal to undermine nuclear power by getting the minister of coal to somehow convince the workers at the Chernobyl NPP to run a dangerous test?

Conspiratards go to

50 degrees the miners worked in

Read the whole thing, then dig a little further on your own. It’s true, comrade.

Might also have something to do with the water they fucked up after a giant tire fire.

Yeah, they got it from the same Byzantine Rite.

Do you have a single fact, just one, to back this shit up? No, you don't, or you would've posted it.

This is the best laymans explanation I have seen so far. Thank you very much.

How would cancer manage to manifest in such a short time period? Sounds like horseshit

not who you're responding to but you really have no idea what you are talking about, please just stfu and either go back to school or read about what the electromagnetic spectrum is

also
>that link
lol

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>In spite of the fact that the necessary tests of turbogenerators were not carried out at the 4th station block, on December 31, 1983. Bryukhanov signed the act of commissioning the start-up complex on the block as fully completed. In order to bring the security system to working condition, in 1982-1985, under an agreement with the organization "Dontekhenergo", the turbo-generator was tested in the joint run-down modes with the load of its own needs, which were not successful and remained unfinished. Nevertheless, Fomin, Kovalenko and Dyatlov October 30, 1985. made a technical decision and gave an order to introduce the run-on mode on the 4th power unit into trial operation, without notifying the higher organizations of the upcoming tests when the power unit was taken out for the next repair.

You're missing the point in that the USSR cut corners on shit like that in just about everything.

For ememorial sergices, we usually get that along with part of this chant: youtube.com/watch?v=noetoc2W4Pc

Yes imo, Kino writing

is the show accurate? i might watch

>still no link to a source
>somehow attributes this to an international conspiracy
>not just a bunch of low-iq commies having no clue on how to run a low quality reactor
The mind boggles

I hope you’re right dude, but I understand the EM spectrum pretty damn well desu

From where did the two plant assistants look down into the burning reactor in the first episode? I'm so confused, I've seen pictures and this model but can't make sense from where did the look down, unless that part was made up.

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I'm seeing nothing about Americans and everything about USSR incompetence.

It has some weird shit, but it's okay.

>Boy oh boy I'm glad this excellent Soviet medical care has allowed me to recover from severe radiation poisoning

The show is probably the most accurate depiction in mainstream television. You won't get anything more accurate unless you read a book, listen to a podcast, or watch a documentary.

Is there anything forced in it?

Fomin was a fraud with a mail order degree

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He's undermining the fruits of his own labor.

I would guess it is by St John Chrysostom. I know much of the Orthodox liturgies are traced to his work. And from there it has been translated to the native tongue of each local church.

I don't watch youtube documentaries

it blew the fuck up when the carbon tipped control bars were lowered

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Ultrachad miners, I guess, but they are fun to watch.

He was a nuclear engineer.

>politburo transcripts show the ministers and politburo members freaking out and reluctantly admitting that RBMK reactors had been fucked for years and barely avoided multiple meltdowns
>Boris Stolyarchuk, the last surviving Chernobyl worker from that night, gives a long interview explaining that the reactor was a death trap and it was just a matter of time before it blew up
>t-the CIA did it!
Conspiratards are beyond help.

youtube.com/watch?v=uPRyciXh07k&t=2809s

do you? if you know how it works on an atomic level you would know why non ionizing radiation cannot physically cause cancer (besides due to heat in very large amounts)

Then watch this you faggot

woman character is combine

I have no idea what this means.

The show is a relatively accurate telling of the story through the lens of a TV drama. It's good. Watch it or don't but fuck off if you're going to be a cunt.

specifically at this time the numbers of bureaucrats was absurdly high

Oh yeah. And that prayer is derived form the Psalms of the Old Testament.

take that tone and keep it inside your body.

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>in very large amounts
How about semi-intense exposure to radio waves over months or years? Are you confident in telling me you see no way this could possibly be harmful?

proza DOT ru/2016/01/28/1824
library DOT narod DOT ru/tetr/tetr2.htm
wikipedia.org/wiki/Valery_Legasov#Circumstances_of_death

read Legasovs notes

>text filler text filler word limit fuck this shit website censoring me for posting ru links

>FILLER TEX Tesign of the absorbing rods of the reactor protection control system (abbreviated CPS).
The fact is that with the height of the active zone equal to seven meters, the absorbing part of the rod had a length of five meters, and hollow sections were below and above the absorbing part. The lower limit of the absorbing rod, leaving at full immersion below the active zone, is filled with graphite. With such a design, the control rods at the top enter them into the reactor at the beginning of the core with the lower graphite limit switch, then the hollow meter section enters the zone and only after that the absorbing part. In total, at the Chernobyl 4th power unit there are 211 absorbing rods. According to the USSR report in the IAEA - 205 rods were in the extreme upper position, according to SIUR Toptunov, there were 193 rods at the top. The simultaneous introduction of such a number of rods into the core gives at the first moment a surge of positive reactivity due to dehydration of

what a huge pile of shit

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I'm still deciding.

Well, they said that they couldn't include all scientists who worked on that problem, so they combined them in one character. Make sense for me.

whatever

>hell of an attitude

They still bow to coal miners

Yes, I agree my fellow men's rights activist and anti-sjw friend, they should instead have depicted the hundreds of scientists she represents IRL talking in conference calls for hours at a time. Very good television, very dramatic.

Are we just going to ignore how utterly BTFO she was by the end of this episode

No. The reactor never exploded in real life.

Yeah, just torrent the bluray rip

I think its a bit of over dramatization but I also imagine the fission and fire from the reactor would glow that bright yellow color so you wouldnt have to look into the reactor since the glow from it would be immense in a dark building at night.

they were men

>>t-the CIA did it!
Can I not mention documented cases of CIA involvement without this reductionism?
I never claimed James Bond planted a bomb under cover of darkness. Does a bureaucrat ordering the test because he thinks Ukraine would be better off without the USSR not count as sabotage to you?

the show is ok

Then what's the problem?

There was no building. No roof above.

Fun fact. It was Legasov that asked pilot to fly directly over reactor IRL in first day. So in Soviet Russia it it's you
throwing an evil official out of a helicopter.

>A song of 3.6 roentgens
In the end it was the friends we made along the way

>privatizing
get the fuck out

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no, these large amounts you would literally feel the heat.

okay quick rundown of high school chem:
EM waves contain energy which excite the electrons inside an atom.
all waves under UV (light, radio, micro, etc) either make the electron rotate or vibrate.
any waves over light (UV, gamma, etc) contain enough energy to excite electrons enough to push them outside of their orbitals (ionizing them, hence the name ionizing radiation).
ionizing atoms can cause them to become unstable, which can in turn fuck with surrounding atoms. stuff like this can mess up dna which causes cancer.

now, tell me, if you do not have enough energy through an EM wave to ionize an atom, how would this disrupt other atoms giving a chance to lead to cancer? (hint: it wouldn't)

heat is a completely different aspect and you would likely need a fuckton, you would feel the burns way before you get affected

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lonely

Can you prove it?

Please fuck off. I'm slav and I had to pay off my doctors to at least give two shits about my dad who was in treatment for cancer.
I also passed the vehicle quality inspection by leaving $100 bill with my drivers licence. Car was not road worthy but still managed to get the apperwork done by bribing.
Oh and, I was also stopped for speeding later and bribed policeman with another $100 and got away with it.

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t. intolerable leftie who has never been anywhere close to a Soviet country

previously stable

Incorrect. Russian nuclear physicists in the 1980s were actually about 50/50.

Ukraine belongs to the workers of the world.

I'm NUUUUUCLEEAAAAAARR
I'm WIIIIIiiiiild

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are you retarded or something, those 'gifts' are part of daily basis of slavlife till this day

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That too

I'M BREAKING UUUUP
INSIIIIIIIIIIDE

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One of the two explosions actually was.

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UV light can be used to create a halogenated alkane through a free radical - not ionization. Things are more complicated than they appear, user.

You're retarded. If they carried out the test to the parameters they planned to (700MW minimum output) everything would have gone fine. How does that beaurocrat ordering the test know they'll fuck it up? They did similar tests (bridging the backup generator lag) multiple times and they went fine. How THE FUCK does melting down a reactor help Ukraine in any way?! You're as mentally deficient as Dyatlov.

The test didn’t exploit the design flaws you conspiracy tard. If they had followed the fucking test protocol none of this would have ever happened.

incels coping with the fact that scientist women can exist

those credits just gave me whiplash. one middling comedy after another and then a kino atom bomb. its like the hollywood equivalent of a class clown who's secretly brilliant, did he sell his soul to the devil here? anyone else have a similar case?

No more bullets

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I was born in the 80s in Kiev and this was very normal. If you wanted to get any service you usually gave an extra bribe, it was very common to give money to the doctor under the table after a procedure/exam. They are all correct.

Before you call me a /pol/tard I'm literally a marxist so lmao

Are you stupid?

based

Have they studied at university? There are plenty of women scientists.

Explain to me how an electromagnetic wave can cause a cell to mutate.

how would stalin deal with the chernobyl incident if it had happened in his lifetime ?

>conspiritards btfo
>USSR apologists btfo
>No tripfag in sight
*Loud applause and banging on table*

He would have sent the reactor to the gulag.

What a mess we made

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Well, a gamma ray can fuck up molecules pretty quick. I think you know how that goes.

congrats on flexing your brain to a board on Yea Forums in the middle of the night, not only was my post a basic explanation that is good enough for 99% of people but what you said has nothing to do with what the original post was talking about

>getting in the good graces so you can do what you want.
Why are youbsuprised?

Pretty much the same, I guess. Except for people who fucked up would be shot, instead of going to prison for 10 years.

...

I was trying to show you that there’s a lot more to chemistry than what they taught you in high school. If you’re wrong about that, you don’t think you might be wrong about something else too?

Apparently to become a writer, you are supposed to write things you would never usually write

Ukraine is independent from Russia.

>Court materials:
>Assistant prosecutor - Bryukhanov was aware that there will be vibration tests?
>Fomin - I do not know.
>Assistant Attorney - Tell me straight, Bryukhanov knew about the coast?
>Fomin - No
>Assistant Attorney - Is it your fault that you didn’t tell him?
>Fomin - (long silent) - mine.
>Expert - Why did you fear throwing cold water from an ECCS into the reactor?
>Fomin - We should not have done this, but we made a decision to quickly withdraw the ECCS. I can not answer how it happened.
>(Dyatlov smiles).
>Expert - Why the program was developed by the brigade engineer Dontechenergo Metlenko?
>(Dyatlov smiles)
>Fomin - Certainly better if the program was done by a technologist.
>Dyatlov to Metlenko - Was there a conversation on April 26 (before the accident) in which you said that if the work is not done today, then you will demand that the contract be closed?
>Metlenko - Yes, it was, after a dispute with a representative of the HTZ Kabanov.

>Дoнтeхэнepгo
>Dontechenergo

dtenergo.com.ua/

The focus of the documentary "The Russian Woodpecker" has a similar conclusion that ends with names from the board of directors of Rostelcom.

I'm not saying I know everything or who did it at all but its clear it wasn't an "accident"

>radiation cancer

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Serious question in episode 2, what did tableslap man and his buddy in the glasses think they were going to accomplish by insisting to the Party man that the core couldn't have exploded even though the guy they sent to the roof to look at the core already came back and presumably reported what he saw. At that point they should already have been in "blame Dyatlov" mode, not "there is no graphite" mode

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they thought boris was stupid

That's what I said. Not nearly as much as 50% of total as other user said but plenty enough in the soviet union

Post the nuclear powerplant that's closest to you, and how fucked you would be in the event of catastrophe

>Kalininskaya atomic power station
>360 km
should be pretty safe, I'm not downwind

There's also a reactor in Kurchatov Research Institute which is 20 minutes by bus away from me, but it's a small, scientific type, and it's been shut down and dormant for 4 years now.

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>How does that beaurocrat ordering the test know they'll fuck it up?
I'm also not implying this. When it happened to the reactor in Leningrad they had to shut it down for an extended time. Maybe they were just trying to cause blackouts to make people riot.

a toast for beginning of the end

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Huh. Guess I have been watching a few vids in this browser. I was reccomended this video of reactor 2. youtube.com/watch?v=Oe_zzTQFV3o

Reminder that we cant have historical accuracy without shallow propaganda shoved down our throats.

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uhh what? where was i wrong, i gave a simple explanation without going into specifics

my explanation still works for your case since UV rays are within the range for ionization.
also this captcha fucking sucks

All the evidence clearly points to it being an accident. They hit the emergency shutdown button for fucks sake. All that transcript shows is their incompetence. But please, just tell me how a nuclear reactor going into meltdown in the Ukraine furthers the cause of independence?

Ukraine was a part of the USSR in 1986, and produced most of their grain.

You're delusional.

This is our time to shine!

/pol/fags can say whatever they want but to be honest she only exists as a method to drive the plot forward and teach the viewer stuff

That plant has a pretty cool aesthetic.

No he wasn't, he took correspondence courses in nuclear physics cause he only studied energy engineering.

And today Ukraine is independent from Russia and Russia imports food.
>But please, just tell me how a nuclear reactor going into meltdown in the Ukraine furthers the cause of independence?
The complete economic shutdown of the USSR?

>everthing i hate is /pol/
I bet you say "bash the fash" unironically.

>Maybe they were just trying to cause blackouts to make people riot.
So you have to invent a bunch of completely fictional motives to make your narrative make a shred of sense? Do you realize how insane you sound?

>Heysham
>300km

Absolutely fucked.
>"Paddy could do with a dose of radiation"

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pretty much, she also does what irl Legasov did, trying to pinpoint what actually happened in the control room and why reactor blew up

>my conspiracy is right because of this scenario that could never happen

Because core exploding was the absolute worst scenario and if core had exploded under their authority they were sacked no matter what, so they were in full on delusion mode

>"The Russian Woodpecker"

It's not a documentary, it's a piece of shit made by a retarded lunatic who was obsessed with linking the nearby "Duga" radar to the catastrophe. This "documentary" includes the footage of its author running naked near "Duga" and shouting curses to suspects he took from his own head.

I was on the premiere of this piece of shit in Zhovten kinotheatre in Kiev, and a saw a liquidator rushing onto the stage, grabbing microphone and saying to the author (present there) that this was a piece of fiction and disgrace to all victims and liquidators.

You have to understand the Russian mindset.

Remember the part where he explains all the phone calls that were made, in the order that were made, to all the Party officials? Everyone defers to their senior. So no matter how many underlings said the core blew (which had never happened before and, even in the West, was thought theoretically impossible) Dyatlov said the core was intact, which is what he told his bosses. Game of telephone goes all the way to the top, so now when someone says the core exploded, not only are they arguing with their boss, they are arguing with Gorbechev himself, and surely you wouldn't be calling the Premier of the Soviet Union an idiot, right?

Dyatlov had some serious issues. I'm not going to armchair psyche this guy but a lot of people have and have come to the conclusion that he believed his dead son to be his fault because of his work on sub reactors, so he had some kind of personal war to win with the atom, like breaking a bronco he wanted to control radiation itself. He wasn't going to let nuclear power beat him a second time.

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Accidents happen, Fortunato

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>Millstone Power Station
>26 miles
A-At least we're separated by a body of water...

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I don't follow. You aren't making a single lick of sense. The USSR collapsed because of mass general striking which took place, starting with the coal miners. It had nothing to do with nuclear power or Ukraine at all.

Here's the "researcher" behind "Russian Woodpecker", Fedor Alexandrovich.

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Not right now you don't.

Temporarily shutting down one reactor out of four total would have never caused a blackout, and you reveal yourself as an idiot for even thinking it would. If that were the case they would have never been able to do any tests whatsoever. Notice how conspiritards like you are striving to find profound secret truths, but lack the basic mental reasoning abilities of a smart child. Wonder why your insane theories always fall apart?

THERE IS NO GRAPHITE ON THE GROUND!

>>my conspiracy is right because of this scenario that could never happen
what the fuck are you even talking about? The USSR DID collapse and Ukraine IS independent.

There are hundreds if not thousands of people in the former USSR that had the means and motive. Its much more likely than a reactor exploding on its own during a test with a bunch of trained scientists that literally know the exact actions of the test have caused problems before in the same reactor and just decided blindly to do it anyway.

Aw man I read about Dyatlov and how his son died, I was hoping they'd show this...

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Seeing as there's claims of disinfo flying around about atomic explanations in here, is pic related I saved in an earlier thread accurate?

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Ironically a near-blackout in Kiev is what caused the test to become fucked and lead to the detonation of Reactor 4.

And here we go with people reinforcing the stereotype.

>I'm not going to armchair psyche this guy but a lot of people have and have come to the conclusion that he believed his dead son
and quoting the directors podcast

Infirmary. Now.

>what the fuck are you even talking about? The USSR DID collapse and Ukraine IS independent
And that has NOTHING TO DO with a reactor accident.

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I knew what it was before opening it. Nice

>we could've seen Dylatov delusional

Missed opportunity

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I posted a pretty good layman's explanation earlier that doesn't include meme arrows.

Lold, I live 4 kilometers away, it stands very close to the town.

>Its much more likely than a reactor exploding on its own during a test with a bunch of trained scientists that literally know the exact actions of the test have caused problems before
They literally did not know this.

You don't even need the shit with his son. He fucked up once previously on a nuclear submarine, and was written up for how he bullied employees. Plenty of evidence that he's incompetent and pig headed.

Obviously it wasnt good enough to be memorable. Also kys.

To be honest hope was something similar. Maybe how he blamed himself for his sons death and how he wouldn't be able to handle another where he was a supervisor so he just went into extreme denial.

>starting with the coal miners
>Дoнтeхэнepгo
>Дoнeцьк

>by the 60s it became clear that the European part of the Soviet Union, where 80 percent of both the population and industry are concentrated on us, will not live on imported fuel, and Donetsk coal has become too expensive, and it became too little. And imported fuel is expensive.
t. Legasov

this user is delusional, take him to the gulag

Do you have a butter and caviar sandwich? Then get the fuck out of my room!!!

Next thing you know he'll be seeing graphite and saying the core is gone.

My hope*.. i forgot how to spell... ill see myself to the infirmary

>Its much more likely than a reactor exploding on its own during a test with a bunch of trained scientists that literally know the exact actions of the test have caused problems before in the same reactor and just decided blindly to do it anyway.
Just how fucking stupid are you? People who should know better fuck up; it's the No.1 reason why anything bad ever happens. And it's that much worse in a closed totalitarian regime. Protip: Dyatlov and co. didn't know the reactor was a total death trap.

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oh sorry next time
>I'll go a
>head and m
>eme arr
>ow some mor
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*X-Files theme playing*

Seething

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As I ALREADY FUCKING EXPLAINED EARLIER.

That particular issue did not become widely disseminated until after Chernobyl because the incident caused by the earlier test resulted in no damage and no casualties, so it was a footnote in a safety report that nobody fucking read.

They should have had easier names.

There is also a russian who saved the world from a Nuclear Missile launch at the US in the 80’s.

Probably the one in South Africa, fuck the Australian government

>76 to 130 Sv

Jesus fuck that would be half an hour worth of exposure near the reactor 4 on the 26th.
The fuck did they do to reach such high levels in a processing plant ?

Just goes to show you how the soviets didnt want to elevate anyone above the party's name. You can see in the show everyone was terrified of standing out unless it was to rat someone to the higher ups. If you did what they wanted you were just doing your duty as a soviet.

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What are you not understanding.
In 1985 a Donetsk based coal mining energy company designed the tests that were being performed. Its documented. Literally anyone in the coal industry would gain from having Chernobyl shutdown.

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If it's a criticality accident they basically make a nuke it was just slightly too small to vaporize everything in a 20km radius

zaotvet.info/library/glava_5_rassledovanie

Erm, as a Russiafag I don't understand how there could be any sort of industry competition in USSR economy. Especially to the extent of meddling with nuclear power.

Austria near Vienna
Mochovoce 200km
Dukovany 180km
Don't know about the Safety. Seems like all the Reactors have no containment. Also Austria has no Reactors that are online. Zwentendorf was ready in 1986 but people denied the Energy Provider and so it never got started

Why would they design tests that, if performed correctly with a successful result, would increase the reliability of the nuclear power plant? This is the giant hole in your crap theory, the test design wasn't the problem, the way it was executed was.

Get a load of this hothead

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The description suggests they put too much uranium in a solution and it went into a supercritical chain reaction.

Mayak is just a gift that keep on giving:
>From 1949 to 1956 the Mayak complex[1] dumped an estimated 76 million cubic metres (2.7×109 cu ft) of radioactive waste water into the Techa River,[2] a cumulative dispersal of 2.75 MCi (102 PBq) of radioactivity.[3]

>As many as forty villages, with a combined population of about 28,000 residents, lined the river at the time.[4] For 24 of them, the Techa was a major source of water; 23 of them were eventually evacuated.[5] In the past 45 years, about half a million people in the region have been irradiated in one or more of the incidents,[4][6] exposing them to as much as 20 times the radiation suffered by the Chernobyl disaster victims.[2]

The first one to start digging gets to stay on my truck.

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That's a big hat

>Maлaфиeнкo
>literally Cumman

someone make a new thread before i piss myself

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Tell me comrades how does an RBMK reactor explode?

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NEW THREAD

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I paid you a small fortune.

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For you.

27 miles to my nearest nuclear plant

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lol

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The safety test had been conducted numerous times with no issues. Who would have thought that Dyatlov would be such a colossal cunt?

This man is delusional, send him to the infirmary

>There is a large graphite displacer on the bottom of the control rods for God knows what reason

It's there to increase the difference between rods being fully inserted (maximum neturon absorption) and the rod being retracted, when the graphite tip boosts the chain reaction. It wasn't actually such a bad idea, considered that in normal operation you are very unlikely to come across a situation with two hundred rods being inserted at the same time, causing a significant power spike.

The graphite tips were not a problem (as they were not removed in the post-Chernobyl RBMK safety updates), the length of the rods were the issue. As the rods were above the water when fully retracted, they displaced water during insertion. If they were a bit longer (or the water reached a bit higher), this effect would not happen and it would all be fine.